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Post# 149520   8/30/2011 at 06:18 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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What makes of vacuum are still made in the USA

I used to have a Eureka Ultra smart vac ( badged as Electrolux here ) which was a lovely machine made in the USA, I used to follow all the manufacturers closely but over the last 5-6 years have not had much time unless I dealt directly with them.

I know that Hoover and Royal were bought by TTIis this a chinese owned firm ?

Does Eureka still manufacture in the states.

Most vacuum assembly lines here have close too, Electrolux manufactures one locally designed shopvac model here using a panasoni owned factory and hoover shut down thier huge assembily plant years ago.

I remember when Electrolux used to exports from our local factory not import :(


My youngest son using the smart vac about 2 years ago


Post# 149522 , Reply# 1   8/30/2011 at 06:48 (4,616 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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I think some of Eureka's bagged uprights (including the SmartVac) and the Sanitaire uprights are made in Mexico. Electrolux moved all manufacturing of Eurekas and Sanitaires from Bloomington in Illinois to Juarez, Mexico on the border with the USA. It's possible that the long-running Eureka Mighty Mite compact canister is also now made in Mexico. Owners just have to look at the nameplate on their vacs to see where they were made.

But beyond those long-running designs, any vac labelled Eureka now is coming from an Electrolux-owned plant in China. There may be some Electrolux canisters made in the plant in Hungary which are labelled Eureka - not sure.


Post# 149524 , Reply# 2   8/30/2011 at 07:02 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Hi the Electrolux/ Eureka plant in china is NOT Electrolux owned but a comapny called KING CLEAN, they also manufacture machines for morphy richards , russel hobbs and a few other company's, Electrolux/ eureka also buys designs from other chinese companys and badges them as their own for other machines.This is mainly for canister machines , The uprights are still all designed in the USA

I got a chance to tour it a while ago.
very impressive

The Whirlwind is the only Eureka cansiter made in Hungry but the new Electrolux models all come from Hungry


Post# 149527 , Reply# 3   8/30/2011 at 07:36 (4,616 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

With my limited knowledge, I do know the following are made in the US, or at least assembled in the US with "globally sourced parts".

Kirby
Oreck
Riccar/Simplicity
I'm pretty sure Rainbow
Not positive on Filter Queen


Post# 149528 , Reply# 4   8/30/2011 at 07:44 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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What about Royal the metal ones are they still made their.

Gareth


Post# 149530 , Reply# 5   8/30/2011 at 07:51 (4,616 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Made in USA?

Every piece I have touched on my new Rainbow clearly is marked MADE IN USA. I just checked and even the instruction book is marked on the back "printed in USA".
What I have checked the dollt,water pan,outside of machine,attachments,hose,power nozzle and even Aquamate is marked in 3 places on the bottom "MADE IN USA". You sure don't see that very much anymore.
Not sure of the switched reluctance motor but I would assume that same since they were the first to use this type of motor in a vacuum cleaner ,they produce it themselves.


Post# 149535 , Reply# 6   8/30/2011 at 08:26 (4,616 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Made in the USA

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Filter Queen
Aerus
Royal Metal is made in China.
I was a dealer for Royal and they moved production to China around 2003 .
Dan


Post# 149536 , Reply# 7   8/30/2011 at 08:36 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
Royal

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Hi Dan always great to hear from you

arg that suc ( no pun intended )

If you were a Royal dealer , what do you do now


Post# 149538 , Reply# 8   8/30/2011 at 08:52 (4,616 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I am

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a Realtor . The Vacuum shop I owned I closed because people in my area here in South Jersey
do not care about quality long lasting vacuums they would rater go to Walmart and buy a $35.00 dirtdevil then buy Quality.


Post# 149548 , Reply# 9   8/30/2011 at 09:07 (4,616 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Filter Queen

I had heard something about Filter Queen having some sort of operations in Cleveland in recent years. Does anyone know if so and what kind of operations.
Thought maybe since Royal took a leave from Highland Hieghts in S. cleveland. F Q
may have picked up on some of the space that Royal left behind. Then Cleveland area has a lot of space options.
Is there any trut to it and if so where and what is going on there ?
thanks
Norm


Post# 149551 , Reply# 10   8/30/2011 at 09:16 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
Dan

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Same problem here in SA , domestic workers are still apart of every day life here and no one wants to buy an expensive vacuum when the domestic will break it unfortunetly they just don't seem to understand its not the domestic that breaks the machine , give them something decent to work with and it will last

Gareth


Post# 149552 , Reply# 11   8/30/2011 at 09:17 (4,616 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        
Filter Queen

I had heard something about Filter Queen having some sort of operations in Cleveland in recent years. Does anyone know if so and what kind of operations.
Thought maybe since Royal took a leave from Highland Hieghts in S. cleveland. F Q
may have picked up on some of the space the Royal left behind. Then Cleveland area has a lot of space options.
Is there any truch and if so where and what is going on there ?
thanks
Norm


Post# 149573 , Reply# 12   8/30/2011 at 12:11 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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When Electrolux Cape Town was busy moving to an new office block I went thru to stand in the old factory , It was strange I could remember all the smells and sounds , I even went up to my old office and remember a huge fight I had with a fellow designer over an electrolux motor choice. It was so sad to see it all gone

There are allot of empty old vacuum factory's in the western world.

Now that is heart breaking


Post# 149574 , Reply# 13   8/30/2011 at 12:15 (4,616 days old) by tazcatsdad (Buffalo, NY)        
Filter Queen in Ohio

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Norm,

 

While I don't know the entire story, I can tell you that Filter Queen does have a facility in Strongsville, OH (a suburb of Cleveland) which according to their website is their World Headquarters.  Whether or not any manufacturing is done at that location is unknown: in fact, I would say that there probably isn't given what the building itself looks like in person.

 

Attached here is one of a few pictures I took of the building when I was in Strongsville on vacation in June, 2009.

 

Bill W.


Post# 149588 , Reply# 14   8/30/2011 at 13:47 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
empty vacuum factory's

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When Electrolux SA closed its manufacturing plant here and moved into an Office bolock I went round to collect a few things.
It was very sad to be standing in an empty factory , As I stood there I could almost smell all the factory smels and hear the machines. I went to the empty test lab and remember blowing up prototypes and my office which i shard with many other designers and remember all the fights and laughs we had.

It was very said to see it al go to china

There are many empty vacuum factory's in the western world I suppose

Below an almost empty factory


Post# 149590 , Reply# 15   8/30/2011 at 13:50 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Below is the test room with a few test rigs still in place but every thing else gone

Post# 149596 , Reply# 16   8/30/2011 at 14:22 (4,616 days old) by henry200 (Saint Paul MN)        

Gareth, that must have been very hard to see the factory where you worked empty and abandoned like that.  What a shame it is to see so much domestic manufacturing operations closing down, whether in the States or South Africa.  On a happy note, that son of yours looks a bright young lad, and very happily demonstrating that Eureka!


Post# 149605 , Reply# 17   8/30/2011 at 16:09 (4,616 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Hi Neil

It was not a very nice feeling.
I had left a few years earlier when production started scaling down, at one stage we in SA had over 20 of our own designs on the market but asthings became cheaper to import a number of us were retrenched.

My Dad phoned Electrolux and organised a tour of the factory for me when I was 11 and I had dreamt of working there ever since , I got my first job on the assembly line during school holidays when I was 16 and later worked there every school holiday after that. It was during this time I became involved with prototype work and then whent into designing.

Its a terrible thing to see any factory close, massive job loss and a sence of pride gone aswell.

I suppose many people lost their jobs when TTI closed production in the USA for hoover too

On the up side my son in the picture Is Anthony he is my younger son now 7 and he is a carbon copy of me , bloody naughty too, I wonder where he gets that from.



Post# 149626 , Reply# 18   8/30/2011 at 19:01 (4,616 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)        
Gareth,

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read my rant on the 'off topic' forum.

I had a mental snap at a person at a hardware shop over a USA made chainsaw :)

Made in USA doesn\t equal german quality in my opinion but it is leaps and bounds ahead of China/Vietnam/India manufacturing - I would say it equals the Koreans, look at the quality of their cars and appliances.. very good :)


Post# 150150 , Reply# 19   9/3/2011 at 07:21 (4,612 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Ill go read it now .

I love Korean stuff, My wife drives a Hyundai and we have a few in the family, Hers is over 4 year old now and is still very solid.
I know some Samsung vacuums are made in Korea By Bissell do they have their own brand of vacuum ?


Post# 150250 , Reply# 20   9/3/2011 at 20:11 (4,612 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)        
Otherway round

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Bissell vacuums are made by Samsung (the korean ones). Samsung makes really good vacs, solid and well thought out machines too :)

Post# 150254 , Reply# 21   9/3/2011 at 20:29 (4,612 days old) by kenkart ()        
As Far as I know..

Rainbow is all US, they even build their own motors after the disasterous episode with the E , after that they designed the brushless motor and the rest is history, im not a huge Rainbow fan, but it is a quality product!

Post# 150256 , Reply# 22   9/3/2011 at 20:35 (4,612 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)        

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What happened with the E that was 'disasterous'? I've never heard of that before!

Post# 150261 , Reply# 23   9/3/2011 at 21:08 (4,612 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Yeah what happened to

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the Rainbow E series ? I never heard anything aboout it . I love Rainbow and collect many of them even have the newest E2 Onyx .
Dan


Post# 150298 , Reply# 24   9/4/2011 at 03:38 (4,611 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
bissel made by samsung

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Sorry Patrick

.

The factory is samsung owned but the designs are bissells. Samsung assembles the machines and as so get to sell a few of the uprights under its own name.
others are manufactured in china

I.ve just become a bissell agent and in doing so got the rundown as thier were conflicting models in SA, Samsung here sells thier machines really cheap to the mass stores in a special deal ( by 2000 of our 54inch lcd tv's and get 200 vacs for free. Samsung had to withdraw certain machines from the market when bissell came back to SA.


I was given a virtual tour of both the factory's in china and korea and the design studio in michigan & in shenzhen in china



Post# 150300 , Reply# 25   9/4/2011 at 07:26 (4,611 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)        
Oh Ok...

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I was just going off what the CEO of Bissell Australia told me...

Either way... GREAT machines, e.g. the Lift-Off which I was using tonight :)


Post# 150301 , Reply# 26   9/4/2011 at 08:04 (4,611 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
lift off

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ahh I have one too , great machine's

I love the innovative design.

what colour is yours , mine is ruby red


Post# 150302 , Reply# 27   9/4/2011 at 08:08 (4,611 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

My brother has one of those Samsung branded Bissel power farce machines, it's vile!!! Makes a Hoover Junior look like a high-end Commercial vacuum cleaner... :S

Post# 150334 , Reply# 28   9/4/2011 at 13:22 (4,611 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        

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Gareth, just out of curiosity, is it Samsung who produces the Bissell Healthy Home?? As much as the attachments look to be standard Bissell attachments, there's enough about the vacuum, especially the HEPA filter, that makes me think Bissell sourced this vacuum elsewhere.....

Rob


Post# 150359 , Reply# 29   9/4/2011 at 16:03 (4,611 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
bissel healthy home

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HI Rob

I think this machine is built in china I do not sell this model as it conflicts to heavily with my dyson machines and in SA costs about the same. I think Bissel designed it them self it is too well designed to be a soarced product.

I am not sure how Bissell gets away with producing it and not gettting sued by dyson for patent infringments, look at the cyclone and as you said the hepa filter, ( there are two versions the one with the filter on the side and the one with the filter underneath the tank ( is that the one you were talking about ) Its almost a carbon copy of a dc07/dc14 hepa filter save the screw in the middle.

when we tested a sample they gave me I felt it was a bit big for our market and for the price I couldn't see why any one would by it over a dyson to be honest.

If it were cheaper then I think it would do well.
I did like the fact that the nozzle was elongated and flat to go under furniture

Cheers
Gareth



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