Thread Number: 16582
I now own a Rainbow and really like it.
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|Post# 176910   4/12/2012 at 17:04 (2,910 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)  || |
A friend of a friend of mine who lives here is moving to Az. and she is doesn't want to lug her Rainbow with her so since She loves the whole vacuum collecting thing she brought it to me. It's an SE edition that she bought new in 1996. She told me she never really used it, her hubby would use it every now and then on the hard wood. So this is like new, very clean and very complete, She always kept it together. It's a great vacuum just like a new one. I used the crap out of it this week. I have sold many of these but never really used one for good cleaning.
When I first told her about the club she had to check it out. she does look at the forums from time to time. Hi Julie, I love your Rainbow
|Post# 176932 , Reply# 1   4/12/2012 at 18:56 (2,910 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)  || |
I bought one like that new and had it for 18 years. The reason I NEVER realized how much less dust you have with a Rainbow was becasue being a collector I would use the Rainbow a few times and then go and get another type machine.
Where I really saw the difference was when I did what a long time Rainbow dealer suggested. Use ONLY the Rainbow for 6 months and THEN try and go back to a bagged or baglless cleaner. I used only the Rainbow SE for over 1 year and now I cannot go back. I bought the new Rainbow when it first came out last year. It has so many customer user features.
My suggestion would be to:
(1) use ONLY the Rainbow for at least 3 months and you will see so much less dust on the blinds and table tops.
(2) never,ever any nasty smell or odors
(3) store your water basin where you empty and fill it
(4) get the storage rack for the tools and hose
(5) after you have used the Rainbow for a few weeks you will see a big difference in the amount of dust on everything.
Now where the Rainbow is picking up more dirt,leaking less dirt back in the air or because EVERY time you use it you are getting constant air flow with no bag or filter to clog-who knows. I was sure a VERY HARD sell until I tried the test myself. I will tell you the new machine is much easier to use because of the longer electric hose,electric wands,one set of wands and one hose to use and the new power nozzle is a BIG improvement.
I will say my hepa filter is just as white and clean after a year of hard use so I really don't see the point unless you use it to:
(1) pick up fireplace ash or drywall dust (which I would not do with any good vac)
(2) don't change the water every 1/2 hour
My Rainbow SE is 18 years old and exhaust is still as clean as new and never any hint of odor.
Mine is not a scientific study or controlled test but I can sure say my asthma is much better and there is just less dirt in the house now.
The Rainbow is not for everyone. It takes more time to set up and it is heavy but the results are so wonderful.
|Post# 176937 , Reply# 2   4/12/2012 at 19:45 (2,910 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa, OK)  || |
I love my Rainbow E2 series single speed and the tools are well designed. The upholstery tool is awesome and its design allows more air to flow through the tool. I was really skeptical of the Rainbow at first. I’ve been using mine at both my parent’s and grandparent’s homes which are not always vacuumed regularly. So there is a lot of dirt and pet hair in both of their homes. I checked the Hepa filter last week and it still looks clean. The water bath must be doing its job.
Like Rob stated above. I change my water frequently and never let it get too dirty. Although it’s a pain it is necessary for the health of the machine. The only downfall on the older models is the power nozzle. Starting from SE to E2( not the current model) the power nozzle was not designed well. It’s not sealed very well and has a small clearance in its air path. I know that Phillip would agree that the Eureka nozzles had a better design. My Rainbow E2 has a lot of power but not as much as my Tristar or some of my newer Electrolux’s. This was a disappointment to me at first. But after I started using the Rainbow more often I have no complaints, it doesn’t seem to loose suction.
I wouldn’t want to use my Rainbow as my daily driver. It just takes too much time to fill the basin, wash it out and let the basin dry overnight. Again, congratulations on your Rainbow. Has does it compare to your Thermax?
|Post# 176939 , Reply# 3   4/12/2012 at 19:51 (2,910 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)  || |
I use either a TriStar CXL (w/Micro-lined bag & HEPA filter) or a shop vac to pick up fireplace ash.
A shop vacuum w/fine dust collection bag & HEPA cartridge filter does VERY nicely for the finest dust, liquids & fireplace ash. :)
CLICK HERE TO GO TO floor-a-matic's LINK
|Post# 176944 , Reply# 4   4/12/2012 at 20:54 (2,910 days old) by joshdonnell ()  || |
I sometimes miss my rainbow which now sets out side in the storage room.
|Post# 176947 , Reply# 5   4/12/2012 at 21:11 (2,910 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)  || |
I thought of several other ideas tht have provem helpful when using the Rainbow on a daily basis:
(1) I only rinse out the water basin. I don't mess with drying it out as it will just be used the next day with water again. Store it where you dump and fill the basin.
(2) After a few uses and you have removed the heavy,built up dirt-I only take the separator off and clean it maybe once a month. Now if I do a heavy job like the garage floor I do wash it. After a while you can tell just by looking if it needs to be washed. Some Rainbow owners buy more than one separator and just change out when it gets dirty so they don't have to stop and wash it.
(3) I never messed with the attachment caddy on the machine with my SE. It seemed to get in the way. I got the door storage rack and keep all the tools on the rack
(4) I will say I was not impressed with the power nozzle on my old SE,but after using it exclusivley for 1 year, I used my Hoover Windtunnel and my Kirby and removed very little dirt. I guess the Rainbow power nozzle was doing a better job than I had expected.
(5) Keep it simple. the new model does store so much easier because the motor unit does lock and store on the dolly without the water basin. The fact that the new machine uses one hose and one set of wands does simplify the use of the Rainbow.
(6) One thing to keep in mind- with the Rainbow-you DO have to empty the basin but you are not spending time and money buying and chasing down paper bags and filters on line or driving to a store. You stop spending money on upkeep and you are no longer storing filth in the closet. You start with a clean machine EVERY time you use it.
|Post# 176949 , Reply# 6   4/12/2012 at 21:16 (2,910 days old) by joshdonnell ()  || |
After using my rainbow, i felt like i dusting more .
|Post# 176952 , Reply# 7   4/12/2012 at 21:47 (2,910 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)  || |
You better leave that Rainbow in the storage room! It sounds like yours needs some professional attention.
(1) does it need the hepa filter washed or replaced?
(2) was it used without properly changing the water?
(3) maybe the separator needs cleaning?
(4) maybe it was used too long with dirty water and the fans need to be cleaned
(5) was the machine used to pick up fireplace ash or drywall dust?
It sure needs some attention if you are having to dust more after using a Rainbow. I would want it checked out before using the machine.
I have known several people who bought their Rainbows second hand from ebay and they found out too late that the machine had been abused and needed service.
|Post# 176969 , Reply# 8   4/13/2012 at 03:18 (2,910 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)  || |
|Post# 176972 , Reply# 9   4/13/2012 at 05:37 (2,910 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan )  || |
I love my Rainbow. I am very Rainbow spoiled. I have only had two vacuum cleaners since I was 18 years old and the first one was a Kenmore back from the 80's and then this one. The Kenmore was a nice vacuum and served it's purpose then I got my Rainbow and I don't think I will ever have anything else.
|Post# 176973 , Reply# 10   4/13/2012 at 06:11 (2,910 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)  || |
I am NOT trying to tell anyone which vacuum is most powerful,most suction or filters best. The point I was attempting to make was there are some tips that make using the Rainbow much easier and faster to use.
Because I have had many different brands of vacuums I DID NOT realize the benefits of my Rainbow only because I would use it and then change over and use another bagged or bag less type of machine.
Like others on the forum, I have many other vacuums which have more suction with clean bags and filters. I have uprights that are handy to go through the middle of the room and I have several of the new bag less machines but this is what works for me in my situation with asthma. No dry dust to mess with and no more bags or filters to buy. I just love the fact that EVERY time I use it, I have a new machine with full suction and airflow. Not one time in 18 years have I ever turned on the Rainbow SE and had any odor or stale smell. In my case, it is worth the 30 seconds it takes to dump the water and rinse the basin.
I hope some of these pointers help Phillip with his Rainbow.
|Post# 176989 , Reply# 11   4/13/2012 at 14:04 (2,910 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa, OK)  || |
That's a great idea leaving the basin next to the sink. The Rainbow is a definitely a vacuum that has multiple uses. I would like to try the mop system. It looks very interesting.
Phillip have you tried using your Thermax fragrances in your Rainbow? Are they compatible? Iíve noticed mine creates more bubbles when using the Thermax fragrances.
|Post# 177239 , Reply# 12   4/15/2012 at 18:58 (2,907 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)  || |
Sorry guys I've been away, very busy.
Rob, thanks for the info. I can't believe as many of these I have rebuilt and sold that I never kept one for myself.
Kenny, I did compare and let me say the Rainbow and Hyla were close to the same. The Rainbow is a little better than the Hyla but the Hyla has a better PN.( my opinion) However I love the Thermax and I do think the Thermax has a slightly better suction but that really doesn't matter. One is about as good as the other for cleaning. I like using the Thermax the best and the Hyla the least. I do use the Thermax scent as well as generic that I bought. I don't think the Thermax scent lasts as long. I will say this about Rainbow and Hyla, as far as the PN goes they both beat Thermax there. The Thermax uses a Hoover Futura type PN and I don't think it grooms as well, but I have a spare Wessel Werks that will fit both the Rainbow and the Thermax. I did have at one time a Rainbow E-2 ( was the early single speed ) that I serviced to resell. I almost kept it but I didn't use it but maybe 10 mins. because the house was under construction and I didn't feel like doing any deep cleaning. I sold it very quickly.