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Post# 172070   3/5/2012 at 18:56 (2,949 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        

So today I decided to dig out my Aura Roboclean and I thought I would dedicate a post to vacuum cleaners using water. Most think of the Rainbow but nowadays you see so many others. Lets discuss all vacuums that use water as filtration.




Post# 172083 , Reply# 1   3/5/2012 at 20:13 (2,949 days old) by venson ()        
There are a whole lot . . .

You're Roboclean is a really nice looking machine AND you are the first person that I have encountered that owns one. I'm much impressed. Anyway . . .

I'm probably missing some but the brands that come to mind are Delphin, Hyla, Big Power (no separator), Rotelli, Aroma (if they're still in manufacture), the Rothco which may be trying to work in bags, the Ocean Blue (a barely masked Rainbow clone). Euro Pro made one, also sans separator, years ago. It strongly resembled what we call Hyla now. There's a European machine -- the brand is Poulti -- but I'm not sure if they are sold here though I believe its vapor steam cleaners are.

Not to forget, there is also the Gaya (or something like that) that employs suction and vapor steam separately or together for vacuuming and floor/above-the-floor cleaning.) I remember inquiring about them a good while back but learned that a shortcoming was that the 120 voltage version for the U.S. did not perform as well as the European counterpart that was intended to operate on higher current.

If you're thinking bagless, water-type vacs are a not bad alternative in that clean up means not having to deal with dry, airborne dust in the process of emptying the machine. When I was done working, I'd take the water pan straight to the toilet and flush away the contents. Nonetheless, the water pan would need a decent wash and rinse at the kitchen sink. And, of course, the separator did too.

There you have the fly in the ointment as far as water-type vacs go. They can't be just pulled out of the closet plugged in and used, then put away. They must be assembled, filled properly for use, then disassembled and properly stored if you want to protect a usually expensive investment. Rexair/Rainbow always insisted its motor unit not be stored on the water pan -- even though empty (bad for the life of the seals). Many makers of other machines call for the same in their user manuals.

Another hitch is that since the filtering medium is water you have to tolerate extra weight. Going for the option of a larger water pan to allow extended cleaning time means even more weight. Speaking of filtering medium, its suggested that you change the water in the machine after every 15 to 20 minutes of use. (That compensates for not only the amount of stuff you pick up but I think a certain amount of evaporation too.

All that said, by type, these vacuums are an acquired taste and not a lot of people learn to live with them -- especially those purchasing them as a sole vacuum.

I have always loved the pure science of Rexair and Rainbow and thus have owned a few. The suction was good enough though I could have lived without Rainbow's straight-suction rug tool with the louvers on top. The other nozzles -- the original vertically pivoting one and the two that used the knurled bolts you had to loosen and tighten to change the brush height gave me more of a feeling I was cleaning.

I very much liked the Eureka-cloned power nozzle that came with my D2 but have never been much impressed with the it followers through the years.


Post# 172085 , Reply# 2   3/5/2012 at 20:28 (2,949 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        

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I had never heard of the Roboclean so I just Googled it. I would say that it must be licensed version of the Rainbow. Many, many similarities.

Post# 172086 , Reply# 3   3/5/2012 at 20:31 (2,949 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Aura Robo Clean is

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in no way connected to Rainbow .

Post# 172096 , Reply# 4   3/5/2012 at 22:24 (2,949 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
no way connected to Rainbow

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Looking at it and not knowing I would call it a Rainbow. It may not be connected, but I was giving credit as a licensed copy. It is definitively a copy. A very good copy. Maybe a German copy, but it is a copy from what I see in the picture, and knowing nothing about the machine otherwise; Is this a separator machine?

Post# 172099 , Reply# 5   3/5/2012 at 22:30 (2,949 days old) by Trebor ()        
The new Big Power...

is a separator machine, has a plastic tray that sets over the open pan. very quiet, uses a p/n I do not recognize, not Lindhaus, not Sebo, not Cen-tec, not Wessel, not Electrolux

Post# 172102 , Reply# 6   3/5/2012 at 22:43 (2,949 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan )        

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I have Rainbow D4C and I love it. But next to the Rainbow my next favorite would be the Thermax. While I don't have any experience with the Thermax I have heard that they are great machines.

Post# 172108 , Reply# 7   3/5/2012 at 23:26 (2,949 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

I wouldn't mind having a rainbow, but over here in blighty, people selling them think they're made of solid gold and want silly money for them, so I'm not entirely confident I'll actually get one!!! :S

Given that they use water for filtering, they're also handy as a wet & dry vac I guess, and as already mentioned, no mushroom clouds of dirt when emptying it, so great for anyone who suffers from asthma or other breathing difficulties... :)

The only issue I'd have is using water to vacuum, and given that our useless water co's leak thousands of gallons a day from the nations reservoirs and pipework, there's been a lot of water shortages in recent years, so, yeah, probably wouldn't get used much when the ol' "water-saving" measures are put in place... :(


Post# 172133 , Reply# 8   3/6/2012 at 07:29 (2,948 days old) by baglessball ()        

I own a polti lecoaspira (vaccum + steam) and a cheap make called hydra by gisowatt (vacuum). I hve a rainbow too.

I'm not keen on the rainbow, at all. Not for the 900+ anyway! I think I would like there latest model. I don't like how the dolly catches everything, and I don't think the suction is all that imo. It is the simplest maintain requiring a trip to the loo and a wash out in the sink.

The others machine water containers need to be cleaned in the bath afterwards. It's quite a task!

I'm a little fascinated by water filtration, I've always wanted to make something for Kirby using a similar method as I don't think it would impede on the airflow.


Post# 172137 , Reply# 9   3/6/2012 at 07:51 (2,948 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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These are pretty similar to the original principle of the wet and dry canister - especially in the clear up afterwards. I recall my Vax canister principle - all very well until you come to empty it and then have to go through the work of cleaning everything out.

Unless you empty a vacuum down the toilet or in your garden, there's a strong danger in the UK that the kitchen drain gets clogged all too quickly. Not a bother in the U.S or Canada where waste disposal units have a much wider opening - even European fitted kitchens have systems that have narrow pipes.

I like the idea of the water filtration idea but I'm rather surprised after all this time that no portable canister/size of a traditional "Miele" cylinder vacuum has not been sold in the UK which offers water filtration and dust capture within the water. It would make a lot more sense to have this rather than cart something the size of a Vax canister around.



Post# 172140 , Reply# 10   3/6/2012 at 07:59 (2,948 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
re: roboclean

the roboclean is very much like a d4 rainbow but the motor and serperator are very different and obviously has the added electronics, a cord rewind and the pump and water suppy are built in to the machine. And now everything is controlled by a remote handle even the pump for the shampooer. I really like the vacuum

Post# 172141 , Reply# 11   3/6/2012 at 08:07 (2,948 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
Pictures

can you guys post pics of all these different machines?

Post# 172149 , Reply# 12   3/6/2012 at 09:30 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        

Big Power (Italian, I believe)--

Though it sounds like the makings of a messy clean-up, the separator has been eliminated for the employment of "deflectors" to keep water away from the fans.


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Post# 172152 , Reply# 13   3/6/2012 at 09:49 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

Gaia, not Gaya, is another Italian import with more than enough gadgets and doo-dads. It even offers a steam iron.

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Post# 172153 , Reply# 14   3/6/2012 at 09:58 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

Delphin (German, I think) --

You can choose between a battery-operated PN or a standard type that Big Power once used.


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Post# 172155 , Reply# 15   3/6/2012 at 10:06 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

This Polti is the same all-in-one idea as Gaia. John Lewis carries it in the UK. I'm not sure but we might be able to find it here in the U.S. at specialty houses.

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Post# 172157 , Reply# 16   3/6/2012 at 10:17 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

The Aroma was all over the place and still can be found but I have a strong feeling it has been discontinued.

Post# 172158 , Reply# 17   3/6/2012 at 10:39 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

Rotho apparently is yet another vendor looking to be all things to all people. They now have two models. One of which, possibly both, now accommodate a "bag box" if water filtration is not your thing.

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Post# 172161 , Reply# 18   3/6/2012 at 11:01 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

And then they wrote . . . The Ritello

Post# 172172 , Reply# 19   3/6/2012 at 13:38 (2,948 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
@ Harley Robo Clean is

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a seperator machine . But the machine looks nothing like a Rainbow . You need to see them both in person I guess to see how different they really are .

Post# 172173 , Reply# 20   3/6/2012 at 13:42 (2,948 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
My Pro Aqua

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This is a very good German made water vacuum .

It does a great job has a soft start motor .

Very well made, quiet and powerful .


Post# 172185 , Reply# 21   3/6/2012 at 14:47 (2,948 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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the aroma and the polti were both sold here under the Hoover name plate, absolute rubbish,, we had so many as trade inn that we started supplying the company that distributes vacuums under the hover name plate with them for parts.

Water filtration is not my favourite vacuum but I can't deny they are good aslong as you get a decent one. the ritello is very plastic'y we had one already that fell over and that lovely design flair just shattered. parts are expensive but no were near rainbow ridiculous.

A rainbow here in SA can depending on the dealer cost you any were between $ 3000 - 4000.00.


Post# 172196 , Reply# 22   3/6/2012 at 16:20 (2,948 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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ah yes, I had forgotten about the Rotho - thats more of the size I'm talking about - yet its taken how long to produce a small canister compared to the oodles of tub vacuums?? Not exactly the same as Rotho but similar in looks (could be the same company?) terms of being a wet and dry "portable" canister: Thomas Hygiene T2 from Germany:





Post# 172198 , Reply# 23   3/6/2012 at 16:22 (2,948 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        
Here's a central vac diagram - do you see anything under

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Here's also what I just found on the Thomas UK website - they also fit central vacuums:

Note the system runs up the side of the house?



Post# 172199 , Reply# 24   3/6/2012 at 16:23 (2,948 days old) by vacuumfan96 (Oxford, MI)        
Water filtration

Hey guys, I had actually built a water filtration shop vac. If anyone would like I could post pics of it here.

Post# 172207 , Reply# 25   3/6/2012 at 16:38 (2,948 days old) by joshdonnell ()        
water filteration

the proaqua is nice but theres no dealers around me ;(

Post# 172224 , Reply# 26   3/6/2012 at 19:19 (2,948 days old) by venson ()        
@vacuumfan98 . . .

Of course post the pictures. They'll be great to see.

Post# 172239 , Reply# 27   3/6/2012 at 22:48 (2,948 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
Re:

wow i never knew there was so many but you guys forgot one the Thermax

Post# 172241 , Reply# 28   3/6/2012 at 22:51 (2,948 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
big power

i used to sell these, id say they were the most powerful water units i've ever seen and they sounded like a washing machine with the water swishing back and forth. They are a pain to clean though

Post# 172270 , Reply# 29   3/7/2012 at 06:42 (2,947 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

Hi,

I didn't really forget the Thermax, just decided to pass albeit there is the newer model. I don't see it as a "daily driver" as some of you say. (And I figured someone else would fill in the gaps as it were.) I passed on Hyla's GST as well since I couldn't find a downloadable image.

What I'd be most curious to learn about both brands is where they sell and at what volume. I never see them nor have ever seen either in anyone's home on the east coast. My math has never been great but it's obvious that they are selling somewhere because the companies are still in existence and at least surviving in spite of the high prices it expects for its product. Bagged AirWay unfortunately didn't make the cut despite its many years on the market.

Due to price, current purchases of D-T-D vacuums in general lay an interesting contrast when there's so much talk about the bad economy. Do they remain attractive because their purchase can be achieved by way of financing -- if available -- or by use of credit cards which remains dangerous. I doubt that many of us can reach in a pocket and pull out cash to cover like buys.


Post# 172272 , Reply# 30   3/7/2012 at 07:07 (2,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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If you really want to annoy a thermax dealer call it a vacuum cleaner,,, acording to them its a home sanitizing system IE a vacuum cleaner , boy do they get cross :)

they are sold here but Im not impressed with them , we get them in allot as there warranty is poor and they always seem to find any excuse not to cover there machines when they break. I think the plastic is cheap the motors on the old units were good lamb ametek motors


Post# 172280 , Reply# 31   3/7/2012 at 09:11 (2,947 days old) by Trebor ()        
A Rotho TT...

in my opinion is utterly useless, except in an already immaculate home. The water take is only ONE QUART. I have demoed Kirbys in homes that would clog up, suffocate, and utterly destroy a TT inside of 60 seconds.

Post# 172283 , Reply# 32   3/7/2012 at 09:37 (2,947 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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we get a lot of rainbows , ( the best selling water vacuum in SA ) as trade inns. the current trend now amongst the well do do is to move out of the city and into the rural more farm like environment. the rainbows just can't handle the amount of dust out there. the water turns to mud, and its all over.especially near the wheat farms during harvest. BIG dust cloud and in SA we like doors open its always nice weather here so that leads to dusty house.
I am not knocking them just sharing what we have found out here in deepest darkest Africa ,,,, were its actually sunny and light most of the time hehe


Post# 172290 , Reply# 33   3/7/2012 at 10:05 (2,947 days old) by redgeminipa ()        
H2O Vac Turbo

The Thane H2O Vac Turbo...

We got a new one from goodwill.com for $15 + shipping. It's ok... it's worth $15 :)

It has decent suction, but the water basin is almost useless, and filtration is another issue. I blew cigarette smoke into it, and, sure enough, the smoke came out the exhaust.

Like I said, it's worth $15, but I wouldn't pay any more than that for one.

I'm still waiting to snag a deal on a Hyla GST... :)


Post# 172357 , Reply# 34   3/7/2012 at 15:23 (2,947 days old) by vacuumfan96 (Oxford, MI)        
venson

Sure thing Venson. They should be up on here or I will either make a vid of it on my youtube channel TheVacuumGuy. I will post the link to here to my youtube account when the video is up ok.

Post# 172364 , Reply# 35   3/7/2012 at 15:58 (2,947 days old) by venson ()        
@vacuumfan98 . . .

I'll be a waitin'!

Post# 172371 , Reply# 36   3/7/2012 at 16:15 (2,947 days old) by vacuumfan96 (Oxford, MI)        
Video

It should be up in about 7 min. I had accedently erased the video off of my hard drive... si I had to re-import it and publish it. that took about 3 min so that should be almost done plus the time it takes youtube.

Post# 172372 , Reply# 37   3/7/2012 at 16:18 (2,947 days old) by vacuumfan96 (Oxford, MI)        
Vid for VL and venson

there is the vid. Enjoy!

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Post# 172377 , Reply# 38   3/7/2012 at 16:52 (2,947 days old) by venson ()        
@vacuumfan96 . . .

Wow! You work fast.

It's a cool idea and very impressive that you put it together and got a demo of it online in such short order. That's the kind of stuff that would take me 'til Xmas 2015 to finish. Keep up the good work.

Just curious -- what's the water level in the capture bucket and do you have any kind of baffle between the water in it and the opening in the top for the exiting air?


Post# 172384 , Reply# 39   3/7/2012 at 17:25 (2,947 days old) by vacuumfan96 (Oxford, MI)        
Venson

I was actually done with it along time ago! =) The water level is about a quarter of the way in the bucket. the air intake in the bucket it is quite high up so VERY VERY little water get up in to the hose. The second bucket acts as a shroud so the water that will never make it out of the bucket collects the water that wont go in to the bucket, so it won't go in to the motor. Thankyou for the complement!

Post# 172568 , Reply# 40   3/8/2012 at 20:40 (2,946 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
Aura RoboClean

here is the video of my roboclean

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Post# 172603 , Reply# 41   3/9/2012 at 04:14 (2,945 days old) by venson ()        
@Davinator . . .

Thanks for the video. I didn't know the water pan on this model had two pieces. I'd thought the top piece was part of the motor unit. What's clean up after use like.

By the way, does does this use a by-pass (separately cooled motor)?


Post# 172671 , Reply# 42   3/9/2012 at 15:22 (2,945 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        

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Wow, I think I'd rather have the Aura RoboClean over the new Rainbow. That demo looks great. Very nice editing.
Justin


Post# 172676 , Reply# 43   3/9/2012 at 16:13 (2,945 days old) by venson ()        
One more for the pile . . .

This is the Euro Pro water type I was trying to find. It preceded the Hyla brand by a good while. HSN used to sell it when it carried a major amount of Euro Pro product (vacuums and vapor steam cleaners). Also, this machine uses baffles and filters but no separator. I do not know if there ever was a version that did.

I recall it because it looks a lot like what is now Hyla making me wonder when and where they got control of the design.


Post# 172846 , Reply# 44   3/11/2012 at 12:44 (2,943 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
re: venson

Thanks, it does have its own cooling fan

Post# 172883 , Reply# 45   3/11/2012 at 21:26 (2,943 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Where or how are the other H2O vacs sold? Seems like I haven't seen the rest, other than Thermax, Rainbow or Thane H2O Vac.

Post# 172889 , Reply# 46   3/11/2012 at 22:19 (2,943 days old) by venson ()        
@floor-a-matic . . .

The cheap ones like Aroma and Thane usually sell flavor of the day style via TV spots, infomercials and on the net like the erstwhile Garry Vac. In past I've seen an aired Ocean Blue ad or two as well.

Machines priced up comparably to Rainbow are sold door-to-door usually. Hyla, Delphin, Rotho all have reps here but I too am surprised because I never see the machines in anyone's hand or home. As most have a U.S. sales site and have all been here a while, I guess they must be doing something right because they're still in production whether you see the product much or not.

I assume they must the bulk of their D-T-D business in the suburbs 'cause that kind of selling is not the kind of thing to do in cities of any size any longer.


Post# 172909 , Reply# 47   3/12/2012 at 03:32 (2,942 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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@ venson

that machines basic design belongs to a Italian vacuum group who sold that machine to various company's. In dry format it was sold as a Delongi , Wap , Ryobi and many others, Wet it was a conti and many other oddball names


Post# 172917 , Reply# 48   3/12/2012 at 07:29 (2,942 days old) by billybud21 ()        
So I never have owned ....

a Rainbow or Thermax machine before. I have always had either dirty air or clean air vacuums with tradition bag and filter setups.

In particular, what is the Rainbow like? Is it an OK machine or better than that? It looks like there is a lot of preparation involved in vacuuming, which I like, but is the machine worth all the work.

Also, I noticed the most recent models of the Rainbow hovering around the thousand dollar mark on Ebay, so what are they worth new from the distributor? Here is a link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rainbow-E-E-2-Va...

Thanks,

Johnathan


Post# 172941 , Reply# 49   3/12/2012 at 12:37 (2,942 days old) by venson ()        
@gsheen . . .

Thanks much for the info. It also being Italian in origin, then this must be what the Hyla evolved from.

Post# 172942 , Reply# 50   3/12/2012 at 12:47 (2,942 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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It depends. You're either going to LOVE or HATE a Rainbow. Some people swear by them & others say they are no better than a regular bagged vacuum. Personlly, I have had my Rainbow brand new for six yrs and I LOVE IT, but admittedly I do get the bagged vacuum out to use really quickly to run through the house - but on Days when I get everything top to bottom I use My Rainbow. When used properly you're never going to have a bad smell - but only a fresh clean smell coming from the machine. Put a few drops of essential oil in the water and it smells fantastic. I think BRAND new you're talking 1999.00 to as much as 3000.00 depending on the situation and how lucky you are.

They are extremely durable and will last a LONG time. I know that picture above is from an Ebay seller; I think he sells Pro Aqua & sells trade in's on Ebay. I'm not sure if they are reconditioned or not. He also sells LOTS of unneeded extras and makes the listings sort of "tricky" so unless you read it very carefully, you'd almost think you're getting a brand new machine, when really you're getting a few brand new extras and a used machine. He has good feedback though. I'm getting ready to get mine out now and run it around the house. I kind of dread it but I need to get it done it's been a few days since I've dusted and vacuumed.



Post# 172946 , Reply# 51   3/12/2012 at 13:23 (2,942 days old) by billybud21 ()        

Mark, thanks for the information!

Johnathan


Post# 172949 , Reply# 52   3/12/2012 at 13:42 (2,942 days old) by venson ()        
@billybud21 . . .

Rainbows are decent performers but -- again -- an acquired taste. The big issue is whether or not users are prepared to give them adequate care. They certainly are not worth the investment if the user only does slapdash maintenance.

A long while back I read in some of its historical material online that the use of water actually came about more by accident than on purpose. However, once it was found to work it's inventor forged ahead.

Back in the early days it appeared us men folk had assumed that all-day homemakers -- quite the usual occupation for women then -- had time for everything. Thus there was presumed to be no problem with the five extra minutes it took to set up and the fifteen minutes or so it takes to dump the water pan and to wash and dry both it and the separator.

Even vacuums with shake-out bags, which was basically all there was, were considered the easier deal by many. Yet compared to current bagless machines the work for maintaining a modern Rainbow may be more or less the same in my opinion.

I've had bagless machines that I liked a lot but couldn't stand to see sitting dirty. Depending on who you are, looking at those clear collection bins cuts both ways. You find yourself not always thinking of how much you picked up but what the glorious machine you bought looks like when its innards are grungy after just a few uses. Thus, I got to be regular about washing filters and collection bins.

Cumulatively, the time spent to clean a bagless machine's bin and filters plus down time for drying if you don't have extra filters on hand adds up to time spent for several after-use clean ups of a Rainbow.

If you're a person who doesn't mind the time involvement for keeping and using what's actually a display of great science and if you're also a little on the fussy side, Rainbow should not prove a problem. If you're someone who's on the fly a lot it will present problems. You can't just yank one out of the closet and toss it back in -- not if you want to keep it.


Post# 172986 , Reply# 53   3/12/2012 at 18:18 (2,942 days old) by baglessball ()        

See I dont mind the extra bit of maintenance the rainbow requires.

It's the machine I do not like, and I really wanted to!!

If it were bagged, I would feel the same way. It feels cheap and plastics to pick up the unit. The numb dolly catches on furniture and door frames. For something so expensive I wasn't expecting super auction, which wasnt there -it's good but doesn't mta h the price. The cord hooks are crap. I find the pump style handle slightly uncomfortable. But the main thin is that big dumb power head. It's big, noisy, floaty, leaks air, there is loads of movement at your wrist, which the head doesn't respond to.

I can't understand why anybody likes th for the power nozzle alone. If that was better designed I may of liked the machine a lot more. I like vacuums to feel solid when I push them!!

Had to say!


Post# 173045 , Reply# 54   3/13/2012 at 02:58 (2,941 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The one thing we all have to take under consideration is the house we live in and how that affects our like or dislike of a vacuum due to the house design.Take my house
Its big but very badly designed, it has many levels, steps up steps down, (apparently it was a 70's thing) it has a mixture of carpet then wood flooring , them more carpet then tiles and so on Its a lovely home but using a rainbow in it is a nightmare, you have to constantly switch it off and move to the next level, change the brush for the hard flooring the works and yes smack the dam machine into every door jam.
I realise this when my wife and I went to look after a friends house in a very pretty part of the country for a weekend while they were away. They have a rainbow E and what a wonderful machine it wa to use , there house is carpeted through out with huge open areas on one level upstairs and down stairs. I could vacuum the whole floor ( with a really long extra lead 0 without stopping once.


Post# 366344 , Reply# 55   2/8/2017 at 00:13 (1,149 days old) by 2007hyundai (Lisbon, Maine)        

The only problem with Rainbows is that if you vacuum up a lot of fine dust like plaster dust or talcum powder for example, the water can't trap large amounts of that dust so it goes straight into the HEPA filter. They are very powerful vacuums though.

Post# 366387 , Reply# 56   2/8/2017 at 19:44 (1,148 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Mark40511 how are U liking your Sirena?

 

Does anyone have the latest Sirena with the new style PN?





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