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Over filling a Dyson bin
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Post# 124058   2/4/2011 at 20:06 (4,828 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Hi. I know about the issues when a bag vacuum cleaner is continued to be used with a full bag but I'd like to know, wot problems am I creating by not emptying my Dysin as the dirt reaches the max mark?

I have a DC24 and regularly let the whole bin fill to the stop before an empty. Please note that the DC24 has not got the best suction ar the hose but I do not experience any type of suction loss as I've done with a bagged machine, regardless if it's an upright or cylinder.

Thanks in advance.


Post# 124059 , Reply# 1   2/4/2011 at 20:34 (4,828 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I've always thought that the full mark on bagless vacuums are unnecessarily low. I've purposely filled my T-Series Hoover to the point that there was no more room in the canister. No only was it fun but there was only a small decrease in airflow. I don't see anyway of harming the vacuum. I use the Hoover as my main vacuum and I don't think I've harmed it at all. I hope this helped

Post# 124071 , Reply# 2   2/4/2011 at 22:19 (4,828 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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I would guess perhaps filter dirtier faster?? Only a guess.

Post# 124074 , Reply# 3   2/4/2011 at 22:31 (4,828 days old) by professorkiwi ()        

I filled my DC-07 over max line a few times. It's no issue for large particles.

Post# 124083 , Reply# 4   2/5/2011 at 00:29 (4,828 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)        
My two pence...

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Seriously over filling the dirt container regularly is part of the reason my sister-in-law kills bagless vacuums every year. She's had three in the last four years.
Justin


Post# 124086 , Reply# 5   2/5/2011 at 01:17 (4,828 days old) by nick (Hastings, New Zealand)        

the inner cyclone will not have room to operate at peek efficiently resulting in the filters clogging, and airflow reduction that cools the motor

bagless should be emptied after every use, and filters cleaned weekly. vacs with the paper pleated filter should have it tapped clean after each use


Post# 124105 , Reply# 6   2/5/2011 at 09:04 (4,827 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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my dyson filter says 6 months before wash!

Post# 124108 , Reply# 7   2/5/2011 at 10:54 (4,827 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
my dyson filter says 6 months before wash!

So did our DC04's filter, being basically just a sponge, it never did a great job of filtering, cos the HEPA filter was always a horrid colour, not with through carbon dust, but with fine dust that the cheap sponge prefilter just couldn't stop, had the motor not started conking out, I'd have probably made up somehting to replace it using some generic filter material to fit over the sponge to try and stop it plugging up the post filter...

But, I prefer bags, bagless is just too damned messy and so much wirk to deal with for me... :)


Post# 124136 , Reply# 8   2/5/2011 at 19:02 (4,827 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
DC04 Pre-motor filter

Is this not comprised of TWO filters?

1: A blue sponge
2: a white electrostatic filter material, welded to a yellow filter cage.

In my experience, about the only substance that can get past these filters is chimney soot.


Post# 124169 , Reply# 9   2/6/2011 at 07:02 (4,827 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

My Dyson DC24 says wash filters once a month. I tend to wash them every 2 months or so. The filters are much better quality on my DC24 than the DC04 machine I had.

I always had a problem with carbon dust emissions on the back side of the machine when remeoving the bin to clean it. It appeared that the 'Lifetime' post motor filter on the DC04 had let out carbon dust emissions.

The only issue I had with all my Dysons, The DC05, 05, 16 and 24 is that the pre motor filter gets a lot of hair built up that escapes the cyclones. This happens even when I did empty the bin on time.


Post# 124170 , Reply# 10   2/6/2011 at 07:05 (4,827 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

This happened after one month of use and bin was not over filled. The seals and everything on the DC24 is fine. I always found that Dysons struggled in my household to deal with long hairs.

Post# 124194 , Reply# 11   2/6/2011 at 13:55 (4,826 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Long hair

Agreed, the DC05 had problems with long hair. My sister-in-law had one, and that let through her long hair. It wrapped around the vortex-finder aerofoil pinnacle.

What Dyson SHOULD do is launch uprights in the UK that have "Core Separation". Why they haven't, is beyond me!


Post# 124259 , Reply# 12   2/7/2011 at 12:08 (4,825 days old) by blakaeg (NW London, UK)        

Rolls Rapide,

Yep thats the first Dyson I experienced with hair going onto the pre-motor filter. I then had a DC03, this never happened with this machine but the DC04 I had, had the hair going onto the pre motor filter as does the DC16 and DC24. I thought the DC05 had the problem because the cone dips right into the chamber of the machine but obviously this is not a factor.

I find that the DC24 also lets quite a bit of fluffy dust through to the pre motor filter as you can see from the pictire above.



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