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Post# 179129   4/29/2012 at 12:55 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Here is my henry that I got from my neighbour for FREE! she said to me I am gonna throw this down the tip so do you want it and I obviously said yes!
It is a 2006 numatic henry with the high low switch, the push button switch and the two side exhausts which I like a lot. I do have a 2008 henry with new exhaust and switch bank but I prefer this one becuause it looks like a normal traditional henry because of the older exhaust design. Any way here it is, I do also have the optional "airobrush".





Post# 179130 , Reply# 1   4/29/2012 at 12:56 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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The back

Post# 179131 , Reply# 2   4/29/2012 at 12:56 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Inside.

Post# 179132 , Reply# 3   4/29/2012 at 12:57 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Close up of him.

Post# 179133 , Reply# 4   4/29/2012 at 12:59 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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I love the white writing on the black motor unit as apose to the old style red writing or which ever writing to match the base.

Post# 179134 , Reply# 5   4/29/2012 at 13:00 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Serial number.

Post# 179146 , Reply# 6   4/29/2012 at 13:47 (2,894 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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That's really nice find! Is it actually manufactured in England?

Post# 179147 , Reply# 7   4/29/2012 at 13:51 (2,894 days old) by mieles7 (DFW, TX)        

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I always wanted a Henry. Too bad they aren't nearly as popular over here. What price point are they sold at?

Post# 179150 , Reply# 8   4/29/2012 at 13:59 (2,894 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Sure is.

My 2007 Henry is different from yours, despite being a year newer.

It has the rocker switches, the one exhaust port and dull metal pipes instead of the stainless steel ones you have.

I wonder why ?


Post# 179155 , Reply# 9   4/29/2012 at 14:07 (2,894 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Here in the UK they are around £100 to buy new, which is $160 in your currency.

If you have the James version of the Numatic cleaner that should be cheaper.


Post# 179157 , Reply# 10   4/29/2012 at 14:12 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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Yupp they sure are produced in England, in somerset, chard

Post# 179158 , Reply# 11   4/29/2012 at 14:22 (2,894 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Jmurray, Because like everything, Numatic cleaners have been subjected to on-going changes, in the hope it will better the product.

Around 2003, a foot switch was introduced, presumably as it had been seen as inconvenient to try and find the rocker switch in the side of the cleaner, and operate it by hand.

Around 2004, Numatic decided to add a 2-speed motor. There may have been a reason behind it, such as a heading towards the eco-friendly idea, or it could be that it was done because they felt it was what the consumer wanted. I think there is a good chance it may all have been done following customer feedback.

However the foot operated switch was highly problematic as the quality of the switch was poor. The contacts would often burn out, or the locking mechanism would fail. I am not surprised as the same switch was used by other manufacturers and many suffered the same fate if used as a foot switch. They were ok as hand switches but seemed unable to cope with the hefty pressure of a foot. Now as well as this, there is one more point to add. Like a good deal of vacuum cleaners in the past, and probably some today, such was the design of the foot switch button, it was easily caught by the hose when in use, which switched the machine off. The same could happen if the cleaner fell over. This was annoying at best, and at worst put added wear upon the switch.

I don't know much about the mentality of the Numatic company, but they do seem to try and change things for the better, whilst admitting when they got it wrong and changed it back. Hence the two top mounted rocker switches we have seen in recent years. Having tried a foot switch, and having been unable to make it work successfully, they've done the next best thing and made a cleaner with the tried & trusted rocker switches, but fitted them as high up the cleaner as possible, to avoid as much bending down as possible.

There is a fine line between making something a consumer wants, and deciding whether or not they would buy the product regardless. This may have been what was behind the Numatic changes, because whilst I am sure the foot switch was liked by all users, the fact that it no longer has one is probably not going to put anyone off buying a cleaner.

As for the metal tubes, there have been some changes recently, as the design of the suction regulator has changed too. I don't know if Numatic make their own tubes or buy them in. There could be many reasons for changes.


Post# 179179 , Reply# 12   4/29/2012 at 15:02 (2,894 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I don't see why they would change the suction regulation valve, as I have never had a problem with the twist valve, and can't see why anybody else would...

Oh well, if they think it is better then that's up to them.

As for the tubes, I may buy some stainless steel ones at some point, as those dull metal ones are tough as old boots, but are getting rusty and are scratched to high Heaven.

More pressingly though, the floor tool requires replacement, as it has worn out to the point where I have to go over one patch of flooring numerous times to clear the dirt.


Post# 179183 , Reply# 13   4/29/2012 at 15:07 (2,894 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

If they are rusty, it sounds like they are the painted aluminium type. I didn't mean to suggest the suction regulator had been changed as a matter of improvement, sorry, I mean it has been changed for no reason as I see it. I suspect that Numatic has switched supplier of its metal tubes, but I don't know this, or know if they make them in-house.

Post# 179187 , Reply# 14   4/29/2012 at 15:10 (2,894 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Yeah aluminium is what they are, tough, but not pretty.

Post# 179193 , Reply# 15   4/29/2012 at 15:19 (2,894 days old) by mieles7 (DFW, TX)        

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Over here, the cheapest you can get an american made vacuum is $200.

Post# 179206 , Reply# 16   4/29/2012 at 15:32 (2,894 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Ah well, looks like we're lucky if we want British made Vacuums here in the UK.

Post# 179210 , Reply# 17   4/29/2012 at 15:38 (2,894 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Very Nice 


Post# 179228 , Reply# 18   4/29/2012 at 16:31 (2,894 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        
Hi

Hey Alex, Tayyab here, just wonderin, why was ur neighbour scrapping the Henry? :P

Post# 179251 , Reply# 19   4/29/2012 at 17:27 (2,894 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Ah well, looks like we're lucky if we want British made

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Jamie, Numatic are the only vacuum cleaners still made in the UK. They're also the best seller in this country. It's rare not to see some form of Numatic cleaner being used in shops, offices, hotels and garages. They're so reliable and do such a good job. The more basic, the better.

Post# 179256 , Reply# 20   4/29/2012 at 17:35 (2,894 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        

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hi tayyab, she was getting shut of the henry because she bought a new dc14, god help her! So she said it is either going to the tip or you can have it which I obviously said yes!

Post# 179269 , Reply# 21   4/29/2012 at 19:07 (2,894 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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eurekastar - Numatic Henry models have gone to the U.S recently. They were on the go-vacuum.com site on you tube.

The aluminium pipes are actually from James machines and the open tops. I prefer them because they're lighter than the stainless steel - and I've used stainless steel tubes on Henry vacs that are sometimes rusty on the inside from picking up soggy dirt.


Post# 179332 , Reply# 22   4/30/2012 at 05:20 (2,893 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"Jamie, Numatic are the only vacuum cleaners still made in the UK. They're also the best seller in this country. It's rare not to see some form of Numatic cleaner being used in shops, offices, hotels and garages. They're so reliable and do such a good job. The more basic, the better." Hear hear! Every shop I go into in my area always has a Numatic Henry, or the plain industrial Numatic somewhere primed and ready to suck up anything you point it at.

The main reason shops and the like prefer Numatics to other brands is because the tub style and the big round sealed filter means they can be used bagless to save on costs for parsimonious owners!

Personally though my Henry will never see use without a bag.


Post# 179377 , Reply# 23   4/30/2012 at 12:20 (2,893 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
My cousin in Ireland, County Meath

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has one and enjoys it a lot.

Post# 179403 , Reply# 24   4/30/2012 at 15:22 (2,893 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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"The main reason shops and the like prefer Numatics to other brands is because the tub style and the big round sealed filter means they can be used bagless to save on costs for parsimonious owners!"

I don't think that's entirely true. I think the main reason they're so popular for commercial use is due to their reliability, high performance and easy of repairs. Literally anything on a Numatic machine can be replaced or repaired easily.


Post# 179406 , Reply# 25   4/30/2012 at 15:30 (2,893 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Having read that, I am not sure there are many cleaning companies who do their own repairs as so many came my way, but what they do do is mix & match old parts and new. The chances of seeing a commercially used Numatic with all the absolute correct parts is slim. Of course those used by domestic consumers do tend to stay in one piece.

Post# 179444 , Reply# 26   4/30/2012 at 16:58 (2,893 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Numatics used without a bag

I have seen and used commercial Numatic machines without a bag. They have a nylon fine filter and a red cloth main filter. Dust bags can be used of course, too.

Sometimes the paper bags just tear as they fill.


Post# 179453 , Reply# 27   4/30/2012 at 17:12 (2,893 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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That has been brought up before, but I've never had a paper bag in any of my Vacuum Cleaners (including Henry) burst, even when filled to bursting point (as I did with the Turbopower as an experiment to see when the Bag Full indicator would illuminate, as stated in a previous thread).

Post# 179536 , Reply# 28   5/1/2012 at 08:43 (2,892 days old) by henry200 ()        
A Henry for free.........congratulations!

After several trips to the UK over the years and seeing a Henry in action literally from the moment of stepping off the plane at Gatwick to every B&B, shop, cathedral and manor house, I was determined to have one, and now I have two. 


Post# 179537 , Reply# 29   5/1/2012 at 08:49 (2,892 days old) by henry200 ()        
The first Henry

is an HVR 200.  The 850 watt (120 volt) single speed gets the job done but is a little too powerful for some dusting tasks even with the relief valve open.  This Henry was fitted with an outlet for an electric powernozzle (which I did not purchase) 


Post# 179538 , Reply# 30   5/1/2012 at 08:55 (2,892 days old) by henry200 ()        
For Christmas

and to celebrate getting a new job, I gifted myself with a newer Henry HVR 200A.  Having the switch on top is much more convenient and I really like the soft-start motor.  The slower speed is still more than adequate for most tasks, and switching to the full 1200 watt level is a power trip!


Post# 179539 , Reply# 31   5/1/2012 at 09:12 (2,892 days old) by henry200 ()        

Some of the things I appreciate most are the aluminum wands which are strong but very lightweight, and the manual cordwinder which is brilliant in its simplicity.  The long cord permits vacuuming the entire main floor of the house from one central outlet.  Henry rolls around, following obediently behind me across rugs and floors, and over thresholds.  The dust-capturing ability of the hepa-flo bags is a tremendous bonus when my allergies are in a fuss.

 

And that grin......Henry is too cute to hide away in a cupboard between cleaning sessions!


Post# 179541 , Reply# 32   5/1/2012 at 10:06 (2,892 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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The turbo nozzle shown with this Henry is actually very, very good.

It is the exact same nozzle that came with the second generation Hoover Constellation (Maytag Satellite in the UK) created in the last decade (see link below). When tested by Consumer Reports, this new Constellation rated a "good" for carpet cleaning primarily due to the performance of this turbo nozzle. Not great for deep cleaning of thick carpeting but very effective for surface litter removal. Don't move the nozzle too fast over the rug - just let the spinning brush do it's thing and if the Henry gives it good airflow, the attachment will be wonderful!

These guys are so cute! Wonder why Numatic does not market the Henry in foreign countries using cute names from each country. France should get "Eduard", Israel could get "Aryeh", Russia could get "Alexei", US should get "Chuck"....etc. :-)



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Post# 179542 , Reply# 33   5/1/2012 at 10:09 (2,892 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
Just looked on GoVacuum.com

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They are a little more than $160. More in the $369-$549 range.

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Post# 179558 , Reply# 34   5/1/2012 at 11:51 (2,892 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Actually, the air driven turbo brush for Numatic machines has much stiffer bristles than the Satelite brush, even though they look the same

Post# 179572 , Reply# 35   5/1/2012 at 14:35 (2,892 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Tearing dustbags

Commercial/industrial dirt is heavier and grittier than the light fluffy dust that you find in your house.

Look at the dust that gathers at the kerb: it blows into shops, is carried in on folk's feet, and trekked into factories on the tyres of fork-lift trucks. Also concrete floors will shed particles too.

So paper bags will be subjected to a much harsher treatment than at home.


Post# 179575 , Reply# 36   5/1/2012 at 15:23 (2,892 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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"Wonder why Numatic does not market the Henry in foreign countries using cute names from each country. France should get "Eduard", Israel could get "Aryeh", Russia could get "Alexei", US should get "Chuck"....etc. :-)"

Traditionally, Numatic cleaners were all named after members of the royal family - James, Henry, Edward, Charles & George. This rule has since been broken with the introduction of Hetty, but I think for all the other cleaners, this rule has stayed.


Post# 179577 , Reply# 37   5/1/2012 at 15:28 (2,892 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

That makes sense about the Numatic names being connected to the Royal family. Though I guess Basil was the first exception, before Hetty?

Post# 179583 , Reply# 38   5/1/2012 at 15:43 (2,892 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Though I guess Basil was the first exception, before Hetty?

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Oh, I'd forgotten about him. I can't think of a royal named Basil, so they obviously have made exceptions before

Post# 179586 , Reply# 39   5/1/2012 at 15:50 (2,892 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I liked the Basil. I liked the way the tubes were colour co-ordinated to match the cleaner. I did stock them in their hey-day, but some of them had terrible floor tools. I have a memory that Numatic stopped making them for a while before the James as we know it now came along, but I could be wrong. The original James was a metal canister version of Henry, but that was a good while ago.

Post# 179591 , Reply# 40   5/1/2012 at 16:00 (2,892 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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I think there is just something about Henry that you can't help but love.

Am I the only one who talks to my Henry ?


Post# 179592 , Reply# 41   5/1/2012 at 16:02 (2,892 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

You might not be the only one, but I certainly don't...;)


Post# 179600 , Reply# 42   5/1/2012 at 16:20 (2,892 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Well I don't have a dog so Henry is my substitute!

Whenever I'm using "him" I find myself muttering "come along Henry" as I go.

It's a wonder I haven't been dragged off by the men in white coats really...


Post# 179601 , Reply# 43   5/1/2012 at 16:21 (2,892 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Am I the only one who talks to my Henry?

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Ya know, a few weeks ago, I was vacuuming my mattress down, and my housemate poked her head around my bedroom door and said "awwwww I prefer it when we use Henry 'cause I can talk to him and not feel stupid". Mad cow. She won't use a vacuum that doesn't have a face. Which generally means, she doesn't vacuum up and awful lot. If at all. I don't know who exactly the "we" is in her above comment as she has used a vacuum in well over a year

Post# 179603 , Reply# 44   5/1/2012 at 16:50 (2,892 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)        
I talk so henry........ sometimes lol!

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I always find my self doing that lol, if I see a lot of mess on the floor and I go, oh henry there is mess over here come and clean it up, lol I am stange, I think that is probably because of me seeing that henry advert where the woman is cleaninging the camera studio thing.


Post# 179604 , Reply# 45   5/1/2012 at 16:51 (2,892 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Rather you than me Chris!

Post# 179681 , Reply# 46   5/1/2012 at 23:42 (2,892 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
So others talk to my Henry?

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When ye are conversing, just ask him who is in his circle of friends. Sorry, I HAD to......

Post# 182509 , Reply# 47   5/25/2012 at 12:15 (2,868 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

This is my 1990 Henry with his optional TurboElectric powerhead, my great gran bought this for me brand new for my 3rd birthday and i've had him ever since, i'll never part with him. He's had a pretty hard life but i've always kept him well maintained. Still works perfectly!

Post# 182510 , Reply# 48   5/25/2012 at 12:19 (2,868 days old) by ryry_87 ()        
rear view..

love the sticker :)

Post# 182511 , Reply# 49   5/25/2012 at 12:22 (2,868 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

The very first Henry! picked this one as spares/repairs on ebay, just needed some new carbons

Post# 182512 , Reply# 50   5/25/2012 at 12:28 (2,868 days old) by ryry_87 ()        
Original james

This someone mentioned the original metal bodied James earlier? haven't got this one anymore sadly (wish i'd of kept it!) it was essentially a heavier and more robust Henry

Post# 182514 , Reply# 51   5/25/2012 at 13:25 (2,868 days old) by rutger (England)        

This stuff is superb !

For a Henry nut it's like porn ! (Ok well maybe not that good & I promise it's not having the same effect.. but it's good).

Is there anywhere a definitive list of all the model types & variations that Numatic have made?

Cheers
Dave


Post# 182515 , Reply# 52   5/25/2012 at 13:37 (2,868 days old) by ryry_87 ()        
More Numatic porn...

Not that i'm aware of Dave but hows this for rare, bottom right hand corner of the pic, is the first Numatic upright the NI1. They're almost non existent now. made by Truvox

Post# 182518 , Reply# 53   5/25/2012 at 13:57 (2,868 days old) by baglessball ()        

I've always wondered what Henry's powered head looked like! Any chance of a cheeky pic of its underneath? ;o)

Post# 182519 , Reply# 54   5/25/2012 at 14:00 (2,868 days old) by rutger (England)        

Numatic made an upright!
I really had no idea they'd ever done that, thanks very much for for the pic' & info'.


Post# 182521 , Reply# 55   5/25/2012 at 14:30 (2,868 days old) by ryry_87 ()        
bottom of the TurboElectric head

for baglessball…

Post# 182541 , Reply# 56   5/25/2012 at 18:07 (2,868 days old) by baglessball ()        

Thankyou!!

Does it perform well?

Well done on keeping it in such good shape after so many years!


Post# 182546 , Reply# 57   5/25/2012 at 19:46 (2,868 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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I think the reason that Numatic offered a 2 speed control was very much what consumers wanted, rather than having to put up with the air valve at the top of the handle, as VR has already pointed out.

Also don't forget Numatic also released the HEPA FLO synthetic dust bags, a much better preference to the paper dust bags that are liable to burst in use. I don't mind what anyone else thinks but Henry is no exception to Vax's canister vacuum and others - the science behind the dust running around in circles makes dust in paper bags PLUS the vacuum/suction tear paper bags. The newer HEPA FLO bags don't and they're a darn sight easier to fit than trying the rubberised seal on the paper dust bags to the black connector.


Post# 182581 , Reply# 58   5/26/2012 at 02:14 (2,867 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Very nice Henry-like the METAL floor shoe on the powernozzle.And the Red upright Henry is interesting.Looks heavy duty!Or is the upright a Numatic?

Post# 182587 , Reply# 59   5/26/2012 at 05:21 (2,867 days old) by ryry_87 ()        

Hi rex, the all-red Henry was the very first all plastic bodied Numatic and was offered as a cheaper alternative at the time to the NV250 commercial model which was all steel. It was originally a commercial model when it first came out but when Numatic entered the domestic market in about 1981, they made the top black to look like a hat and called it Henry. Thats where the Henry story began lol

The red upright in the brochure pic is a Numatic upright but was made by another company called Truvox.


Post# 182591 , Reply# 60   5/26/2012 at 07:37 (2,867 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

I've had many Numatic cleaners in the past but I sold them all. My favourite was the Henry Hound with the electric power head that was so quiet I thought it was faulty when I first switched it on. I am hankering for another Henry Hound or possibly the similar Henry Turbo.

I liked the Hound because you could use a standard non power hose with it which is lighter to use for the above floor jobs. I even had a 5 metre length hose which was great for the stairs and high up cleaning jobs.

I think the tools could be improved with a telescopic tube and a locking system similar to Miele and Sebo cylinders. I found that the standard tubes could be hard to separate sometimes.

I found out that Numatic are going to put a parking bracket on the back of the cleaner for the tube and the face is getting a revamp with a more 3D look. There will also be a cordless version of Henry for commercial use.

The Henry cleaner is very good value for money, is quiet and has a large capacity. The Hepa bags are a great improvement on the paper ones. Apart from the electric head version, they don't cope very well with pet hairs. The air powered turbo head is an improvement on the standard head, but I'm not keen on air powered heads due to the increased noise level associated with them. It's good that they are still made in the UK and hope they will continue to be as a made in China model would probably not have the longevity we have come to associate Henry with.


Post# 182598 , Reply# 61   5/26/2012 at 11:52 (2,867 days old) by rutger (England)        

A parking bracket on the back of a Henry is a good idea they've needed one for ages as currently storing them is a pain. I also agree concerning the tubes, they're ok but a bit basic & a telescopic set would again make storage easier & probably increase sales- the only reason my parents didn't buy a Henry was a Miele with its telescopic tubes was easier to store in their tiny bungalow.
The 3D looking face sounds interesting sensotronic , where did you hear about that, any more info'?
I too am glad Henry is still built in Britain, in a world where we now in Britain seem to make so little it's nice that we still at least make a decent vacuum cleaner.
Dave


Post# 182604 , Reply# 62   5/26/2012 at 12:45 (2,867 days old) by sensotronic (Englandshire)        

Dave,

I read about the new face etc by downloading the Numatic 2012 ISSA Interclean brochure.

The link is on Numatic's home page.


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Post# 182605 , Reply# 63   5/26/2012 at 13:03 (2,867 days old) by rutger (England)        

That's superb sensotronic, thanks for that.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend, I assume it's sunny where you are!
Dave


Post# 182609 , Reply# 64   5/26/2012 at 13:58 (2,867 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, instead of Henry's tubes, you could use Hoover Telios telescopic tubes et al (Vax, Electrolux etc) as I do with my Henry. I retain the bent angle part though at the top and use either twin Electrolux pipes (the ones with the plastic inserts at the tops as they are easier to take off) or another telescopic tube set I took off an old Electrolux Powerplus cylinder vac.

Post# 182624 , Reply# 65   5/26/2012 at 16:36 (2,867 days old) by rutger (England)        

Cool tip Sebo_fan.
Thanks


Post# 182645 , Reply# 66   5/27/2012 at 03:00 (2,866 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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"I found that the standard tubes could be hard to separate sometimes." I wish I had your problem - With me the tubes keep separating during vacuuming which can be inconvenient...




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