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Post# 185411   6/13/2012 at 15:43 (4,333 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        

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Hi all. I have been given several vacs by a good friend Of mine.
He gave me the hard bagged Goblin housemaid a few months ago but it was missing the bumper. He has since found the correct bumper
The soft bagged Goblin housemaid and the Hotpoint light and easy was made up of several of the same model. It took some time but I think it was worth it:o)
There getting very hard to find.I've fitted NOS burshrolls in all three vacs.
I was also given a Moulinex Master but I've not even started it yet...

Hope you like them.

James:o)


Post# 185412 , Reply# 1   6/13/2012 at 15:45 (4,333 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hard bagged Goblin Housemaid

Post# 185413 , Reply# 2   6/13/2012 at 15:46 (4,333 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Soft bagged Goblin Housemaid

Post# 185415 , Reply# 3   6/13/2012 at 15:47 (4,333 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Close up of the soft bagged Housemaid.

Post# 185416 , Reply# 4   6/13/2012 at 15:50 (4,333 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Both Goblin Housemaids together:o)

James:o)


Post# 185420 , Reply# 5   6/13/2012 at 17:16 (4,333 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

You will see there is an obvious difference in size of the lens panel on the headlights. This was because in the very rare event that the headlight would last more than five minutes it could melt the lens on the older models. I did see this once or twice. So Goblin made a bigger lens on newer models, but as the softbag and hardbag cleaners both came with and without a headlight depending on the model, the blanking panel on the cleaners without a headlight was always the same size as the original headlight lens was as it didn't need to be larger of course as there was no bulb to melt it.

Post# 185580 , Reply# 6   6/15/2012 at 06:48 (4,331 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

Love the Housemaids, such a 70's looking vacuum. They don't actually perform that badly. One of my holy grail vacuums is the Commander hard bag in red though, want one of those so bad!

Post# 185600 , Reply# 7   6/15/2012 at 10:54 (4,331 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        

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James, thanks for posting these pics. My mum had the Hotpoint ( complete with tools ), she bought it in 1968 but only lasted 6 or so years. The height right control broke so the cleaner became a pain to use as you had to tip it forward to make the nozzle contact the floor. Was replaced with an Electrolux 160.

I love the styling of the Goblin Housemaid. My mum's cousin had one but I never got to play with it.


Post# 185608 , Reply# 8   6/15/2012 at 12:22 (4,331 days old) by borusa (Edinburgh)        

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Always wanted to try those two - seen but never used. I seem to remember my auntie having a vacuum looking exactly like the Hotpoint but it said Morphy Richards on the front. Is this my ever failing memory or has anyone else seen one??

Post# 185611 , Reply# 9   6/15/2012 at 12:28 (4,331 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
Oh my!

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Another vacuum fiend in Edinburgh!!!

I am don't know if the Hotpoint was ever sold as Morphy Richards, would be great to see one if it was. I do remember a friend of my grandma's had a the one that was sold as Spinney Light and Easy in the late 70's/ early 80's.


Post# 185639 , Reply# 10   6/15/2012 at 15:37 (4,331 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
One of my holy grail vacuums is the Commander hard bag in re

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My first school had one of those :P

Post# 185640 , Reply# 11   6/15/2012 at 15:38 (4,331 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Paulc my mother and I took our redundancies from Morphy Richards in 1970 and prior to this I am almost certain the only cleaners in the UK to carry the MR name were a 1950s upright which looked a good deal like a Hoover 1224, and the others were cylinders. I think even then there were only two; one like a Hoover constellation and another just a standard cylinder. I do know that for the overseas market Morphy Richards did deals with other manufacturers but this was way out of the areas I worked in.

Our redundancies were as a result of on going massive changes made to the company after GEC bought up most of the companies who owned it. Hotpoint was a brand owned by AEI who were involved with Morphy Richards from the middle of the 1960's and they went on to call the whole organisation 'Hotpoint' in the mid 1970's, which is why a good deal of Morphy Richards appliances from this time carry the Hotpoint name on the ratings plate. This of course was long after I had left, but it would not surprise me in the slightest if a Hotpoint light & easy cleaner came to light with the Morphy Richards name on it. I have never seen such a machine, but seeing how you asked the question I am wondering if think you may have?


Post# 185647 , Reply# 12   6/15/2012 at 15:56 (4,331 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
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I have never seen a Morphy Richards badged Hotpoint, as I said to Borusa, I have only ever seen them under Hotpoint and Spinney Light and Easy. I do however remember seeing a maroon Hotpoint with ,I think a grey bag, in a catalouge. When I read Borusa's comment about a possible Morphy Richard's/Hotpoint the maroon Hotpoint sprang to mind. I have no idea what catalouge it would have been in or what year, maybe I may be mistaken but it is a very vivid picture I have in my head. Sorry I can't be more specific.

Post# 185648 , Reply# 13   6/15/2012 at 16:04 (4,331 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Sorry I did not see Borusa's comment until you refereed to it just now. As I say, it is quite possible as they were the same company.

Post# 185650 , Reply# 14   6/15/2012 at 16:23 (4,331 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
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I just wish my memory was a bit better!!! I was given my Mum's Hotpoint as a "toy" but my Dad cut the power cord off as my parents were worried I would try and take the cleaner apart whilst plugged in. I don't know if I mentioned this before but the man who ran our local vac shop had a scar on his arm he got when he was two, he had cut through the power cord of his mum's vacuum whilst she was cleaning, the live cord had ran down his arm causing burns. He was very very lucky not to be killed.

Post# 185651 , Reply# 15   6/15/2012 at 16:27 (4,331 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I am intrigued by you saying your mother had an Electrolux 160 after 6 years of the 1968 Hotpoint as the 160 would have finished by then and replaced by the 170. Was it bought from new?

Post# 185654 , Reply# 16   6/15/2012 at 16:39 (4,331 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
The 160

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was a recon, sorry I should have made that clear, I seem to remember it arriving assembled in a big plastic bag, Grandma bought herself and my mum one from the local vacuum repair man, no tools though. I used to love going to his shop and seeing the display he had of reconditioned vacuums. Lots of 1224's, most with the norweb/manweb logo, a few seniors, 1334's and a couple of Electrolux 500's along with 160's mostly the white variety but he did have a couple with the chocolate coloured bases.

As the 160 had no tools my mum bought a moulinex hand held cleaner to do the stairs and furniture.


Post# 185656 , Reply# 17   6/15/2012 at 16:43 (4,331 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
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At some point the Hotpoint became the Parry Light and Easy - light blue with a grey bag I thimk - I presume Hotpoint sold the moulds and production rights to another company after they brought out their all new and completely Swallow range - and there are not many of those around I can tell you! At a later stage it became just Light and Easy with, I think, a butterfly decal on the front cover - i can only recall the light blue/grey combo, but it may well have been in other colours as well.

In fact the L&E beagn life in 1960s with two colour schemes - pink (a la Hoover) and Torquoise although I dont think the base had the darker colour. All these L&E cleaners are quite rare for some reason for they were certainly around for a long time in one form and another and there is not doubt they were light!


Post# 185657 , Reply# 18   6/15/2012 at 16:47 (4,331 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Vacbear, those earliest models you refer to must have been the type with the large external connection box on the back of the handle, with a plastic dolly switch in the top. The newest models had a foot switch, I think this was 1970's, and finally this cleaner had two flex hooks fitted to the handle in the late 1980's - early 1990's instead of a pocket on the bag.

Post# 185658 , Reply# 19   6/15/2012 at 16:50 (4,331 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
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Thanks for jogging my memory! My grandma's friend's Light and Easy did in fact have the butterfly logo on it but his was a mustard coloured base and white handle grip. I think the bag was light grey. It's times like these I wish I had a photographic memory!!!

Post# 185660 , Reply# 20   6/15/2012 at 16:52 (4,331 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Paul

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I have that colour scheme L&E but without the butterfly - its still a Hotpoint too

Post# 185661 , Reply# 21   6/15/2012 at 16:55 (4,331 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi, My grandma use to have a mostly dark brown Parry LnE. That have a butterfly logo on the front of the belt cover.
Just for ref here is a old pic with my red commander in it.

James:o)


Post# 185663 , Reply# 22   6/15/2012 at 16:57 (4,331 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
Oh WOW!!!

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Lucky you! I really wish I had the space to collect. I just have to rely on my foggy memory and other peoples pics, of which I am very thankful for. I did have loads of brochures and catalogues from the 70's when I was a child but was made to give them up as I should've "grown out of this phase" according to my dad.

Post# 185666 , Reply# 23   6/15/2012 at 17:01 (4,331 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I would very much like to offer an opinion on how well both the Goblin Commander and Housemaid cleaners performed, except that I never used one from new and all the ones which came to my attention were very broken in every which way. I do remember the plastic of the Housemaid being very thin and fragile, whilst a lot of plastic on the Commander was chunky but rock hard and parts would often just be broken in two.

Post# 185674 , Reply# 24   6/15/2012 at 17:29 (4,331 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
What Which thought about them

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I think this is a bit harsh myself, I have a softbag Housemaid and I thought it performed quite well

Post# 185677 , Reply# 25   6/15/2012 at 17:36 (4,330 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
Ah........

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and there is my mum's handheld Moulinex 250, I must say I totally agree with the Which? report on that, all round a pretty poor handheld, epecially compared to a Dustette.

Post# 185684 , Reply# 26   6/15/2012 at 17:53 (4,330 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Its confusing

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as there is a printing error - the machine shown as the 250 is actually the Petitvac #1 and vice versa - i am not sure which bit of text goes with which. I have both but to my shame have never actually tried either. Maybe time for a hand vacuum thread :)

Post# 185797 , Reply# 27   6/16/2012 at 04:33 (4,330 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi Alistair, Thanks for posting the Which report on the Goblins.
I agree with you and find the Goblin Housemaids clean quite well. I'm not saying there the best vac that was out at the time but they clean fine. Esp with a NOS brush roller in it. Same for the Goblin Commanders. I would say the Commanders clean better than the Housemaids as they are more powerfuland have a different fan from the earlier Housemaids.

Hi Paul. It's a shame you got rid of your brochures etc. It would of been nice to of seen them. I bet you felt like slapping you dad for comments like you should've "grown out of this phase" My dad and quite a few other family memebers was never keen on my liking vacs.

I've never tried the Moulinex stick vacs. Generally stick vacs arn't my thing.

James:o)


Post# 185806 , Reply# 28   6/16/2012 at 05:52 (4,330 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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OMG I had forgotten the name "Parry." Ty for the memories. My gran's best friend had a Parry in black / dark blue and also a Light n Easy Spinney/butterfly beige model from Great Universal, as did most of their appliances if you bought the "exclusive" Great Universal branded stuff.


Post# 185811 , Reply# 29   6/16/2012 at 07:02 (4,330 days old) by borusa (Edinburgh)        

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The one at my aunties would have been in the mid to late seventies and was the same design as the one in the picture at the start. Like Paul I had a load of brochures and a scrap book remember there two hotpoint light n easy colours the blue and green one and a yellow and cream bag one.

Has anyone uploaded any videos either of the housemaid or Hotpoint in use? Would also love to see the Hotpoint Swallow - never seen one in real life !


Post# 185823 , Reply# 30   6/16/2012 at 10:02 (4,330 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh)        
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I am sure Chestermike has a Hotpoint Swallow. Truly beautiful machines, I remember seeing one in person when I was little and was awe struck, although I was not allowed to touch it :-( .

I have not seen any video's of the Hotpoint or Housemaid's in use. I seem to remember the Hotpoint's were a bit on the noisy side but performed well, in fact I am sure that is why my Mum bought one as it got a favorable review in Which? along with the Hotpoint Supermatic twin tub she bought at the same time.


Post# 186265 , Reply# 31   6/19/2012 at 14:51 (4,327 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi. Today I took a pic of the soft and hard bag Goblin Housemaid,Commander andd Laser. So you go from the 70s,80s and 90s:o)



Post# 186266 , Reply# 32   6/19/2012 at 14:52 (4,327 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Oh when I get chance I'll do a video of the Hotpoint LnE and Goblin Housemaids.

James:o)


Post# 186415 , Reply# 33   6/20/2012 at 03:01 (4,326 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Excellent. Your hardbag and softbag Housemaids need to switch positions as the softbag you have there is older than the blue hardbag, possibly even from the 1980's. I know later models were equipped with a lower case font on the name Goblin.

Post# 186591 , Reply# 34   6/21/2012 at 06:10 (4,325 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Umm.

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yes lol:o) I assume you ment the soft bag model in the picture is newer than the blue hard bag model but I wasn't lining them up strictly oldest to newest just the Housemaids were 1st and designed in the 70s followed by the Commanders designed in the 80s then Laser from the 90s. I believe the blue Housemaid was from around 1977/78ish and the brown Housemaid from around 1980/82ish. I think I have a scanned page of a catalogue somewhere of the Goblin housemaid and a Electrolux 502s and soft bagged philips upright. I do actully have a blue soft bagged housemaid as well but it's in poor shape.

James:o)


Post# 186652 , Reply# 35   6/21/2012 at 14:07 (4,325 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hello James, yes forgive me, because as you correctly deciphered, I did mean that the softbag Goblin cleaner was newer, not older, than the blue hardbag one which you own. Incidentally, though it's been a good deal of years since I worked on either a Commander or a Housemaid, I do remember that many parts of Commander cleaners were compatible with the Housemaid. Have you found this? The reason I mention it is because you may be able to refurbish an old Housemaid cleaner with some Commander parts, which I assume may be easier to locate.

Post# 186659 , Reply# 36   6/21/2012 at 14:28 (4,325 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

Soooooooo jealous of that red Commander, if you could look up 1985 the dictionary it would have a picture of Grace Jones and a red Goblin Commander lol

Post# 186672 , Reply# 37   6/21/2012 at 16:36 (4,325 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Hey, is that a HOOVER Ranger U4014 in the background ?

Post# 186675 , Reply# 38   6/21/2012 at 16:55 (4,325 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Looks like it is, young Jamie. Have you seen one before?

Post# 186680 , Reply# 39   6/21/2012 at 17:19 (4,325 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"Looks like it is, young Jamie. Have you seen one before?" That's the thing Benny, I could swear it looks familiar... Just can't place it!

Post# 186683 , Reply# 40   6/21/2012 at 17:21 (4,325 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi Benny, Yeah many of the parts are similar in the Housemaid and commander.
The spares I need to repair the blue soft bagged Housemaid are mainly cosmetic like a blue bumper, Bag clip retainer etc. The other spares I need like the motor and metal fan I can take from the spare brown soft bag Housemaid that's also in poor condition.

Commander and Housemaid spares are very hard to come by now.
I managed to get hold of a few NOS brush rolls and a few other odd parts but nothing much more. The HM and C had the same roller.

I've spoke to quite a few other vac shop owners with me being in the trade but most of them binned there spare Housemaid and Commanders parts years ago as they just stopped seeing them come in for repairs. One of my suppliers use to be a Goblin agent and had loads of HM/C spares as he use to get 100s in for repair under guarantee. Again he binned most of the spares when the vacs stopped coming in. I missed the last lot he binned a year or so back by a few months:o(

You never know I might get the spare blue parts I need if I'm lucky.

Ryan when I 1st read what you said about 1985 I had images of Grace Jones using a red Goblin Commander as some kind of advert lol.

James:o)


Post# 186684 , Reply# 41   6/21/2012 at 17:22 (4,325 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Well I'll be God damned, as they say in the American movies, I spot a Turbopower 1000 U2812 as well!

Post# 186687 , Reply# 42   6/21/2012 at 17:40 (4,324 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Hello James. What you say rings quite true with my own experiences. Goblin vacuum cleaners were amongst the cheapest of all on sale. The build quality was poor overall and if I said they were rough around the edges, often literally so, I think I am not being unfair. To a good deal of people who owned a Goblin, it was simply not worth the financial cost or the time to take it for repair. If I had them in for repair, it would only be for blockages, belts, or a new mains lead and so on and so forth. If the cleaner needed parts so to speak, it was rarely cost effective to order from brand new stock, yet waiting for a 2nd hand cleaner to come by to use for spares was like waiting for God, and even then there was no knowing if the same part had failed on the would-be donor machine.

I didn't dare hold any Goblin parts as stock items, which is in contrast to Hoover and Electrolux where I kept many a part available as I knew what I would and wouldn't be able to use in the fullness of time.

As a side comment, have you noticed how the width of the Housemaid cleaner exceeds it's depth? Because of this, I always felt an overwhelming urge to operate the cleaner with two hands, as if it were a carpet sweeper or a snow shovel. I felt the same when using an Oreck too. I find it fascinating how the size and shape of a cleaner can affect the way one uses it. Those cleaners with narrow, deep cleaning heads or square cleaning heads were always easy to use with one hand only.


Post# 186707 , Reply# 43   6/21/2012 at 21:28 (4,324 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        

I never liked Goblin machines. I saw them as cheap and nasty from a distance (pages of mums home shopping catalogue). I also saw them close up - still cheap and nasty.

Where Hoover and Electrolux would weld or glue handle parts together, Goblin visibly screwed the two halves of the handle together.

A Goblin Commander that I used refused to remove grit from the carpet. The suction was terrible.


Post# 186723 , Reply# 44   6/22/2012 at 05:01 (4,324 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Hi Benny, Yep I understand what you mean about the Housemaid and other vacs where the width is quite a bit longer than the depth.Although I still only use one hand lol.
As Iv'e said before the build quality was not brilliant. I think what sold them is that they was cheap and the soft bag models are quite light.
The cleaning proformance isn't bad at all.Wasn't the best on the market but it was decent. The hose suction on the commander is decent as it don't use a pan converter as it has it's own suction port.I don't know what the hose suction is like on the Housemaids as I don't have the hose with pan converter to try that out.

Over all I do like the Goblin Housemaids and Commanders.
I wouldn't mind the Electra version of the soft bagged Housemaid. It was a yellowish kind of colour. My step dad had one when he meet my mum in the late 80s. I've never seen one since then.

James:o)


Post# 186724 , Reply# 45   6/22/2012 at 05:10 (4,324 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I miss the early Goblin uprights. 'Always wanted a Laser - I loved the shape of it.


Post# 186774 , Reply# 46   6/22/2012 at 16:43 (4,324 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Goblin seemed to know it's place in the market and stuck to it. You may notice I talk about built-in failure in appliances quite a lot. Goblin seemed to have it covered from all angles as the cleaners were usually a good deal cheaper than their competition, they worked OK, and they were built to last what one might call 'long enough'. If I heard it once I must have heard it a million times, when a customer passed comment about a Goblin cleaner (or indeed any cheap cleaner for that matter) breaking down or falling apart, or just not being very good, they often mentioned that they'd not given very much money for it from the outset and that one gets what one pays for.

The whole experience of using a Goblin cleaner would generally be one of lesser quality, if indeed one can go as far as to talk about a cleaning experience being one of quality or not. What Goblin rarely did, if indeed ever, was to sell their below-average quality cleaners with a top-end price tag. Other manufacturers do so, for a good deal of reasons I know, but that doesn't mean it is right. You know I'm not a liker or dis-liker of Dyson cleaners as I feel they have much in their favour and much against, but to me the build quality has always fallen well short of the asking price. Of course the quality has got better as time has passed, but I still feel it is on the poor side.


Post# 189538 , Reply# 47   7/11/2012 at 14:32 (4,305 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        
for those who haven't seen them...

heres my latest vids First up, the Commander...

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Post# 189539 , Reply# 48   7/11/2012 at 14:32 (4,305 days old) by ryry_87 (Earth)        

And the Housemaid…



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Post# 189607 , Reply# 49   7/12/2012 at 04:41 (4,304 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Great....

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Great videos Mr Ryan:o)

James:o)


Post# 189608 , Reply# 50   7/12/2012 at 05:10 (4,304 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
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...I appear to have miss-placed your e-mail address. Hit me up - address on my profile!

 

Chris



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