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Post# 12232   4/8/2007 at 14:53 (6,220 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT)        

Is there a way to tighten the spring that pulls in the cord on a model G? I have two of them and the one with a replacement cord works great. The other one that has what I believe is the original cord doesn't rewind very well. You have to work it a ton to get all of the cord in. Is there a way to fix this? Do these just get weak as they age?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Nicholas

Post# 12235 , Reply# 1   4/8/2007 at 15:09 (6,220 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Hi

 I don't know the answer to your question, but there's one thing that is good preventive maintenance on Lux cordwinders- or any others, for that matter. DON'T just tug on the cord and let it whiplash its way back into the cleaner- slow and guide it with your hand. If you let it go "WHAP!" back into the cleaner, you will eventually cause the moulded-on factory electric plug to separate from the cord, necessitating a replacement. My Diamond Jubilee has this problem at the moment (former owner- don't look at me). For right now, I have a hardware-store replacement plug on that machine, but eventually, I have some work to do replacing the entire cord.

Post# 12237 , Reply# 2   4/8/2007 at 15:55 (6,220 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
constellation86

 Is the cordwinder catching a lot or has it just lost it's pull? In other words, does it stop several times, like it's supposed to do when you want it to, or super sluggish pulling the cord back in? Let me know. Rick

Post# 12275 , Reply# 3   4/8/2007 at 21:56 (6,220 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT)        

Rick, I think that the problem is that it is sluggish. It works fine for most of the cord, but the last few feet go in real slow. When it goes in slow like this any resistance at all on the cord and it will catch. Then you have to pull on it to start it over. It goes back and forth like this for a long time. I usually give up with a couple feet still poking out. I have only had it all the way in twice since I got the machine. I'm pretty sure it just needs more power to pull it in properly.
I hope I described it well. If you need more let me know. Thanks for the reply.
Nicholas
P. S. Is it safe to take the cord winder apart? I don't want a spring to hit me in the face or something. :)

Post# 12311 , Reply# 4   4/9/2007 at 17:56 (6,219 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Try this....

 No springs are going to shoot out of the cordwinder. After you have removed your bumper strips from the cordwinder, (they sort of slide toward the center of the aluminum casting and "unlock"), there will be two screws exposed. Remove those screws and remove the cordwinder, while holding the cord's plug and plastic grommet keeping it with the winder. This is a good time to clean out anything dusty etc. from this area. I would clean off the two brass rings that make contact with the brass brushes that have remained in the other half of the G's rear assembly, you can put a little light grease on these areas just before you reassemble the two halves. Squirt a tiny bit of WD-40 or similar product right at the snap ring that holds the cord "reel" in the casting. Then, pull up on the plug and grommet and turn the plug, grommet, cord, and cord reel one turn counterclockwise. Re-insert the plug and grommet in it's place, and turn the entire unit up as it would appear on the machine, pull the cord a few times to see if it is working any better. It should. When you feel that it's working better, pull the cord all the way out, as if you were going to use the machine. Just above, and underneath the cord reel, is the spring, it should look a lot smaller than it did before you pulled the cord out. If you've got plenty of spring left on the spring "spool", give the reel one more counter-clockwise spin as described before, (cord and plug out of winder). This should fix your problem. Let me know how we did..... Rick

Post# 12337 , Reply# 5   4/9/2007 at 23:40 (6,219 days old) by charles~richard ()        
Electrolux G Cord Reel Mishaps

 I don't fool with Model G cord reels anymore, because the couple of times I did, I had tragic mishaps. When I removed the cord reel from the machine, both times there was a "byyyyrrrrronnnnng" sound, the reel went spinning madly shooting the cord out all over the place. When I wound the cord back around the spool, there was no tension left at all in the winding mechanism.

So, Rick, can you tell me what I did wrong and/or how to avoid this?

Thx

Post# 12357 , Reply# 6   4/10/2007 at 06:12 (6,219 days old) by laspirateur ()        

Rick,

I've done exactly what you've very articulately described with all of my donut cordwinders and had great success. My only caveat is that I've found that it's very tricky reseating that %$3$@@%#!! spring coil spool properly. I don't know what the exact maneuver is, but if you don't seat it on the spoke just right, the cover doesn't go back on (which, of course, caused a small major freak-out). Can you elucidate?

Post# 12360 , Reply# 7   4/10/2007 at 07:38 (6,219 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT)        
Success!

 I got it working much better now. Thanks for the help Rick. I could have looked for years and never found the screws under the bump strips.
I would caution anyone to be careful to make sure that there is still a few wraps of spring left on the small spool when the cord is all the way out! I got greedy and turned it three times... sproing! It turned a half hour job into an hour and a half job. Oh well I learned how not to do it! Everything turned out ok, no injuries or damage! Just a pain to rewind the spring.
Nicholas

Post# 12362 , Reply# 8   4/10/2007 at 10:52 (6,219 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Diamond Jubilee:

 I need to replace the cord on my Diamond Jubilee; its moulded plug has been replaced by a universal hardware-store plug. Does anyone know how that one (same as on 1205, Olympia, Silverado, etc.) gets done?

Thanks!

Post# 12373 , Reply# 9   4/10/2007 at 14:58 (6,218 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
What I described earlier

 does not require the removal of the spring. That can get tricky. When you remove the cord reel you must remove the spring at the same time, and hold on to both of them!Once they are removed you can carefully wind the entire spring back on to the spring spool to change the cord, service the reel and spool etc., without incident. But you have to work slowly and methodically. You need to count how many turns the spring was wound around the cord reel, and wind it back much the same way the moon rotates around the earth, the same number of turns. When you have completed the reassembly and pull on the cord to see how you've done, the cord reel and the spring spool should go in opposite directions of each other. There should be three to four turns of spring on the reel when you put it back together, and very few turns on the spring spool with the cord all the way extended. If you think you are going to far, let the cord wind up, and, while holding the plug turn it back one or two turns to put more spring back on the spring spool. Once again, slowly. The unit was designed so that no matter what position the spring/reel are in in terms of cord length, the tension is always the same. However,as things age I'm sure metal fatigue affects the spring where it needs a little adjusting. To change cords, you will notice that the cord is tied in one loop around the cord reel, so that when completely pulled out, you are not pulling on the actual electrical conections. On the G, you must remove two screws and a small cover to get to the wires. They can either clip, or be soldered on to the terminals of the brass rings. One thing to remember, if you have to, draw a picture of the way things look as you disassemble the unit, write down the number of turns, the direction the cord unwinds from the reel etc. That way you will only have to put it back together one time. The mechanism is almost identical in 1205's up, except of course, there is no blower donut. and you remove a plastic cover to expose reel and spring and the reel is held in place with an "E" clip, or when it shoots off the shaft, it's an "F" clip! The wires on the cord clip onto the brass rings on the inside of the reel and is easier to work on then the "G". When putting the unit back together, you will also need to put the catch "pawls", or pawl back into position so that they willl work properly. They will also prevent you from getting the reel all the way back in too.Most of the time it is easier to work on these cordwinders flat, as if the vacuum were standing on it's end, the pawls are less likley to move then. I have never had to work on an old-style cordwinder found on XXX through at least AE's that are the detachable type. The most I have ever done with those was to move a good cord and reel assembly into a newly painted or undented cover. I know the spring is inside the reel on those, but have not had to take one apart yet. If I can help anymore, keep posting, I'll try to help when I can.

Post# 12379 , Reply# 10   4/10/2007 at 16:21 (6,218 days old) by vacjwt ()        
I have done this many times

it works grate and is much cheper than replaceing your cord winder lol


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