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Hoover Model 636
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Post# 173375   3/15/2012 at 19:27 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Hey guys, I went to my local vac shop today, and I got this Hoover. It doesn't have the original bag on it (the bag is currently red), although it runs pretty smoothly. I would like to take a look inside of the machine, but I just can't figure out how to take the hood off. Im used to the old Eureka's/Sanitaire's, and Kenmore Twin Fans. Also, if someone has the converter that attaches to the end of the hose that goes with it, I am interested in buying one.(I don't need the hose or any of the attachments... Just the converter) If someone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Daniel :-)


Post# 173377 , Reply# 1   3/15/2012 at 19:35 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Underneath:

Post# 173391 , Reply# 2   3/15/2012 at 20:41 (4,396 days old) by Brandon_W_T ()        

That thar is a veeeeeery rare machine! You got pretty darned lucky to find it in decent condition like that!


There should be two flathead screws underneath that hold the hood on. Its been a while since I took my 63s hood off, but yours is slightly different too, so someone else might be able to help!


Post# 173402 , Reply# 3   3/15/2012 at 21:46 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

I had no idea that it was rare! I found out how to take the hood off, although I don't have the right screw driver to unscrew the two screws. They are smooth/flat on the surface and have jagged edges around the head. I would like to find one of those converters too.... not sure if thats going to be difficult or not, and possibly a new bag for it. The red one that is on it right now is not in the best shape, and it has a hole blown out the front of it.

Thanks!
Daniel :-)


Post# 173408 , Reply# 4   3/15/2012 at 21:58 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Is there a way to get to the light bulb without removing the whole hood? Like can you pop the lens out? The light is burned out, and I want to replace it, but I can't get the hood off until I get the right tool to remove the screws.

Thanks,
Daniel :-)


Post# 173410 , Reply# 5   3/15/2012 at 22:12 (4,396 days old) by Brandon_W_T ()        

Nope unfortunately. The headlight lens fits quite snugly in a grove in the hood. As far as headlight lenses go, its probably the best friction fit design. Convertible ones always seem to fall out easily when hood is off, and if hood is warped, it never fits right. I like the 63 style hood better because of that.

Post# 173413 , Reply# 6   3/15/2012 at 22:20 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Okay, I'll have to go look for one of those screw drivers this weekend. Also, do you think this bag would fit on it? It says that it is for a convertible, but the 636 takes type C bags.
Thanks for all your help!


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Post# 173432 , Reply# 7   3/16/2012 at 01:32 (4,396 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
636

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Any chance of a picture of the handle please?

I ask because iy appears that this machine might be like the Uk version (638) with a footswitch - see picture 2, the silver lever on the right of the picture. Also it looks like the flex (cord) going up the outside of the handle in the same manner as it does on the Junior models. Was this a Canadian made machine?

Al


Post# 173434 , Reply# 8   3/16/2012 at 03:09 (4,396 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana)        
Hoover 636...

Your Hoover,636,is the same vac as the 634 US version which is a find here.They were a limited series produced at the end of the 63 line and the 64 Citation line.I believe,they wanted to use up that lines materials.Enjoy,they are a very nice machine.The bag's on the 634 took a dump out that took a "C" bag conversion,that had a bag clip on top.The entire machine was the same green color.It was a glamour machine.Enjoy...Michael

Post# 173457 , Reply# 9   3/16/2012 at 09:10 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Thanks for all of the info Michael! Here are some pictures of the handle for you Al. I did notice that it does have a foot switch, and it has the cord running outside along the handle. I thought for sure it would be built into the handle, but apparently I was wrong. Also, if anyone has a bag that will fit this that they are selling, please let me know. Im looking for either a turquoise/green one, or a grey one.

Thanks!
Daniel :-)


Post# 173458 , Reply# 10   3/16/2012 at 09:12 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        
Another picture...

Sorry for the bad quality of this one.

Post# 173460 , Reply# 11   3/16/2012 at 09:15 (4,396 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        
And the switch...

Its missing the cap/cover for it.

Post# 173507 , Reply# 12   3/16/2012 at 15:59 (4,395 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Can anyone tell me if this is a Canadian or American machine?!

Thanks!!
Daniel :-)


Post# 173511 , Reply# 13   3/16/2012 at 17:05 (4,395 days old) by Brandon_W_T ()        

Thats a Canadian model

The american model did not have the foot switch, nor did it have an exterior wrapped cord.

The bag originally was a bluish grey.


Here is an absolutely fabulous example from Fred's collection in Minneapolis.


Post# 173512 , Reply# 14   3/16/2012 at 17:19 (4,395 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Thanks Brandon!

Post# 173513 , Reply# 15   3/16/2012 at 17:27 (4,395 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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crap, now i want a hoover with a foot switch! :D


Post# 173516 , Reply# 16   3/16/2012 at 17:55 (4,395 days old) by chan55 (Green Bay, WI)        
Hoover model 636

Did these older models shift into high speed when the converter was inserted? Or was that a new feature on the Convertible? Was the suction about the same?

Post# 173563 , Reply# 17   3/16/2012 at 22:35 (4,395 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

I believe they do not shift into high speed since it looks like there is nothing there like a switch of some sort to do this. I may be wrong, but it doesn't look like it to me.

Daniel :-)


Post# 173567 , Reply# 18   3/16/2012 at 23:22 (4,395 days old) by Brandon_W_T ()        

The convertible was the first machine to have the two speed feature on the model 65.

Post# 173640 , Reply# 19   3/17/2012 at 06:46 (4,395 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Might be worth looking.....

Is that possibly a Perivale built machine? Its identical to our 638 in all but colour!
Seamus


Post# 174119 , Reply# 20   3/19/2012 at 20:18 (4,392 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Seamus, How would I find out if it is a Perivale built machine?

Daniel :-)


Post# 174139 , Reply# 21   3/20/2012 at 05:00 (4,392 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Daniel

The rating plate will state something like Made by Hoover Limited Great Britain for The Hoover Company- All US 9 series Heavy Duty machines from the 913 onward were made over here as were the US Lightweights 1330 etc(Although on the 1340 onward the bags/handles were added in NC)

Seamus


Post# 174195 , Reply# 22   3/20/2012 at 15:29 (4,391 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

Theres only one problem to finding this out. As you can see in the second picture from the top, the model plate is almost completely gone. The only way I could tell what model stamped into the metal on the bottom of the machine.
Daniel


Post# 174198 , Reply# 23   3/20/2012 at 16:24 (4,391 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
My 638

Facebook album......


Do you have the baseplate? if you do and it says carpets as opposed to rugs that wouls be a sign it was UK built

Seamus


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Post# 174201 , Reply# 24   3/20/2012 at 16:58 (4,391 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

The 636 looks very similar to your 638, although the number on my 636 doesn't go all the way around the base like yours does. Here is the bottom plate. It just as well may be a UK built machine, but I just wish the model plate wasn't worn off like it is :/

Post# 174206 , Reply# 25   3/20/2012 at 17:25 (4,391 days old) by SeamusUK (Dover Kent UK)        
Id say....

That its a UK machine as I dont think the Canadian factory would have built it with a footswitch etc. Also note the HOOVER on the hood is picked out in white like our 638 whereas the US version its unhighlighted......

Seamus


Post# 174222 , Reply# 26   3/20/2012 at 19:36 (4,391 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
On the number 6

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Apart from the interesting points Seamus makes about the "Hoover" being highlighted and "carpets" as opposed to "rugs", I must say, having done some work on my 638 very recently, this machine looks absolutly identical.

Now it may be just a co-incidence but the Canadian version of our 375 was model 376, and I believe also that the Canadian version of the Hoover 417 was 416. Was there a Canadian version of our 119 (US = 115)? what model would that be?

Al


Post# 174252 , Reply# 27   3/21/2012 at 06:34 (4,391 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada)        

I believe it would be a model 118? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they look awfully similar. Here is a link to pictures of a model 118 that I got from a google search.

Daniel :-)


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