Thread Number: 13059
A very interesting Kirby patent...
[Down to Last]

Vacuumland's exclusive eBay Watch:
scroll >>> for more items --- [As an eBay Partner, eBay may compensate vacuumland.org if you make a purchase using any link to eBay on this page]
Post# 139161   6/9/2011 at 14:24 (4,704 days old) by kirbyduh (Kentucky )        

I've never seen this patent posted here before. Looks like a very interesting idea! What do you guys think?

Post# 139162 , Reply# 1   6/9/2011 at 14:25 (4,704 days old) by kirbyduh (Kentucky )        
oops.

Here's the link. :)

CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirbyduh's LINK


Post# 139163 , Reply# 2   6/9/2011 at 14:31 (4,704 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Definitely looks like an interesting idea, they probably dropped the idea cos they'd have to supply power to the indicator in the nozzle, not being the best environment for electrical components, but it could have been a good idea for sure though... :)

Post# 139166 , Reply# 3   6/9/2011 at 15:16 (4,704 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

What a cool idea though. Problem would be, as what Mr. Dyson says "As the bag fills the suction dropps off." This would cause the machine to adjust lower and lower putting stress on the belt, until such time you changed the bag.

Royal has the Adjust-o-right that was suseptable to the filling bag. No big deal there you could just gage that your suction was dropping off and time to change. Adjust-o-rites are still really cool.


Post# 139168 , Reply# 4   6/9/2011 at 15:33 (4,704 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
It is an idea just like

kirbyloverdan's profile picture
a Sebo with the computer controlled automatic height adjustment. It is something they will one day employ . It keeps the nozzle properly adjusted to all carpets even if they are not level. It will not make the brush lower to cut off airflow nor would it put strain on the belt it would help because most users do not know how to adjust the kirby properly. It is very easy to run power to it it would just connect when you attach the nozzle.

Post# 139169 , Reply# 5   6/9/2011 at 16:53 (4,704 days old) by Trebor ()        
The problem with the Sebo Automatic is...

it cannot adjust itself to a sculptured carpet, which is why they still make the manual height adjustment model

Post# 139171 , Reply# 6   6/9/2011 at 17:07 (4,703 days old) by whirlpolf ()        
neat! would like to have an indicator like this, but

as was stated before: when vacuum operated it might have serious misreadings (full bag etc. or empty bag but no longer keeping airflow by concrete dust and all that).

I can see only two ways to go:
1. tapping the exhaust air as well (meaning going the Lux/Electrolux way, having several pressure sensors all over).
2. measureing the motor torque (amps increasing/dropping) which seems more appropriate to me (an air stream will be an air stream, no matter what it carries - but as Kirby themselves say: "hear a change of sound (speed that is)" - this must be the point to flash the green light.

Never seen the Sebo system though. Is it different?
Or has anyone here got another idea of how to accomplish such a thing? I find it neat ;-)


Post# 139650 , Reply# 7   6/13/2011 at 20:07 (4,699 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

I have used the commercial version of this self adjusting feature and do not care for it at all. It can't keep up with uneveness of the floor and they do end up jamming up with lint,threads and dust. I will gladly adjust the height myself. Just another gimic to sell a vacuum. And further over price a machine. besides that something else to go out on the machine.
Kirby will have another situation on thier hands like they did with the G3 tech drive failing over a pin that come loose do to heat or nylon gears that wouldn't hold up. And when they increased the power from 4 amps on the 500 series to 5 amps on the Dual series. Blew out armatures until they figured out that they had to wind the windings tighter and cement them down to keep the machine from self distruction. Bring on those dinosaurs from the 80's (I love my grandmothers vacuum)on back to the begining of vacuuming. Far fewer gadgets to break down.



Forum Index:       Other Forums:                      



Comes to the Rescue!

Woops, Time to Check the Bag!!!
Either you need to change your vacuum bag or you forgot to LOG-IN?

Discuss-O-MAT Log-In



New Members
Click Here To Sign Up.



                     


automaticwasher.org home
Discuss-o-Mat Forums
Vintage Brochures, Service and Owners Manuals
Fun Vintage Washer Ephemera
See It Wash!
Video Downloads
Audio Downloads
Picture of the Day
Patent of the Day
Photos of our Collections
The Old Aberdeen Farm
Vintage Service Manuals
Vintage washer/dryer/dishwasher to sell?
Technical/service questions?
Looking for Parts?
Website related questions?
Digital Millennium Copyright Act Policy
Our Privacy Policy