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Post# 130325   4/2/2011 at 16:52 (4,765 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        

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I was at an upscale shopping area this morning and noticed that the Oreck store has closed. This is the 2nd local store to close recently. Anything going on?


Post# 130348 , Reply# 1   4/2/2011 at 18:48 (4,765 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana)        
Same thing...

has happened on the northside of Indy.The two stores I know about are gone.No explanation...slame,gone,done.Go figure.

Post# 130350 , Reply# 2   4/2/2011 at 18:53 (4,765 days old) by henry200 (Saint Paul MN)        

A number of Oreck stores around the cities here have closed in the last year or two. I think there were just too many in proportion to the amount of business they generated.

Post# 130357 , Reply# 3   4/2/2011 at 20:07 (4,765 days old) by Oreck_XL (Brooklyn, New York 11211)        

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Oreck is marketed through so many channels today, my guess is it's hard to stay in business. Repairs keep the lights on, but sales are their real bread and butter. Now, they're even sold in stores at big box retailers. An unfortunate sign of the times....

Post# 130361 , Reply# 4   4/2/2011 at 20:46 (4,765 days old) by magic-clean (FL-GA)        
While in

Nashville earlier this week, I peeked in the window of an Oreck shop across from the Cool Springs Mall. Seemed like a good (busy) location as there is a Bed Bath & Beyond, Office Depot, TJ Maxx and some eateries in the same shopping center. Anyway; In addition to Oreck products, they had a small display of Miele.

Seemed odd as there were no window signs or banners mentioning Miele in the store. Maybe they were in the process of getting their display in order.


Post# 130383 , Reply# 5   4/2/2011 at 22:34 (4,765 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        
Store in West Jordan, Utah is gone

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The Oreck franchise in Utah had a store in an upscale development in the next town south of me. The huge shopping complex is called Jordan Landing. I worked for the Oreck stores at the time the Jordan Landing store opened. Oreck required it franchise owners to decorate new or remodeled store to a certain standard. They even required that their own decorators be used. That store cost my bosses a mint. It never made a profit while I worked for them. Now, it's closed. I have not checked the other Utah area stores, but the one at Jordan Landing was supposed to be their Flag Ship Store, I'm sorry to say that it was never more than a White Elephant. I'm sorry to see it gone.
Justin


Post# 130405 , Reply# 6   4/3/2011 at 02:13 (4,765 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Oreck Stores

Michael,
Did you notice that our store on the Northside moved and is now selling Miele's too. I was surprised.


Post# 130416 , Reply# 7   4/3/2011 at 09:04 (4,765 days old) by vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.)        
Oreck/Miele

Oreck has decided to add another line of vacuums, and the powers that be chose Miele. The local ownership of our seven stores here has met with the Miele rep once, and she's due to come back in a couple of weeks to see if they're going to start selling them here. We only have one Miele store here in the St. Louis area, and Bed Bath and Beyond have them too. Oreck is already in Target, Costco, and soon Sears, so if they want to keep their stores alive, I think it's a smart move to add another line. I spoke with Andy Weter, our club Miele guru, and he is pumped about the additional exposure. Andy told me what models are being offered to Oreck, but I don't remember the model names, but there will be a nice price range, starting with a straight suction canister for $299.00. Some of the other Oreck stores in other cities have started selling Miele already, but haven't heard how it's going.

Post# 130418 , Reply# 8   4/3/2011 at 09:35 (4,765 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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The addition of Miele is equivalent to the final gasps before the death of the Oreck store. They are desperate to do anything to save their life. In reality, its just another vegetable on life support.

Unfortunately, MOST (not all) Oreck store staff has no clue about anything other than Oreck. They have no clue how to repair anything but Oreck. They aren't true vacuum people who have studied and appreciated vacuums for years and years. I hate to see Miele tarnish their name by sticking the product in a dying medium. The ONLY way to make money in vacuum cleaners is to work on ALL makes and models, and to sell ALL makes and models.



Post# 130431 , Reply# 9   4/3/2011 at 12:55 (4,765 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        
Ok, ok, ok, ok.

So, I've reviewed what was marked as offensive, and while I personally was not offended by what was said, I can see how others may have been. There are plenty of folks who like Orecks, and some here even work for them or have close ties to those who do.

What was said was enough for 7 people to click the button to mark the thread as offensive, so it stands.

Sometime this next week, I'm going to be changing it to 3 or 4 hits of the button. If 3 or 4 people feel something isn't right, that's enough, in my opinion, to justify removal until I can examine what was said and removed.

If what was said in today's thread which was removed had been phrased from the beginning with a simple "in my opinion" -- folks might not have taken offense to it.


Post# 130737 , Reply# 10   4/5/2011 at 04:57 (4,763 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I think the low priced vacuums sold thru Wal-Mart,Target,BBB,Sears,Kohls,and so on are killing the Oreck places.and the hard economic times.Is there any way we can see what the deleted poster said?just wanted to see what he had to say-good or bad.I see this on this site and the Appliance one that your curiousity is picked."What did he say"?

Post# 130748 , Reply# 11   4/5/2011 at 08:27 (4,763 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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I guess in order not to offend you "experts" anymore, I have requested to be removed from the forum. Any of my friends on here can contact me via email or facebook.

Post# 130751 , Reply# 12   4/5/2011 at 10:51 (4,763 days old) by Trebor ()        
Oreck stores

The Oreck store in Fort Wayne has closed as well. I knew the previous licensee who ran the store profitably, but he was always at odds with Oreck HQ.
1) Oreck demands payment upfront BEFORE anything is shipped
2) The shipping was horribly, inexcusably slow
3) The Oreck powers that be did not believe in the accounting concept of 'cost of carrying goods' once you bought inventory it was always an asset according to them.
4) Stores were to carry enough of everything (even items that did not sell) so at to never run out. Tom had hundreds of dollars of bags and belts on order and still filled orders by buying from ESSCO (who always had priority over the stores)

The most recent Fort Wayne licensee is a man who had multiple stores in OH, and some multi-line stores there as well. Oreck saw their sales of upper end models dropping off. The big box offerings were to garner that end of the market. People who were shopping multi-line stores were not being encouraged to buy Orecks, and so many never set foot in an Oreck only store. The only viable option was to move into multi line stores and/or convert Oreck only into multi-line stores.

The vac shop who picked up the Oreck line became the reps #1 store in less then 30 days, and sales continue to soar, stocking only 4 models of uprights, two air cleaners, and one steamer. The Oreck stand alone stores were merely a phase in their long range marketing plans, and watch, the Oreck/Miele stores will vanish or become full fledged multi-line stores as well.


Post# 131182 , Reply# 13   4/7/2011 at 12:15 (4,761 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
Orecks @ Target in the Houston TX area....

Are already marked down for liquidation. It backfired on Target because they sold vacuums in the stores, but not the bags.

Post# 131188 , Reply# 14   4/7/2011 at 13:28 (4,760 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
Oreck

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QVC actually sells Orecks and have for some time. I don't own an Oreck, but have visited their website from time to time. Has Oreck reduced their prices on some of the models on their website???? QVC always adds something to their sale price or has a Today's Special Value price.

 

 

Bud


Post# 131192 , Reply# 15   4/7/2011 at 14:49 (4,760 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)        

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I was at my local vac store today who is an authorized Miele dealer and does quite a good business. Fred S. and Tania V. have both been to the store with me.

The owner told me today that Oreck sold out earlier this year but he could not remember who bought the company. He went on to say that Miele is purchasing Oreck to have the distribution centers that are already established all over the US. It seems both vacuums will be sold.

From what he said, the official transaction has not taken place but it would appear it is only a short time away. He not too happy about this as it will hurt independent Miele dealers such as himself.

He also said you can buy Orecks in some of the big box stores. I had no idea about this either. I called Fred S. to see what he knew and he was going to do some checking as he has very good connections in the business.

I guess mergers can happen in any business. Survival of the fittest--sort of.

Charlie


Post# 131223 , Reply# 16   4/7/2011 at 20:58 (4,760 days old) by vac_whisperer ()        
Scvacuumguy (Chris)

Well, thats too bad... I really enjoyed your posts. :(

VW


Post# 131233 , Reply# 17   4/7/2011 at 22:18 (4,760 days old) by Elux89 ()        
SCVACUUMGUY

I was of the impression that in the US constitution, there was a thing called freedom of speech. I did not know that this website was edited from the Kremlin.

Post# 131241 , Reply# 18   4/7/2011 at 23:01 (4,760 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

Nope, sorry, Elux89. You're creating unnecessary drama by offering your opinion on this topic. Just when this thread was beginning to flourish and get back on-topic, you had to bring this up again. Please see this thread for my decision about what *already* happened in this Oreck store thread.  If you don't like it, too bad.  Nobody is asking for your opinion about it.  I'm warning you ONLY ONCE. 

 

Freedom of speech is not applicable on this privately run website, when what is said creates unwarranted drama; which is clearly stated in our rules.

 

If you have problems with how I'm running this website, take it to my private email.  The boards are not the place for it.


Post# 131244 , Reply# 19   4/8/2011 at 00:07 (4,760 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

Back on topic... I heard back from my "source" ... He hadn't had it confirmed that Miele was buying Oreck; only that there were going to be some stores that were to start carrying Miele vacuums -- and that some had already started doing so. 

 

I'll definitely keep my ear to the ground, though. 

 

Thanks for the info, Charlie.

 

~Fred


Post# 131259 , Reply# 20   4/8/2011 at 07:10 (4,760 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA)        

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That is interesting Charlie. Our local Oreck store went out of business last year. He indicated at that time (June or July) that Oreck was going to be sold. He was not happy at the time and he indicated that Dave Oreck's family was running the company into the ground.

He also thought they were coming out with a new line of canisters...which from what I hear has happened.

Oreck is a good vacuum. They have their place in the market.

Morgan





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