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Thread Number: 17103
Which were the first and last Henry Dreyfuss Hoovers? |
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| Post# 183293 5/30/2012 at 16:00 (4,347 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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| Post# 183309 , Reply# 2 5/30/2012 at 18:42 (4,346 days old) by hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place) | ||
Dreyfuss | ||
| Post# 183324 , Reply# 4 5/30/2012 at 22:52 (4,346 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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Hoover 150 | ||
Post# 183325 , Reply# 5 5/30/2012 at 22:59 (4,346 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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It was a wonderful cleaner. | ||
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Post# 183336 , Reply# 7 5/31/2012 at 00:14 (4,346 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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John, if there are any, | ||
| Post# 183346 , Reply# 9 5/31/2012 at 01:15 (4,346 days old) by dickiec () | ||
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Sorry Oct 5th.. Slip of the finger.. | ||
| Post# 183364 , Reply# 10 5/31/2012 at 04:37 (4,346 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London) | ||
1st Dreyfuss
Deryfuss definatly worked on the 825 in 1934, there is a patent dated December 18th 1934 with his signature on it - follow the link and scroll halfway down the page. The 150 is also noted as being 1935
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| Post# 183375 , Reply# 11 5/31/2012 at 07:20 (4,346 days old) by hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place) | ||
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Dreyfuss | ||
| Post# 183378 , Reply# 12 5/31/2012 at 07:24 (4,346 days old) by hooverboy81 (Myrtle Place) | ||
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| Post# 183411 , Reply# 13 5/31/2012 at 12:50 (4,346 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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I don't think there would be much argument against stating that the Hoover 150 was probably Dreyfuss' most new and sensational design.
Somehow, I get this "feeling" that Dreyfuss may have been involved with some minor Hoover embellishments as early as the mid 1920's. For instance, consider the DPI orange bag logos and motor cover bands dating back to 1926 with the advent of the model 700. Please feel free to correct me, if my thoughts are wrong, as some valid citations will be noted and most appreciated. Thanks in advance. | ||
| Post# 183413 , Reply# 14 5/31/2012 at 13:31 (4,346 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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Hoover 700 and 725 orange bag logos | ||
| Post# 183414 , Reply# 15 5/31/2012 at 13:34 (4,346 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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Hoover 700 and 725 orange bag logos | ||
| Post# 183421 , Reply# 16 5/31/2012 at 14:07 (4,346 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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More orange... | ||
| Post# 183428 , Reply# 17 5/31/2012 at 14:36 (4,346 days old) by Brandon_W_T () | ||
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The same script was used on the 575s bag. But it was white. 
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| Post# 183429 , Reply# 18 5/31/2012 at 14:40 (4,346 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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Model 300
We know that Dreyfuss was instrumental in the design of the model 150. Would it not follow that he, at the same time, also designed the 150's less expensive coffee-can companion, the model 300 (shown with artful green motor band and bag logo)? Perhaps you can see where I am going with this supposition, dating back to the 1926 700 series orange bag logos and motor bands. We already know he was involved with the US 800 series about 1933. I am attempting to link Dreyfuss to 1926 and the 700 Super-Cleaner series.
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| Post# 183464 , Reply# 20 5/31/2012 at 22:09 (4,345 days old) by GUARDSMAN69 () | ||
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in frank hoovers book the fabulous dust pan .....dryfuss entered the hoover scene and was hired by the hoover family after these units were created....by other engineers | ||
| Post# 183572 , Reply# 21 6/1/2012 at 11:51 (4,345 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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So far, there is no proof that my supposition holds water, but Dreyfuss did design stage sets in his early days. I guess what I am curious about is whether he may have provided Hoover with some art work, on a limited basis in the earlier years, before being recognized and hired as a product designer.
This could be an interesting research project or simply point to the fact that I have too much time on my hands. Anyway, thanks for all the input and photos. I have learned some things as a result. In closing, I'm wondering if anyone here has read "Designing for People" autobiography, 1955, Henry Dreyfuss ? | ||
| Post# 183578 , Reply# 22 6/1/2012 at 13:07 (4,345 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR) | ||
 Bernie -
The vacuum with the orange band you are referring to is the Model 725, which debuted in approximately 1929.
You may want to work "backwards" by taking the design patent numbers from the bottom of the earlier models you are curious about (they start with a D) and see if Dreyfuss' name is connected with any of them on the original patent.
I have a 1935 ad that clearly shows that the Model 825 was marked as a "Dreyfuss-designed Hoover". The ad is dated March 16, 1935. Interestingly, this model is nicknamed "Sentinel 35", denoting it as part of the Sentinel Series Hoovers. This is the first ad in which Henry Dreyfuss' name is mentioned that I could find. His name is not mentioned on the Model 300 ads, though that alone may not mean anything. As previously mentioned, the Model 150 had probably been on his drawing board for several years before its early 1936 debut.
Good luck.
John Lucia | ||
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Post# 183580 , Reply# 23 6/1/2012 at 13:14 (4,345 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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When we were in North Canton in 2008, | ||
| Post# 183608 , Reply# 24 6/1/2012 at 14:20 (4,345 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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"Designing for People" | ||
| Post# 183609 , Reply# 25 6/1/2012 at 14:22 (4,345 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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Thanks John | ||
| Post# 183821 , Reply# 27 6/2/2012 at 11:21 (4,344 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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Jim...
I believe as well that Dreyfuss designed for Hoover long before the introduction of the 825. I heard it, I read it somewhere but can't remember because it was several years ago. The artistic bag logos on the early models were obviously the works of some good artist - why not neighbor and Saturday night dinner guest, Dreyfuss? Based the patent drawing, the theory that the model 300 was a Dreyfuss design could be true. He designed the 150. The 300 was introduced in the same year as the 150 as its less-expensive companion.
Born in 1904, Dreyfuss would have been 19 years old when the Hoover model 541 was introduced in 1923. | ||
| Post# 183944 , Reply# 29 6/2/2012 at 16:00 (4,344 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA) | ||
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Jim... | ||
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