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| Post# 181041 5/14/2012 at 18:04 (4,357 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
I was wondering about this earlier. It seems to me that uprights are very popular these days. Almost everyone I know with the exception of a few people has an upright, and often when I go to estate sales I see uprights.
This could be a regional thing, but I think it has more to do with convenience. When I was a kid, my mother did most of the cleaning with a vacuum, but I know a lot of people don't and aren't so picky about the housecleaning. Many people vacuum only the carpet and sweep the hard floors and dust furniture once in a while with a wet cloth. I can see how uprights can be more convenient in that scenario as there are less parts to deal with and move around and they store more easily, but I prefer a canister. I have both canisters and uprights, but when I want to do a thorough cleaning and do it quickly, I go for a canister. Another reason I can see for uprights' popularity is that they are more common in the stores and they are typically much cheaper than canisters that have a powered brushroll. Kmart and Sears are the only stores in my area that sell many canisters. Walmart has none, unless you count the Shark lift-off style vacuum. Of course I realize too that people have their own preferences on machines, and that's fine too, but it just seems that most people in general who aren't collectors have uprights these days, and I wonder if that is something that's been true for many years. | ||
| Post# 181047 , Reply# 1 5/14/2012 at 18:37 (4,357 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia) | ||
Interesting..
I think you will find its manufacturer driven. In Australia, in the early 90's uprights dried up here and it has become a canister saturated market. The main manufacturers here that still retail uprights are:
Miele Vax Dyson Kirby Bissell Most of the manufacturers other than the above either only make 1-2 models (including Hoover) and even then, hide them in the back of the range. When I worked for the main retailer of cleaning appliances we had only 5 domestic uprights and in excess of 30 domestic canisters! I think that Dyson and Vax would be the only ones who actually make a dent in the market with uprights, i know where I work now - 50% or more of my customers leave with a DC41 or DC33 in hand :) It's all very disappointing because power brushes aren't all that common here and as such most machines are straight suction and we all know how good that is for carpets. To get a power-brush machine here you are looking at the Vax zen $599, Dyson DC23 motorhead $898, Miele $1099, Sauber (lux) $1499 so you can see that they are not in most peoples pricing range. | ||
| Post# 181122 , Reply# 2 5/15/2012 at 09:48 (4,356 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
In Europe it differs from country to country. Some countries prefer canisters only to uprights. The UK seems to have a split share but we're only beginning to get other brands now with PN heads on canisters. Wertheim only came here last year (or may have been the year before) with their PN canister. Miele and SEBO have dominated the market here for canisters with PN's but they're not a big seller compared to the uprights.
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| Post# 181129 , Reply# 3 5/15/2012 at 09:59 (4,356 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
 This is so funny I was just thinking about this today aswell. In the end it comes down to user preference and allot to do with what your mom used when you grew up to according to research,
I for one prefer an upright due to its better cleaning of carpets over a standard cylinder vacuum. If you fit a PN to a cylinder you get the same performance but for me I can not figure out why you would want to fit a great big heavy PN to the end of a heavy hose( with power cables in it ) and then still drag the machine around behind you when you could simply use an upright. This is my personal view though and I am not knocking any cylinder with a PN I just don't understand it, Not these fays in any case when most uprights have on board hoses anyway.
Just My view on an interesting Topic | ||
| Post# 181151 , Reply# 4 5/15/2012 at 11:05 (4,356 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
I can't speak for everyone (if I did sebo_fan would have a field day) but here is why I prefer uprights:
- Everything is on the cleaner (hose, tubes, nozzles etc...) - Most of them glide over carpets easier than "scrubbing" with a straight suction cylinder's floor nozzle - Wider cleaning head in most cases, thus quicker cleaning - The bags can be more than double the size, likewise for Bagless bins - Brush rolls beat the carpet opposed to a cylinder's straight suction nozzle just scrubbing it, as aforementioned - These days uprights tend to have lower wattage motors compared to cylinders, completely paradoxical to what you'd think but oh well... | ||
| Post# 181155 , Reply# 5 5/15/2012 at 11:12 (4,356 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 181248 , Reply# 6 5/15/2012 at 19:12 (4,356 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
In the 70's and 80's I always had a ......
Upright for carpet and a straight suction canister for hard surface floors and above floor cleaning. I would always us the canister first and then put it away and then finish with the upright.
Now things seem to have changed for me. I seem to only use the uprights for a quick pick up in between thorough cleanings. For a thorough cleaning I seem to pick a canister. Partly due to the style condo I have. Vaulted ceilings with different heights of ledges that collect dirt and Ceiling fans that are very hard to reach. I can use a Sebo extension hose or a Miele 10 ft non electric hose. Either one of these canisters can be sat on the couch or bed to reach the ceiling fans while I am on a ladder. My rainbow hose can do the same thing. Now a days I have almost as much hard surface as carpet and a canister seems a better fit.... I do think what you grew up with has an influence on what you choose as well. My mom had an Electro Hygiene canister in the late 50's and most of the 60's. It was a work horse. It was my job to empty and shake out the bag when it was full. I did also run it for mom sometimes. When mom and dad built their first house they gave the Electro Hygiene to my aunt and bought a Westinghouse Canister. Absolutely the worst vacuum we ever had. Terribly hard bag changes, even for me.... I don't much care for an upright with a hose and attachments as I always felt they compromised the cleaning power of the upright by adding on a onboard hose and tools. WITH the exception of the Felix Sebo Upright. I absolutely love this vacuum......and I can actually use the extension hose of the sebo and leave the upright on the floor and still clean my high ceiling fans and ledges. Bud Mattingly PR-21 | ||
| Post# 181291 , Reply# 7 5/16/2012 at 05:26 (4,355 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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I think that canisters with a Pn made more sense in the 70"s and before when uprights didn't have built in hoses. If you wanted to clean your house easily under furniture with out having to go and fetch the hose and attachments then it made scense to get a canister with a pn, back then they also had more suction for above the floor cleaning too | ||
| Post# 181293 , Reply# 8 5/16/2012 at 05:39 (4,355 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181295 , Reply# 9 5/16/2012 at 05:41 (4,355 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well, in the UK 1970's homes had all the rage of wall to wall thick carpeting. It was a trend that everyone wanted to feel the luxury of pile between their toes. I go by the experience here of the Observer & Ideal Home magazines my father hoarded that show off homes with carpets. But I can also remember a lot of my friends homes had those fangled carpet tiles that can be individually taken off and washed down.
gsheen - a lot of people go by what their mum/parents used. In that sense as far back as I can remember, my parents and grandparents had Hoover uprights. But, it wasn't until last year I was going through the loft putting new insulation down with a builder that I came across a butterfly upholstery tool from an original Electrolux canister and eventually the material covered hose that must have come from the "brown" Electrolux my mother recalls she had when she got married. Of course I was too young to remember or possibly wasn't around by then. I wasn't fan of canisters until later on in life, so in a way it is probably true that whatever your parents used - that you yourself can remember - you end up using yourself in later life. It's a pity the hose had deteriorated so much though - it would have been a fine article to sell on EBay. I did keep the tool though! | ||
| Post# 181385 , Reply# 10 5/16/2012 at 18:13 (4,355 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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I think too that canisters are popular in other countries, is because hard floors are more common. Here in the US, homes often have lots of carpet, so you either need a PN canister or an upright, and uprights are typically cheaper.
Although most uprights now have on board tools, I don't use the ones on my upright usually. For one thing, they are nearly impossible to use. When you stretch the hose too far, it springs back, and will cause the vacuum to fall over. Also, it is much easier for me to do above floor cleaning with a canister, as with most uprights, I have to push it around by the handle while I hold the hose in the other hand. The older uprights with bottom tool conversion such as Eurekas and Hoover Convertibles and Concept Ones actually allowed you to pull the vacuum behind you which was much easier, almost as convenient as a canister. The uprights with built in hoses, this can't be done with. The other reason I prefer canisters is they are easier for me to get under and around furniture with, such as reaching under the couch or tables. My canisters are also much quieter than most uprights I have seen. I think in a lot of cases people that use uprights don't use the attachments that much, and same with canisters. I see a lot of used canisters that the attachments all look brand new. I guess few people actually do any dusting with their vacuums, but some people's homes seem to never get very dusty either. | ||
| Post# 181404 , Reply# 12 5/16/2012 at 21:15 (4,355 days old) by Trebor () | ||
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Stretch hoses on an upright are intended to be used... with one hand on the cleaner handle at all times, and for quick spot pick-ups. Just not practical for thorough cleaning of upholstery or wide expanses of wall. | ||
| Post# 181426 , Reply# 13 5/17/2012 at 00:32 (4,355 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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I know what you mean about the Panasonic hitting her when using the stretch hose, as I had that happen to me recently with my Turbopower 1000.
I was vacuuming the settee when all of a sudden the damn thing toppled over on top of me, all five tonnes. HOOVER didn't make it lightweight that's for sure. To say I initially felt like throwing it out of the top floor window was a damn right understatement. Now I always keep my left hand on the carry handle to ensure something like that never reoccurs. | ||
| Post# 181455 , Reply# 15 5/17/2012 at 04:07 (4,355 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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I find they slaken up after a while, however I do have a dc29db that I use for my above the floor cleaning once a week , but for everyday vacuuming I find you cannot beat a upright with a built in hose. I have allot of animals and two sons so everyday vacuuming even around the edges is a must for us.
One of the reasons I like my dysons so much is that the pipe is built into the hose so It makes cleaning faster than having to attach a pipe aswell. It may sound trivial but when you have a son who is semi autistic and adhd and another son who is just naughty like his dad , cleaning is a time limited necessity that needs to be made as easy as possible | ||
| Post# 181461 , Reply# 17 5/17/2012 at 05:08 (4,354 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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My wife and I also run a business together, a vacuum shop and I have a business with my Dad , a cleaning company, and I am a consultant engineer to a vacuum company here in SA, so we are pretty busy and Josh my eldest who has severe asperges and is severely adhd, odd can be a handful, hence I work from home. we don't have a cleaning lady at all we do it ourselves so it can be "fun" yep its trivial but I like a clean house so I live with it. I just find the best tools to do the job and use those it makes it allot easier | ||
| Post# 181527 , Reply# 19 5/17/2012 at 15:14 (4,354 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181542 , Reply# 21 5/17/2012 at 15:50 (4,354 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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Hey Benny
I have nothing against having a cleaning lady, I personally like to do it myself as I am a little ocd and like things in a certain way, I hate the picking things up and with my two sons oh boy there is alot of that to do. I have been using a dc40 for the past few months and let me tell you that thing can handle lego like no other vac, Thats why I prefer bag-less as well it easier to retrieve lego from it and toy soldiers and more lego , Unfortunately this has shown my two geniuses something, after been told to clean up the lego spread all over the play area floor i heard the vacuum go on and thought wow they are even vacuuming . NO NOT MY TWO MONSTERS, they took my dyson dc29db and vacuum'd up all the lego, " but Daddy its faster this way and we just pour it into the container " | ||
| Post# 181548 , Reply# 22 5/17/2012 at 16:07 (4,354 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181553 , Reply# 24 5/17/2012 at 16:25 (4,354 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Maybe you did say before and I've forgotten, my memory isn't so good.
That's good you're getting help with the things you can't do and are doing what you can. I get the sense you worked hard and are now enjoying your retirement, if that is so, then you deserve it. But don't enjoy it too much, you still need to contribute on here! Ha ha. | ||
| Post# 181562 , Reply# 26 5/17/2012 at 16:53 (4,354 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181564 , Reply# 27 5/17/2012 at 16:54 (4,354 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I would if I were you. I don't think you were being serious. | ||
| Post# 181565 , Reply# 28 5/17/2012 at 16:55 (4,354 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181566 , Reply# 29 5/17/2012 at 16:56 (4,354 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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About your new job. | ||
| Post# 181567 , Reply# 30 5/17/2012 at 16:58 (4,354 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181581 , Reply# 31 5/17/2012 at 17:57 (4,354 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
When I was young I always thought that uprights were "Old Lady" vacuum's and canisters were for younger people. But this was back in the 80's and that was what I saw in older peoples houses. Now a days it's mostly uprights. I think that most people are going for uprights because they tend to be less expensive as opposed to canisters. Money being as tight as it is these days people are more likely to go with the less expensive.
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| Post# 182992 , Reply# 33 5/28/2012 at 18:41 (4,343 days old) by anthony (leeds uk) | ||
Uprights with hoses and tools on board are just a nuisance if your vacuuming a carpet why would you want to drag all that crap about with you lets face it the tools on a modern upright are little more than useless anyway . Although i love hoover uprights i really think Electrolux had the best idea with the 502 series no adaptors or pans simply plug in the hose and away you go . When my mum got her first hoover junior she decided to fit the hose and hoover the stairs after one stair the tools were removed thrown into the cupboard under the stairs never to see daylight again till many years later when i found them the stairs and the car continued to be cleaned with the old Electrolux z62 the juniors predecesor
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| Post# 183033 , Reply# 35 5/29/2012 at 07:08 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Very true Benny, a lot of people like to do a bit of this and a bit of that. If you tried that way of thinking with a Lux 500 Series for example you'd be forever connecting and disconnecting the hose.
With a permanently fitted hose it is easy to do a bit of dusting, carpet, a bit of the skirting boards, carpet, vacuum the settee, more carpet etc... Whether I prefer that to having a separate hose and doing all the aforementioned in one go before, or after doing the carpets, I'm not sure either... One thing I am sure about however, is that having a hose there when you may need it without having to go and fetch it then connect it for just a small bit of dust or dirt, is very convenient. Just my Two Pence... | ||
| Post# 183058 , Reply# 37 5/29/2012 at 10:20 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Yes, I whole heartedly agree that a stretch hose isn't best suited to thorough above floor cleaning, while a long plastic hose IS.
A stretch hose can be used for thorough cleaning, don't misunderstand me, but it is a little more inconvenient due to the fact it keeps wanting to escape your grasp when you pull it close to it's stretch limitations. | ||
| Post# 183061 , Reply# 38 5/29/2012 at 10:53 (4,342 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Mmm... I don't know... I think some models that have two part hoses that can offer extra stretch are good for above the floor cleaning. Whatever the hose offers in terms of stretch, I find that I have to either keep a hand on the machine or just a watchful eye. This is more apparent with vacuums like the Sebo or Miele S7, where the stretch hose is long enough but the machine has to be placed against an obstacle to stop it from falling over. Even with Miele's S7 hose mount at the back that pivots the hose down to stop the machine falling over, it has happened to me.
This is where a cylinder vacuum with a longer hose is better, just keeping an eye/hand on the longer hose. For stair cleaning I much prefer using a cylinder vac and even the cheapey supermarket bagged vacuums are purposeful for this - especially ones that are smaller and easier to carry per step or stretch from a landing. | ||
| Post# 183098 , Reply# 40 5/29/2012 at 14:37 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Talking about the steam generator, my mother runs an ironing service and she uses a Morphy Richards Jet Stream iron for that, which has been getting steamy for 3 years now without fault.
It'll need a new filter soon but apart from that I expect it to run for many more years maintenance free. I don't iron myself, in my opinion the creases come out with your body heat when the clothes are worn. Of course if I require formal attire I will iron using my seldom used cordless unbranded iron which works OK I suppose, nothing like the power of the Jet Stream though. | ||
| Post# 183126 , Reply# 42 5/29/2012 at 15:36 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183136 , Reply# 44 5/29/2012 at 15:47 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183141 , Reply# 46 5/29/2012 at 15:52 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183147 , Reply# 49 5/29/2012 at 15:59 (4,342 days old) by anthony (leeds uk) | ||
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uprights with on board tools
it seems to me we buy uprights with on board tools because you would be hard pushed to find one without i am sure if hoover started knocking out a modern junior or senior[no tool kit ] they would fly off the shelves most of my friends and family hate the onboard tools and would love a simple vacuum without the accesories then again the modern upright has its place in the home alongside the other fashion items giant fridge and the huge cooker that rarely gets used to its capacity and of course in the living room you will find the obligotry plasma telly on the wall above the fake electric fire sorry my spelling is terrible
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| Post# 183149 , Reply# 50 5/29/2012 at 16:00 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183152 , Reply# 51 5/29/2012 at 16:02 (4,342 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183197 , Reply# 52 5/29/2012 at 19:05 (4,342 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Well.. talking of dirty fan uprights, one that was released a few years ago and managed to achieve good sales is the Hometek Light n Easy. I had two of them and, well the noise put me off more than anything but I liked the keen cheap price, given that despite the lack of filtration compared to Oreck, the Hometek was nothing more than a very similar update, albeit with a pretty nasty brush roll and a head light as standard. I put one in my family holiday home to use on the carpets and my Sebo Dart came home with me! You could say, without the necessary "Hoover" badge, the "Hometek" is the closest thing you'll likely to find if you are looking for a soft bagged upright vacuum with a dirty fan, next to the premium Oreck.
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| Post# 183245 , Reply# 53 5/30/2012 at 02:52 (4,342 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I used to stock those. Horrible things. But the people who bought them seemed to like them. | ||
| Post# 183303 , Reply# 54 5/30/2012 at 17:13 (4,341 days old) by anthony (leeds uk) | ||
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the light and easy vac
i work with the elderly and they seem to like this machine but the noise is terrible i mentioned this to one of my ladies she said oh yes its noisy but i just turn my hearing aid off and its fine i had to laugh but seriously they are terrible machines and cant be compared to a junior or senior what i meant was if hoover started making those machines again they would fly off the shelves because they did exactly what they were designed to do and very well at that also at a price that everyone could afford and lets face it the design was simple and easy to repair loads of my old ladies often say to me[ when they find out i like vacs ]i wish i still had my Hoover junior i had it 40 years and all it ever needed was a new belt now and again and then they bring out there present vacuum the usual dyson or somthing similar and say i dont use it because its to heavy . You see a lot of those retro looking fridges around and lots of small kichen apps that are of a retro design well how about a retro vacuum cleaner and who better to make it its got to be hoover reproducing one of its iconic machines
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| Post# 183341 , Reply# 56 5/31/2012 at 00:38 (4,341 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183342 , Reply# 57 5/31/2012 at 00:40 (4,341 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Post# 183343 , Reply# 58 5/31/2012 at 00:43 (4,341 days old) by gottahaveahoove  (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640) |
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especially something like, um, a  | ||
| Post# 183349 , Reply# 59 5/31/2012 at 02:07 (4,341 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183358 , Reply# 60 5/31/2012 at 03:12 (4,341 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Those Rangers were very good cleaners. Does anyone have one? smiles. | ||
| Post# 183360 , Reply# 61 5/31/2012 at 03:32 (4,341 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183361 , Reply# 62 5/31/2012 at 03:39 (4,341 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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No? We're in luck then. | ||
| Post# 183362 , Reply# 63 5/31/2012 at 03:42 (4,341 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 183368 , Reply# 64 5/31/2012 at 05:40 (4,340 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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ranger who has one | ||
| Post# 183370 , Reply# 65 5/31/2012 at 06:17 (4,340 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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VR - Good points and well thought out!
Sadly the Ranger was the one model that took me a few years to "forgive." The baby sitter used to chase me around the house with my parents Hoover Ranger. It took me a few years to even touch the Hoover, well before I ever got into collecting vacuums. You could say that I was very much emotionally disturbed by the mere sight of a Ranger and learnt to live with it past the age of 10, eventually!
Thing is though, Anthony - as much as the Hometek is hellish, it can still be compared easily to the Junior at best - it is cheap to buy, cheap to maintain and relatively easy to use. The whole design principle that it brings to the table is that its an upright vacuum only with no tools on offer - and lets face it - by the time the Junior U1104 came out of production, not many bought the tool kit knowingly because of the lack of power.
Hoover UK did try and pull a fast one with their continental "Athyss" stick vac by renaming it "Junior" a few years back. I had two of them, both the red stick vac and the black one. They didn't last, both suffering from seemingly poor hinges at the top of the handle where it is supposed to fold over to make for space. It did the job well, but it was cumbersome and the red model's lack of variable suction made it hard to push. That and the hopelessly small 1.5 litre dust bag made it appear as a total non-relation to the Junior upright proper.
Infact, thinking about Hoover UK in general and the tat that they sell these days, I think customers in the UK have been burnt for far too long from the products from this company. I don't think Hoover will ever recover unless they separate from Candy and go with a different company, but even at that, they would have to produce a higher amount of quality and precision into floor care products. I think the damage has already been done - Hoover were good once upon a time but not any longer, sadly. | ||
| Post# 183418 , Reply# 67 5/31/2012 at 13:50 (4,340 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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What the market would have been like without Dyson... Well, I think someone would have done a bagless upright before long - when you look at Black and Decker with their dust buster - the original cordless idea with a filter to catch the dust, or early Hoover tub vacuums that could be used without a bag - certainly a "bag-less" vacuum was around in the late 1970's and look at Hoover's Powerplus with the dust box at the bottom.
Brands were evidently thinking of offering the bag-less idea along the line, maybe the next step up from shake out permanent bags. I think the idea of going bag-less was certainly catching on without Dyson promoting the cyclone idea. I know the Goblin Laser could be used without a bag for example - but I have a feeling it was out on the market just before Dyson's DC01 in 1993, though timeline info on the Laser seems to be 1995, two years after Dyson came to the UK with the DC01. | ||
| Post# 183516 , Reply# 69 6/1/2012 at 05:33 (4,339 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Hi VR - yep, I refer to Hitachi - but I also refer to other brands, not Hoover of course, but others who did the fabric bag idea or a central filter where dust could cling onto and then require to be brushed clean and I take your point that companies knew of Dyson beforehand when he approached them with the design. But well before Dyson had started releasing the idea of making a vacuum cleaner, even hand held vacuums, cue Dirt Devil's Handy vac could be used without a bag. Again, although not an upright vacuum, the idea to go "bag-less" or without having to continually replace bags was already being used in other vacuum cleaner applications.
To be honest though I think Dyson had a winning formula from the start with the Dual Cyclone idea. The whole justification behind the vacuum initially was that it didn't need a bag and the bag didn't have to be continually replaced. Dyson didn't bring a new design to the hose or cleaning tools than any other brand, just something that looked different. If you had a patent that could change the way things were done, wouldn't you want to take advantage of promoting the design through something that looked unique and appealing? Certainly when it comes to versatile use with its large hinge and cumbersome tools on board plus the hose, the DC01 isn't as good as other vacuums that have a simpler arrangement but it was a machine I quite liked just for not having to buy bags AND in my hands, my DC01 only began to suffer from poor suction when the filters needed to be replaced. So, yes whilst the vacuums aren't the best practical designed or as versatile, its the early indicators of success that the "no loss of suction" claim and the lack of having to buy bags for it that made it good from a seller's point of view AND largely in the hands of owners.
It is easy now, so many years later to see that in some ways Dyson may have slipped from the quality, or the "no-loss" principle can be questioned, proved false - whatever - but back in the early days, the DC01 was better than most and with it having no direct rival, a unique machine on the market because of its patents. | ||
| Post# 183699 , Reply# 70 6/1/2012 at 20:27 (4,339 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA) | ||
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I believe there was a dual cyclone machine from James Dyson before the Dyson DC-01, known as the Cyclon. It was sold in small numbers in 1984 by a company called KleenEaze. I do agree the idea for a bagless machine had long been considered by then, as attested by machines using reuseable cloth bags.
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