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Post# 184603   6/6/2012 at 21:18 (2,863 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        

After visiting several Miele dealers today I bought this new machine.
I tried all the floor nozzles from straight suction,turbine brush and both electric carpet tools.
Because of the types of carpet I have they advised me to get the 217.
I was advised by the dealer:
The machine is made in Germany and so is the 217 power nozzle. They showed me how
it has the same amount of suction as the larger S5's.
I have not had much time to try it out but so far I have found several nice features:
(1) light weight
(2) very powerful suction (cannot use the setting above 4 or the power nozzle SEALS to the rug and cleaning action stops)
(3) seems to have good build quality
(4) very ,very quiet machine
(5) 217 works better than I expected and grooms the carpet very nice
Also a FEW things I do not like about the machine:
(1) power cord is too short
(2) electric hose is too short
(3) hate in doll sized dusting brush
(4) wand is heavy feeling in use
(5) bags are expensive
It seems like a nice entry level machine compared to some other new machines on the market. Will have to wait and see about the dust and odor from the bag. This machine will go in the collection but will not replace the Rainbow for daily use.

Post# 184610 , Reply# 1   6/6/2012 at 21:36 (2,863 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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I have a Miele Callisto.  It's a very nice vacuum.  But as you noted the hose is too short.  The bags are expensive, but they're also indestructible and filter very well.  Overall, I think it's a great vacuum.  Although, I'm not fond of the small casters.  They don't roll as freely on carpet. 

Post# 184614 , Reply# 2   6/6/2012 at 22:10 (2,863 days old) by mieles7 (DFW, TX)        

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That machine looks great! How big is it compared to other canisters?

Post# 184621 , Reply# 3   6/6/2012 at 22:54 (2,863 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

They all looked about the same size to me! I do know this is not the small series and it uses the same bags as the S5 Series.

Post# 184624 , Reply# 4   6/6/2012 at 23:23 (2,863 days old) by vacman117 (Valparaiso, IN)        

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I'm a little confused. On Amazon, the Olympus is a straight suction canister on Amazon. Is there also a model that includes a power nozzle? Or does the Olympus come with a power nozzle port as an option?


Post# 184632 , Reply# 5   6/7/2012 at 01:57 (2,863 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        
Doll dust brush

Don't despair-sometimes the doll sized brush is handy for small spaces and --detailing the car!And it works on electronic gear.

Post# 184634 , Reply# 6   6/7/2012 at 02:24 (2,863 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio)        

All Miele S2 vacuums are equipped with a PN port... It appears that this dealer thought it would be best to equip an Olympus with an electric hose and wand instead of just selling a Delphi which is the same vacuum in the same color but comes standard with a PN.

Post# 184642 , Reply# 7   6/7/2012 at 05:06 (2,863 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I Tried a Miele Today

It is the most confusing marketing system that Miele uses!
All the machines are the same but with different names according to what floor tools and filter options you buy.
In the product line I got they had 3 machines:
(1) Olympus
(2) Delphi
(3) Titan
If you look at Miele's feature chart they are all the same machines but I wanted the WHITE machine WITH the SEB217 power nozzle.
I got so confused at the first dealer,that I just left. Of course all dealers do not carry ALL machines in stock but they "CUSTOM" build what you want. In my example I wanted the electric power brush BUT I did not like the TiTan which came in Chili Red.
I think it would be VERY confusing for a non vac person to shop in the dealers as they all look alike and the optional products are alike with differrent lines (S2,S5)and some in the same color and very very close in size.
That is a good idea for the baby dusting tool because it is useless as a regular dusting brush.

Post# 184644 , Reply# 8   6/7/2012 at 06:32 (2,863 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I think Meile should include the full size dusting tool along with the smaller one.Esp on the higher priced machines.

Post# 184651 , Reply# 9   6/7/2012 at 07:54 (2,863 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I had a Capricorn and had the same likes/dislikes that you have stated. I ended up selling it and getting a Filter Queen. The short, stiff hose, short cord and lack of maneuverability on my medium pile carpet due to the small wheels were the main reasons I got rid of it.


Post# 184652 , Reply# 10   6/7/2012 at 08:00 (2,863 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele Today

I agree with you . Any machine that is over $500.00 should at least have a usable dust brush.
Some observations today:
I like the extra long wand that the length can be changed and I like the tools being right on top where I can easily reach them.
I just hate the short cord and hose because it forces the machine to be right under your feet
all the time it has a tendency to half tip over. It is nice that it is so light as you are pulling it all the time.
I was spoiled by my other vacuum being able to sit in the middle of the room and with the long cord and electric hose,I didn't have to move but one time.
Also not crazy about the power nozzle not standing on it's own. You are forced to either prop it on some furniture or put it back on the machine's wand holder.
The power nozzle grooms the carpet very nice but it is hard to push because the small wheels sink into the rug.
It does seem to have good build quality.
I think this machine would be great if you lived in a small apartment.

Post# 184653 , Reply# 11   6/7/2012 at 08:11 (2,863 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
It is the most confusing marketing system that Miele uses!

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Tell me about it! Miele UK are confusing to say the least, not helped by special "exclusive" versions that have an extra price added on because of the colour and a confusing model line up judged by the number variations. The white S2 shown here is an exclusive colour in the UK alongside the dark grey version and all we get are suction only heads and fixed height twin tubes that are smaller in height than the "standard" telescopic height adjustable ones. Buyers are strangely then pushed to spend more on the S6 which is supposed to be the new "S4" because it has a smaller body and a small dust bag - but when you've got the S2 with the bigger bags, sometimes it's a no-brainer until you get the machine out of the box and realise where Miele have been stingy.


Of course buyers who don't know any different without researching won't know this.

Post# 184659 , Reply# 12   6/7/2012 at 08:42 (2,862 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Just like my Titan, same complaints and observations

Post# 184660 , Reply# 13   6/7/2012 at 08:59 (2,862 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

My capicorn replaced my rainbow.

Post# 184730 , Reply# 14   6/7/2012 at 21:48 (2,862 days old) by vacu-finder ()        

Miele is a great machine. But for the price of them 10 years ago i would of rather owned a Lux. Prices have come down in the last 5 years.
Miele has great Suction.
Well built.
Good power nozzle.
Sealed machine thus providing good hepa filtration.

Something the salesman does not tell you.......well they break down eventually just every other Vac..!
Parts are expensive...And I Will Repeat This One..
Most Shops Carry very Few Parts for Them. Do mind waiting a week or so for the part..!!

Post# 184744 , Reply# 15   6/7/2012 at 23:58 (2,862 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)        

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Miele makes an excellent vacuum and while they are expensive, after having owned three I have found them to be well made and able to tolerate abuse, such as a housekeeper. From my own use I’ve found them to be one of the best high-end modern canisters available. And, Miele vacuums are also much more readily available than some of their “supposed” DTD competitors, as they have even been selling Miele vacs and bags in the two different Bloomingdale’s by me for the past 3+ years. Even Williams-Sonoma carries their own special models of Miele machines.

Their bags are pricey, especially when compared to something like basic Lux C bags but I won't ever use a paper Lux C bag after using the Perfect Canister HEPA bags, which cost almost as much as what I used to pay for Miele bags. I had a Red Velvet (which I bought new shortly after it came out) and also had a Blue Moon at the same time. In the few years that I owned them I think I only replaced the HEPA filter in the Red Velvet once. The Miele bags at that time had just recently changed to the cloth like bags, and even back then they filtered the dust so well I never thought the HEPA filter needed to be changed. I only changed it because I thought that was what you were "supposed" to do. I never really noticed any dust on the filter so after that I thought it would be a waste to spend $60 on a filter that probably didn't even need to be changed, and never bothered with it again.

I’ve tried the SEB217 p/n, its compact, easy to move around, and cleans well if you have the right carpet (probably best suited for commercial style or very low pile carpeting). For my own personal use, I had the SEB236 with the Red Velvet, and I think it was the 226(?) for the Blue Moon. I can't remember what the model number was off the top of my head but it was the original full sized power nozzle that came out with the White Pearl and continued until the Red Velvet & 236 were released. Both power nozzles did an amazing job cleaning my carpets, and I would love to be able to use either one with my central vac. If you really want a power nozzle that can truly compete with the Rainbow's power nozzle, then possibly exchange the 217 for the 236. It will clean circles around the 217 and there will be no issues with the nozzle sticking to your carpet. In my opinion the 236 or even the new 228 are probably two of the best, if not the best modern power nozzles currently on the market. Best of luck with your new Miele and many hours of happy vacuuming!!

Post# 184751 , Reply# 16   6/8/2012 at 03:35 (2,862 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well from my own experience Miele vacuums are good - to a point. I much prefer the older canisters even though they come with the FJM bag size as standard. S500, S300 - they're virtually indestructible = from a domestic point of view and the only downside is that they are heavy. In the UK Comet have started to re-sell older cylinder vacs from Miele but at a price, often being more expensive now when at a time before our recession hit, they were more sensibly priced, before the onslaught of the S2 and half way between the S4 series when it was on sale.

Post# 184817 , Reply# 17   6/8/2012 at 22:06 (2,861 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

Does anyone know why Miele changed the wands from the grey wands to the new HEAVY Stainless wands? They are way too heavy and bulky and really undo the light feel of the machine itself.
At both Miele dealers I visted,they used the grey wands on the demonstation machines but the new ones in the box came with the heavy stainless wands. I have read other customer complaints about the heavy wands and now I believe it after using them.

I was a little afraid of the other power nozzle just because it resembles a power nozzle that came on another new German Made vacuum I have and it's power nozzle is too aggressive if you are not careful.

Post# 184818 , Reply# 18   6/8/2012 at 22:10 (2,861 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        

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The new stainless steel wands have the electric on the outside of the tubing, supposedly creating more airflow. At least that is what I was told. I actually can't tell much difference if any with the air flow. I prefer the lighter weight one myself. Maybe others here have more information on this. I would be interested to know as well.

Bud Mattingly

Post# 184864 , Reply# 19   6/9/2012 at 05:39 (2,861 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Grey tubes? I've never seen those - the demo machines in the UK at Comet, John Lewis etc all come with the default stainless steel tubes - and yes, I agree, they are pretty heavy. Even Sebo's D series all s/s similar tubes are slightly lighter and not much of a struggle. 


I have used lighter aluminium Bosch tubes before with my Miele S6 in order to make performance lighter but it soon becomes clear why a locking tube is so much more important - friction fit tubes are what Bosch always fit and are the same size as Miele, often allowing you to use the better well thought smaller cleaning tools- but when it comes to the floor heads they have a tendency to slide off or become loose as there is corresponding lock catch.

Post# 185219 , Reply# 20   6/11/2012 at 20:20 (2,858 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

I made some changes in my Miele. I purchased the "real horse hair " dusting brush and also added the Miele straight suction rug/floor tool.
The BIG improvement was to exchange the horrible stainless steel wands for the classic gray lighter weight Miele wands.
It made a difference in how the power nozzle performed on my cut pile carpeting. The heavy stainless wands were causing the 217 to bog down in my carpets and made very difficult to push.
Hats off to the Miele dealer for the exchange. It is my understanding that the gray finished lighter weight wands will not be available except on one machine called the "HOME CARE SYSTEM".
The dealer was very helpful with the sale and after the sale when I was not too happy with my machine.
My machine now performs like a different vacuum.

Post# 185253 , Reply# 21   6/12/2012 at 07:14 (2,858 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Handy! What's the product code for those dark grey tubes?

Post# 185263 , Reply# 22   6/12/2012 at 11:15 (2,857 days old) by trav-styles ()        
I have one too!

Congrats on our purchase, I bought the same model with the 217, the Delphi. I got mine from a local Miele dealer in Chandler, AZ. I paid $499 plus tax, but they did throw in a free box of the Hyclean bags that sell for around $20-I thought that was a nice touch.

The dealer said it was a way to say "thank you" for purchasing locally--which is ironic, because up until the morning of I was convinced that I was going to buy it on Amazon-would have saved quite a bit on sales tax, but I wanted to support a local business and I also didn't want to wait for it to come :) I also bought the genuine horsehair duster, for around $20. It has a painted silver ring on the outside. I have yet to purchase a bare floor tool, the SEB 217 works really well on bare floors.

Hope you enjoy yours!

PS-I noticed that the S2 range got a slight cosmetic update-I got mine 2 years ago or so, the new ones say "Miele" on the sides of the Canister. They also added the "Made in Germany" mark under the "Miele" name on the top lid, they moved the power and cord-rewind emblems to the pedals, and the icons for different power levels are a little different.

My telescoping wand stopped conducting electricity, the dealer replaced it without question, even though this was just a few months ago--almost 2 years after I bought the machine, and way out of warranty. That part retails for $120 or so--so I guess in the end, purchasing from a local "Miele Diamond" dealer ended up saving me a lot of money and frustration.

Here's a little review I did a while ago-if you watch you'll notice the cosmetic differences.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO trav-styles's LINK

Post# 185266 , Reply# 23   6/12/2012 at 11:30 (2,857 days old) by trav-styles ()        

William--I've heard from several sources that the new wand-SET 220 (the heavier, stainless one) has an increased internal diameter as well as a smoother, more contoured internal surface as compared the the SET 210, which was the gunmetal grey wand.

Here's a link explaining the difference, it's in the last paragraph of the product description. Whether or not the airflow is increased or not, I can't say-this is my first Miele with a power nozzle. (I have the S4 Sirius, bare-floor only). The SET 220 that comes with the Delphi is heavy, but I personally don't mind. Everything about it seems to be very well made. I don't think Miele would just arbitrarily change if there was no need.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO trav-styles's LINK

Post# 185268 , Reply# 24   6/12/2012 at 12:06 (2,857 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Ty for that info, but aren't both these tubes electric?

Post# 185276 , Reply# 25   6/12/2012 at 13:18 (2,857 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele

Thanks for the information about the wands. If I had to keep the stainless wands-the machine was going back. Mine were so heavy and clunky that the 217 bogged down in the cut pile carpet. After the dealer was good enough to trade them for the
one new set he had on a "Home Care" model. Now the 217 and the floor tool work perfectly on my carpets and are easy to push.
It is somewhat strange that the Miele has such strong suction but the air flow does not seem to be as good as my Rainbow. Of course the Miele still has a new,empty bag.
The selling feature of the Miele was that is was light weight and easy to handle. In the store they were using the gray wands so I had no idea the difference until I got home. With the Miele's already short hose you are forced to use a wand section to dust or clean blinds and I just did not like the look or feel of the huge wands. Now it is a very different performing machine.
I bought from a local dealer for the same reason. I have heard it is not always quick to get replacement parts so thought the local dealer has a vested interest in local customers. The dealer was very nice and thanked me for buying local too.
If I had bought on the internet I would not have been able to make the correction so quick and easy.
My machine seems to be very well made compared to most new machines and it darn well should be quality at the price.
I ended up at over $600.00 by the time I got the dusting brush,floor tool and bags.
The only thing I don't like so far is saving and storing the dirt and filth in the closet and the house just does not smell as clean as when I use my Rainbow. I have asthma so if it starts smelling-it goes to the basement.
Thanks again for your information about the wands.

Post# 185277 , Reply# 26   6/12/2012 at 13:35 (2,857 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

When I went to look at the Miele,they were very proud of the fact and made a point to tell me it is made in Germany and has the famous Vortex motor. They showed me several machines (S4,S5) and one designed to be quieter but the differece was so slight I could not see the differnce in price. How could you want more suction as I cannot use mine past the 4th setting.
I too like the looks of this machine for some reason. I liked that it says "made in Germany" on the machine and the tools say Miele on each.
What a difference in the performance and ease of use of the 217 on my particular cut pile carpets with the lighter design Miele gray wands.

Post# 185289 , Reply# 27   6/12/2012 at 16:11 (2,857 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

With my Miele Vacuum, when i turn it on i smell dust, and i haven't Drop dead from the smell Yet. So you'll be ok.

Post# 185297 , Reply# 28   6/12/2012 at 17:20 (2,857 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

I have asthma, so I hope what you say is NOT true after spending a lot of money for a vacuuum that totes IT FILTERS the dust and they charge you a premium price for bags and filters to perform just that function.
Why would anyone buy an expensive product and not expect it to do what they claim it was designed to do? If yours smells too, I may not be at all happy with mine. If I wanted to smell leaking dust and filth I could have bought a cheap Walmart vacuum.
Are you sure you don't have clogged filters?

Post# 185306 , Reply# 29   6/12/2012 at 18:37 (2,857 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

Filters are clean i barly use it. I use my shark navigtor and no dusty smells

Post# 185308 , Reply# 30   6/12/2012 at 18:41 (2,857 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

You have pets , you will smell an oder. Sorry i meant to say a pet oder. And when i was using my miele. There was no dust on my stuff. But now i like my Shark. So my miele hasnt been used in months. And for my Rainbow i need to get it fixed or given away. No dusty smell

Post# 185309 , Reply# 31   6/12/2012 at 18:47 (2,857 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

I were you i would have waited till the S8 .

Post# 185365 , Reply# 32   6/13/2012 at 06:08 (2,857 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well Josh, if you have a dusty smelling Miele and it's not the filter or the bag, then it's definitely the tubes, suction pipe and floor head or just your imagination. 

Post# 185476 , Reply# 33   6/14/2012 at 07:26 (2,856 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

I have had the Miele for a week and I wanted to give a new update.
First,thanks to all the posters for the advise and comments. It really helped.
Here are some thoughts after using the new machine:

(1) the new gray wands really made a HUGE difference in the ease of use and the performance of the 217 on my cut pile rugs. The heavy stainless wands completely ruined the ease of use of the machine as they were too heavy and bulky.
(2) Love the Vortex motor with the strong suction
(3) QUIET,QUIET motor. Almost pleasing to hear it rev up and shut off.
(4) I liked the tool caddy. Very easy to change tools and no plastic door to fool with every time. The tools did not fall off one time.
(1) still hate the short power cord
(2) short electric hose forces you to use a wand when doing anything above the floor like dusting blinds (hense the ligher weight wands work better)
(3) there is a difference in the dust level in the house. I have dust on the glass table tops,mahogany furniture and the house just does not smell as good as when I
use the Rainbow.
(4) almost too much suction. My Rainbow has less suction but better airflow with the floor brush
I think it is a vey good vacuum and a good value for the money. Because it is so light,it would be great for older people and users who have a smaller home.
The build quality seems to be very good. It has a high quality look and feel and I like the sleek simplicity of the machine and power nozzle.

Post# 185486 , Reply# 34   6/14/2012 at 10:30 (2,855 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

About the dust level its not the same as with rainbow ?. Well i felt my house was a little bit cleaner with My Miele, then with my kirby. But i found the Miele more easy to use. Living in a Apartment the Rainbow was too much. It was like pulling a rock to me. It didnt follow around with me well. So i got tired of to the point i didnt care. And stop washing the bin out , and cleaning the sepator . Or even buying a new Hepa filter. Now i feel bad that i didnt baby it or take care of it well. i do have Allergies. But once i vacuum with the Miele and then dust, i am fine. And the house stays cleaner. With Using the Rainbow i could still walk across the carpet with the blind open and then walk and see dust in the air.

Post# 185500 , Reply# 35   6/14/2012 at 13:48 (2,855 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
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Miele Capricorn and I feel the same way about the machine .

When and only when I use my Rainbow or any other water vacuum is the dust problem under control to barely zero dust .

Most bagged machines smell as well as bagless . Nothing like a fresh water bath clean air dust free home .

I also have the Miele S7 Upright Salsa its a great upright but it really smells and I use the charcoal hepa filter and I have no idea why it smells so much .

My Kirby Sentria has only a very slight odor that you can barely smell so I have
no idea what is up with Miele .

My Tri Star , Filter Queen , Aerus , Vortech force , and Orecks also smell very little or not at all .

Post# 185504 , Reply# 36   6/14/2012 at 14:41 (2,855 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

With anyvacuum when you move it over the carpet you would kicking up dust. So it doesnt matter if you have a Rainbow , or Miele

Post# 185508 , Reply# 37   6/14/2012 at 15:38 (2,855 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
II tried a Miele today

I have had about the same experience as you. I really have had better luck wth my Oreck Platinum upright,Filter Queen with less smells. I have never used my TriStar enough because it is almost like having a bagless with the open paper bag.
The Miele seems like it has a more quailty look even in the plastics.

I can see why you would not like to use a Rainbow in an apartment. If you have the older style you would be forced to mess with the 2 sets of wands and hoses and the older style dolly. For sure you will need to replace the hepa filter IF you did not change the water and clean the separator.
Like any appliance cheap or expensive if you don't take care of it, performance will suffer.
Still, I am not understanding why you say your Miele smells every time you turn it on? I did notice all 3 times I visited a Miele dealer the demonstation machines DID smell bad. I thought it was because they had not had their filters changed but now Dan has just told us he has one of the Miele uprights and it smells too.
I have never had any odor from either my old Rainbow SE after 18 years or my new Rainbow BUT I DO change the water about every 30 minutes and dump and rinse the basin after use. For me that is a very small task and well worth my effort to help with the allergies and odors.
It always makes sense to me-you use water to wash your dishes,clothes and bath yourself so why try and handle dust in a dry state.
You might want to try this new light Miele. It would be easy to use in an apartment.

Post# 185510 , Reply# 38   6/14/2012 at 16:07 (2,855 days old) by joshdonnell ()        

I might like a hyla the only thing is no dealers. And dont wanna pay that much for one

Post# 185804 , Reply# 39   6/16/2012 at 05:42 (2,854 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Hey, how heavy are the SET 210 wands, on their own?

Post# 185815 , Reply# 40   6/16/2012 at 07:59 (2,854 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

It is not only the weight but look at the pictures I posted and you can see the difference in the diameter. The stainless wands just ruined the advantages designed into the Miele vacuum(light weight,easy to move and pick up). They felt heavy in your hand and along with the too short electric hose,you are forced to use them when dusting or using the sofa brush.
It was like the difference between using the old light weight wands from Hoover
Dusitng tools or Electrolux G compared to Filter Queen wands that were heavy chrome and cumberson to assemble. You expect them to be heavy on the Filter Queen but not on the light weight Miele.
The advanatage of better suction with the new wands makes no sense to me as my new Miele already has too much suction to be useful at the highest setting. It causes the power nozzle to stick along with the straight suction tool and dusting brush with it's short bristles.
I think there is a YouTube someone posted about the new Aerus machine having too much suction and it is not adjustable to make some cleaning jobs difficult.

Post# 185818 , Reply# 41   6/16/2012 at 09:14 (2,853 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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The Stainles wands are1 lb, 14 oz, or 860 g, they are heavy. Kitchen scale, very handy.

Post# 185831 , Reply# 42   6/16/2012 at 11:43 (2,853 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Unlike Sebo's canisters though, don't all Miele vacs have the air outlet slider at the top of the handle? Surely with that adjusted on the highest suction, it would make a difference? Is the highest power always required? I don't find that with my own Miele vacs.

Post# 185840 , Reply# 43   6/16/2012 at 14:29 (2,853 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
I tried a Miele today

My Miele has 6 adjustments for suction levels. I have been ussing it on the 4th setting. It works so much better with the new wands.
The problem for me was that the Miele dealers had the demo machines set up with the gray wands and when I saw the stainless in the box I did not realize they would be that much bulkier to use. If the stainless had been on the demo machine,I would have not bought the Miele. It could also be just the density and style of my carpets although I did not like the stainless wands for other jobs.

Post# 186062 , Reply# 44   6/18/2012 at 11:15 (2,851 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Ty for the weight - oh well I shan't be ordering these any time soon!

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