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Post# 125153   2/16/2011 at 04:18 (4,814 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana)        

Does anyone have or used a vac called a Henry.I saw one on a PBS British show being used.It is a canister and appeared to be straight suction.Are they a good vac and are they in the states? Michael

Post# 125156 , Reply# 1   2/16/2011 at 05:46 (4,814 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Henry vacs are pretty common here in the UK, I personally wouldn't consider them that great, they only really sell well cos of the cute face and the name. The current models share similar Ametek motors to the late Compacts and Tristars (up to I think the DXL where they swapped for a cheaper less powerful motor), so do have a bit more oomph than they used to, but they are predominately just straight-suction machines.

There is the Henry Hound model which comes with a pretty basic PN, made I think by WesselWerk, better than straight suction, but I don't think it'd be on par with most american machines...

They also have other models in the Numatic lineup, such as the Hetty (same as Henry, but pink and girly), George, James, Charles, and looking at their website, they also have "Harry" too, so, they do get about!!!

There's also their lineup of professional and commercial machines which often look like they stuck a henry motor onto an oil drum, so they have quite a collection of vacuum cleaners... :)

And no, I don't own one myself (well, except one of their little desktop toy ones), though my Tristar CXL does have a motor that was made for a Henry in it... :)


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Post# 125158 , Reply# 2   2/16/2011 at 06:56 (4,814 days old) by James (Ware, Hertfordshire, UK)        

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As twocvbloke said they are very common here.
I have quite a collection of various numatics, still on the look out for more though :)

Not too bad a vacuum, I like them!
They do an airobrush turbo head too which really helps getting pet hair etcc off the carpet.

They did do an upright called the swift.


Post# 125165 , Reply# 3   2/16/2011 at 09:04 (4,814 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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There is a Henry sold in the UK with the identical turbo carpet nozzle that TTI sold with the new Constellation a few years back - this turbo nozzle works really well in removal of surface litter from any kind of carpet. I really am impressed with the performance it provides.

I think another neat feature on the Henry vacs is that some of them feature a manual cord reel! You just turn the provided handle and the cord is wound up inside....kinda cool if you ask me!

Here's the Henry with the Constellation's turbo nozzle:


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Post# 125167 , Reply# 4   2/16/2011 at 09:14 (4,814 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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This promotional video is soooo cute! Click on the "video" tab on this webpage and then hit the button that says "Play Henry High Quality Video"....

You know, I don't care how it performs...I think all vac-lovers should have a Henry in his/her collection - the smile emblazoned on the vac really reflects our love of the vacuum cleaner!


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Post# 125187 , Reply# 5   2/16/2011 at 15:11 (4,814 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Like I say, it's the face that sells them... :P

Post# 125189 , Reply# 6   2/16/2011 at 15:17 (4,814 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Oh, just so you know, there are some models with a 110v motor fitted on ebay, often with a giant yellow 110v plug on the end of the cable, so if you find one of them, then they would work happily in the US & Canada with only a change of plug needed... :)

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Post# 125305 , Reply# 7   2/17/2011 at 19:37 (4,813 days old) by pinkge (Indianapolis,Indiana)        
Thank you...

Guy's,for all the infor.and input on the Henry's.I did go on line and look at there web site and I might order a Henry.They look cool and nodoubt the face sell's it,plus all the new features,a total green machines,again,Thanks,Michael

Post# 125350 , Reply# 8   2/18/2011 at 13:50 (4,812 days old) by sebox4 ()        
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My parent's have one, a Hetty. They have very strong suction, huge dust bags and are very well made and simple.

They have the airobrush, it is indeed very effective, about on par with my Filter Queen with the power nozzle. Has more suction than the Filter Queen which helps I guess.

The airobrush is very similar in appearence to the one that comes with the new constellation, but the bristles are a lot stiffer and are fixed, so they get deeper into the carpet and pick up a lot more.

They do also do a model with a power nozzle as has been said, and I believe you can get a rechargeable battery operated power nozzle for them (which I want to get for my parent's)

Not to mention, you can get one for around £100 here, so they're very good value for money too!

Matt


Post# 125356 , Reply# 9   2/18/2011 at 14:57 (4,812 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Like I say, it's the face that sells them

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I disagree completely. Numatic machines are reliable, high performing and reasonably priced machines. My Dad has a 1981 Henry still in use and it's still a fantastic machine. They sell because they're reliable, well made and high performing machines and continue to prove this day in, day out. I use my Henry when I'm giving my house a really good top-bottom clean.

Post# 125360 , Reply# 10   2/18/2011 at 17:40 (4,812 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
My cousin has one

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in Ireland.... replaced a HOOVER jr. Her daughter had an Electrolux.. it died. hmmmmmm

Post# 125364 , Reply# 11   2/18/2011 at 18:36 (4,812 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        

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Numatic manufacture excellent machines, especially Henry and the NVQ and NQS series.

The older 120V machines used Panasonic motors. There was a two-stage version (used in the machines manufactured in Dorset), they then switched to a single stage version with a similar frame. Sometime around 1998 - 1999 they switched to a smaller single stage version (similar to the Panasonic-made motor used in the Kenmore Elegance, Progressive, Whispertone, etc.). Those motors have not stood up well in commercial use, and a lot have been replaced.

The newer "twinflo" machines all use two-stage Ametek Lamb motors with a tapered lower fan. The motor design has evolved from the 116311-01.

Henry's are very popular here in BC. Most of our government buildings, school districts, hospitals and BC Ferries use them.


Post# 125389 , Reply# 12   2/19/2011 at 00:26 (4,812 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"I disagree completely"

I've asked people who have Henry (or other Numatic) vacs (non-collectors, just average users), and the main reason they bought one was because "it looked cute", and it's the main reason why Numatic still use the cheeky smile today... :)

I'm not doubting their performance (though past Numatics I have used have often been rather weak), cos my Tristar has the same motor fitted, and it's more powerful than it was than when it lived in the US, it's just they have a unique marketing technique that tugs at the heartstrings of some people... :)


Post# 125422 , Reply# 13   2/19/2011 at 11:58 (4,811 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
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It should be remembered that Henry came from the commercial market and it retains a lot of that ancestry. I thought they were average performers and much better on short pile carpets that deeper pile. Having said that they have a good length hose and flex and seem to be very reliable. Twocvbloke, I think you will have a hard job exceeding the suction of the Tristar, same motor or not, it is one of the best cleaners I have ever used - I love mine :)

Post# 125424 , Reply# 14   2/19/2011 at 12:09 (4,811 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

My Tristar was fitted with a slightly different motor back in the US, but the difference is, the motor I used, which was meant for a Henry HVR200, and the Henry motor has tapered fins, whereas the original had flat fins. The video I uploaded to youtube after I assembled the tristar, the former owner told me that he couldn't do the thing with the hose or pull the vac along with the suction alone, so the power had increased for sure... :)

Post# 125425 , Reply# 15   2/19/2011 at 12:15 (4,811 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Forgot the link to the vid....

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Post# 125455 , Reply# 16   2/19/2011 at 18:38 (4,811 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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As cute as they are, it seems that the Henry vacs suffer from the same problem lots of other contemporary canister vacs have: no place to store the tools on board. Do I have this correct? I scoured the Numatic website to see if I could find a place where the Henry's can carry their tools, but could not find any. Am I missing something here?

Post# 125464 , Reply# 17   2/19/2011 at 20:59 (4,811 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        

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The residential Henry's with 1 1/4" (32mm) fittings come with three removable clips to attach the dusting brush, upholstery brush and crevice tool to any position on the lip of bumper.
Commercial Henry's with 1 1/2" (38mm) fittings do not come with any small accessories.


Post# 125478 , Reply# 18   2/19/2011 at 23:36 (4,811 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Some of the Commercial Henry vacs, or just plain Numatics, have a tool storage setup on the top, I think, unless it was some other lookalike vac... :S

This Numatic is what I used to use when working for a local computer shop, it's the one I found to be rather weak and in all honesty, pretty poor performing, it was great for cleaning out dust-encrusted computers (no threat of sucking jumpers off the motherboards), but cleaning the floors with it, well, lets just say it took several seconds for a small screw to reach the bag... :S

Note the US-style polarised 2-pin socket on the back of the handle, just where the cable enters the vac, I do believe that is or a PN, though I haven't personally seen a PN for that model, yet it has an outlet for one.... :)


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Post# 125479 , Reply# 19   2/19/2011 at 23:50 (4,811 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Thanks for that answer Scott!

Post# 125535 , Reply# 20   2/20/2011 at 16:37 (4,810 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
no place to store the tools on board. Do I have this correct

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Correct. And my biggest annoyance of Numatic machines. Some of the commercial machines and the James have a "tool caddy" on top instead of having cord rewind, but these aren't very effective. Numatic machines are becoming more and more popular in people's homes. Numatic now supply a sort of cloth bag to store all the attachments in, but this is not ideal as you have to carry it around with you when you're vacuuming.

Post# 125538 , Reply# 21   2/20/2011 at 17:25 (4,810 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Thanks for that post Chris - this is an ongoing problem now with so many canisters! And I don't like the newfangled ideas for storing tools either - those "on-the-wand" clips get in the way of cleaning under beds and in tight spaces, and storing the tools on bumper clips just defeats the purpose of the bumper.....these tools that hang on for dear life (even the new Hoover/Maytag Constellation suffers from this) can easily scratch walls and furniture as the canister is dragged through the home.

What happened to those lovely covered tool compartments? You'd think that Numatic could figure out how to make a "tool garden" fit on top of the cord reel.....or do what Karcher does and place them in a side compartment......


Post# 125595 , Reply# 22   2/21/2011 at 09:32 (4,809 days old) by HenryDreyfuss (Ohio)        
I love my Henry!

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I imported a Numatic Henry last year, and have been very impressed with it! It had a funky round plug on it that I had to swap with a standard US plug. It's got incredible suction and airflow, and I love the big bags and filter. The hand-cranked cord reel is fun too! It came with a cheapo set of tools, but it also came with a converter, so any fit-all attachemnts work with it. It's very quiet on both speeds, and I imagine it would hold up well in serious use.

I bought a Turbocat Zoom just to use with the Henry, and it works great! Doesn't bog down at all, and lifts the nap beautifully. My non-vacuum friends always notice and mention Henry smiling in the hallway. He's quite a conversation piece!



Post# 125596 , Reply# 23   2/21/2011 at 09:39 (4,809 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"It had a funky round plug on it"

That'll be a standard UK 110v site transformer plug, they're ugly and cumbersome things, but usually they're used on building sites or wherever they need an isolating transformer to reduce the chance of overload and electric shock, seeing how building sites are often outside and rather wet.... :)

The funky round plug:


Post# 125793 , Reply# 24   2/23/2011 at 13:09 (4,807 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
Yep! That's the one!

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I saved the plug to show to my American friends... They, like myself, had never seen anything like it!

Post# 125794 , Reply# 25   2/23/2011 at 13:34 (4,807 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Going commando

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No, not THAT :)

The correct name for this plug is a Commando Plug, which is used not only on building sites (connected to a generator or transformer) but also in other commercial applications where a heavy duty supply is required but easy physical disconnection is needed, such as moving the item for cleaning. They have more pins when used for three phase applications.



Al


Post# 125795 , Reply# 26   2/23/2011 at 13:44 (4,807 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

I've seen several versions of the plug, one as low as 12 Volts, but they're still cumbersome for the purpose, and most are only rated as IP44 for water and weather protection, there is another name for them, but I've forgotten what that is... :P

Still don't like them myself, whatever the voltage or whether they're single or three phase... :P


Post# 125801 , Reply# 27   2/23/2011 at 15:51 (4,807 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

AH!!! I remembered the other name for those plugs & sockets, Ceeform.... :D


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