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Post# 159846   11/23/2011 at 13:15 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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A rather mysterious looking package arrived at my house this morning.

Post# 159847 , Reply# 1   11/23/2011 at 13:17 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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But what could it be?...OH YES. My new in box, never opened Goblin Laser upright, thats what! At this stage, I had absolutely no idea which model of Laser was inside the box...IMAGINE THE EXCITEMENT!

Post# 159849 , Reply# 2   11/23/2011 at 13:18 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Model number and other details

Post# 159850 , Reply# 3   11/23/2011 at 13:19 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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It's.....


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RED!!!


Post# 159851 , Reply# 4   11/23/2011 at 13:21 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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So, I'm not sure of the exact year, but I know it's a later model as the earlier ones were all grey. The manual also notes another machine which has the in-built Turbopower style tools instead of the on-board attachable hose. These style of Laser didn't come out until around 1994/95.

Post# 159852 , Reply# 5   11/23/2011 at 13:22 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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tools and handle.

Post# 159853 , Reply# 6   11/23/2011 at 13:24 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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fold-out manual. There was also a spare bag and 2 year free guarantee card included with the paper work

Post# 159854 , Reply# 7   11/23/2011 at 13:25 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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and finally....et voila! The full kit!

Post# 159856 , Reply# 8   11/23/2011 at 13:39 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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A bit of history for those who don't know - Goblin in the UK have mostly been a budget brand since the 1970's. The Laser series was launched in the early 1990's (at the same time as the new style Rio cylinders) to replace the old Commander uprights. In terms of design, the machine is not that different from the commander at all. Both are dirty fan designs are relatively similar. The main difference is the appearance and the style in which the hose attaches. They retails from between £60 - £90 depending on retailer/model. The first Lasers were these 2 from 1992 - a softbag with optional tools, and a hardbag with built in tools (although both require the tools to be attached, they are not intergrated). The attachable tool caddy was available to purchase from Goblin separately on models which did not include this. I remember my Dad's cousin having the softbag version, but with on board tools.

Post# 159858 , Reply# 9   11/23/2011 at 13:43 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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So I've had a bit of chance to use it now, and as far as a cheap upright goes, it's not half bad! It has very strong suction as an upright and an ok brushroll. It also does a pretty good job on laminate floors. The hose suction is pretty poor though, but certainly no worse than the turbopower's. The cleaner is very light to lift and manoeuvre, which I imagine is why it would have appealed to the older generation at the time.

The plastic is dreadfully cheap, but it's not brittle like the turbopower was. It's much more flexible. I swear, it's made of play dough! The bag door is a bit of a nightmare, as you really have to squash it down and mould the plastic yourself to get the thing to shut.


Post# 159860 , Reply# 10   11/23/2011 at 13:45 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Date wise, it's probably from around 94 - 96. I do remember seeing one in this colour at someones house when I was little, but I remember they had the tool caddy on the back. The age of the cleaner means it ties in perfectly with my boxed Goblin Rio from the same time. If only the Rio was red...

Post# 159861 , Reply# 11   11/23/2011 at 13:45 (4,509 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        
Nice!

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So cool, and mint as well, why has it never been opened?

Post# 159862 , Reply# 12   11/23/2011 at 13:46 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I have no idea. It was found in someone's Nan's loft, just shoved in a corner.

Post# 159863 , Reply# 13   11/23/2011 at 13:46 (4,509 days old) by Jakesvacs ()        
Not everday

you get to have a NIB Goblin laser! Great find!

Post# 159864 , Reply# 14   11/23/2011 at 13:48 (4,509 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        
Oh wow!

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I'm guessing it works like a charm?

Post# 159866 , Reply# 15   11/23/2011 at 13:48 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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It certainly does.

Well, as "charm like" as a Goblin Laser ever got lol


Post# 159868 , Reply# 16   11/23/2011 at 13:51 (4,509 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        

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As popular as a Hoover Turbopower, I doubt!

Post# 159872 , Reply# 17   11/23/2011 at 13:57 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I wouldn't quite have said that. The Turbopower was britain's best selling vacuum for the best part of 10 years, replaced by the Panasonic 40 series in the early 1990's briefly and then by the DC01. However, they were popular due to them being inexpensive at not bad vacuums (although they're certainly nothing special, especially when compared with the Turbopowers and Electrolux Contour series of the time). As average as they were, the Laser and Rio had their market. I remember a fair few of these around from when I was little, but few seem to have survived to today. I think with Turbopowers and other more high-end vacuums, people took care of them and got them repaired if anything went wrong. Whereas the Laser, I imagine, was purchased as a knowingly budget vacuum that one would just through out if it broke. Kind of like the equivalent of an Argos Value upright today.

Post# 159873 , Reply# 18   11/23/2011 at 14:01 (4,509 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        
Pah to Argos Value!

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Prices yes but quality? I wouldn't touch a AV vacuum with a barge pole!

Post# 159875 , Reply# 19   11/23/2011 at 14:04 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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^Actually, I used the basic bagged Argos Value upright recently as was pleasantly surprised. I was expecting a pile of rubbish, but it wasn't half bad. The hose was a bit naff and it was quite small, but it's performance was ok. Certainly on a par with my Mum's Electrolux Powerlite upright and far better than the Hoover Purepower's. I wouldn't touch the bagless one - nasty clogging filter mess! Having said that, I wouldn't touch any bagless vacuum lol.

Post# 159888 , Reply# 20   11/23/2011 at 16:11 (4,509 days old) by baglessball ()        

Ooh, got have me some dyson! I like seeing the muck!

What is the suction at the hose like? I used a couple of these when I was younger, but no body had tools for them!
They are no turbo power! :)


Post# 159890 , Reply# 21   11/23/2011 at 16:18 (4,509 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Ooh, got have me some dyson! I like seeing the muck!

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You do realise, you could pick up more with another brand of vacuum and just empty out and examine the contents of the bag if you're really that bothered? But anyway, thats a discussion for another time. We don't do bagless in this house :P

Suction on the hose is certainly poor, but no worse than the Turbopower's hose suction. I'd also say that the Laser's tool setup is easier to use than the Turbo's as there is no pan converter. The setup is similar to the Moulinex Major with the slot on the head of the machine.

I'd say floor suction is possibly almost as strong as the Turbo's, but it obviously doesn't have the activator brushroll or adjustable height settings that the TP's had and therefore doesn't clean as well.


Post# 159899 , Reply# 22   11/23/2011 at 17:00 (4,509 days old) by baglessball ()        

Haha! But that would waste good bags! :D

I liked the side sweepers on the laser, if I can remember it's plastic is more flexible compared to the TP, it shows stress marks but it isn't as brittle?

Moulinex master was my first project! Well, I sat and watches my dad unblock one he had picked up for me at work.. After begging him to let me take it home!


Post# 160021 , Reply# 23   11/24/2011 at 15:22 (4,508 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Moulinex Master blockages

That's interesting, I heard that too.

I never liked Goblin: too cheap 'n' nasty for me - and I tried one. It was a hard-bag red Commander, but couldn't suck the grit out the carpet.

No, Hoover was THE upright cleaner to remove grit. It's pity they're not what they were. Makes you wonder who the nut-jobs are that are running the vacuum cleaner division.


Post# 160092 , Reply# 24   11/25/2011 at 06:35 (4,507 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Rolls, I agree about Hoover being THE upright for carpet cleaning. However, the activator brushroll had a lot to do with that. The suction on the laser is pretty good, but let down slightly by and under performing brushroll. It's a very average vacuum, but deffo still worthy of a place in a collection

Post# 230703 , Reply# 25   4/30/2013 at 16:02 (3,985 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Look at the instruction manual where it says goblin spares - look on the bottom of that page, if I see right it says 4/96. That should be the proper date for the vacuum. It's a key thing for Goblin & MR vacs, the instructions books always have the date on.

Post# 230932 , Reply# 26   5/2/2013 at 11:58 (3,983 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Lovely laser! I remember them well, and Dad's Rio, which I got given when it was pretty much scrap! Is the upright as loud and ear-shatteringly high pitched as the Rio is?

Were did the lasers fit in with other bagged uprights of that era? I presume Hoover were on the TP1 and TP2 crossover period, Panasonic were churning out the same upright they do today, just with a 900w motor, Hitachi were around and was the Lux Boss sold as early as that? Struggling to remember what else would have been out, got the department store in my head but not clear enough to remember.


Post# 230952 , Reply# 27   5/2/2013 at 15:42 (3,983 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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What a find! It reminds me of my other favourite upright that I never got to try - the Electrolux Z410.

Post# 231144 , Reply# 28   5/4/2013 at 03:33 (3,981 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        
beko1987

No, the Electrolux Boss started selling around 2000 but i'm sure this laser is around 1996, the time when Panasonics were as you said still churning out a better version of todays vac, hitachi were doing the powerhouses, Vax also sold uprights around this era, too & don't forget about Dysons, they released the Destijl around this time I think.

Post# 231346 , Reply# 29   5/5/2013 at 17:44 (3,980 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The Electrolux Boss was out in 2001 but under different guises with the "Minimite" model -this is really where the model numbers help rather than the name as they are tons of different "boss" models. Later in 2003, the first wave of Electrolux Boss successor models came out, the B3105, B3115 in yellow and blue.

Also see previous thread on here regarding these mini 2litre/2.5 litre dust bag fitted models www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...

www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-... also shows off upright vacuum scans as well as info regarding the Goblin Rio

Yours truly owned an Electrolux Boss B4111 in 2003. A brilliant cylinder vacuum cleaner and very much made in the same kind of layout as the Hoover Telios, another favourite cylinder vac of mine.



Post# 231348 , Reply# 30   5/5/2013 at 17:54 (3,980 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Boss

It depends on the model. The Boss z1080 here was from 1999:

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Post# 231349 , Reply# 31   5/5/2013 at 17:56 (3,980 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Cylinder Boss

This one was also from 1999:



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Post# 231352 , Reply# 32   5/5/2013 at 18:02 (3,980 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        
I used to own...

An Electrolux Minimite Superlite, we bought it new in 2001 for our caravan. After our last caravaning holiday in 2003 I took it out & kept it. Namely that was my first ever vacuum cleaner I owned, that's why the Electrolux name has a place in my heart. Can't remember what happened to it.

Talking of the Electrolux Bosses, my nan gave me her Photo Blue Boss Filtaire in 2008 & I only used it a handful of times, perhaps the best Electrolux I've ever used. Great brush roll, great tools, great suction.

These are my 2 fav Electroluxes, shamefully when we had our original Minimite Superlite bags were so difficult to source we ended up buying some from Wilkos & cutting them to fit.


Post# 231361 , Reply# 33   5/5/2013 at 18:39 (3,980 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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The one you've sent a link there to the vacuum dust bags, VR is the one I knocked back for a Hoover Microspace. I loved that little Microspace - a U.S model I believe originally. Had it for a few years before selling it to a lady who needed it for her caravan. Also had an Electrolux 965 Minilite as Hi-Lo says.

Didn't ever like the main floor head that came with it though.


Post# 231364 , Reply# 34   5/5/2013 at 18:46 (3,980 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Before this cleaner, there were three black cylinder cleaners. All had a round press button in the middle and on the top of the range machine the button was also a dial for variable motor speed. The user would need to fold down the carry handle to one side then press down onto it to activate the automatic cordwinder.

Post# 231366 , Reply# 35   5/5/2013 at 18:51 (3,980 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Here it is:

Post# 231405 , Reply# 36   5/5/2013 at 23:20 (3,979 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Yep I remember that one well - it had a pesky filtration door that could fly off if it didn't lock down properly and a light grey variable suction control dial. Designed to mimic the wonderful and larger Mondo E and its upgraded variants with the slider suction control.

Post# 231419 , Reply# 37   5/6/2013 at 03:12 (3,979 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Was there a green model of that style cylinder Electrolux?

Post# 231422 , Reply# 38   5/6/2013 at 03:55 (3,979 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        
Talking of Mondo's...

Nan gave me her Electrolux Mondo Plus Cylinder in about 2005, she didn't like cylinders so I don't know why she bought it, but anyway she gave it to me & I loved it, despite the lack of Suction Power, should have been more. I've posted the link below. What was weird though normal Electrolux Mondo Bags didn't fit but the ones that Boss Cylinders used did!

It was my second favourite machine, after the Minimite Superlite. I like the fact that with the Mini you get 4 Proper Sized Extension Tubes, I guessed they wanted to sell the vacuum as one that you use as a second vacuum, ie above floor/stairs. Not for flooring.


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Post# 231450 , Reply# 39   5/6/2013 at 10:10 (3,979 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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That's because the one you show is the Mondo that replaced the excellent series beforehand. Those ones didn't have the tool storage flat on the front, but rather a thick plastic PVC holder that could either hold three or four cleaning tools clipped to the hose. I had a Z2305 "light blue" one as well but god it was awful - the slightest bit of dirt on the "flush" wheels meant they could stick whilst the plastic quality was worlds away from the heavier and more robust Mondo series before it.

Hi-lo - check the previous thread regarding Electrolux Mondo cylinder vacs -

www.vacuumland.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-...



Post# 231457 , Reply# 40   5/6/2013 at 11:21 (3,979 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Were did the lasers fit in with other bagged uprights of tha

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The Laser's were out about 1990/91 to replace the Commander uprights. The original design consisted of a base model soft bag, soft bag with on board tools, standard hardbag and TOL hadbag with on board tools. These early models needed the hose to be removed from the toolcaddy and plugged into the hose port.

They were on sale as late as 1998, albeit in a very basic form with no tools.

Here is a pic of the first style Laser


Post# 231458 , Reply# 41   5/6/2013 at 11:25 (3,979 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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There were a million different styles and colour schemes. Later models added a proper built in hose with a suction diverter (similar to a Turbopower TS). There was also a bagless model (pictured below) that worked in a similar way to the Hoover Turbopower and Turbomaster Freedom models

Post# 231466 , Reply# 42   5/6/2013 at 12:21 (3,979 days old) by hi-loswitch98 ()        

Even though the suction was bad on the Mondo, I still liked it. And in the previous thread (your link) that was the Mondo you reviewed on Ciao!

Post# 231524 , Reply# 43   5/6/2013 at 19:24 (3,979 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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It was but over time one is allowed to change their minds and the reviews can be updated as you know.

Post# 362583 , Reply# 44   11/20/2016 at 13:24 (2,685 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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some more Goblin laser info here folks.

First up, the TV advert


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Post# 362584 , Reply# 45   11/20/2016 at 13:25 (2,685 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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1991 Brochure

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Post# 362585 , Reply# 46   11/20/2016 at 13:30 (2,685 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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1994 Brochure

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