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Post# 187234   6/26/2012 at 14:15 (2,836 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        

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my 90 year old neighbour asked me to look at this machine she said it runs but wont pick anything up at first i thought it might be blocked up but no much more serious than that the fan has completely shattered i have searched the internet for a replacement but all i can find is bags and belts can anyone tell me where i can get a fan for this machine . i myself would chuck it but my neighbour likes it because its light so i would like to fix it if possible its a Light n easy ht835r i will try and add a photo although it is dismantled any info would be most appreciated




Post# 187235 , Reply# 1   6/26/2012 at 14:19 (2,836 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
another

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the remains of the fan

Post# 187236 , Reply# 2   6/26/2012 at 14:21 (2,836 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
another

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the rating label

Post# 187246 , Reply# 3   6/26/2012 at 16:34 (2,836 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Anthony do you know how much the whole cleaner would cost to buy new, if still available? Only I didn't think they were all that expensive to buy. It may be more cost effective to replace the whole cleaner, that's what I am edging towards.

Post# 187250 , Reply# 4   6/26/2012 at 17:40 (2,836 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi, I'm sure if you look hard enough on the net someone might have one.
But I had trouble getting spare body parts for these machines a year or so ago.
When I needed a spare part for a customers machine.
One supplier I know knew one of the owners of the company and he did some inquiries for me and the answer he got was "If you buy a whole machine you can brake it for spares..."
I didn't do that. So the best thing I can say is look for a second hand cheap one and take the fan off that and then kepp the rest just in case you need anything else.

James:o)


Post# 187286 , Reply# 5   6/27/2012 at 02:08 (2,836 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
thanks guys

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yes i had a look on the internet you can get a new one for 40 pounds i will keep this machine for spares thanks for your help

Post# 187298 , Reply# 6   6/27/2012 at 09:03 (2,835 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        

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I bought one of those labeled Hometek Light and Easy (Navy Blue in colour) brand new from a local vacuum shop just because I thought they looked fun and was going to use it as a daily run around. The one I got was a total dud, the screws that held on the base of the cleaner fell out and wouldn't grip to screw back in so I took it back after only a week and got a refund.

Post# 187313 , Reply# 7   6/27/2012 at 11:13 (2,835 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
yes

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i can well imagine that happening they are flimsy little things you cant really see in the photo but the motor is tiny its obviously not meant to be repaired they are also very noisy . Oh please HOOVER bring back the junior

Post# 187317 , Reply# 8   6/27/2012 at 11:53 (2,835 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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So it's essentially a much cheaper Oreck?

Post# 187340 , Reply# 9   6/27/2012 at 16:39 (2,835 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
they

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are made by a company called Hometek god knows who they are . my neighbour tells me when working it performed reasonably well and if parts were available it would be easy to repair because once you remove the bottom everything is right in front of you rather like a junior very simple machine and light thats why pensioners like them . this machine is not 2 years old yet

Post# 187375 , Reply# 10   6/27/2012 at 19:36 (2,835 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Anthony feel free to read my review if you wish about the Hometek upright: http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/vacuum-cleaner/home-tek-ht835le/1062401/

 

I had the blue one and the red one. They're just like what people are saying; a cheaper rendition of the Oreck XL. The fan or general spares may be able to be obtained direct from Hometek UK:  www.hometek.co.uk/contacts.html...

 

Just email them and ask; it won't hurt to try.


Post# 187440 , Reply# 11   6/28/2012 at 16:02 (2,834 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)        
light n easy

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thanks for that Sebo fan i will give them a try

Post# 187442 , Reply# 12   6/28/2012 at 16:33 (2,834 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Well at least, unlike Oreck, the price is reflective of the quality and performance of the machine.

Post# 187536 , Reply# 13   6/29/2012 at 09:32 (2,833 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yes, that's true but then thanks to its minority aspect, at least finding bags and consumables for Oreck is a lot better. 

 

Having been on EBay this morning though, there's a fair amount of Oreck uprights that are being sold at cheaper prices. Far cheaper than the prices new that JL stores are selling the Oreck models - and we don't get the more modern ones that the U.S have. It seems at long last, the UK are beginning to see the truth of Oreck and its claims. They're good machines but they're not worth the £300 to £400 asking prices  - I'd rather spend that on a TOL Miele or similar - the Gtech Air Ram is a good idea but Id much prefer a mains power option rather than rely on batteries alone. 

 

If Miele had a proper, smaller lightweight bagged upright, it could effectively knock Oreck off - or even Hoover, like a true Junior model instead of that silly Athyss hand stick that appeared years ago. I always liked the Miele D'Art system but for elderly people, having to bend down to the floor to change the bag (and same with the canisters) isn't always  convenient. The Hometek is a neat and well priced vacuum that just needs a little more user friendliness in terms of maintenance and spares.


Post# 187541 , Reply# 14   6/29/2012 at 10:39 (2,833 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
It seems at long last, the UK are beginning to see the truth

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Thank god!
My Dyson overpriced hatred aside, Oreck are the biggest heap of overpriced, overhyped and cheaply made rubbish I've ever used. The motor and fan are so tiny it barely generates any suction. They're also ear-splittingly, earth-shatteringly loud - if they are used in hotels across the globe as claimed, I wouldn't want to stay in one for fear of being abruptly woken up by someone vacuuming 3 floors away.

 

Due to the lack of suction, their edge cleaning ability is virtually nothing. The Oreck's 1 saving grace is that it has a pretty good brushroll which does a great job of grooming the carpet, but this simply makes the cleaner nothing more than a noisey carpet sweeper.


Post# 187591 , Reply# 15   6/29/2012 at 16:54 (2,833 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

In fairness, Dyson do invest heavily in research and design. This is then passed onto the ticket price of the cleaner. Personally I'd rather have a more durable cleaner which was not so well researched as I am yet to be convinced that all the R&D is paying off, rather I think it's just something James Dyson likes to play at, but at least there is a weak argument to say the money one pays for a Dyson goes to something.

Where it goes on an Oreck I am yet to find out. I think they have changed very little in all the time they have been around, and then again the changes were only in the styling.


Post# 187597 , Reply# 16   6/29/2012 at 17:49 (2,833 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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Forgot to mentoin earlier,Sine they're so simular,And the motors are the EXACT same,Perhaps a oreck fan will fit?I have a spare LExan fan if you're intrested.

-Alex.


Post# 187784 , Reply# 17   6/30/2012 at 20:47 (2,832 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

it's funny how most older lightwieghts are still running today and cleaning up a storm...!

Post# 188603 , Reply# 18   7/6/2012 at 07:19 (2,826 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I don't think it is unusual to see older lightweights still remaining - its like old cars - people are hanging onto them if they are efficient and keep going without paying massively for parts. Lightweights are easy to keep going (as all are vacuums) IF there are widely available parts. In the case of the Hometek though, it may well be a copy of an Oreck, but I have a feeling the motors aren't the same despite the fact that they may look the same. 


Post# 188677 , Reply# 19   7/6/2012 at 22:25 (2,826 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I just wonder if a tacony simplicity or riccar fan might work

Post# 190451 , Reply# 20   7/18/2012 at 09:46 (2,814 days old) by uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK)        
hometeck or however its spelt

i bought one of these from a bootsale a few years back for 50p still overpriced lol but that had the same problem the fan had totally gone so i managed to call hometeck or whatever thet are and they sent me a new one for free admititdly it took 6 weeks because they didnt have in stock but i still got it, they were really friendly to me and couldnt do enough to help
dave
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Post# 190455 , Reply# 21   7/18/2012 at 10:00 (2,814 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
That machine is

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made by Douglas here in the USA . No an Oreck nor a Simplicity/Riccar fan

nor anyother fan will fit but the one made for this machine .


Post# 190464 , Reply# 22   7/18/2012 at 12:22 (2,814 days old) by trebor ()        
g tech air ram launch video




 

Based on a dirt removal/ power consumption ratio the Hoover Junior from the 50's is better than almost everything made since.

 

Why?  1) in our quest for filtration motors gobble more power 2) in our total belief in advertising we buy vacuum cleaners at the top of the power consumption curve without regard for actual, measurable performance.

 

A very telling statement in this video is that if we all went back to using the vacuum cleaners of the 50's we could close down multiple power plants around the world PERMANENTLY!


Post# 190489 , Reply# 23   7/18/2012 at 15:21 (2,814 days old) by trebor ()        
The Douglas vacs...

 are now made under the label "Redi-Vac"


Post# 190490 , Reply# 24   7/18/2012 at 15:56 (2,814 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yes Trebor but its like that with everything these days. As consumers higher power is better - even when it comes to cars. Ironically in the UK, unless its on a test track you'll never really get to test how fast or how quick the actual product is. 

 

When it comes to vacuums, power is always advertised as being better than the rest. In the case of the Air Ram, it's just GTech moving on from their established (and pretty good) cordless sweepers with a "new" sweeper but has a suction motor fitted to it. The real test is knowing how long it will run for - and Gtech SW20 Premium sweeper which is cheaper to buy has the same battery but requires one more hour to charge it for the similar run time and does without the suction motor. 

 


Post# 190522 , Reply# 25   7/18/2012 at 21:33 (2,814 days old) by Trebor ()        
The Gtech cordless sweepers...

resemble the Shark product quite a bit. Any connection?


Post# 190561 , Reply# 26   7/19/2012 at 05:33 (2,814 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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GTech sweepers are made in China, so it doesn't surprise me that Shark are passing them off - some of their upright vacs were Chinese made vacs that Morphy Richards sold here under their own label which were originallly TTI Dirt Devil models. 

 

The GTech sweeper in Australia is also currently being sold by Vax under their VS-102 model number.

 

Hometek are almost exclusively a Chinese company and the company name are UK traders. The Redi_vac is most probably the same.


Post# 190566 , Reply# 27   7/19/2012 at 06:14 (2,814 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        
vacuums and power plants

Vacuum cleaners are not that frequently used by most people so the drain on the electric system is not at all great due to vacuum cleaners-remember HVAC, lighting, and cooking would be more of a demand.And don't forget entertainment equipment either-its usually run for longer periods of time than a vacuum cleaner-Ie TV sets.I don't think folks will go back to cleaning with brooms!

Post# 190575 , Reply# 28   7/19/2012 at 08:48 (2,813 days old) by trebor ()        
Tolivac...

Today's vacuum cleaners are high, but short interval power consumers. If all of those high wattage vacs were replaced with vacs from the 50's the power savings in total would be significant. Thus G tech's claim about being able to shut down power plants.


Post# 190600 , Reply# 29   7/19/2012 at 13:31 (2,813 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Worrying about vacuums with high watts/power is small fry. There are more things to worry about to be eco-friendly these days. The cost of power alone is pretty high and some of UK population have begun to get wood burning stoves in to replace gas stoves/electricity. For some, a vacuum cleaner could well be a luxury.


Post# 190617 , Reply# 30   7/19/2012 at 15:32 (2,813 days old) by trebor ()        
Sebo fan,

you don't think the savings of the output of an entire power plant is significant?


Post# 190626 , Reply# 31   7/19/2012 at 17:14 (2,813 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Trebor, on the back of what sebo-fan is saying, may I say this. I can only speak for UK as I have rarely set foot outside of it, but we are not very good at this whole green thing. We get an idea stuck in our heads and that is it. It's there for good. No one considers the wattage of a vacuum cleaner to be the same as a heater or tumble dryer, because we have always thought as dryers being heavy on the juice and vacuums as not being so. A good deal of electrical appliances have the the facility to be left on stand-by which consumes so much power, and that is power used and 100% wasted (one could argue the benefits of a high wattage cleaner are at least appreciated, if the appliance is in working order). No one bats an eyelid. Years ago we were told never to leave appliances on standby because of the fire risk, and no one seemed to care even then, so the idea it wastes power is unlikely to ever hit home.

Laundry on the other hand is now done quickly and at low temperatures. People do this because they believe they are being economical. Well they are being so, of course they are, but with it they are being economical with hygiene. They could save energy by not leaving things on standby and use that saved power to wash their clothes properly. One woman I know complained to me that her dishwasher does not clean properly and many things have to go through for a 2nd wash. She is using the quick wash. So why not just fill the machine as full as possible and do one proper wash instead?

The UK is full of misguided and well-intentioned people. The whole country seems to be in uproar and everyone depressed about it. Becoming eco-friendly is not top of everyone's worries at the moment, and as few people seem to trust our current government about anything, I very much doubt they will be the ones to get the correct message across.


Post# 190646 , Reply# 32   7/19/2012 at 20:30 (2,813 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well said Benny - only thing is, some American consumers are now going with the "UK/European" side loader, known as our conventional washing machines because they use less water compared to the bigger top loader style that America has always enjoyed.

 

The U.S were far greener than us back in the 1970's too - they were one of the first countries to adopt laws for cars that ran dangerous emissions. Volvo were one of the first pioneers to patent the Lambda Sond fuel patent that gave lower emissions, especially a priority for the smog that was produced back then and cars of that period had been burning too much oil, not to mention the oil crisis; one of my mum's family members emigrated to the States in the early 1970s and worked for Volvo and that patent with Bosch. 

 

However, in so far as other appliances are concerned, as Benny says, the UK aren't eco-friendly, but the older generation, especially those born in the 1940s have adopted an old fashioned approach of either keeping their existing appliances or just making do with whatever the basics are. Its in the 1980s that young professionals and those born after that period have adopted a high-power attitude, probably not helped by the Japanese who advertised everything with "high fidelity," "high power," and "high status."


Post# 190648 , Reply# 33   7/19/2012 at 20:37 (2,813 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Also Trebor - whilst the "savings' of a power plant are significant, it is the type of power plant that interests me more. Whilst we, as a global nation are trying to level out the power that every home uses, the nature of where or how the power is achieved is of more concern with me. Out with Nuclear please and more with more, traditional means but then you're stuck in a Catch 22 situation because of the cost of production.


Post# 190672 , Reply# 34   7/20/2012 at 01:49 (2,813 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Again the power demand from vacuums is not that great-its worth repeating here-don't think folks switching to low draw vacuums is going to be a factor.Remember most non vacuum folks only use their machine once or twice a week-and probably not for more than an hour.Not worth worrying about.And remember not all of the vacuums out there are being used at the same time.For power, worry about other appliances.

Post# 190775 , Reply# 35   7/20/2012 at 19:57 (2,812 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well said, toilvac.


Post# 190922 , Reply# 36   7/22/2012 at 03:30 (2,811 days old) by andy-lux ()        

I did have the home tek version for a short while. Was a fiver from a house. Clearance shop and when I tried it , it sprayed more dust out of it than it picked up. yes Chris it's a MUCH cheaper version of an Oreck

Post# 190969 , Reply# 37   7/22/2012 at 14:53 (2,810 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Here in the US

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it`s a Douglas or now called Ready Vac as Trebor said .

In my opinion it is no way at all compared to an Oreck . It is way cheaper made

and look`s nothing like an Oreck . The Closest machine here in the states would be

the Bissell Pro Lite because they used to build Orecks and thats really stretching

it because the pro lite had dual fans .


Post# 191074 , Reply# 38   7/23/2012 at 05:15 (2,810 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well its like the Oreck in the sense that it makes a similar noise and similar design! I had both so I know.

I do like Oreck's brush roll though - always have done and always will - their wooden rolls look nice but the brushes are fantastic at grooming and fluff up carpets a real treat. The Chinese made Hometek/Redi-vac/Douglas had nothing like that but both used the design of hollow handle and spine acting as main dust channel to the bag.





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