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"New Generation " Rainbow Just Arrived |
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Post# 135991   5/10/2011 at 13:59 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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The "New Generation" Rainbow just arrived today and what a machine. Thank you Ken Bashford for the PERFECT servcie! Here asre the new boxes |
Post# 135994 , Reply# 1   5/10/2011 at 14:03 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Here is the Aquamate |
Post# 136000 , Reply# 2   5/10/2011 at 14:11 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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new Rainbow product to cleaning floors-THe RainJet |
Post# 136003 , Reply# 3   5/10/2011 at 14:20 (4,728 days old) by rainbowkid107 ()   |   | |
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can't wait to see more! |
Post# 136004 , Reply# 4   5/10/2011 at 14:24 (4,728 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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Rob, Congratulations!!! I can't wait to see more pictures of it and to hear what you think of it. Keep us posted. Terry |
Post# 136005 , Reply# 5   5/10/2011 at 14:24 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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New Dolly-complete new design |
Post# 136007 , Reply# 6   5/10/2011 at 14:41 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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new stainless direct connect wands and tools |
Post# 136009 , Reply# 7   5/10/2011 at 14:52 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Complete System |
Post# 136010 , Reply# 8   5/10/2011 at 14:56 (4,728 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 136013 , Reply# 10   5/10/2011 at 15:12 (4,728 days old) by rainbowkid107 ()   |   | |
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If you have a youtube account, would you mind doing a video? :D |
Post# 136014 , Reply# 11   5/10/2011 at 15:21 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Rainbow and power nozzle |
Post# 136015 , Reply# 12   5/10/2011 at 15:25 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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bottom of power nozzle |
Post# 136016 , Reply# 13   5/10/2011 at 15:32 (4,728 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 136017 , Reply# 14   5/10/2011 at 15:39 (4,728 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Here is the lighted basen. I had to put it in the laundry room to take the picture with the light off |
Post# 136024 , Reply# 17   5/10/2011 at 16:30 (4,728 days old) by kirbyduh (Kentucky )   |   | |
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The Power Nozzle is completely different! I hope it cleans better than the old style. How high is the PN's profile? |
Post# 136039 , Reply# 19   5/10/2011 at 18:10 (4,728 days old) by rainbowkid107 ()   |   | |
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will you be doing a video of it running? |
Post# 136064 , Reply# 20   5/10/2011 at 20:15 (4,728 days old) by vacfan6384 (Larksville,PA)   |   | |
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Post# 136066 , Reply# 21   5/10/2011 at 20:25 (4,728 days old) by Brandon_W_T ()   |   | |
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AMAZING!!!! I am speechless. That is one incredible looking machine. Cant wait to try one out some day! My hats off to rainbow! |
Post# 136067 , Reply# 22   5/10/2011 at 20:26 (4,728 days old) by henry200 (Saint Paul MN)   |   | |
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Does anyone else think it has a bit of a "Darth Vader" look to it? That power nozzle is a real innovation. I think a trip to my local dealer is on my to-do list for sure.
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Post# 136075 , Reply# 23   5/10/2011 at 20:56 (4,728 days old) by Trebor ()   |   | |
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still a Rainbowmate availaboe? Didn't see one in the pics. I like the new machine very much |
Post# 136082 , Reply# 24   5/10/2011 at 21:48 (4,728 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT)   |   | |
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Wow that's cool! I love the light-up pan. Too bad they are not more affordable. I would buy one if I could spare that much cash. Nicholas |
Post# 136100 , Reply# 25   5/11/2011 at 02:21 (4,728 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Hi Rob,
Thanks for posting, I like the new hard surface cleaning kit. I know you mentioned using the rainbow on your garage floor and this looks like that kit will make it even easier. I have an E Series that I am going to use to clean my garage floor this year as I have tried a steam cleaner after vacuuming etc....ok but....
Thanks for posting all the wonderful pictures,
Bud |
Post# 136107 , Reply# 26   5/11/2011 at 05:13 (4,728 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136110 , Reply# 29   5/11/2011 at 06:24 (4,728 days old) by Vacuumalex ()   |   | |
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Hmmm...looks kind of "retroish," to me. |
Post# 136168 , Reply# 31   5/11/2011 at 16:19 (4,727 days old) by unconscious (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 136264 , Reply# 33   5/12/2011 at 01:57 (4,727 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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the "Rainbowjet" replaces the "Aquamate"? |
Post# 136270 , Reply# 34   5/12/2011 at 03:48 (4,727 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136273 , Reply# 37   5/12/2011 at 05:18 (4,727 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Rex, The dealer I used is a member of our club. Give Ken a call as he shipped mine from Texas. He gives fast service and fair price. Ken Bashford 512-451-8993 |
Post# 136275 , Reply# 39   5/12/2011 at 06:18 (4,727 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Here is a view of the underside and revolving brush. One tank full did 14 by 18 family room carpet. |
Post# 136283 , Reply# 41   5/12/2011 at 09:00 (4,726 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Rob
Let me ask. With this Aquamate, does it say in the owners guide that you can only use cool water? Is that true? Another thing I wondered about the Aquamate as opposed to, say a hoover steamvac, is the water lift. I know any regular vacuum "to me" always seems to have better suction than a deep cleaner......So I'm *thinking* the extraction power on the Aquamate with the Rainbow's good suction would extract more water....... It's such a HUGE improvement to have the ONE electric hose for EVERYTHING.....That's what I've always loved about my Kenmore Can was the direct connect......I can't imagine what you must have paid for all of this. Hopefully the direct connect won't have future problems. Usually that's one thing about Rainbow is that it's so reliable. |
Post# 136291 , Reply# 43   5/12/2011 at 11:01 (4,726 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)   |   | |
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Does Rainbow only sell the machine with all accessories or will they let a buyer purchase the machine "a la carte", meaning you can pick and choose your accessories? I'd like to get everything for dry vacuuming but I don't care for the wet accessories. |
Post# 136293 , Reply# 44   5/12/2011 at 12:40 (4,726 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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John, I do not know the answer to your question. Give Ken a call. He is in Austin Texas. I am sure he can help you out and answer any questions. Number 512-451-8993. |
Post# 136310 , Reply# 45   5/12/2011 at 15:38 (4,726 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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It's great that Rainbow made some much-needed upgrades to the vacuum, such as the direct-connect wands & lighted water basin. But, I don't like the design of the new dolly, don't like the design of the new Rainbow logo, & that powerhead is just HORRIBLE!! The surface area it would cover is too small, considering how much the vac costs to buy. Plus, the brushroll looks wimpy & like it wouldn't clean the carpet deeply, & the edge groomers look like they will be problematic. They should have just kept the brush stiffeners on the brushroll & added stationary brushes on the side like Orecks have. Also, I hear no mention at all whether the new powerhead has a cog or V-belt or not. Considering that Rainbows sell for a little over $2,400 CDN, this is unacceptable & these should be standard features.
If this is all Rainbow's designers are capable of, they should have just gone to Wessell Werk & sourced a powerhead from them. Looks like if I buy a Rainbow now, it will be a E2 Blue Platinum model. Rob |
Post# 136315 , Reply# 46   5/12/2011 at 16:16 (4,726 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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id buy one its better then most vacuums |
Post# 136329 , Reply# 47   5/12/2011 at 18:26 (4,726 days old) by airwaylady (Milwaukee, WI)   |   | |
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WOW Rob! You have created quite a stir with this New Rainbow! Happy you were able so acquire one for yourself and Happy Vacuuming to you! Tania |
Post# 136346 , Reply# 49   5/12/2011 at 20:41 (4,726 days old) by Crevicetool (GA )   |   | |
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Thanks so much for introducing the new Rainbow to us. This has been a most interesting thread for sure. You have done a wonderful job showing to us. Congratulations on the machine. It's just great! Rick |
Post# 136378 , Reply# 52   5/13/2011 at 01:47 (4,726 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136405 , Reply# 56   5/13/2011 at 09:33 (4,725 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136499 , Reply# 66   5/14/2011 at 02:45 (4,725 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I mean, I can understand if you bought a Rainbow from the dealer and they would give you an Aquamate "IF" you gave them a list of names and they ended up buying a Rainbow or something..........But to want to out and out buy one and they say no? That's the strangest thing.
When I bought my e2 five years ago, they gave me the Rainbowmate for free because I asked for it....Though it was really not for free. For those who have the e2 2 speed. There is supposed to be a wet handle kit you can purchase to make your electric hose approved for wet pick up, without having to buy a new electric hose. I don't think the Aquamate can be used on the one speed e series? I can't remember where I read that. At any rate, the Aquamate 3's are on back order at Goodvac......Perhaps in the future I will trade my Rainbow......But even at trading it it will still be outrageous, so I dunno. Sorry to ramble.........Too much coffee For the poster above that said the tool caddy on the e series gets in the way of the hose....Thank you! I agree. I don't have too many problems with mine running into the wall though. So Rob........You never had an E series?........You went from the older Rainbow to this beast? You sure are giving this thing a workout, which is exactly what you should be doing to make sure it's going to hold up. |
Post# 136505 , Reply# 68   5/14/2011 at 06:19 (4,725 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Yes--thats right-the front mounted tool rack interferes with the hose.the Saleslady suggests not using it. |
Post# 136510 , Reply# 71   5/14/2011 at 07:21 (4,725 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I'm not getting the thing about the E series being loud. At least the 2 speed model I have doesn't seem overly loud at all to me for a vacuum. I haven't seen or used a one speed E series so I don't know.
I would take the tool caddy off my Rainbow but I actually use it all the time. Hey Robert...........Do you have any idea if that electric hose where it plugs into the rainbow unit itself is the same as the E series connection? It looks the same from what I can see in the pics but something tells me it wouldn't work. Reason I'm asking is that it's possible I could get the hose and PN for mine.... |
Post# 136520 , Reply# 73   5/14/2011 at 09:27 (4,724 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Not sure. I know the local distributor here in Lexington is now called Thoroughbred Wholesale. Prior to that when I bought mine, it was called something else. It has been there for years in the same location. The guy that owns it now sold it in 1986 and just recently came back to that location after the lady retired. I'll have to look at my paperwork. But, 600 dollars is too little to trade in for me. I'm happy with what I have pretty much, I just wish I had a new PN and an electric hose that is compatible with water........As far as power goes, I guess they didn't add any power to these new ones, unless that's something you forgot to mention...From looking at the back of the machine the hepa looks to be identical to yours from what I can tell. I know the ONE speed hepa's were different.
I'm thinking on this machine they didn't make any changes to the motor/power itself other than reducing sound probably with insulation. I don't know. |
Post# 136530 , Reply# 74   5/14/2011 at 11:31 (4,724 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Rainbow Distributors,
I noticed on Rexair's website, that they no longer let you put your zip code in to find a distributor in your area. They ask you to call instead. Wonder if they have lost a lot of distributors due to the economy?????
Will Rexair just let you buy from any distributor or does it have to be the closest one to you????????????
Bud Mattingly |
Post# 136549 , Reply# 76   5/14/2011 at 15:31 (4,724 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Rob
Over time, take your hepa out and check it on both sides. It will stay white for a LONG time. You will notice that when it's OUT you can get a decent look inside the machine. Also, not sure if you know this or not, but you can put a couple of drops (no more than that) of jetdry liquid rinse aid or any liquid dishwasher rinse aid in the water. It works like the AquaWet Rexair sells. I put some rinse aid in an eye dropper bottle so I can put (drops) in instead of a squirt (which is too much, it will foam). It will help if you happen to accidentally vacuum anything non-wettable. |
Post# 136550 , Reply# 77   5/14/2011 at 15:36 (4,724 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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This looks like a really great machine with some huge improvements and it has really sparked my intrest in Rainbow. It sounds like its a wonderful vac and not having any exhaust oder is fabulous, although thats why I have a central vac and like most here the last thing i need is another vacuum. I'm curious to know what the MSRP is for this new machine?
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Post# 136553 , Reply# 78   5/14/2011 at 16:24 (4,724 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136629 , Reply# 80   5/15/2011 at 04:54 (4,724 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136642 , Reply# 84   5/15/2011 at 08:54 (4,723 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136643 , Reply# 85   5/15/2011 at 08:59 (4,723 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Rob.
You notice those two little clips on the end of the hose that snap into the main unit........I do not like the fact that those are plastic.......Why? Because I had put the hose over my shoulder to take it with me to the next room, and as the hose was sort of swaying that part of the hose slightly hit the wall and it broke. I couldn't use the hose.......Rainbow gave me another one and took the broken one. I even emailed Rexair letting them know I thought that part should be metal or stronger plastic.......Not that it did any good. |
Post# 136684 , Reply# 88   5/15/2011 at 17:25 (4,723 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Rob.....Those two little grey clips on each side of the hose.....Yes like hard plastic or whatever broke when it hit a wall...........It wasn't like I smashed it against a wall purposely. Imagine throwing the hose over your shoulder and the hose sort of swinging and it sort of hit the wall the perfect way I suppose and it chipped off a piece of the clip, enough so that it wouldn't snap into the unit........To me that's kind of a critical area since the hose it bound to bump into things every now and then............
About the E series (prior to yours)......No. It has a trigger on the hose. You hold the trigger to power the PN and let off the trigger when you want the PN to turn off, yet the Main unit will still be running. I never use an air cleaner anymore quite honestly.........I'm not in an area of the country that is very dry ......Not sure where you are.... I'm amazed looking at your caddy. There's barely anything on it.......That's awesome! With my Rainbow I have the electric hose, the standard non-electric hose, and another non-electric hose that's actually 14 feet long, and I LOVE it because it's the only way I can get up to reach high areas.......I used to have to get someone to hold a vacuum while I was up on a ladder so I could clean ceiling fans and up above kitchen cabinets.......With that 14 foot hose.......I'm good to go on my own. That looks almost identical to my electric hose end though. I'm wondering if that hose would fit into my Rainbow. I'm actually thinking it might. When and if my camera batter charges, I'll take a pic............I have no idea why but my digital camera battery always takes like twelve hours to charge. |
Post# 136732 , Reply# 90   5/16/2011 at 07:53 (4,723 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136733 , Reply# 91   5/16/2011 at 07:55 (4,723 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136739 , Reply# 94   5/16/2011 at 14:29 (4,722 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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The two speed brushless motor is NOT loud........
I just heard back from Rexair about whether or not the hose would fit the e series prior to this latest model: Dear Mark: You can outfit your e series with the latest Power Nozzle. And you can do this through purchasing a new hose and the Power Nozzle to convert your system to the updates that the new PZ has to offer. It won't "match"..........but I may do this in the future, no sure. I still hate that I will be missing the coolest part....The LED light Your local distributor will b e happy to help you make this adjustment. Please forward your complete address for a local listing. |
Post# 136744 , Reply# 97   5/16/2011 at 16:21 (4,722 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Here it is with the direct connect wand attached. Thanks again to Ken for such FAST service. It is kind of nice to see MADE IN THE USA on all the parts! |
Post# 136765 , Reply# 99   5/16/2011 at 21:51 (4,722 days old) by RainbowJoel (Dexter NM)   |   | |
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wow I love the new rainbow. I wish can afford one. |
Post# 136795 , Reply# 100   5/17/2011 at 14:43 (4,721 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136811 , Reply# 102   5/17/2011 at 18:14 (4,721 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Luxlife.......I agree. I've wondered the same thing........I have the 14 foot non-electric hose on my 2 speed that I use ALL the time to get high places and the suction is great at the end even at 14 feet....Maybe a little bit of loss but not very much....So much easier to pop the hose on and just go around and dust everything high and low without having to move the actual unit.....I think it would be worth it.
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Post# 136856 , Reply# 103   5/17/2011 at 23:17 (4,721 days old) by rainbowjoel (Dexter NM)   |   | |
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Mark Yeah i probably get one in future and start saving some money. lol |
Post# 136919 , Reply# 105   5/18/2011 at 14:44 (4,720 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 136924 , Reply# 106   5/18/2011 at 15:40 (4,720 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Post# 136966 , Reply# 108   5/18/2011 at 21:09 (4,720 days old) by clintscleaning ()   |   | |
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WISH I HAD ONE OF THE NEW ONES I BOUGHT TWO LAST YEARS |
Post# 137006 , Reply# 111   5/19/2011 at 07:40 (4,720 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 137019 , Reply# 113   5/19/2011 at 11:06 (4,719 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 137026 , Reply# 116   5/19/2011 at 13:44 (4,719 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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A a former Vacuum shop owner the # 1 most repaired item was a cord rewinder tied with broken belts . I was a Miele warranty station and a lot of Miele cord winders broke so just as a personal choice I don`t like a cord winder . I own a Robo clean that has a cord winder and the cord is very short and if I want to use it I have to pull out an extension cord . I am glad to hear that Rainbow changed the way you wrap the cord and it looks like it will make a great difference. I also like that you can just roll it up and set it on the hook until next use. Thank you Rob for refering Ken he is such a nice guy . I will be getting the rainbow in July just in time for my Birthday . I can`t wait to get my new Rainbow. With that said that is why there is a Vacuum for every house !
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Post# 137028 , Reply# 117   5/19/2011 at 14:28 (4,719 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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As nice of a feature a cord winder is to have, I have found that so many of them are too short. The only canister that I own that actually has a long cord making it a breeze to use is my Electrolux Renaissance. Very few other canister vacuums on the market have a 28ft cord, all ever other Lux tanks, including all the new models have a much shorter cord. Even the 2 Miele's that I used to have had short cords. I guess maybe its because they are European machines and homes in Europe are not as large as American homes, but at $1200+ for a TOL Miele canister, a longer power cord would be a wonderful advantage. As for the new Aerus models, its probably just a cost cutting measure to use a shorter cord. |
Post# 137029 , Reply# 118   5/19/2011 at 14:39 (4,719 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137040 , Reply# 121   5/19/2011 at 16:40 (4,719 days old) by FilterQueenMan (Park City UT)   |   | |
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Sir, your comments and language innuendos are way off base and down right rude. While you are certainly entitled to voice your opinion and views, they can be expressed without using language that can be objectionable to the younger readers and some senior for that matter.
Please be a gentleman and express your points without the objectionable remarks that are completely inappropriate in my opinion and other as well. Honestly by your own admission "Have never seen one live, that is why I feel so jaw-dropping" how can you formulate an opinion and moreover make an assessment on something you have no real knowledge in. If you have never seen or operated a Rainbow you certainly can not formulate an assessment regarding the machines' physics now can you?
Rob - Great Machine you found something that works very well for you and I am happy that you could make this purchase and also share so much information. Perhaps, you need to consider being a dealer, sounds like a few purchases are heading Ken's way. |
Post# 137043 , Reply# 122   5/19/2011 at 17:03 (4,719 days old) by Floor-A-Matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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How can I use the new style PN on my SE? Will it work or do I have to buy the new 2011 Rainbow? |
Post# 137051 , Reply# 123   5/19/2011 at 17:33 (4,719 days old) by Floor-A-Matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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What type of belt does the new 2011 Rainbow use? |
Post# 137052 , Reply# 124   5/19/2011 at 17:36 (4,719 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I highly doubt it. I'm not 100 percent...But I think anything pre E series would not be compatible.....Unless there is some kind of hose adapter I'm not aware of. All this Rainbow talk.....I got mine out last night and cleaned floor to ceiling for 5 hours. I was exhausted when I finished....While using it I'm listening to it and remembering the comments of how sound of the machine was too loud and either I'm crazy or mine just isn't that loud The more I think about it.....I don't think I'm going to upgrade anything....At least for the time being....as much as I would like to.......My Rainbow actually still has that new smell from when I took it out of the box........It's crazy. It still has that new Rainbow smell.......How that's possible....I dunno. |
Post# 137066 , Reply# 126   5/19/2011 at 20:02 (4,719 days old) by RainbowJoel (Dexter NM)   |   | |
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I agree with u Mark I am keeping mine but i may upgrade the powernozzle with hose and get rainjet. |
Post# 137077 , Reply# 127   5/19/2011 at 22:23 (4,719 days old) by RainbowJoel (Dexter NM)   |   | |
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AT williamr1248 Can you post a picture of Separator? I wondering if they changed the design. by the way my name is Joel, I'm new in here. |
Post# 137091 , Reply# 129   5/20/2011 at 04:40 (4,719 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Hey Joel..........
Yea. Make sure if you do upgrade that you also upgrade the floor brush. It's not the same. It snap locks in whereas the one I have has the bump on the end up the curved wand. From that picture above, that floor brush is totally different from my E2...........Also take note of the new Aquamate 3 in the picture above........Since you already have the Aquamate 3 for your e2 2 speed........Since this new aquamate is direct connect.........I don't even know if your current aquamate 3 will work with the new hose.......You could always keep your old hose I guess...... The E2 separators are self-cleaning?????????? Really? It seems I read that once but I can't remember the source. I still clean mine on occasion. |
Post# 137121 , Reply# 132   5/20/2011 at 19:44 (4,718 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137124 , Reply# 134   5/20/2011 at 20:33 (4,718 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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grinding motor noise ? I have yet to find one in all the Rainbow vacuums I own . I have a D2 series D4 series , D4se , E series one speed and the Two Speed E2 Rainbow and all a very quiet . Maybe Wirlpolf`s Rainbow`s have bad bearings which would be caused by storing it wet and not taking the time to clean and dry it after use.
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Post# 137135 , Reply# 137   5/20/2011 at 23:13 (4,718 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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you being in Germany and the Rainbow running on 220 volts , here in the USA we have 120 volts and our Rainbow`s dont make the grinding noise that drives you nuts . You also just might be ultra sensitive to certain noises that don`t bother the average person . Well if you do decide to stop collecting vacuums good luck on your next adventure . Let us know if you get your hearing checked to see if you really are super sensitive to certain noises .
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Post# 137136 , Reply# 138   5/20/2011 at 23:21 (4,718 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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No problem Rob
This was the sqeegee I found on Goodvac.com........ it just slides onto the upholstery tool...........It's cheap too.........I'm not sure if it's meant for doing windows......But I don't see why it wouldn't work on windows. I might get one for mine. I'm not sure if it's a genuine Rexair part or not CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark40511's LINK |
Post# 137164 , Reply# 141   5/21/2011 at 05:56 (4,718 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137178 , Reply# 146   5/21/2011 at 09:10 (4,717 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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This is a video demo of the Rainbow. It looks like it's from another country........If you go to the 8:11 mark....She does a demo of the squeegee..........But this is the squeegee for the older Rainbow........But my question is look at how soapy that table looks...........Once I put some generic Aqua Fresh in my Rainbow basin that is specially made for water filtration vacuums and it foamed up in the basin like crazy so I had to dump it..........I guess that's why I'm wondering.....I didn't think the Rainbow liked any kind of "foam" whatsoever.......I'm imagining sucking that soapy water into the Rainbow would cause it to violently vibrate..........I guess maybe it's not so bad if you start with an empty basin
and PS..........I have looked HIGH and LOW on my unit and I have never seen any sort of a brush to clean the separator. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark40511's LINK |
Post# 137179 , Reply# 147   5/21/2011 at 09:11 (4,717 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137188 , Reply# 150   5/21/2011 at 10:09 (4,717 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137206 , Reply# 153   5/21/2011 at 14:48 (4,717 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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Post# 137256 , Reply# 155   5/22/2011 at 01:01 (4,717 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137284 , Reply# 156   5/22/2011 at 14:27 (4,716 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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well i think rainbow is just a joke i wont own one ever again . i never thought you owned a miele . |
Post# 137293 , Reply# 158   5/22/2011 at 15:43 (4,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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2 Speed Gold Edition which I use daily. I also have a New Miele twist upright with the new cloth 3M Filtrete style bag and a hepa w/charcoal filter. I have a Jack Russell that is very clean and she never smells. When I use my Miele with a bag it always smells of dog . I never get that with my E series. I also own a Miele Aluminium and a Blue Moon all always smell and my home is spotless as I vacuum daily. When I use my Rainbow E there is never any dirt left in the carpet after I am done . I have a friend at Aerus who sells me machines and my Kirby friend. When they come over to demo new machines for me they are amazed that they can never pull any dirt . Usually they might get a few specks of dust but they are always asking me what do I use and I always tell them my Rainbow E series 95% of the time . The other times I use an Aerus Guardian upright and canister ,my Kirby Sentria,my Miele Twist and an Oreck Platnium Pilot which uses the cloth type charcoal activated bags which never have any odors comming out of them.I really think Consumer Reports should test vacuums in real homes with real dirt and not the wood pulp talc sand mixture they use. Who has wood pulp and talc in their carpets ? Because my current Rainbow cleans so well is the reason I will be purchasing this new model Rainbow .Miele has never sold a bagless model in the US .
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Post# 137299 , Reply# 159   5/22/2011 at 16:42 (4,716 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Yea..........About the smell..........I buy the cloth like bags for my Kenmore can........and they work well..........But before it's time for the bag to need changing there is that smell............it's just not very pleasant at all...Even if I add lemon/or fab soft sheet or vacuum scents it's like a combination of dirty bag smell and lemons or fabric softener...........It's not bad at all at first.........At times I've changed the bag before it even needs to be changed.....I guess it's bacteria growth......The only think I'm really doing is normal vacuuming......I do have two cats......It really is difficult to get away from that vacuum bag smell unless you change them A LOT no matter how clean your house is...I don't change mine a lot because my house is vacuumed so often that I think I've gotten almost all the dirt up and it takes a while for the bag to get even reasonably full to justify changing it........I think the confusion with the poster above that said his machine didn't use paper bag........He didn't mean it was bagless, I think he meant "not paper but cloth".....But Rob thought when he said it didn't use paper that he thought it must be bagless
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Post# 137308 , Reply# 162   5/22/2011 at 18:51 (4,716 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 137367 , Reply# 165   5/23/2011 at 05:29 (4,716 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137395 , Reply# 168   5/23/2011 at 11:37 (4,715 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137424 , Reply# 171   5/23/2011 at 16:09 (4,715 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Aaron......Are you a drive by poster? If you get this response........I have a question.......A Rainbow salesman came by your house and sold you a USED Rainbow??? I would call your distributor.....
Oh and I agree .......Can you imagine people who JUST purchased Rainbow's only for Rainbow to come out with a cool updated model just after...........I bought mine five years ago and I'm still envious.......I can imagine what someone who just bought one must feel like............Especially if it is USED. Anyway........Still happy with mine...I just want this new toy And ROB........Your right......They don't cut corners from what I can see.......Except on those little clips on the hose coupling. Those should be metal |
Post# 137439 , Reply# 173   5/23/2011 at 17:34 (4,715 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Well sorry you had to go through all that.....But at least you got a GOOD price. Thank God you noticed the scratches or none of this probably wouldn't have happened in time.......Since you didn't pay FULL price for a BRAND new one (like I did) then you might not feel so bad for TRADING one in for a brand new one.....I'm not going to pay full price for a new Rainbow twice. I still like mine a lot.
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Post# 137448 , Reply# 174   5/23/2011 at 18:11 (4,715 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I found a video on the New Rainbow.. They also demo the rainjet on another video. Same user
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Post# 137451 , Reply# 175   5/23/2011 at 18:39 (4,715 days old) by henry200 (Saint Paul MN)   |   | |
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Thanks for finding the new videos. This new Rainbow is mighty attractive. I only wish I could afford one! |
Post# 137476 , Reply# 176   5/23/2011 at 20:21 (4,715 days old) by kirbyduh (Kentucky )   |   | |
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Click on the top banner and it gives lots of info and shows the inside of the new power nozzle... CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirbyduh's LINK |
Post# 137482 , Reply# 177   5/23/2011 at 21:40 (4,715 days old) by aarons1584 ()   |   | |
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Yeah it was indeed a mess, I guess we got a good price, we paid $1,000, and he promises the warranty is the same as the new one. |
Post# 137493 , Reply# 178   5/23/2011 at 23:11 (4,715 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)   |   | |
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Fabulous video! Thanks for sharing that! The guy in the video isn't bad, either. LOL. That website also really gives quite a good description of the updates, as well. |
Post# 137514 , Reply# 180   5/24/2011 at 05:59 (4,715 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Mark, The window squeegee arrived yesterday. It looks like it will be perfect. Just the right size. It snapes on the fabric tool brush. |
Post# 137520 , Reply# 181   5/24/2011 at 06:56 (4,715 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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Rob, be sure and let us know how the squeegee attachment works! |
Post# 137521 , Reply# 182   5/24/2011 at 07:05 (4,715 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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Mark, thanks so much for posting that video. I have to agree with Fred, the guy doing it is great!! I am sure he could sell a lot of Rainbows!!! |
Post# 137532 , Reply# 188   5/24/2011 at 09:03 (4,714 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Terry, Just wait until they come out with the new Kirby! We will have just as much fun. Maybe Jack will be giving an update on some new Dyson's before long. |
Post# 137535 , Reply# 189   5/24/2011 at 09:18 (4,714 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Hey Rob
Glad you got the squeegee. That was fast! I use a big squeegee to do my front room windows.......I start at the top and go down, but then I have to have a wet cloth to dry the bottom of the window and the squeegee.....I've never used a squeegee on a vacuum but I'm imagine that water is completely gone and there is no wiping of the squeegee and all...... From what I can see, that looks like an Awesome view out your window and the porch looks great too. |
Post# 137543 , Reply# 192   5/24/2011 at 09:50 (4,714 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Yes..The 14 foot hose is great.......What I usually do is run the PN all over the house...Unsnap, put it away.....Grab the fourteen foot hose and just go around getting everything and the unit itself doesn't get moves around as often. And you don't have to worry about unplugging/replugging in a different outlet because the hose is so long that the machine doesn't need to be moved far enough
Speaking of getting a used Rainbow when you "think" it's new.......... I got lucky I guess. I remember unpacking mine and there is NO way that it was used. I'm pretty sure I would have spotted something. I kept all the boxes and packing material it came in and it's all in my attic. I would have NO clue how to repack them if I ever needed to. I had to correct some errors.....My grammar :( Aaron........That is still HIGH for a used Rainbow when you can get a refurbed 2 speed off Ebay sometimes for as little as 700 dollars. I've seen one speeds for 600 dollars. How well they are refurbished, I do not know?? I guess some of these vacuum guys on there are pretty reputable because they seem to do a LOT of selling of high end used rebuilt vacuums........I wouldn't buy a USED Rainbow if it was someone just selling "theirs" But it will be a LONG time before these new Rainbows start showing up on Ebay as refurbished, and EVEN THEN, they will be expensive. |
Post# 137551 , Reply# 193   5/24/2011 at 11:04 (4,714 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 137554 , Reply# 194   5/24/2011 at 12:06 (4,714 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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The last rainbow I bought, I walked in and purchased it with the stipulation that I did not need a demo and it needed to be brand new. They delivered it to my home and I checked it all over to be sure and then I signed the paperwork stating that they had shown me the various ways to use and clean the machine. The same goes for Kirby. Fortunately, I have no complaints with the Kirby dealer or the Rainbow dealer, although I don't think my Rainbow dealer is still in business. When I get a new Rainbow I will likely buy from the gentleman that Rob mentioned in his post.
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Post# 137587 , Reply# 198   5/24/2011 at 20:08 (4,714 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Aaron........You're right. I was completely forgetting about the warranty in my mind........Yes......That price is fine.
I was just saying I look on Ebay occasionally and I have seen two speeds that have been completely refurbished for like 800 dollars.....But it's bare bones usually. Just the unit, the PN and the wet/dry hose and typical attachments that come with it..and it's with a warranty from the sellers store....Not Rainbow.......So yeah, with the warranty that's good.... Here's a good example of one..... CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark40511's LINK on eBay |
Post# 137628 , Reply# 200   5/25/2011 at 09:31 (4,713 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 137630 , Reply# 201   5/25/2011 at 10:17 (4,713 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)   |   | |
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am posting #201 Great info and video of the new rainbow i want one now..I think i may want to sell the new rainbow now...it looks like fun! |
Post# 137636 , Reply# 202   5/25/2011 at 12:23 (4,713 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137639 , Reply# 203   5/25/2011 at 13:43 (4,713 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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And now 203 reply's that amazing but did you see that this thread has had 3262 viewings??? That has to be a record for a posting here. You really started a great thread Rob! |
Post# 137648 , Reply# 205   5/25/2011 at 15:26 (4,713 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Terry, I almost did not even start the Rainbow thread. I did not think there would be much interest in the Rainbow. At best I thought I might get 3-4 looks. You can never be too old to be wrong! |
Post# 137652 , Reply# 206   5/25/2011 at 16:54 (4,713 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Yea.
Odd that they took the "R" off. I was looking at your pictures above and I was wondering where the "GREEN" box was. I saw in the video and there was a GREEN box. Not that it's a big deal but just wondering. I'm sure they will find something to improve over the years (hopefully they will still be in business), but they got it pretty close to perfect this time it seems... I wonder if it's safe to put any type of cleaner if the rainbow basin as long as it doesn't foam. I've always been afraid to try it |
Post# 137757 , Reply# 208   5/27/2011 at 12:05 (4,711 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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75 years of progress and still "Wet Dust Doesn't Fly" |
Post# 137775 , Reply# 210   5/27/2011 at 17:08 (4,711 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 137856 , Reply# 211   5/28/2011 at 15:56 (4,710 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Can't people use a shop vac for picking up any powder or cat litter? A TriStar is fine (not for wet pickup!) since it maintains suction even with a full bag. |
Post# 137866 , Reply# 212   5/28/2011 at 17:08 (4,710 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I think shop vac makes bags specifically for picking up drywall dust and the bags get great reviews......But it looks like it's a paper type bag, not the synthetic cloth......I wonder how a paper bag could EVER be considered better than the synthetic cloth bag?.......As far as the Rainbow.....They do make the Aquawet. Even still, I don't know if I would chance picking up drywall dust even with that...It might work though. I also remember reading where someone actually put a little cooking oil with the water in the water basin for that....I can't remember where I read that or why I remember it....I mean, cooking oil?
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Post# 137902 , Reply# 213   5/29/2011 at 09:21 (4,709 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Hi Rob,
Earlier in the thread you mentioned the power nozzle lays flat to go easily under things. Does that include a bed? I actually bought the older style power nozzle to use when cleaning under the beds. The newer power nozzles tip up before you get all the way under to the other side. The way I have to arrange my bedroom does not allow me to go to the other side and vacuum that half. I have the same problem with electrolux power nozzles after the PN #5. They all tip before reaching the other side. I hate to have two power nozzles to do one job.
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Post# 137955 , Reply# 215   5/29/2011 at 16:55 (4,709 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I know what you mean. At least my E2 PN doesn't tip up at all when you get to the other end under the bed..It stays flat against the floor.......But Most of the time I too use the floor brush to get under the bed......No one walks under the bed so it's just dust, no really deep dirt.....The Kenmore PN does I have does tip up..... Rob........The E series Rainbows do lock in the upright position and don't tip over at all. I think LED lights can be installed on the e2 2 speed. There are holes already there that just need to be drilled out and there is even a connection plug from what I have been told...That would be cool to have |
Post# 138406 , Reply# 220   6/3/2011 at 14:13 (4,704 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 138475 , Reply# 225   6/4/2011 at 11:06 (4,703 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Use use the Rainbow hose to dry out the 2 tanks of the Aquamate and also any fluff on the revolving brush |
Post# 138479 , Reply# 228   6/4/2011 at 13:34 (4,703 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 138521 , Reply# 230   6/4/2011 at 17:12 (4,703 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 139056 , Reply# 232   6/8/2011 at 20:46 (4,699 days old) by recruitu1 ()   |   | |
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Here are some pictures |
Post# 139058 , Reply# 233   6/8/2011 at 20:50 (4,699 days old) by recruitu1 ()   |   | |
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Post# 139184 , Reply# 234   6/9/2011 at 18:53 (4,698 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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Post# 139191 , Reply# 236   6/9/2011 at 20:25 (4,698 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Robert, I guess Josh thinks all dirt and dust never get`s through all Bagged and Bagless vacuums and their fans are always spotless and dust free ? My E2 Gold 2 Speed I have owned since 2003 is spotless inside and not a spec of dust anywhere through out my motor and Hepa Filter .Every machine with proper care will remain clean and run problem free for years .
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Post# 139492 , Reply# 243   6/11/2011 at 22:02 (4,696 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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Rob, I can see where the Rainbow Jet would be fantastic on large windows and mirrors. I'm sure because of the suction that they are completely streak free. Thanks for sharing. |
Post# 139495 , Reply# 244   6/11/2011 at 22:39 (4,696 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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I absolutley love my new Rainbow E2 Onyx 2 speed 2011 model . Pictured is my 2003 E2 Gold 2 speed. The Onyx is an improvment with the new power nozzle with the LED headlights and it really deep cleans . I also got the Rainjet (not used yet) AquaMate also not used yet, The Mate and a Rainmate room air cleaner and a pack of scents from my local distributer.I love the longer hose the extra foot makes a difference. Moves easy with new dolly too . I really wish I didn`t Vacuum so much my rugs were spotless the Rainbow only picked up a tiny bit . If they were trying to sell me the Rainbow based on dirt in my carpet they would not convince me lol . I also like the new switch with the switch lock for the power nozzel . My E2 Gold that was my biggest complaint having to hold and squeeze the switch . If you can buy this Onyx I highly recommend it .
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Post# 139498 , Reply# 245   6/11/2011 at 23:29 (4,696 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Hey thanks Dan. Same here. The most I'm able to pick up with my rainbow for the most part is lots of cat hair and fine dust from dusting......I never have the basin full of mud that I remember my grandma's Rainbow having in the 80s.....It was no time before it was thick crud.
Since you OWN both now, can I ask, is the HEPA filter on the Oynx the same as on the 2 speed? Is the separator the same? Thanks |
Post# 140238 , Reply# 247   6/19/2011 at 13:01 (4,688 days old) by Trebor ()   |   | |
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You could get a deal on the older machine with the new hose/PN set up? |
Post# 140266 , Reply# 248   6/19/2011 at 17:33 (4,688 days old) by Eluxca ()   |   | |
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That's a thought! If time allows tomorrow, I'll visit the distributor and ask. As far as I can tell the two power units are virtually the same. |
Post# 140314 , Reply# 250   6/20/2011 at 14:24 (4,687 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I'll bet it is nice not to deal with two hoses......But over the years, I've worked around that. When I get the Rainbow out, I use the PN on everything first, then put it away while the unit is still running (change water if needed) then get the 14 foot hose out and get everything else.
I do have a DUMB question for Rainbow experts. I was reading a comment on a video on YOUTUBE for Rainbow of a guy doing a short demo of his new 2011 model, and a guy commented that he had way to much water in the basin; that he would need to clean the separator more often.......And I was like, HUH? Isn't that the whole purpose of the dome in the middle? He said that's what he thought too, but his hepa was getting dirty and he took it to the distributor and they said to fill the basin about a half inch BELOW the dome with water, not to the top of the dome..... I wouldn't have given it a second thought.......BUT I remembered seeing the OceanBlue instructional video on their site, and they specifically state to fill the basin with cool water to around 1/2 inch BELOW the dome and NOT to the top of the dome.....I wonder why OceanBlue specifically states this I wonder if the top of the dome is just the "DO NOT GO OVER THIS LINE" warning. I wonder why the dist would tell him that when it says in the Rainbow manual to fill with water to the top of the dome? Here's the vid I'm talking about....Go to 1:28 CLICK HERE TO GO TO mark40511's LINK |
Post# 140442 , Reply# 253   6/21/2011 at 04:58 (4,687 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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Post# 140455 , Reply# 254   6/21/2011 at 10:02 (4,686 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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I always thought so too. But what about when you're using the Rainbow to shampoo your carpets and or squeegee where you start with an empty basin and then the dirty water enters the basin and is sloshing around inside the Rainbow. That water that goes into the basin isn't necessarily going to be even close to being at the top of the dome/fill line until you have been doing it for a while, and that water is dirty too, right? Just a thought.........Then again, I guess it's different because that water entering the basin is already wet, as opposed to dry vacuuming, so I don't know
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Post# 140931 , Reply# 259   6/25/2011 at 16:07 (4,682 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Mark, I PROMISE I will wash the separator after doing all this extra dirty work!!!!! |
Post# 140963 , Reply# 261   6/25/2011 at 22:09 (4,682 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Post# 140990 , Reply# 265   6/26/2011 at 12:31 (4,681 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Yea.....Aaron...........1899.99........You get EVERYTHING I noticed. Aquamate, Rainjet. etc, for the price of what the main machine sells for without the extras, but yet you send the seller a question and get no response. Frankly, I'm not surprised that he didn't respond to you. By the questions you asked, he probably sensed you knew a little more about Rainbow than he felt comfortable with.
He's probably looking to sell to someone with a complete lack of knowledge. If you look at the listing, there is no mention of warranty at all. I guess someone could take a "chance" and buy it for that price to save some money.... I guess the Rainbow's are selling well. Rob was telling me that a friend of his was going to buy a "BLUE" Rainbow hopefully to get a better price, sine the new ones are out, but that they were sold out of the "Blue" ones already....They still have yet to update their website |
Post# 140993 , Reply# 266   6/26/2011 at 13:02 (4,681 days old) by aarons1584 ()   |   | |
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Yea, I sent the same questions again, yesterday, and now the auction is within two hours of ending, and he or she has still not replied, defiantly would not buy. Anyone wanna buy me a new one? ;) |
Post# 143159 , Reply# 273   7/14/2011 at 04:01 (4,664 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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And I have been using my new Rainbow in the dark!It is so neat to see the bright headlights on the powernozzle-and the lights in the water bin. |
Post# 253183 , Reply# 274   10/17/2013 at 17:54 (3,837 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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Last year I saw the demo; but at that time I couldn't afford it Now that the PN has improved even more, I will buy the new Rainbow |
Post# 338317 , Reply# 276   11/30/2015 at 18:37 (3,063 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 338319 , Reply# 278   11/30/2015 at 19:39 (3,063 days old) by Ctvacman (CT)   |   | |
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But eBay is good also. With ebays buyer protection you can always return if it's not as described. They usually never break so a warranty is kinda useless anyways. |
Post# 338389 , Reply# 279   12/1/2015 at 21:59 (3,062 days old) by ralph123 (Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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So what is KirbyLoverDan's ebay store name? Is he liquidating his collection? |
Post# 338449 , Reply# 280   12/2/2015 at 18:11 (3,061 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )   |   | |
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Post# 340351 , Reply# 281   12/31/2015 at 16:57 (3,032 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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I just bought the new Onyx e3 & love it! Mine has the improved side belt PN & got the RainJet, AquaMate, two RainbowMates (1 for sofa & mattresses only, the 2nd one just for the car) & two RainMates |
Post# 340354 , Reply# 282   12/31/2015 at 18:09 (3,032 days old) by Miskini (Northville, Michigan )   |   | |
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