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Thread Number: 12914
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Post# 137844 , Reply# 3 5/28/2011 at 13:42 (4,715 days old) by bagintheback  (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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My dad and I are the only people in the house that vacuum. I normally use my Miracle Mate or my Hoover Concept. My dad cleans the utility room with a Hoover Windtunel.
My grandparents on my dad's side will only use Orecks, even though they installed a central vac in the 80s. My other grandparents have four vacuums, 2 of which we bought at thrift stores to sell but decided to keep. My grandma likes the Hoover Convertible and Celebrity, but my grandpa likes the Riccar. Depends on what mood they're in I guess. I gave my mom's brother a Hoover Tempe when he moved, and as far as I know it is still in use. My dad's brother has an Oreck that my grandparent's bought him. They are so brand loyal. My aunt has a Eureka Smartvac. | ||
| Post# 137848 , Reply# 4 5/28/2011 at 14:37 (4,715 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH) | ||
 My Mom and Dad had an Electrolux Discovery III that I sold them when I worked part time for Electrolux. It is now at the house in Dell Hollow that my brother and cousin purchased together. All through the years, mom had a variety of vacuums due to the fact that when I bought a new one, I always gave her my old one (old one still being like brand new), until I started collecting.
My brothers both have Kirby's that I gave to them. One has an Ultimate G and the other has a Kirby Sentria. (Sentria being my least favorite Kirby in the G series.) I even put a G4 Handle, cord and bumper trim on it, before I gave it to them.
My aunt has a Eureka Princess and a brand new one still in the box....and no she won't sell it to me.
My two cousin's have Kirby G4's.
My best friend has a Miele S7 upright and a Miele Champagne Canister.
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| Post# 137851 , Reply# 5 5/28/2011 at 15:15 (4,715 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL) | ||
This might be somewhat of a long list (: but it sounds fun! I am just going to do my closest family members.
My mom does not own a vacuum anymore, because either I do the vacuuming, or she just uses my Dyson DC14 Animal. My step dad has a Dirt Devil Platinum Force, which is now mine. My mom's parents have a Kirby G4 and a Dirt Devil Vision (The Big Green Bagless One) that they use in their Florida home. My mom's brother has a Kirby Ultimate G Diamond Edition, Kirby G5, and a Dirt Devil Ultra Vision. But they recently got divorced and my aunt ended up with the Diamond, so my uncle now has the G5 and the Vision. My dad uses my Hoover Windtunnel T Series Bagged PAWS, along with his central vac. But he only vacuums when I'm not home, because I do a majority of it. He also has a Eureka Boss Plus Bravo that he uses in his other houses that he builds. His parents have a Dirt Devil Lite (The 1990's "Elite" Dirt Devil" that I gave them years ago, and they absolutely love it. They also have the original Dirt Devil Vision, Eureka Copperhead Mini Canister thing, Eureka Whirlwind Lite Quickvac thing, and I think that might be it. My aunt and uncle have a Bissell Pet hair Eraser. Other Aunt and Uncle have a Hoover Elite Rewind, and I'm not sure what my other two pair of aunt and uncles have. I think I have them all mentioned. My grandma and grandpa and my uncle with the Kirbys are the only ones who know what kind of vacuum to buy! ;) | ||
| Post# 137865 , Reply# 7 5/28/2011 at 17:02 (4,715 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY) | ||
Out of both of my Grandma's .....one had a Rainbow D3 bough in 1983 (I think) and my other grandma had an Electrolux Silverado, and I think it was 1986 when she bought that. I vaguely remember being at her house when the demo guy showed up..... My dad has a small apartment with hardwoods and I think he just has a cheap straight suction vac, not sure what kind. My mom had a Hoover Windtunnel bagged canister (before the direct connect) that she hated. My aunt has a central vac she loves (but I'm not sure which brand)...My cousin has a Riccar but she abuses it, it still works. Rest of family just buys cheap throw away vacs.
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| Post# 137869 , Reply# 8 5/28/2011 at 17:20 (4,715 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah) | ||
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| Post# 137893 , Reply# 9 5/29/2011 at 01:35 (4,715 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia) | ||
My Family | ||
| Post# 137899 , Reply# 10 5/29/2011 at 07:59 (4,714 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana) | ||
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My family use... my parents use Hoover,both a upright and a canister.My aunt has a Hoover,cousin's all use some type of Hoover.Me I use a Henry as my daily driver. | ||
| Post# 137911 , Reply# 11 5/29/2011 at 11:10 (4,714 days old) by blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
i use whatever i feel like pulling out though i do have some favorites
my parents have a G3 that i traded for their Legend II My older sister uses a Kenmore progressive 300 she might still use my Jet Flo one of my aunt's uses a windtunnel supreme i think another aunt uses a Kirby Legend II My grandma uses a self propelled windtunnel Last i knew my maternal grandpa used a Fantom Fury Another Aunt likes hoover canisters but she seems to go through one every 2-3 years this time it was an anniversary windtunnel canister My uncle uses a bagless Hoover T series These are the only ones i know | ||
| Post# 138028 , Reply# 13 5/30/2011 at 12:29 (4,713 days old) by KirbyDS80 (California) | ||
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My parents use... My mom uses a Dirt Devil Jaguar my dad uses a Dirt Devil Vision and a Eurkea ESP, and i use A Kirby G5, Hoover Concept One and a Hoover Elite. | ||
| Post# 138029 , Reply# 14 5/30/2011 at 12:33 (4,713 days old) by vac_whisperer () | ||
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Aunt- Dyson Dad- Bissell Grandma- Panasonic Me: Any vacuum thats handy! :P VW | ||
| Post# 138030 , Reply# 15 5/30/2011 at 12:38 (4,713 days old) by KirbyDS80 (California) | ||
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Bad bearings? The Jaguar is really loud. Does that mean bad bearings? | ||
| Post# 138059 , Reply# 19 5/30/2011 at 19:42 (4,713 days old) by Trebor () | ||
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forgot... Bro has an old Hoover convertible I got him new when he was in college, a Kirby 512 I rebuilt for him and a Classic Kirby | ||
| Post# 138579 , Reply# 20 6/5/2011 at 12:41 (4,707 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan) | ||
 My mom uses a hoover bagless as of this post. She also uses my tristar cxl at times. Grandpa uses a kenmore for an upright and a shopvac all around for tools and quick clean ups. Dad uses a kirby classic 3 along with a shop vac for tools. He also loves his royal prince hand vac. Too many others to list. I however use several different vacuum cleaners. | ||
| Post# 138705 , Reply# 21 6/6/2011 at 13:01 (4,706 days old) by vacmaster0000 () | ||
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Oreck My family all have Oreck. But my grandma prefers canisters. And she always had Kenmore. My other had a Rainbow, Hoover Convertible, then a Electrolux. We are a Electrolux family too! :) | ||
| Post# 138940 , Reply# 23 6/7/2011 at 22:50 (4,705 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
Mainly Kirby.. | ||
| Post# 139283 , Reply# 24 6/10/2011 at 09:43 (4,702 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan) | ||
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Post# 139399 , Reply# 25 6/11/2011 at 10:02 (4,701 days old) by tazcatsdad (Buffalo, NY) |
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About my family ... (this is gonna be long!) Since I'm the one in the family that does most of the vacuuming, when I clean it's either one of two machines: my "daily driver" Windsor Sensor SR12, or one of the machines in my collection (if I feel like dragging one out). Favorite choices from my collection are my Kirbys (G5 or Ultimate G); any of my Eureka 2000 series machines or my late '80s/early '90s Montgomery Ward upright; my Sebo Felix; my Electrolux (US) TwinClean with the QuietClean powerhead, or my Miele Red Star.
When she was alive, my maternal Grandmother used a Eureka Easy Glide 210A (the one that I referred to as "a glorified carpet sweeper") which replaced a Regina Electrikbroom (the one which "scared the bejesus out of me" as a child). Not sure what she had before that...
My late paternal Grandmother, on the other hand, had a Model 28 Hoover upright and a Model 82 Constellation. (At least I think it's a model 82: I still have it but haven't looked at it in a while ... I know that it needs a new hose and a new cord, but that's about it! I also have a Model 28 -- not my Grandma's original one, but one darn similar to it.)
As for my late aunts, Aunt Rose had a GE AVF-807; Aunt Gert had an Atlas canister; Aunt Lucy had a Kirby 511; Aunt Bessie had a Hoover 69 which she later replaced with a Hoover 1020 (or maybe it was a 1030? I'm not 100% sure); Aunt Mary and Aunt Mae had Hoovers (models unknown), and Aunt Hazel had a Hoover Slimline canister (model unknown) along with a Hoover Convertible (which I think was a model 66 but I'm not sure) and a Davis Electro-Sweep carpet sweeper. | ||
| Post# 139503 , Reply# 26 6/12/2011 at 01:50 (4,701 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming) | ||
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My Daily Driver is a Kirby Ultimate G Diamond Edition, and a Electrolux Diamond Jubilee.. I have several others (to many to mention) that I use every once in awhile..... | ||
| Post# 139530 , Reply# 27 6/12/2011 at 14:05 (4,700 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 141874 , Reply# 28 7/3/2011 at 15:47 (4,679 days old) by sk81 () | ||
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This is a fun topic :) I use a Hoover Concept One for everthing. My mother uses a Royal 603 and a Concept One. Both grandparents had concept one's. My sister lives in china, so who knows what she is using! | ||
| Post# 141883 , Reply# 29 7/3/2011 at 17:03 (4,679 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky ) | ||
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my parents have Bissel or some kind of cheap plastic upright. When I get my G3 Kirby put together if I can't sell it I might see if they would like to try it out. I believe my sister just got a new Dyson Animal. I would like to try it out (and maybe bring the G5 over and show them a real vacuum) ;) | ||
| Post# 141927 , Reply# 30 7/3/2011 at 22:34 (4,679 days old) by StarryBlues4u (Charlotte, NC) | ||
Daily Drivers
I use mainly my Riccar 8900 series. It is one of the easiest to use. If I do the rugs on the porch I use my Hoover Soft n Light. Sometimes I use my bissell healthy home. Its just such a heavy vacuum to use. Love the turbo brush attachment for the pet hair though. I also use the Windsor Versamatic Plus 18" sometimes.
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| Post# 142797 , Reply# 31 7/11/2011 at 15:00 (4,671 days old) by mieles7 (TX) | ||
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| Post# 142830 , Reply# 33 7/11/2011 at 19:08 (4,671 days old) by hoover1 () | ||
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I vacuum with an electrolux 2100, hoover elite, and a hoover convertible. My aunt vacuums with an oreck. And my grand parents vacuum with a hoover dial-a-matic and a hoover Tempo stick vacuum. | ||
| Post# 143591 , Reply# 34 7/17/2011 at 08:05 (4,665 days old) by Craig_1982 (Newcastle Under Lyme (England)) | ||
well with my family its mainly Kirby's my mother uses my G3 when I hoover I alternate between my tradition heritage and legend 2, My Fiancée has a Kirby heritage 2 which I gave her before that she used some cheap cylinder hoover that is useless. My brother has a heritage 2 with a orange heritage bag again what I gave him and a Henry cylinder hoover, my father had a Kirby legend 2 before he passed away this went to Scotland when my step mother moved back there afterwards, my uncle has a G4 and a old dyson the G4 he doesn't use that much and I am trying to persuade him to give it me lol. My grandparents gave me their Kirby heritage as it was too heavy for them before they passed away, they used a dyson after the heritage. Quite a few friends I know have and use Kirby legend 2.
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| Post# 143609 , Reply# 35 7/17/2011 at 10:32 (4,665 days old) by vaccrazy () | ||
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Parents have 2 Orecks | ||
| Post# 243298 , Reply# 36 8/1/2013 at 19:17 (3,919 days old) by FantomFan (Rochester, New York) | ||
vacuums
-My parents have a Kenmore progressive inteli clean upright (bagged model). My dad also has a 16 gallon craftsman shop vac that he got before I was born
-my aunt has a hoover tempo (bagged model), and I don't know where her Bissell spot lifter went - my grandma has a red Kenmore whispertone canister (looks like a regular progressive), from 2004, a dirt devil power stick, a dirt devil cordless hand vac, and a shop vac, probably 8 gallons - my other grandma has a newer Kenmore progressive canister (from 2009), a dirt devil scorpion hand vac, a eureka the boss superlite, and I believe she still has a silver shark hand vac w/ long extension tools. - one aunt has a miele titan canister, and a Kenmore whispertone 300 - another aunt has an 8 year old Kenmore progressive canister - another aunt has a 2 year old Kenmore progressive canister, plus a 10 year old one in the garage - I believe one has a bagless Bissell powerforce - one aunt has a kirby sentria (still has a beam central vac as well, but it never gets used) -not sure about the others - for whatever reason most people on my dad's side stick to Kenmore canisters, though I told some that for most of the new ones, the quality is going down really fast( I recommended a miele to my aunt after her almost new Kenmore broke( powerhead died out) Also, for neighbors: - one has a riccar canister, and a hoover elite, had a sharp twin energy before -one has a rebuilt dyson dc14 -one has an Electrolux 1521 -one has a Kirby heritage -one has a eureka airspeed -one had a Bissell cleanview at one point -another has a dyson dc14 -one had a hoover elite at one point -one who has rebuilt dc14 had a eureka whirlwind litespeed before -one has a bagged hoover windtunnel t-series -one has a bagless hoover windtunnel( not self-propelled) -one has a new Kenmore progressive canister -one used to have a Kenmore whispertone canister -one used to have a hoover windtunnel canister -one used to have a Kirby (not sure of model) | ||
| Post# 243325 , Reply# 41 8/2/2013 at 04:07 (3,918 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
Mum - Sebo Felix
Dad - Miele S2110 White and a 1979 Numatic NV250 at work Dom (brother) - Dyson DC07 Origin Anthony (brother) - Siemens Compact Gina (sister) - Numatic Hetty Grandma (Mum's side) - Proaction bagged upright (used to have a Hoover Junior Deluxe) Grandma (Dad's side) - Numatic George and a Dyson DC27 (she's about a heap of Dysons, they never last!) My Great Grandparents on Dad's side (both my Grandma's Mum and Grandad's parents) had a Hoover High Power Compact upright and an Electrolux 506 respectively. Aunty Dee (Mum's sister) - Dyson DC04 standard Aunty Sally (Mum's sister) - Dyson DC04 Silver Lime Aunty Maureen (Mum's sister) - Shark Rotator Pro Lift Away My Mum's brother lives in Australia - I've no idea what he has Uncle Andrew (Dad's brother) - Hoover Purepower 1600w (red) Aunty Linda (Dad's sister) - Vax mach air reach, previously a Panasonic MC-E468 Uncle Roy (Dad's brother) - Vax 6131 (older style) Uncle Richard (Dad's brother) - Numatic Henry Lynne (Dad's cousin) - Bissell Clearview bagless upright Gary (Dad's cousin) - Morphy Richards bagged upright John (Dad's cousin) - Sebo x4 My street: 1 - Dyson DC25 overdrive 2 - Dyson DC24 3 - Hoover Purepower 4 - Hetty 5 - Bissell Bagless thing 6 - Dyson DC14 7 - Dyson DC39 8 - Henry & Hoover Turbopower 2 9 - Panasonic bagged upright 10 - Sebo X4 11 - Dyson DC07 12 - Hoover Dust Manager 13 - Dyson DC05 Silver Lime 14 - Me 15 - Dyson DC14 16 - Vax Power-something-or-other. Sounds like concord taking off 17 - Panasonic MC-E468 That's all I can remember at the moment. | ||
| Post# 243326 , Reply# 42 8/2/2013 at 04:09 (3,918 days old) by hi-loswitch98 () | ||
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I forgot to add that my Nan/Grandad (Dad's Side) use a Dyson Animal Upright (one of the eralier models) & a Hetty from 2009 | ||
| Post# 243333 , Reply# 45 8/2/2013 at 06:11 (3,918 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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"At least there not using a Vax, or a Kirby"
The fact that you're putting a cheap Chinese TTI made Vax in the same league, even in the same sentance, as a Kirby, is quite shocking. I'm not a fan of Kirby's, purely because they're so heavy and impractical. But in todays market, they are unrivaled for carpet cleaning. "There are just the best in vacuum design" To give Dyson their due, they do put a lot of attention into R&D and the cyclone continues to improve. However, they need to seriously re-evaluate their material supply. The current DC40 and DC41 retail for near £400 and is probably the flimseyest (is that even a word?), most cheaply made Dyson I have ever used. The handle inparticular is attrocious. For that price, I would expect a far better built machine. Equally, Dyson need to stop with so much focus on improving the cyclone and start thinking about actually carpet performance now. Although it has been improved in recent years, especially on the DC50, the Dyson brushroll is far from high performing. To put in perspective, my grandparents are currently on their fifth Dyson after their DC01, 04, 07 and 15 all broke within a few years. I think the 04 lasted the longest - they had that about 4 or 5 years. Prior to that, their old Electrolux 610 lasted 11 years and my Mum's Panasonic was in daily use in a house with 4 cats and 4 kids for 17 years before it my Mum upgraded. For the high price tag that Dyson comes with, I would expect a fair higher performing, more reliable cleaner. Dyson fans, in my experience (and no offence to anyone) tend to be wearing metaphorical blinkers and not actually considering every factor. | ||
| Post# 243348 , Reply# 46 8/2/2013 at 10:04 (3,918 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 243377 , Reply# 47 8/2/2013 at 20:39 (3,918 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA) | ||
My mom normally only vacuums the basement and for that she uses the Hoover T-Series PAWs. If she were to vacuum anywhere else (I normally do the vacuuming for the rest of the house) she would just use whatever's in the closet, which would be the Bissell Zing bagged downstairs and the Dyson DC-14 upstairs.
If my dad were to vacuum at his house then he'd just use the central vac, but the only time I know of him using that was when I first installed it and he wanted to try it and then recently when he cleaned the refrigerator coils. My grandma on my dad's side uses a bagless Bissell(I've tried to get her to stop that but she won't) but she has a Kirby G4 (she won't give me that since it has sentimental value to my grandpa, my great grandparents bought that in the 90s and they died a few years ago) and I have a Eureka Victory at her house. My still-living great grandparents use a bagless Bissell (the lowest model) and my aunt uses a Bissell Pet Hair Eraser (she has had to replace the brush roll on it at least once), but she has a Dyson DC-07 which is falling apart a central vac system with no hoses and an old, rusty power unit. I really wish she would replace the power unit and buy a new hose since that would clean so much better and be so much better for the air than the cheapo Bissell she uses. My aunt also had the original Dirt Devil Vision and I found a Hoover Elite in her basement that smells like something is burning when running. My great grandparents on my mom's side use the Kohl's version of the Shark Navigator (just a different color from the standard model) and a Shop Vac in their basement. They also have a Bissell Pet Hair Eraser but I am so glad that they no longer use that and it is just sitting in their basement. | ||
| Post# 308119 , Reply# 50 12/6/2014 at 17:14 (3,427 days old) by director12 () | ||
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My parents normally don't vacuum, as I do the job. | ||
| Post# 320847 , Reply# 52 4/7/2015 at 20:56 (3,305 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina) | ||
I think my parents are still using a Singer upright that's lightweight but sounds like a B-25 bomber taking off. They gave me their Kirby Heritage because Mom decided it was too heavy. My sister has a Meile at her house that she thinks is just the greatest thing since sliced bread but I'm not terribly impressed by it, nor am I all that impressed by the Dyson at their vacation home.
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| Post# 320864 , Reply# 53 4/8/2015 at 05:29 (3,304 days old) by HVRVACLVR (Altoona PA) | ||
I use a Dyson DC65 and a Hoover Air Steerable the most.
-My parents use a Dyson DC65 -My Grandmother (my dad's mom) uses a Shark Navigator Pro liftaway, as does my aunt since they live together. -My grandfather and step grandmother (my dad's side) uses a Bissell Powerforce Turbo -My grandparents on my mom's side have recently passed away, I kept a lot of my collection at their house, but they mostly used a Hoover Windtunnel Bagless (twin chamber). -My aunt (mom's sister) uses a bagged Bissell Powerforce. - My great aunt (gram's sister) is a neat freak and uses a Windtunnel Supreme, Hoover Platinum bagged upright and canister, and a Hoover Mach 5. -My great uncle (pap's brother) uses an old Royal Canister and a Bissell Easy Sweep -My girlfriend uses a Dyson DC24, an Oreck (the plain base model) and a Hoover Legacy. | ||
| Post# 320873 , Reply# 56 4/8/2015 at 06:43 (3,304 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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it was a box upright in grey basically | ||
| Post# 320875 , Reply# 57 4/8/2015 at 06:47 (3,304 days old) by marcusprit () | ||
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Haha have you been canvassing Tayyab? :-) | ||
| Post# 320909 , Reply# 58 4/8/2015 at 10:31 (3,304 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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| Post# 320924 , Reply# 59 4/8/2015 at 11:33 (3,304 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Lol aww :) So nice, there is NOBODY in the world who loves the Dyson DC01 more than Citroen :D PS Thought ur mum had a DC04? | ||
| Post# 320925 , Reply# 60 4/8/2015 at 11:36 (3,304 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Haha, wat do u mean, Mark? Chris it looked like a 502 from the side but it was a plastivac bagged upright in grey And the cleaner head was a Hoover TP 1 Shape I think | ||
| Post# 320929 , Reply# 61 4/8/2015 at 11:57 (3,304 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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| Post# 320930 , Reply# 62 4/8/2015 at 12:02 (3,304 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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O lol, I thought it was either a Hoover or a lux | ||
| Post# 320975 , Reply# 63 4/8/2015 at 15:05 (3,304 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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| Post# 320977 , Reply# 64 4/8/2015 at 15:10 (3,304 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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Lol :D your so funny XD | ||
| Post# 320981 , Reply# 65 4/8/2015 at 15:22 (3,304 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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what can I say I have got a very big soft spot for dyson DC01'S not everybody cup of tea but there mine and my family's
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| Post# 321019 , Reply# 67 4/8/2015 at 19:50 (3,304 days old) by vacuumkid47 (Sibley, IA) | ||
My families vacuums are
I use my Rainbow D4C at times, a lot of times my Kirby G4, My mom has a Kirby Sentria II, (she won't let me use it), SOMETIMES my Electrolux XXX. At my dad's, I have a Dirt Devil Super Vision Lite and a Deluxe from '91. I also a have a little Eureka Stick Vac for small cleanups. We are pretty much a Kirby family, though I love every brand. My grandma on my mom's side has a Gsix, and my other grandma has a cheapo Bissell. My other Grandparents has a Hoover Windtunnel Self-Propelled. My grandma on my moms side is a Kirby lover, while my dad's mom loves Kenmores.
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| Post# 321039 , Reply# 68 4/9/2015 at 03:11 (3,303 days old) by citroenbx (england) | ||
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| Post# 321054 , Reply# 69 4/9/2015 at 06:15 (3,303 days old) by parwaz786 ( ) | ||
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OMG That looks SOOOOOOO BRAND NEW!!!! Well Done mate :D That looks so wicked omg, how did you get the hose so clean? or did you replace it? All the scratches are also gone :O That looks outstanding :D | ||
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Post# 321057 , Reply# 70 4/9/2015 at 07:21 (3,303 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada) |
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My sister uses a Kenmore and also inherited my mom's Filter Queen. When my grandmother was living she used a Hoover Constellation and Hoover stick vac. My aunt had a Eureka Golden Crown and then a Lux AP200 and now a Lux Special Edition.
I am switching vacs all the time but my current daily driver is a Lux Guardian Platinum or Kirby Ultimate G Diamond on the main floor and a Eureka rotomatic or Lux '89 on the lower level. Gary | ||
| Post# 321874 , Reply# 72 4/13/2015 at 22:59 (3,299 days old) by vacmaster (San Diego) | ||
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