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Post# 128077 , Reply# 2   3/21/2011 at 20:17 (4,756 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)   |   | |
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Charlie, Did you notice that your picture has NO name on the side of the machine but there is a youtube showing the new Aerus and it clearly has in big bold letters "Aerus" on the side trim. |
Post# 128086 , Reply# 3   3/21/2011 at 21:00 (4,756 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)   |   | |
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I went and checked this machine out in person last week. The one on display did NOT have Aerus on the side strips (that was disappointing). I feel like Joe Urso has allowed Aerus to take several steps backwards. Yes it looks very sleek on top, yes it has a tiny HEPA filter, yes it has a great power nozzle.
The new guardian is not unique when compared to the Legacy. The Legacy actually looks like a more substantial machine to the average consumer (bigger=better). The cost saving method of employing the SAME mold used for the classic, legacy and guardian is going to harm Aerus in the longrun. There is a retail of $1999 on the Guardian and $1299 on the Legacy. Is it really worth the extra $700 to have a hepa filter and maybe a slightly more powerful motor. I'm not sure that the motor in the Guardian is any different from the Epic- at least the Aerus employee didn't indicate. The other thing that really gets me is the new Lite-Lux. It is a Hoover light weight (C1320) with a white body and Lux written on the grey bag. To give you an idea of how much we pay for the C1320, it is normally sold by online bulk stores for $109.99. Aerus wants $499 for the Lux Lite (same motor, same housings, same bag). Aerus still makes an awesome sounding and looking power nozzle, and I love the design of the canisters. I feel that it is inevitable that they are selling out to some cheap manufacturing tactics that will come back to bite them in the long run. |
Post# 128119 , Reply# 5   3/21/2011 at 23:15 (4,756 days old) by Elux89 ()   |   | |
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In regards to the Guardian Ultra, Legacy, Classic, they all have the same motor. |
Post# 128121 , Reply# 6   3/21/2011 at 23:24 (4,756 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)   |   | |
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Post# 128130 , Reply# 8   3/22/2011 at 00:56 (4,756 days old) by Elux89 ()   |   | |
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Charles, This is very typical of the single stage motors that are used in most machines today. I'm assuming it's from the excessive rpms, ie 30,000 vs 20,000. |
Post# 128132 , Reply# 9   3/22/2011 at 01:19 (4,756 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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I briefly had the Lux Guardian and I was really disappointed with the suction, it seemed the HEPA filter just choked off its suction. I was in the Aerus store a week or two ago and the Guardian Ultra that was on display did have Aerus written on the bumpers. Charles I took that same brochure from the dealership and the missing logo on the side was one of the first things I noticed too. I haven't had the chance to try the Ultra yet but it really doesnt appeal to me. If you want a beautiful modern Electrolux then the Renaissance/Epic 8000 is it. My Renaissance has decent power and although it doesnt have HEPA filtration, it does have a variable speed motor, covered tools, control in handle, and a more solidly built body when compared to the egg shell machines. As scvacuumguy said above, Aerus is going to have a hard time justifying the $700 price difference from the Legacy, especially when it lacks all added features that the Guardian had. Cost saving is one thing, but price gouging is a whole other story. And what premium vacuum company would design a new TOL machine with a 20 foot cord?! This is an American company and homes in America have grown larger and larger over the years, why on earth would they put a mere 20 ft cord in the machine when the R-style machines had a 28 foot cord? Do they not realize how annoying it is to constantly be moving to different outlets? My only hope is that Aerus will revive the R-style machines using the newer motor(maybe a more quiet motor too) and a better HEPA filter design, then they would have a machine which would be worth paying $1999.
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Post# 128140 , Reply# 10   3/22/2011 at 06:59 (4,755 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I know some of you do not give value to Consumer Reports vacuum ratings, but for what it's worth, the Lux Guardian Ultra only rated a "good" in carpet cleaning. There were at least 5 other power nozzle canisters that were better at carpet cleaning, and were half the price (for example, the highly-rated Electrolux Oxygen EL6988 which was "excellent" at carpet cleaning for only $430). On the positive side, the Guardian Ultra rated an "excellent" at bare floor cleaning, removal of pet hair from carpets and emissions control. But so did many other canisters at half the price.
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Post# 128193 , Reply# 13   3/22/2011 at 17:49 (4,755 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I had this vacuum and it has way too much power with a very small relief valve. Impossible to use the sidekick on the bedspread or sofa. You also cannot vacuum your drapes, it will suck it in and wrinkle them.
Also I reported a vacuum bag problem to Aerus, it separates the inner liner from the outer bag. Aerus actually had me send them samples, which I did. They said they were having the problem corrected but it would not affect filtration. That is bull if it leaves the outer bag exposed to debree. I have been using the DVC Brand Type C bags in my other Electroluxes since then. By the way, they sent me another box of 24 bags and they had the same problem. So I gave this vacuum to my newphew who just purchased his first home and bought the Lux Legacy. Air escapes through the handle of the vacuum. I am done with Aerus until they can correct quality control and realize they need a variable speed motor for their top of the line cleaner. I am truly an Electrolux and Kirby fan, but this is not tollerable. Bud |
Post# 128196 , Reply# 14   3/22/2011 at 18:06 (4,755 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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I was wondering, how do you edit your photos like that? is it photoshop or is it some other program? VW |
Post# 128197 , Reply# 15   3/22/2011 at 18:12 (4,755 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 128231 , Reply# 18   3/22/2011 at 20:50 (4,755 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 128269 , Reply# 20   3/23/2011 at 08:41 (4,754 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)   |   | |
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Post# 128352 , Reply# 21   3/23/2011 at 18:30 (4,754 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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I love any Aerus Electolux products, Have a Lux central, Legacy, Diamond Jub, xxx ,AF , floor pro and guardian air...Love the look of the new Ultra. |