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Thread Number: 17279
Royal Upright Bags, Fill tubes, ect |
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| Post# 185687 6/15/2012 at 18:33 (4,332 days old) by BrianKirbyClass (Eudora Kansas) | ||
Ben, or anyone that has Royal Uprights of the 60s, 70s, 80s, could you please take pics and show the bag systems. Especially the ones that take the paper bags/liners.
Please forgive my ignorance on this,,have never used a Royal Upright, and am curious about the bags. Is there a docking system/fill tube simular to a Kirby, or what exactly is the inner bag clamped to,,or how is the paper bag held in place inside the outer bag? What are the Royal disposable bags like,,are they simular to the Kirby G Series bags, or are they Hepa like the Sentria bags, or? Is there such a thing as a Hepa bag system for converting the older Royal uprights? Im assuming they are made and still avalible from Royal? Is there such a thing as generic? Also, to hook up the hose to the front of a Royal Upright, there is a seperate tool used to take the belt off, and put it back on? How easy is this? I would think many housewives of the 50s, 60s, 70s,80s would have found this to be very unhandy? Also, the front head of the Royal does NOT come off like a Kirby does, is that correct? How does one go about changing the belt on a Royal Upright? IM assuming its not the same system as the Kirby Belt Lifter,,altho there are/were Royal models that DID have the belt lifter system like Kirby. Is there a way to modify a Royal bag with a Kirby G Series fill tube and bag coupler to take the Kirby G series bags? Thanks in advance! | ||
Post# 185694 , Reply# 2 6/15/2012 at 19:26 (4,331 days old) by KirbyClassicIII  (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Brian,
Yes, all Royal uprights made prior to about 1990 that used disposable paper bag inserts were of the type "A" style. 1989 and later models used the type "B" paper bag inserts and had a different fill tube. So the type "A" Royal bag systems were bottom fill, whereas the type "B" bag systems were top fill. To install the hose on a Royal, like Chad says, the front cover plate is removed from the nozzle. Then, detach the belt from the motor shaft (which drives the revolving brush) using the special black plastic belt lifter tool (or slotted screwdriver). You then hook up the attachment converter for the hose in place of the Adjust-O-Rite or other cover plate. Then hook up the female end of the hose to that and you're set. There were in fact three Royal models whose heads were detachable like the Kirby units: models 888 (Royal), 980 (Electro-Hygiene) and 990 (Galaxie Prestige). These were produced from 1971 through circa 1985. I'm not sure if there is a way as to modify the Royal to take Kirby HEPA bags. ~Ben | ||
| Post# 185733 , Reply# 3 6/15/2012 at 22:46 (4,331 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH) | ||
Royal Uprights
Brian,
There isn't much I can add to what Chad and Ben have told you already. Royal does make HEPA bags for the later models that use the type B bags, but I'm not sure if they're available in type A. To change belts, first remove the Adjust-o-rite cover and remove the belt from the shaft. Then turn the cleaner over, remove the rug guard (simply snaps off), and pull out one side of the brushroll, noting the position of the wear compensating brushroll end so you can reinstall it in the same position. Remove old belt from brushroll, replace with new one, and snap brushroll back into position. Snap rug guard back on and set cleaner right side up. Using belt lifter tool or flat screwdriver, stretch the belt up & over the shaft. Before replacing the adjust-o-rite plate, turn the cleaner on to make sure the belt is on the right way--if it isn't, it will come off the shaft as soon as the cleaner is turned on. Don't worry, this is much quicker to actually do than it is to tell about it! As for changing over for attachments, I think it's a little quicker & easier to pop off the cap and belt and plug in the hose on the Royal (I usually leave the hose adapter connected to the hose) than it is to remove the nozzle on the Kirby. Jeff | ||
| Post# 185755 , Reply# 4 6/16/2012 at 02:29 (4,331 days old) by BrianKirbyClass (Eudora Kansas) | ||
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