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Volta U505 upright 1974
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Post# 187006   6/24/2012 at 14:26 (4,317 days old) by markus79 (Finland)        

Hey!
Look what I found last week. This Volta is made in Britain 1974. 450W motor. Looks great and very vintage color too=) hmm. flower decorations...=) This cost only 6 euros. I got also same type Electrolux Z500 from 1971 about a year ago. These are quite rare here because we donīt have wall to wall carpets since 1970īs.

Best Regards
Markus


Post# 187007 , Reply# 1   6/24/2012 at 14:27 (4,317 days old) by markus79 (Finland)        
Volta U505

High suction=)

Post# 187008 , Reply# 2   6/24/2012 at 14:28 (4,317 days old) by markus79 (Finland)        
Volta U505

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Post# 187012 , Reply# 3   6/24/2012 at 15:20 (4,317 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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WOW lovely find, I have the exact same model but under the Electrolux badge 504

Post# 187014 , Reply# 4   6/24/2012 at 15:30 (4,317 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

lovely vacuums, this was the 504 in this county

Post# 187015 , Reply# 5   6/24/2012 at 15:30 (4,317 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

Electrolux 504, 1976

Post# 187025 , Reply# 6   6/24/2012 at 19:36 (4,317 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I remember that vac with a passion. It was one of the first models I ever used when I worked in a residential home as a cleaner. The house I worked for had two of these yellow uprights, Hoover Senior and the Commercial brute. Much preferred the Electrolux as it was super light, a breeze to clean with & a far easier machine to carry up 4 flights of stairs. Now I know, after reading these posted brochures to why the LED light always went off when the machine switched on. I never had that on my old Z517.


Post# 187049 , Reply# 7   6/25/2012 at 02:01 (4,317 days old) by Docker (Cape Town, South Africa)        
Euromate plug

I have never seen a Euromate plug on a vacuum, but being only 450W, this equates to 1.95A, well within the Euromate's 2.5A rating. In SA, all vacs, power tools etc are sold with a moulded Schuko plug, even though we don't have Schuko sockets. Replacing the Schuko with a BS plug invalidates the guarantee!

Post# 187059 , Reply# 8   6/25/2012 at 05:06 (4,317 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

I once had a pimped up 504 with a 1300w contour motor. It was incredible, it used to pull itself along

Post# 187062 , Reply# 9   6/25/2012 at 05:39 (4,317 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Yea, I did that to but with a 560, it was insane. I gave it to one of my mates and he still uses it

Post# 187063 , Reply# 10   6/25/2012 at 05:39 (4,317 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Hi

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Hi Ryan. When you put a 1300 watt motor in your Electrolux 504 did you have any problems with it pulling the bags in to the machine??
As years ago when I had a newer more powerful motor fitted in a Electrolux z358t the bags cardboard front use to fold in half and get pull in to the bag compartment once the bag got about a quarter full.

James:o)


Post# 187064 , Reply# 11   6/25/2012 at 05:41 (4,317 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Docker ,

It is a myth that in SA you invalidate the warranty by replacing the plug. We do it all the time for our customers when they buy a new vac from us.


Post# 187065 , Reply# 12   6/25/2012 at 06:26 (4,317 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

James - No it was fine actually, it seemed to get through belts quite quick though

Post# 187100 , Reply# 13   6/25/2012 at 12:15 (4,316 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Just to throw in one more version. Here's my Canadian Dometic model 505. Also made in England. Another version of the same machine.

Post# 187103 , Reply# 14   6/25/2012 at 12:20 (4,316 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Collector2
what type of plug is that on your machine, I thought Canada would use the same plug as the USA


Post# 187110 , Reply# 15   6/25/2012 at 13:14 (4,316 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Docker
Here is the Euromate plug as fitted to the latest Vorwerk Vk140 as sold in SA

Its Rated as 1300watt


Post# 187125 , Reply# 16   6/25/2012 at 14:34 (4,316 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

The whole replacement plug myth is alive & well in this country too. The instructions with almost all appliances in the UK actually come with detailed instructions on how to remove any fitted plug the appliance may have and how to replace it with the correct type if necessary. Mostly plugs are only removed if the get damaged, which happens a lot on power tools, vacuum cleaners, lawn mowers, and so on and so forth, or on kitchen appliances where the mains lead needs to be passed through a gap or hole in a kitchen unit or surface to reach the socket.

As for the light on the switch on the Electrolux 504, the fact that it goes out when the switch is pressed may well be described as a feature in the booklet, but the truth of the matter is that it's a consequence of having the lamp in the switch and not really a feature at all. This is the only way a lamp could be fitted to the cleaner without making a change to the existing mouldings, and the neon lamp sits across the two live terminals of the switch. When the switch contacts are broken (that is to say the switch is off) there is current flowing through the neon, down the live connection to the motor, and around the cleaner, then back out down the neutral wire, and vice-versa, such is A.C. current. This causes the neon to illuminate. Pressing the switch by-passes the neon altogether and it goes out.

It is my own opinion that the neon is there as a very cheap way of making the cleaner look that little bit more fancy. Upon using her 504 for the very first time, my mothers exact words were "Well what is the point of that?" when she switched the machine on and the lamp went out. In spite of this, she liked the cleaner very much. As I am sure we are all aware of, the Automatic 330 and 345 cylinder cleaners did exactly the same with the neon lamp, using the bag full lamp as a way of indicating that the power was on. The fact that it would illuminate when the cleaner was switched off, irrespective of how full or empty the bag may have been was rather short-sighted and confusing I felt. I think the lamp should have had no writing against it at all, or words to the effect that it indicated both power to the cleaner and a full bag, or have had two separate indicators to demonstrate the current status of the cleaner.


Post# 187127 , Reply# 17   6/25/2012 at 14:50 (4,316 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Lamp switch

It was and still is ( on many commercial vacuums ) a saftey system letting you know the machine is plugged in.


Post# 187128 , Reply# 18   6/25/2012 at 15:03 (4,316 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hello Gary, yes I realise this, but what I was meaning was the fact that the lamp goes out when the cleaner is switched on is described in the booklet as being some kind of feature. Due to the way in which the lamp is wired, there is no way for it not to go out and it is my opinion that Electrolux made mention of it going out so as to pacify an inquisitive consumer. I feel that really Electrolux would have preferred to have fitted a neon which was permanently on when the cleaner was connected to the mains, like on their model 170, but this would have required further modification to an existing moulding, whereas a switch with a built in lamp did not as if fits into the same hole where a none illuminated switch would otherwise be located. The downside of it was of course that the lamp goes out when the motor is running.

Post# 187212 , Reply# 19   6/26/2012 at 07:16 (4,316 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Gareth:

Actually the Canadian and American plugs are the same. I put an English plug on that machine when I had it on display to keep people from playing with it.

Some people cant seem to understand the concept of look dont touch.

Doug


Post# 187216 , Reply# 20   6/26/2012 at 07:48 (4,316 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
LOL

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Hi Doug. That is so true lol! I get people come over who want to look but end up touching most things. Even if you have posters saying "Please don't touch" And there not always gentle when they do touch. Same when you put a sign up saying "Private" or "No one beyond this point" They seem to look at it and ignore it! Some people need a good slap!;o)

James:o)



Post# 187305 , Reply# 21   6/27/2012 at 10:14 (4,314 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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The ones I hate are the ones whos kids are into everything and they just stand there and watch instead of telling them to get out of there and not touch. Come on people. Take resposibility for your kids.

Post# 187542 , Reply# 22   6/29/2012 at 10:44 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        
506 Electronic c1980

I bought this from a friend yesterday, it's in mint condition.

Post# 187550 , Reply# 23   6/29/2012 at 11:56 (4,312 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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These were the best selling vacuums in SA during the eighties, I have a 560 in my showroom ( same colour different badge)
Every customer that comes in here says , Oh my mom had one of those or my gran or I had one.

In the late 90"s once these had outlived there usefulness and every one wanted a wet& dry. the second hand shops were filled with them, I remember seeing 25 standing in one cash converters shop

To me this was the vacuum that put Electrolux on the map, up until then every one had Hoovers.
The 500 range was light years ahead of its time and this model particularly was fantastic


Post# 187551 , Reply# 24   6/29/2012 at 12:01 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

I totally agree, even today they really are a great cleaner. I used to both 506 and 560.

Post# 187553 , Reply# 25   6/29/2012 at 12:05 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

1980 Electrolux 506 brochure

Post# 187554 , Reply# 26   6/29/2012 at 12:06 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

1980 Electrolux 506 brochure

Post# 187557 , Reply# 27   6/29/2012 at 12:47 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        
pop!

Just been using my 506 and was sitting down to eat dinner when all of a sudden the bloody thing blew up :( the suppressor has blown annoyingly



Post# 187562 , Reply# 28   6/29/2012 at 14:03 (4,312 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Oops!

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Oops! That happened to me with the spare Electrolux z504 that I was about to pass on to someone else.

James:o)


Post# 187564 , Reply# 29   6/29/2012 at 14:26 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

it did go with quite a bang, my dinner nearly ended up on the floor lol glad it didn't go in my hand while I was using it

Post# 187589 , Reply# 30   6/29/2012 at 16:50 (4,312 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

It happens a lot on this model, I think it is because of that particular type of suppressor, which is different from the one Electrolux always used to use. Usually this type of suppressor blows if it has become damp. Why it is there in the handle and not on the motor I don't know, but I would hazard a chance on it being something to do with suppressing the cleaner before the electronic parts are reached, unlike models with the suppressor on the motor where the electronic unit is wired into the circuit before the suppressor. In reality I think it makes little difference as on the Contour cleaners the suppressor comes after the electronic unit.



Post# 187590 , Reply# 31   6/29/2012 at 16:51 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

can the suppressor be bypassed on these?

Post# 187593 , Reply# 32   6/29/2012 at 17:14 (4,312 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Not bypassed, but it can be removed altogether. I am not a technical person, so I don't know how it will or won't affect modern TV sets if you remove it.

Post# 187598 , Reply# 33   6/29/2012 at 17:54 (4,312 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

I'll give it a go tomorrow and see what happens lol

Post# 187673 , Reply# 34   6/30/2012 at 02:18 (4,312 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I used to rip them out all the time, It will make lines on your TV thats it so don't vacuum with the TV on

Post# 187758 , Reply# 35   6/30/2012 at 15:14 (4,311 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

hmmm took it out, now I have no power at all lol could it have blown the fuse in the plug too?

Post# 187768 , Reply# 36   6/30/2012 at 16:07 (4,311 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Yes, very likely it blew the fuse too. Now this has made me laugh so much. In my day we'd have had the fuse out, tested it, and checked the appliance to see what was wrong before fitting a new fuse. You youngsters, you just put a message on the internet. Oh how you made an old man smile.

Post# 187769 , Reply# 37   6/30/2012 at 16:27 (4,311 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

lol thats how its done these days

Post# 187771 , Reply# 38   6/30/2012 at 16:47 (4,311 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

well she lives on! was just the fuse that needed replacing. And it doesn't affect the tv either!

Post# 187772 , Reply# 39   6/30/2012 at 16:58 (4,311 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Ryry there is an important lesson there, one should never, ever replace a fuse without first identifying why it blew. In your case you knew why. However, unless a fuse is rather old or has suffered a lot of stress as a result of being used on another appliance in the past, or is too low to handle the loading or start-up power surge, it should only blow under fault conditions. All too often people quickly whip out a fuse and say "Oh it was only a fuse that had blown" as though it was to be expected on a daily basis.

Post# 187773 , Reply# 40   6/30/2012 at 17:06 (4,311 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

true, i'm not an engineer but I know the basics. I know that fuses rarely just blow for no reason lol i'm just glad that bloody suppressor is out, I haven't got to worry about it going bang while i'm using it now. I managed to find a donor 506 today actually, but looks like I wont need it now.

Post# 187785 , Reply# 41   6/30/2012 at 20:51 (4,311 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

fine looking machine...

Post# 187844 , Reply# 42   7/1/2012 at 17:41 (4,310 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Suppressors...

Are there for a reason. Without them you may cause interference not only to your own television and radio equipment, but to neighbours as well.

Since the UK is switching to digital transmissions, it is even more important that suppression of electrical impulse interference takes place. It is this interference that destroys the digital signal.

If neighbours complain and nothing is done, the relevant bodies can take steps to locate and fine the perpetrator. Do not operate the appliance without the correct suppressor in place.


Post# 187856 , Reply# 43   7/1/2012 at 18:38 (4,310 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

i'm sure it wont be too much of a problem. It's not like I use it everyday

Post# 187869 , Reply# 44   7/1/2012 at 21:35 (4,310 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Just a quirky comment on this unique European upright.....

The motorhead is quite bulky for a bag-first design, as the motor rests in the lower part of the vacuum, not in the handle part as in the innovative sleek Singer of the 1950's and the Hoover Dial-A-Matic. Because of this, the motor sits far forward of the assembly in the Electrolux, compared with positioning further to the rear under the bag compartment.

On the one hand, this seems to make it more difficult to get under furniture compared with the sleeker Hoover and Singer. On the other hand, the Electrolux design just begs for a headlight!!!! I guess here is where we see how headlights are a real North American "thing" these days - even though the old European Hoovers indeed had headlights......



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