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Post# 158790   11/12/2011 at 15:40 (4,542 days old) by Jakesvacs ()        

Do they have outter and inner cyclones? I cant quite tell?
When i tried the cyclone yellow version at a holiday home i found them to be very good and they pick up quite well


Post# 158793 , Reply# 1   11/12/2011 at 15:51 (4,542 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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The Vortex/Hurricane story is a heck of a story!

When the early vortex models came out (the red and white ones and the Vortex power in blue and black), they used a high efficiency dust separation cyclone like a Dyson. However, it infringed on Dysons patent and Dyson sued Hoover over the design, meaning they could no longer produce Vortex machines of that design. Hoover scrapped the high efficiency cyclone design and rebadged the machines as "Hurricane" and stuck a low efficiency, direct filter cyclone it. A great shame, as I found the Vortex to be much higher performing than the DC01 and DC03, but it was a complete rip off of the DC01's cyclone


Post# 158805 , Reply# 2   11/12/2011 at 17:34 (4,542 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        

The Hoover Triple Vortex was not quite the same as the Dyson DC01.

The Dyson had two cyclone stages. The Hoover had a recycling concentrator stage between the two "Dyson" stages.

The Court found that the mid-stage did not deposit dust, so was similar in concept to Dyson's patent.

The white Hoover Triple Vortex was actually a very pale grey with aubergine and orange trim. It had foam filters initially, that let dust through. On sale from Easter 1999.

The red Triple Vortex had an S-Class pleated exhaust filter, on sale from September of that year.

The pale grey version was later sold with a better exhaust filter. There was also a Whirlwind model in pale grey with black trim and manual flex storage; a yellow Cyclone model; a blue Cyclean model (had polythene "bin liners" for hygienic dust disposal).

The court case happened, the Triple Vortex was discontinued and Hoover launched the Vortex Power along with the Hurricane:

the Vortex Power had about the same suction as the DC04, the Hurricane had suction similar to the DC07. Both used pleated filters in the bin.


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Post# 158812 , Reply# 3   11/12/2011 at 18:20 (4,542 days old) by baglessball ()        

I loved the suction on the hurricane, it was a beast to push and pull> At least until a few rooms in and then the filter was blocked and it easy glided everywhere..

The vortex i liked, but its suction was a little naff. It was easier to empty than the DC01, but as the shroud was smaller in diameter than the dyson's and hidden, many peple i know who had them didnt clean them and burnt out there motors.

Personally i preferred the DC01 with the non-swivel sole plate to the vortex. Easy to use the tools, didnt fall over. Quicker to maintain and stuck to the floor! Loves it!


Post# 158815 , Reply# 4   11/12/2011 at 18:28 (4,542 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
stuck to the floor...

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I don't know what DC01's you were using, but I personally found the suction of the DC01 to be severely underwhelming. Coupled with a poorly designed brushroll (which is still one of my biggest annoyances with Dyson 18 years on), it made for a very average performing machine, especially compared with other vacuums on the market at the time. My Panasonic MC-E553 from 1996 has WAY more suction power than any DC01 I've ever used.

Post# 158817 , Reply# 5   11/12/2011 at 18:49 (4,542 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        

The DC01 (& DC03) could only generate 90 Air Watts of suction power, similar to the Hoover Triple Vortex.

Post# 158823 , Reply# 6   11/12/2011 at 21:32 (4,542 days old) by ozhoover (London UK (but born and raised in Melbourne, Australia ))        

Heres a couple of pictures of the models I have collected while living in the London, also have the both the first two Triple Vortex in gray and red new in box back in storage in OZ, I just loved the look of these machines.

Mark


Post# 158824 , Reply# 7   11/12/2011 at 21:39 (4,542 days old) by ozhoover (London UK (but born and raised in Melbourne, Australia ))        

pic 2

The Hurricane of the left while it looks black in the pic is british racing green and like the Cyclean on the left has glitter effect.....

Mark


Post# 158837 , Reply# 8   11/13/2011 at 04:55 (4,542 days old) by Jakesvacs ()        
Thats the cyclone!

Thats the one i tried, i loved it. I found that it worked really well for a hoover and must have been some compition to dyson. I have also never ever seen a dc01 lift a carpet. Only ever was the side where the suction goes in on a rubber mat lifted it about half an inch.
However the Dc01 is my favourite model and i have nearlly all models: De stijl, standerd and blue.
P.S if anyone does not have a vortex or hoover cyclone they dont want anymore i will pay a reasonable price.


Post# 158838 , Reply# 9   11/13/2011 at 05:24 (4,542 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I wish I could get one of those hoovers here, I have one dc01 and its ok but I think many of the bagged vacuums of its time had better suction . Hoovers have always cleaned carpets better than any of these competition


Post# 158841 , Reply# 10   11/13/2011 at 06:27 (4,542 days old) by Jakesvacs ()        
Dc01s

Their motors have a huge part in it i think. The ones with YDK motors in seam alot more powerful compared to the ametek ones. My standerd and blue dc01 have the ydk motors and are deffinatly more powerful the de stijl with YDK. The Ametek are quieter and have a nice sound to them but some videos bring out an ear pircing sound.

Post# 158843 , Reply# 11   11/13/2011 at 07:43 (4,542 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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dc01 &o4

 

the ametek motors outlast the ydk by miles though

 


Post# 158850 , Reply# 12   11/13/2011 at 10:25 (4,541 days old) by parwaz786 ( )        
dyson and hoover

i had 5 dc01 standards 1 ametekl 5 ydks the ydk has more power there fore cleans much more better and well
my Cousin used to have a white hoover triple vortex -it was broken but ti was quiet i think and very good the brush stopped turning but suction was okay i believe


Post# 158855 , Reply# 13   11/13/2011 at 10:44 (4,541 days old) by baglessball ()        

The first first first DC01's? With the different mechanism to hold the machine upright? Slightly shorter more flexible hose? Non swivel sole plate that seal more suction into the floor? its great!

The good thing i like about a DC01 (and dyson machines without a clutch is) is the triple row brushroll.

Also worn DC01's lose suction where the head pivots, to the point where it no longer seals and loads of air is sucked in the, rather than been directed to the floor head.. Make sense?


Post# 158857 , Reply# 14   11/13/2011 at 10:58 (4,541 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        
First DC01

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Was The DA001. Made about 1992 in the first Dyson factory in Chippenam. It had the older style logo on it. I had a Dyson DC01 whick I believe was made between the DA001 and the first DC01's, as there were parts with different Dyson logos on. I sold mine for £10. Still have a DC01.

Like Jake, I would like one of these Hoovers but the has the priority as he asked first. They look DC03ish as they are wider than usual. Just a tad though.

Jacob


Post# 158866 , Reply# 15   11/13/2011 at 11:27 (4,541 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

I would also love one of those first dysons!
Still on lookout for a vortex!!


Post# 158867 , Reply# 16   11/13/2011 at 11:31 (4,541 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        
Jake

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I'm selling some of my vacs, in a thread called Dyson DC04 Des Stijl For Sale

Post# 158870 , Reply# 17   11/13/2011 at 11:40 (4,541 days old) by baglessball ()        

I am serviving one of the DA001's at the minute! (thanks for the info suctier!!)

I have seen a hoover vortex on sale on ebay recently!! Check it out!


Post# 158872 , Reply# 18   11/13/2011 at 11:41 (4,541 days old) by baglessball ()        

*suction selecter

Post# 158873 , Reply# 19   11/13/2011 at 11:42 (4,541 days old) by jakesvacs ()        
Also

The vents in the cleaner head also was a motor vent.

Post# 158875 , Reply# 20   11/13/2011 at 11:44 (4,541 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England)        
baglessball

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Where on eBay?

Can you post a link?

Thanks

Jacob


Post# 158876 , Reply# 21   11/13/2011 at 11:44 (4,541 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

Was it the black one? I have seen 2 hurricanes but after a vortex??

Post# 158883 , Reply# 22   11/13/2011 at 12:14 (4,541 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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It was broken , brush stopped turning

 

I always laugh and find it so funny , people will go out and buy a new vacuum as the old one is broken, the brush stopped turning. if people bothered to read the instruction book they would know its a cheap belt not a whole new machine


Post# 158886 , Reply# 23   11/13/2011 at 12:35 (4,541 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

The amount of vacs i have had to repair for just family because of a broken belt i could count into 20s.


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