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Post# 170913   2/25/2012 at 14:58 (2,958 days old) by venson ()        

Hi,

I suppose I qualify as a card carrying capitalist but sometimes I wonder. I've just come upon the Drawer Vac. It's half vacuum, half garbage disposal?

Check out the link below and tell me if this would work for you in your kitchen.

Venson


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Post# 170914 , Reply# 1   2/25/2012 at 15:11 (2,958 days old) by powermate1970 ()        
OMFG!!!!

We, as a society, are just plain LAZY!!! What ever happened to a dustpan?

Post# 170915 , Reply# 2   2/25/2012 at 15:22 (2,958 days old) by venson ()        

" . . . What ever happened to a dustpan?"

They hooked that up to a central vac too. :)


Post# 170916 , Reply# 3   2/25/2012 at 15:33 (2,958 days old) by minivanmegafun ()        

Seems like a good idea, if it's cheap, seeing as all it does is hook into your central vac system.

Post# 170918 , Reply# 4   2/25/2012 at 15:53 (2,958 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

By the same logic, why not just use a sweeping brush and a rug beater to clean floors & carpets? And use Candles made from tallow to light our homes? And have massive holes in the walls to contain fires to barely warm anything?

It's a modern idea for a modern home, and I like the idea of it, just sweeping spilled stuff from kitchen worktops into a drawer where they're taken away, rather than trying to sweep the stuff into your hand or into a cloth or something to transport it over to a bin...

I'd rather make my own of course, but that's just me... :P


Post# 170919 , Reply# 5   2/25/2012 at 15:54 (2,958 days old) by venson ()        
Cheap? Maybe . . .

The drawer vac can be used with your central vac system or an independent but dedicated vac that mounts under the counter. The other issue of cost is that they recommend this device for whisking away wet stuff too like peelings, etc. That requires a special catch-all to keep wet nasties from getting into the main tubing -- which of course they sell. I am only assuming that there'd be no issue with odors.

The company thinking all this up is Hughes Central Vacuum Concepts. The link's below.


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Post# 170922 , Reply# 6   2/25/2012 at 16:17 (2,958 days old) by Davinator1977 ()        
drawer vac

I have one it is awesome I also love my wally flex and vroom!

Post# 170923 , Reply# 7   2/25/2012 at 16:26 (2,958 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
"Seemed like a good idea at the time, Sweetums"

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"Pardon me while I tear apart the central vac to find your wedding ring and false fingernails" "Yikes, smells like a small animal died in here"

 

How embarrassing - it's manufactured in Ontario Canada about a hour's drive from me.

 

Frankly I can't imagine that anyone is so accurate as to sweep every speck of countertop debris into this small dustpan-sized pull-out contrivance without some landing on the floor.,,where standard cupboard baseboard kickspace central vacuum inlets have been a useful accessory for years now.

 

Shown sweeping away a few flakes fallen out of a bowl of cereal ready to eat. Why bother? Just dump them in the bowl...are Milady's countertops that filthy?

 

Their own long video demonstrates the inadequate airflow, with anything heavier than cornflakes having to be encouraged with a 'flick of the fingers'. And you'd fall in to the habit of opening it a second time to be sure the heavier stuff was sucked away...buttered toast crumbs will stick to the tray. Severe OCD'ers would spend hours checking the crumb status.

I hate to think of the stinking rot that will soon emanate after a few careless ingestions of salad cuttings as shown, when one neglects to empty the 'wet interceptor' bucket regularly - a labour intensive activity on its own judging from the one shown.

 

Oh well, at least it comes with a week's worth of neighborhood bragging rights before its negative aspects would naturally cause the inconvenience to fall into dis-use.

 

Suggested retail price - $99. On sale for US$69.95.

or

Hollow-handled Plastic dustpan you could install yourself or use manually...~$4 at the dollar store.

When I get this lazy or infirm just put me out of my misery, please.

Dave.


Post# 170924 , Reply# 8   2/25/2012 at 16:33 (2,958 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Seems Silly....

In all my years on this planet, I've never had a moment in the kitchen where I felt the need of anything like this.

I can also foresee that putting one of these units in a house with kids is asking for trouble. They would find a way to clog it for sure - I'm betting within nanoseconds.

At best, it's one more thing to clean. And at worst, since it's cabinet-mounted, it could easily contribute to an unsanitary condition inside that particular cabinet. Anyone who's ever had an in-cabinet garbage can (as I did in a St. Charles kitchen I once owned) knows how meticulous you have to be to avoid nasties and odors.

I admit I'm an old fogey - I don't even like garbage disposals. I've often said, "I have a firm policy in life - I don't throw garbage in the sink, and I don't wash dishes in the garbage pail."


Post# 170926 , Reply# 9   2/25/2012 at 17:06 (2,958 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
I Second Dave!

"Oh well, at least it comes with a week's worth of neighborhood bragging rights before its negative aspects would naturally cause the inconvenience to fall into dis-use."

In other words: Trash Masher, Part II.


Post# 170930 , Reply# 10   2/25/2012 at 18:56 (2,958 days old) by shag (Ontario, Canada)        

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I think it is a good idea if you were running a catering or cake decorating business out of your home. A friend of mine decorates cakes and has crumbs everywhere in her kitchen. Personally, when I wipe down the counters and there are crumbs, I just open the dishwasher door and sweep everything into it.

Post# 170932 , Reply# 11   2/25/2012 at 19:14 (2,958 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Um.. spare a thought for nursery children and the elderly - this is an ideal invention for people preparing food. Also restaurants/commercial kitchens could probably use it in some applications. I'd sooner have one located under my work bench in the shed when I'm shaving wood - wouldn't that it be a lot easier to just pull out a drawer and scoop all the wood shavings into a tray with a vacuum attached to it?

It's not all about people being lazy.


Post# 170937 , Reply# 12   2/25/2012 at 19:42 (2,958 days old) by powermate1970 ()        
Dave, I third!!!!!

Yeah, it's a neat idea, but, to affirm with Sandy's observation, I have children, and they have clogged up a shop vac! Just imagine what they could do with this!Need I say more.

Post# 170940 , Reply# 13   2/25/2012 at 19:54 (2,958 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Well, not if you are in a school and trying to teach children the basics of baking and cleaning up!

Post# 170952 , Reply# 14   2/25/2012 at 21:06 (2,958 days old) by powermate1970 ()        
ture

I'm not saying that this wouldn't be nice or useful in some places, but I'm not so sure about in a kitchen with children. I could see them spilling juice on the counter and, instead of wiping it up, taking their hand and "sweeping" the liquid into the vac. In the mind of a child, this would be logical if other "messes" on counter were pushed into it. Why wouldn't this one.

Post# 170954 , Reply# 15   2/25/2012 at 21:23 (2,958 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
One Thought Occurs to Me....

....This thing turns one operation into two, doesn't it?

If you have a food mess on the counter, you could just bat it into the sink's disposal, and then wipe the counter.

With this gadget, you bat it into the vacuum tray, wipe the counter, and then you have the vacuum tray to clean, unless you want the traces of food debris to harden up and get smelly.

Owners of this marvel will be convenienced to death, I think.


Post# 170977 , Reply# 16   2/26/2012 at 05:37 (2,958 days old) by venson ()        
I wonder . . .

Speaking of convenience and clean, I wonder if the thing can be popped out of position and put in the dishwasher.

Post# 171002 , Reply# 17   2/26/2012 at 11:47 (2,957 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yes, speaking as a representative from the UK - not many schools have the money to spend on waste disposal units - so again, this is a cheaper way of getting rid of dirt on workspaces. Plus can you chuck wood shavings, bolts, bits of metal down a sink disposal?

Post# 171008 , Reply# 18   2/26/2012 at 12:27 (2,957 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"This thing turns one operation into two, doesn't it

In the way you describe, batting stuff into the sink, wouldn't work for us in this house, as the sink is on the wall opposite to the preparation area, so, you'd have to be pretty skilled to bat a load of crumbs into the sink behind you... :\

The actions we'd have to do are to move the spill together, then brush it off into a cloth or our hand, then take it over to the bin (so the sink isn't blocked with food debris), this tray thing would reduce the steps to just sweeping the spills into the tray, and that's it, cos either way you'd end up throwing out the rubbish collected anyway, so, either way it'd all go in the bin...

Young minds, Fresh ideas....


Post# 171009 , Reply# 19   2/26/2012 at 12:33 (2,957 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
David:

I was speaking of the usual arrangement here in the States, where a twin-bowl sink is fitted with a disposal in one of its halves. In most American kitchens, the major counter area is right next to that sink; most people tend to do their messy preparation there for that reason.

Post# 171082 , Reply# 20   2/27/2012 at 07:58 (2,956 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"I was speaking of the usual arrangement here in the Sta

And I wasn't, cos there's more to the world than just the United States and the way you do things there... ;)

Post# 171098 , Reply# 21   2/27/2012 at 11:02 (2,956 days old) by totalvac ()        

I can see what they were going for, trying to make cleaning up kitchen spills/messes quick and easy, but I'm not sure it's necessary. What's wrong with a quick wipe down? Plus, how many kitchen spills are only going to be on the counter?

Post# 171108 , Reply# 22   2/27/2012 at 12:13 (2,956 days old) by Sanifan ()        
I like the idea...

...but not for the kitchen or wet stuff.

I think it would be great for any working with small, dry debris. Woodshavings were mentioned. Or for someone who crafts for a living; ie, folks who sew or do small manufacturing for an Etsy type business model, for example. If you have to sweep small debris off the table half-a-dozen or more times a day, wouldn't it be nice to sweep it into the receptacle, turn the vac on, and be clean until next time?

Having said that, I think it would be a disaster in the kitchen or for use with wet materials. I could see someone ditching the thing in a week after finding out they have to clean out all the internal stuck on glop from food and liquids.


Post# 171111 , Reply# 23   2/27/2012 at 12:51 (2,956 days old) by kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        

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Kind of a cool idea.
I don't know so much for the west stuff, but I more or less already have one. when I make a mess, like when making pies. I gather the large stuff and throw it in the garbage disposal or trash. and then open the dishwasher and sweep the remainint and wet stuff over the side. the open dishwasher door will catch it and mess be gone.

P.S. When spraying pans with PAM before baking. Open the dishwasher and sit the pan on the open door. The overspray will be washed away with the next cycle.


Post# 171146 , Reply# 24   2/27/2012 at 18:47 (2,956 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Frankly Im awaiting the day Dyson brings out a body dryer. I'm sure I read somewhere that something similar to his hand dryer exists. Would eliminate dirty terry towels forever!

Post# 171147 , Reply# 25   2/27/2012 at 18:49 (2,956 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
David:

"And I wasn't, cos there's more to the world than just the United States and the way you do things there..."

I'm quite aware of that, thank you. In fact, it's why I pointed out what I did.


Post# 171190 , Reply# 26   2/28/2012 at 03:26 (2,956 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I could see this thing attracting all kinds of "critter" from roaches to mice-esp if it isn't emptied properly.

Post# 171191 , Reply# 27   2/28/2012 at 04:03 (2,956 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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That comes down to the use of the owner and their state of cleanliness - as with all things.

Post# 171208 , Reply# 28   2/28/2012 at 08:22 (2,955 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"Frankly Im awaiting the day Dyson brings out a body dry

They can't cos someone already did (and I remeber seeing them on TV in the 90's when it was a "new" invention), so they're not allowed to unless they pay for the use of the patent... :)

Plus, all you have to do is stand in the exhaust path from a Tristar and hey presto, lots of warm air blasted in your direction... :P


Post# 171213 , Reply# 29   2/28/2012 at 08:50 (2,955 days old) by venson ()        
"Frankly I'm awaiting the day Dyson brings out a bod

Nice idea, but I'm afraid it could turn kinky.

Post# 171224 , Reply# 30   2/28/2012 at 09:53 (2,955 days old) by Sanifan ()        
Afraid?

Don't be afraid of that!

Post# 171226 , Reply# 31   2/28/2012 at 10:19 (2,955 days old) by venson ()        
I forgot to ask . . .

Considering devices like drawer vac, etc., what kind of central vac system do you have to have to support general household duty plus extras?

Post# 171389 , Reply# 32   2/29/2012 at 18:44 (2,954 days old) by Trebor ()        
The drawer vac...

debuted either simultaneously or just before the vroomm.

The vroom, in my estimation is the best of all the 'instant' clean central vac add-ons. It has a wide radius of use, it requires no ancillary tools, and it is fast. better than a drawer vac or a vac-pan.


Post# 171503 , Reply# 33   3/1/2012 at 12:21 (2,953 days old) by kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
And I wasn't, cos there's more to the world than jus

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Crap!! I thought we were the only ones. Looks like the Brits are still pissed we ran away, I just forgot about them and never looked back. but Some of the 'tudes explains why we left.


"Trash Masher, Part II. "
Having had a Trash Compactor of some make and style in my home for over 40 years, I have to say there is a rule for living a peaceful, odorless, co-existance. Rinse meat wrappers, cans, milk jugs before compaction. Don't compact wet, or odorful items i.e diapers, sanitary products, the like.

We have a seperate can for Non-compactables, and then the compactor. This results in about one regular bag of non-compacables a week, and a compactor bag about every two weeks.

Sorry for the hijack.



Post# 171508 , Reply# 34   3/1/2012 at 14:05 (2,953 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
Does the world need this???

Hm. Frankly no for me. But for those who like it....why not?

Same with smartphones: Do I like or need that? Plainly no, a call on my mobile is an insult by itself (shocking me out of my good times in nature or on the road), nothing could be so important as to having be transferred right away.
But I've educated my folks pretty well, they follow my media-diet perfectly: Should they not have waited until Fridy 15.00 o'clock with their ever so important message, they are in for a yelling treat.

So far things went better: E-mails and answerphones are emptied no earlier than this. Anything else is trashed or yelled at. This way I could manage to get things to good old thinking and pondering again, simply to come back to thinking and rephrasing things again.

For all others who like to heart-attack their way through life: No problem! Your life!
I tend to keep things simple: A good vac for a good and systematic cleaning tour, a dustpan for quick make-overs, a phone for something personal, a PC 1x a week for all that wannabe-hype-musthave-marketing spam. *shrugs* (Friday afternoon as you may have noticed by now).

And no medication to get my heartbeat down ;-)
So natural, so green, you won't believe it.


Post# 171550 , Reply# 35   3/1/2012 at 19:27 (2,953 days old) by venson ()        
@whirlpolf . . .

Your attitude is great but would probably kill appliance sales here in the U.S. Unfortunately, I only got to see the larger part of Germany from a train window but I was in Munich (München) for a few weeks. That was where I first discovered the wonderful difference of cultures although it took me at least two weeks to wind down from American to European speed.

I don't know if the rules have changed but shops and department stores there stayed open after 12:00 noon on Saturdays only one or two times a month. If you didn't have what you wanted or needed before then -- too bad. Neither love nor money would get it for you.

In contrast, we're a very accommodating sort -- when it comes to money. Even Macy's in New York now keeps its doors open for at least 24 hours near Christmas Eve.


Post# 171594 , Reply# 36   3/2/2012 at 00:02 (2,953 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
same thing here

hey Vanson,
There is no difference here, it's just the same.
In the old days (oldest, that is), shops were open from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., Mo to Fr.
Then came open Saturdays. Then open "no shopping, just showing" Sundays.
Then opening hours till 8, now till 10 and till midnight in larger towns.
In the biggest towns you will always find a centre open 24-7-365.

Back then we called it "go shopping" or "get some groceries", now the firms try to teach us about "ultimate feel-well consumers' experiences" and "all 5 senses product adventures" LOL.

Don't get me wrong, I DO buy appliances (vacs, mixers, washers ;-)))) but surely not that electronics garbage with all these "apps" (a horrible word). I am one of those that zap the TV off to standby when commercials come up, so why should I infest my pocket or my car with all that shreaky-voiced Heidi Klum fashion crap or any other hype.

Thumb rule = quality time. Playing with the cats, hopping on my bike to go seeing my sister, a night out with friends. I guess I am too old fashioned for today's corporations. ;-D




Post# 171595 , Reply# 37   3/2/2012 at 00:05 (2,953 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
sorry,

I meant to say "Venson".
My apologies.
Joe


Post# 171665 , Reply# 38   3/2/2012 at 17:27 (2,952 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
Ok. There also is available.....

A built in door mat that you rub your shoes on and it sucks all that dirt through the mat via being connected to the central vac. So, the end result is clean shoes, clean mat, a clean entrance . I know of someone who has this.


As far as the drawer vac. I worked in a bakery and I would use this drawer vac on a daily basis if Had one installed . With all the flour being used,I could see the drawer vac being a very effective tool in helping keep the work area tidy and possibly save on washing cleaning cloths.

Hmmmmm, an idea to ponder.


Post# 171737 , Reply# 39   3/3/2012 at 08:22 (2,951 days old) by uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK)        
its gonna get filthy

ok so i lve in the uk central vacs are not a big thing over here, but anyone who knows anything about vacuum cleaners and takes them apart will know that after a while of sucking food away the grease content in the food will come out and make it filthy, the amount of vacuums i have taken apart over the years from people that have kids that drop food on the floor or a vacuum thats used in a restaraunt or bar that are so cacked up with food grease it stops all the airflow, i can see the same thing happening to this draw and whatever pipework it has behind it, its a good idea and i can kind of see the need for it in some places but in my own opinion i think its gonna be a breeding ground for allsorts of nastys, we are always being told about food dangers especially with things like chicken, i wouldnt have one

Post# 171747 , Reply# 40   3/3/2012 at 10:24 (2,951 days old) by venson ()        
Maybe . . .

There is one wet/dry central vac system, the DrainVac, that actually flushes away what it captures. I don't know what its capability for pulling down what is literally garbage to its collection/disposal bin would be. However, I imagine its ability to handle fluids would allow for users to periodically pour some sort of cleaning solution down "DrawerVac" and like gadgets to purge the system's tubing to prevent odors plus germ and mold build-up.

However, from what I see, the DrainVac is at least an $1,800 item. Seems a lot cheaper just to walk to a garbage can.


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Post# 171753 , Reply# 41   3/3/2012 at 11:01 (2,951 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Speaking of drainvac

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i found a mini central vac on their website sorry for the hijack! i just thought it was a cute little thing www.drainvac.com/produits-fiche/0...

Post# 171781 , Reply# 42   3/3/2012 at 18:47 (2,951 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
uksausage....

There is a great product called Tornado power central vacuum maintenance cloths for that application.

I have used these myself on service call and they are very effective, especially if they are used on a regular basis.



That company also makes smaller cloths for canister vac hoses.

They were an invention form a mother who had a few kids. They sucked up milk in the central vac. The result of her solution to the problem of getting all the piping and the hose cleaned from the inside out, was the invention of this product.


Post# 171797 , Reply# 43   3/3/2012 at 22:31 (2,951 days old) by billybud21 ()        

Is it necessary, no. Is it one of those cool things to have -- in this case if your house has a central vacuum -- yes. I can remember how my parents just belittled people with power windows, locks, seats, etc. in their cars; then they bought a car that had the power accessories and ever car since has had to them. Moral of the story, you don't know if you can live with out it until you have it.

I actually saw a video for a central vac accessory that allows you to use "Zip-Lock" bags as vacuum sealed bags.


Post# 172119 , Reply# 44   3/6/2012 at 03:34 (2,949 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

The "Drain Vac" would not work for me-cannot envision my septic tank as a "vacuum bag"I would rather put vacuum cleaner waste in the trash.

Post# 172395 , Reply# 45   3/7/2012 at 17:52 (2,947 days old) by MysteryManBob (New Port Richey,FL)        

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you may as well put internet in a toaster.

Post# 172435 , Reply# 46   3/7/2012 at 22:29 (2,947 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Wichita, KS)        
internet in a toaster.

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Not yet, but you can buy a wi-fi enabled refrigerator at Sear's. I think it was a Samsung.

Post# 172697 , Reply# 47   3/9/2012 at 18:39 (2,945 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

I've NEVER touched a dustpan, & NEVER will. Only a vac is what I ALWAYS use.

Mops, buckets, brooms & dustpans are OUTDATED! :P

btw, I'll use a rag or a wet/dry hand-held vac to clean the kitchen or bathroom counters.

Totalvac, welcome to the VCCC!


Post# 172759 , Reply# 48   3/10/2012 at 10:02 (2,944 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Maybe I'm too old but I still like using a dust pan and brush - far quicker - and lets be honest - you can't exactly vacuum up cat excrement if you have an old cat who has forgotten where their cat litter trays is -and the dustpan/brush can be washed afterwards.

Post# 172760 , Reply# 49   3/10/2012 at 10:05 (2,944 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Forgot to say, I have quite a few different sets catered for different cleaning needs - the cat litter dust pan & brush, a tiny little brush pan and set for quick kitchen pick ups and a general dust pan and brush that admittedly looks brand new, despite being 5 years old when there are so many vacuums in the home!




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