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Post# 170359   2/21/2012 at 13:37 (4,418 days old) by GM1982 ()   |   | |
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What are your impressions of the Aerus Guardian Upright? |
Post# 170373 , Reply# 2   2/21/2012 at 16:00 (4,418 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 170388 , Reply# 3   2/21/2012 at 17:57 (4,418 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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I would rather buy a miele not riccar or aerus. I might be 20 but in my 20 years ive seen the bad and good |
Post# 170391 , Reply# 4   2/21/2012 at 18:15 (4,418 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 170396 , Reply# 6   2/21/2012 at 19:36 (4,418 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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I think you should check out the Aerus website . The machines are 100% white blue has been gone for at least two years . The Guardian Ultra has replaced the Guardian and the chunky HEPA filter is gone . I love metal vacuums but we all know customers complain about them being heavy and getting dented if dropped down the stairs . The newest Kirby coming out will also be plastic . It`s sad but metal vacuums are a thing of the past . Aerus is the same company it always was it`s just that Eureka took back the name once the real Electrolux (Aerus) built the reliable vacuum name . Eureka in Europe has always been called Electrolux here in the US they used the name Eureka . Now Eureka is trying to pawn off the Electrolux name here in the US as if they are the original Elactrolux now known as Aerus . They tell that lie while selling the Eurekaluxes on QVC .
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Post# 170397 , Reply# 7   2/21/2012 at 19:49 (4,418 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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How do you know the new kirby is gonna be plastic |
Post# 170400 , Reply# 8   2/21/2012 at 19:54 (4,418 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 170404 , Reply# 10   2/21/2012 at 20:03 (4,418 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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no one own`s the newest Aerus vacuums as they have been improved with more powerful motors .
They clean very well now and are very light and easy to use . Owning Aerus (Electrolux) plastic machines since the 80`s and many of my family members own Aerus and not one of us ever had any of the plastic crack or break . Long lasting , powerful , quality built machines made in the USA . |
Post# 170407 , Reply# 11   2/21/2012 at 20:16 (4,418 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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Still dont care for them |
Post# 170417 , Reply# 13   2/21/2012 at 21:03 (4,418 days old) by danemodsandy ()   |   | |
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The Guardian 9000 canister. Just never understood what possessed Aerus on this one - the styling wasn't handsome, and that two-tone blue was dead cheap-looking: |
Post# 170421 , Reply# 15   2/21/2012 at 21:30 (4,418 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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I dont like stores closing but there vacuums are cheaply made never will buy one yuck |
Post# 170427 , Reply# 16   2/21/2012 at 22:00 (4,418 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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100% with you Erik .
Josh that`s a very childish remark especially if you dont own any of the newest Aerus vacuums . I thought this was supposed to be a discussion site not a bash a brand I hate site . Sandy I always liked the old style Guardian I guess thats why we have so many brands to choose from . |
Post# 170430 , Reply# 17   2/21/2012 at 22:31 (4,418 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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I went to the AERUS site, too, and downloaded the pdf Owner Manuals for the three canisters.
What I find interesting is that the re-design is in fact a resurrection of the pre-Renaisance style body of the 1984 2100, right down to the bumper strips that wrap around on to the bag cover and motor/cord-reel cover cap.
The two lower tier models - Classic and Legacy - use the same basic filter pad over the exhaust port as every plastic body Luxs dating back to Canada's AP series from 1973. The Legacy has exposed tool storage on the slightly raised filter cover. The top of the line Guardian Ultra uses the same body as the others but adds a much larger HEPA filter under a humped hinged lid.
Basically, the same reliable Electrolux cylinder as always...sheathed in high quality plastics...with improved motor. Electrolux body molds have always been of a robust wall thickness and I don't recall ever seeing a cracked one because the formula they use has a flexible vinyl component same as GE's CYCOLAC..
What AERUS/Electrolux has done runs contrary to modern business canon - abandoning the Renaissance, they returned to a form factor that served them well for decades, rather than jump on the latest fad wagon.. And no, they could not be saving $ using the old tooling - those dies & molds would be well worn out years ago. At least they did away with the afterthought stick-on HEPA box of the last Renaissance. I would like to add the first Renaissance with the blue trim to my collection some day - I like the smooth Typhoon submarine looks.
Dave - Electrolux first and foremost. |
Post# 170432 , Reply# 18   2/21/2012 at 22:35 (4,418 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 170433 , Reply# 19   2/21/2012 at 22:58 (4,418 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 170434 , Reply# 20   2/21/2012 at 23:00 (4,418 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 170465 , Reply# 22   2/22/2012 at 08:17 (4,417 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I think many of you have this Electrolux/Eureka corporate thing backwards.
Sweden's Electrolux invented the name and the canister vac concept and provided North America with Electrolux vacs up until the American division cut its ties with Europe when Consolidated Foods bought it in 1968. Sweden's Electrolux bought Eureka Williams in 1974, at which point Eureka became just one of Electroluxes many worldwide brandnames, along with Frigidaire, Progress, Volta and Zanussi. Eureka does not own Electrolux, it's the other way around. In 2000, Sweden's Electrolux bought back the right to use it's own name in North America, but allowed the North American division to keep using the name until 2007. Since 2007, it has been illegal for any other company in America to use the Electrolux name, and I think that is completely logical. The entire world knows Electrolux as a Swedish appliance company, not a door-to-door power nozzle canister vac maker. Since 1968, these have been two totally independent companies. The only commonality was the combination dusting brush+upholstery nozzle sold by both. I understand the nostalgic fondness for the quality vacuum cleaners produced by the American and Canadian Electrolux companies between 1968 and 2000, but they were in essence only borrowing a name from a Swedish company whose roots in the vac business go far deeper than the North American companies. They had a right to do with their name whatever they wish. They could have bought the North American vac plants and designs in 2000 as well, but they chose not to since they already had bought a company with a much larger market share (Eureka). If there is anything to lament, it is not the removal of the Electrolux name from the cylinder vacs Americans have come to love. It is the almost total disappearance of the Eureka Company at the hands of the Swedish company. The Eureka name we see now is but a childish-looking label on very cheap vacs made overseas. The least Electrolux could have done is left the Eureka name on all those classic Sanitaire vacs. If you really want to bring some life and innovation back to the company that's now called Aerus, Aerus should change it's name to "Lux North America" and should fully integrate with Europe's Lux International and then you might see vacs like this in the Aerus stores: CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 170482 , Reply# 25   2/22/2012 at 12:09 (4,417 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 170518 , Reply# 27   2/22/2012 at 14:39 (4,417 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Hey there Venson! See the link below for the global picture of Lux International - it shows Aerus as part of their global "partnerships."
Lux International was originally the direct sales/door-to-door division of Sweden's Electrolux. The division was sold to a Swiss company, and now operates independently of Sweden's Electrolux. Indeed the large Indian Eureka Forbes Group is part of Lux International. I guess they somehow got away with buying the rights to the Eureka name for use outside of North America! :-) CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 170546 , Reply# 30   2/22/2012 at 18:24 (4,417 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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There not gonna make metal the only 2 canisters that are all metal or air tech and metro . Which i like |
Post# 170561 , Reply# 33   2/22/2012 at 21:18 (4,417 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)   |   | |
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I never knew that the European Lux and Aerus were related! Knowing this, there are somethings I don't understand.
First of all, Aerus is using a quite outdated power-nozzle while Lux is using a very modern looking one. From what I have used and heard, European power nozzles, such as Sebo, Wessel Werk and Lindhaus, are better than American models. Why does Aerus continue with older Electrolux nozzles? Secondly, Aerus is selling all these home products, such as air purifiers and heaters, that are manufactured by other companies. Riccar sells the exact same heater as Aerus. It looks to me that Lux is selling original products. Lux has for sale as much different air purifier. Now I don't know if it is an original Lux product, but why can't the same company sell the same products? To me the Lux product lines looks much more appealing, even to Americans. Does anyone have any idea why Aerus is not progressing at the same rate? |
Post# 170807 , Reply# 38   2/24/2012 at 16:48 (4,415 days old) by petek (Ontario)   |   | |
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The Sidekick was also produced as the Kenmore Powermate Jr. back in the 90's, identical except for the molding around the electrical connection to fit the Kenmore. |
Post# 170808 , Reply# 39   2/24/2012 at 16:57 (4,415 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Sweden's Electrolux is also now selling an electrically powered mini power nozzle which fits on most of their power nozzle canisters in North America. It's called the "@hand" power brush....see link below:
CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 170811 , Reply# 40   2/24/2012 at 17:33 (4,415 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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The SideKick was also known as a RainbowMate (except the RM has a pigtail cord & no snap-lock mechanism) SideKick II is also a TriStar MiniStar. |
Post# 170815 , Reply# 41   2/24/2012 at 17:57 (4,415 days old) by danemodsandy ()   |   | |
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"SideKick II is also a TriStar MiniStar." That makes sense, since Aerus and TriStar are owned by the same company. |
Post# 170818 , Reply# 42   2/24/2012 at 18:42 (4,415 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 170823 , Reply# 43   2/24/2012 at 18:55 (4,415 days old) by petek (Ontario)   |   | |
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Hmmmm didn't know that. I've got a Powermate version but I've never opened it up |
Post# 170829 , Reply# 44   2/24/2012 at 20:30 (4,415 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 170831 , Reply# 45   2/24/2012 at 20:33 (4,415 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Post# 170835 , Reply# 46   2/24/2012 at 20:43 (4,415 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 170838 , Reply# 47   2/24/2012 at 21:01 (4,415 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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I've owned many different machines over the years, I haven't been alive as long as some other members of this club or had as many vacs, but never the less I have owned many high-end machines. Miele's are fabulous machines, Kirby is my #1 choice for an upright, I'll never live without one and my VacuFlo system beats any portable/traditional vacuum I've had, but sometimes you just want to use a regular machine. With that said I have always owned an Aerus/Electrolux machine and they are the one I go back to again and again. They may not be the best at deep cleaning or filter as well as a Miele, but they last for many years and they are easy to use. Miele isn't necessarily difficult to use, at least not for people like us, but for the average person they can certainly be a bit complicated. A new Aerus machine may not be my number 1 choice if I was in the market for a new machine, but if they improved the current Guardian canister I just might change my mind. The Electrolux tank style machines and their L-shaped power nozzles are a tried and true design that makes them easy to use and steer around the house, and for me that makes using an Electrolux more enjoyable than any other canister vacs.
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Post# 170908 , Reply# 50   2/25/2012 at 13:40 (4,414 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I have used the Lindhaus Power Nozzles. They are very well built. The only thing I didn't like was there is a lot of dead space on the underneath side and I don't think they can edge clean as well, due to this. I do like the weight of the power nozzle, it has enough weight to groom the carpet well, without just gliding across the carpet.
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Post# 170936 , Reply# 51   2/25/2012 at 19:41 (4,414 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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@Venson,
I think you may have misunderstood my post about the Electrolux L-shaped power nozzle. I wasn't implying that they are the only machine with that style nozzle, its just been a very recognizable feature of Electrolux/Aerus machines since it was introduced about 30 years ago on the Silverado. I agree with you about the Miele power nozzle though, I had the 236 PN on my Red Velvet and it was probably one of the best I've ever used. As far as the Lindhaus power nozzle goes, I really hate it. Please don't take offense to that, we all don’t love the same machines or accessories, which is what makes this club so interesting. I purchased the residential version, the PB14E brand new several years ago and I'm just glad I didn’t pay the full retail price. The Lindhaus is well made and for the most part it is very well thought out. However, for me if it doesn't clean well then it doesn’t matter how well constructed it may be. The brush roll is just awful considering the price of this p/n, and for all the time and money that must have been spent designing it they really missed the most important part of the entire nozzle, a well-designed high performance brush roll. Electrolux power nozzles certainly aren’t the best out there but I'll take a Lux PN over all the Lindhaus' electronic features, as the Lux can certainly clean much better than the Lindhaus. |
Post# 170953 , Reply# 52   2/25/2012 at 21:22 (4,414 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 170963 , Reply# 56   2/25/2012 at 22:44 (4,414 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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@danemodsandy
I haven't used the very latest power nozzle from the Guardian Ultra, although I don’t know what has changed about it other than the LED headlight, but I have used those that came right before it. The Lux PN has improved since the DJ PN5 but I don’t know if its so much that the nozzle was "redesigned" as I personally haven't noticed that there is a marked significant difference between the internal structure of the different power nozzles. What does make a very noticeable and welcomed difference is the improved brush roll. Electrolux/Aerus improved the brush roll several years back by adding an extra "turn" to the chevron style roller, which added a significant amount of extra bristles. As far as I know this new brush roll can be used in all PN's from the PN5 up to the most current models. Below is a picture of the new and old brush rolls. The one on top that is in the PN to my Epic 6000 is the new style brush roll, the one below is the old style which came out of my Renaissance circa 1994. I hope you are able to see the difference between the two, its much more noticeable in person. BTW I have noticed your posts recently about your Tri-Star on this thread and a few others, and it really looks wonderful. I remember reading a few years ago about all the trouble you went through and buying parts from Tri-Star in Canada to restore it to like new condition. I've never used a Tri-Star before but it has certainly made me want to buy one :) |
Post# 170964 , Reply# 57   2/25/2012 at 23:01 (4,414 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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Venson, I use the Lindhaus with my VacuFlo 566Q central vac but its hardly been used in the past two years and just collects dust in a closet now. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree, as no one vac is a perfect fit for everyone.
You mentioned a Eureka power nozzle or clone of one, now you are talking! The Eureka Express power nozzle that has been used under different private labels and by several central vac companies, is a fantastic p/n. The VG3 brush roll does a great job cleaning carpets, it really digs the dirt out of the rug. And, its a straight foward and simple to use design. I have been using the Express power nozzle with my vac system which came from my mom's blue Eureka Express canister that she bought new in 1986. After 25 years though, the motor needs to be replaced but haven't gotten around to buying a new one yet. |
Post# 170970 , Reply# 59   2/26/2012 at 00:22 (4,414 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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Sandy, did you install a VG2 brush roll in your Tri-Star power nozzle. I know you have been a member of the forum for a long time and over the years there have been many discussions about converting the Tri-Star p/n to use the Eureka brush roll. Some seem to swear by the VG2 conversion and others prefer the original brush roll. Just curious to know if you changed yours and if it makes a noticable difference in cleaning performance.
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Post# 170975 , Reply# 60   2/26/2012 at 04:58 (4,414 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 170986 , Reply# 63   2/26/2012 at 07:51 (4,414 days old) by venson ()   |   | |
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Hi Bud, Thanks much for the info. Venson |
Post# 171118 , Reply# 66   2/27/2012 at 14:35 (4,412 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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I would so buy one of those Lux Intelligence machines..Is than an actual braided hose on that machine..Looks like it is in the picture |