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The best straight suction canister is...? |
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Post# 173431 , Reply# 3   3/16/2012 at 01:31 (4,418 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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I seldom use my Kirbys in the hose mode-as mentioned by others-any other canister vacuum can outdo the Kirby in the hose mode.the only canister vacuum I can easily think of that is direct air is the commercial NSS M1 or its clone-the Pacific Steamex version. |
Post# 173448 , Reply# 6   3/16/2012 at 07:23 (4,418 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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The best straight suction canister cleaner for the money now in North America is the Electrolux UltraSilencer Green. I bought it after consulting the latest tests done by Consumer Reports and it is a wonderful vac: excellent air flow through the hose for tool use, excellent bare floor cleaning with this wonderful "Dust Magnet" combination carpet/bare floor tool, extremely quiet, variable speed control, excellent emissions control, and a 7-foot hose which is longer than the closely-rated Miele Olympus (it's hose is only 6 feet long). If you care about the environment, it's neat to know that 50% of the main body is made from recycled plastic - hence the "Green" in the model name.
I love the long unencumbered hose handle that allows you to squeeze into tight corners anywhere. It also comes with a positive lock telescopic tube, and the famous Electrolux combo dusting brush/upholstery nozzle with adjustable wings. The "Dust Magnet" combination carpet/floor tool is excellent! Nice articulating neck that allows you to maintain full contact with the floor no matter what position the wand is in. It is actually pretty good at picking up surface litter from carpets with its felt lint grabber strips and the floating suction channel helping out the strong suction and airflow. This vac uses a washable HEPA exhaust filter too. The only major downside: there is only a little clip on the hose handle to store the combo upholstery nozzle - and this I find is not very useful as the tool is not very well secured. No matter - I have a separate little box in which I keep all the tools along with the box of extra disposable bags. The hose has a universal profile/diameter, so this vac can take any standard friction fit attachment - I actually use a nice Kenmore horse-hair dusting brush with the UltraSilencer. This vac was relatively inexpensive - it goes for $300 in the USA, and CAD$350 in Canada. On the "minimum" power level - it is almost silent! All you hear is the air flowing through the attachment you are using! And at "minimum," the airflow is fantastic! CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 173450 , Reply# 7   3/16/2012 at 07:52 (4,418 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)   |   | |
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I am going to join in here.
Kirby as a canister works very well and will not harm the machine. I don't like the newer set of attachments kirby uses, so I use the bare floor tool from my Oreck Buster B. I have used Kirby's all of my life and if I had to replace all of my vacuums it would be with a Kirby. Kirby vacuums are built to last a lifetime and do. They are also one of the most Green vacuums on the market, simply because everything is rebuildable or replaceable on the machine, low amperage motor and all the metal parts can be reused. The G series all have good air flow and will do the job. You don't need a 12 amp motor to clean bare floors. You just need good air flow and the Kirby has that. I also have the newer Electrolux Ultra Silencer in my collection. It is a great vacuum, quiet good air flow and a lower amp motor. The tools other than the floor tool are similar in design to the old Lux tools and work very well. The floor tool in my opinion is not great. The brush is very stiff and almost feels like it is scratching the floor. It does clean well. The bag is small but seems to maintain good air flow as it fills...the Turbo tool could be beefed up a bit, but still works well on lower pile carpets and area rugs. |
Post# 173454 , Reply# 8   3/16/2012 at 08:36 (4,418 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Morgan - I think the UltraSilencer's floor brush bristles are made of grey carbon fibre which are supposed to reduce static and pick up more fine dust from the floor. They actually seem finer and softer to me than regular bare floor brushes made of nylon bristles.
Dyson actually promotes the carbon fibre bristles on one of their turbo nozzles for use on bare floors... see link below. I think if you have very delicate polished hardwood flooring, it's best to use a SwifferVac to clean them as this stick vac has no bristles - just the soft floor cloth makes contact with the floor. The Shark Navigator upright as a floor tool that also takes Swiffer cloths. CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 173643 , Reply# 10   3/17/2012 at 07:56 (4,417 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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vinvac
True you do need good airflow But the trouble is that airflow has a major disadvantage FRICTION. for airflow to work well it needs a big pipe about 2inch in diameter. you will lose more than half the kirby's air flow by the time it reaches the end of the hose that is why you find very few direct air canister vacuums. You would do better by simply raising the head of the kirby and using it as an upright than using the hose. |
Post# 173644 , Reply# 11   3/17/2012 at 07:58 (4,417 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 173666 , Reply# 12   3/17/2012 at 09:34 (4,417 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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Just get a good old Model G Electrolux, QUIET, Plenty Powerful, and will outlast anything you can buy! |
Post# 173673 , Reply# 13   3/17/2012 at 11:15 (4,416 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)   |   | |
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Right on Hans,
Any Electrolux will do...good brushes, good air flow...quiet...put on a newer vinyl hose and your set to go. Gareth, I have used my older Kirby's with the felt pad on the nozzel. Works well on open spaces. Still like my Kirby's even with the tools. They just don't build machines as durable as the Kirby and metal Royals anymore. |
Post# 173675 , Reply# 14   3/17/2012 at 11:24 (4,416 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 173704 , Reply# 16   3/17/2012 at 14:29 (4,416 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Hi Shaun
I have the dc 35 with the carbon fibre head , its amazing. To answer your question on the db , I found it is , I have a original dc19 and this is alot quieter. to be fair I got hold of a brand new dc19 and side by side it is quieter mainly its lost that high pitched motor noise. this particular shape is still my favourite dyson canister. I prefer the old style bin as well as I have kids and lego is always been vacuumed up , it easier to pic the lego and other toys out the drum than to fish them out the bin after dumping them in. Gareth |