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1980-1995 Royal (All-Metal) Upright Model Chart
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Post# 123317   1/29/2011 at 04:45 (4,807 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Here is my spinoff on kirbyvertibles's Hoover Concept model chart, of every post-1980 Royal all-metal upright (to 1995, before drop-in motor assemblies were used). There are several models that I lack any knowledge, so please excuse me if any years by model are wrong.

1985 and older commercial Royals are identified by a dark blue bag with a red embroidered "Royal" logo (with crown) seen horizontally on top, with "COMMERCIAL" read vertically just below that, forming a "T" shape. The decal on the front of the nozzle, starting in 1985, reads "HEAVY DUTY COMMERCIAL" (red text on silver decal, with red border).

1986-early 87 Royal commercial bags were still dark blue in color, but now had the "Royal Five" patch (name is written five times, white text on clear backing), sandwiched by two red rectangles: the Royal crown logo is on the top red rectangle and the duty rating ("COMMERCIAL") is on the bottom red rectangle. On models made after September 1986, the decal on the front of the nozzle is identified by a marquee of Royal logos (white on black), and below that is the duty rating of "HEAVY DUTY COMMERCIAL" in black on white.

Household models (with some exceptions) made after 9/86 instead had a similar decal used on 1982 and later Prince 501 hand vacuums (a white decal with the company's then-current corporate logo, in dark blue). On all household-type models made after April 1990 (except the 882), a new decal (various colors) was used, which reads "ROYAL - COMMERCIAL QUALITY."

Mid-1987 to 2002 models continued to have the 1986-style logo on the bag, but on commercial models the majority of the outer bags (whether shake-out or with back zipper for disposable bags) were gray in color (some were red or black) and the "Royal Five" portion of the logo is now white on dark blue. The decal on the nozzle is the same. Models with the Adjust-O-Rite, when so specified, were red in color. Between 1988-95 there was also the Duke Series, identified by the red denim bags.

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Model 602 (1966-1985)
Light Blue bag, Gray and chrome. Standard headlight, red Adjust-O-Rite plug. Some of the more recent models were tagged "Heavy Duty Commercial."

Model 3.604 (1985-1987)
Medium Blue and chrome. Standard headlight.

Model 607 (1977?-1987)
(Unknown)

Model 608 (1977-1987)
Dark Blue bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray and chrome. Deluxe headlight, red Adjust-O-Rite plug.

Model 611 (1977-1987)
Dark Blue bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray and chrome. Standard (or no) headlight, red Adjust-O-Rite plug.

Model 618 (1985-1987)
Dark Blue bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray and chrome. No headlight. Adjust-O-Rite. 18" wide nozzle for large areas.

Model 654 (1987-1988)
Gray bag (red/blue "Royal Five" logo), gray painted metal housing. No headlight. Standard aluminum cover plate. 5-amp motor.

Model 655 (1988-1990)
Same as model 654.
Also available as Duke 7500.

Model 656 (1990-1995)
Same as model 654/655, but with new 9-blade impeller fan. 5-amp motor.
Also available as Duke 7510.

Model 660/661/662/663 (14" nozzle) (1987-1990)
Gray and chrome (bag has red/blue "Royal Five" logo). Adjust-O-Rite (#660, #662). Headlight (#662, #663). 6-amp motor. #661 and #663 have standard aluminum belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic 5-position toe-touch height adjustment.
Also available as Duke Series 7600/7610/7620/7630 from 1988-1990 (#7600 and #7620 have Adjust-O-Rite and #7620 and #7630 have headlight). #7610 and #7630 have standard belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic 5-position toe-touch height adjustment.

Model 680/681/682/683 (18" wide nozzle) (1987-1990)
Same as 660 series but with 18" wide nozzle for larger areas. Adjust-O-Rite and Rite-Hite on models #680 and #682; standard belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic on models #681 and #683; headlight on #682 and #683.
Also available as Duke Series 7800/7810/7820/7830 from 1988-1990.

Model 670/671/672/673 (14" wide nozzle) (1990-1995)
Replaced prior 660 series, with new 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan. Adjust-O-Rite and Rite-Hite on #670 and #672; standard belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic on #671 and #673; headlight on #672 and #673.
Also available as Duke Series 7700/7710/7720/7730.

Model 690/691/692/693 (18" wide nozzle) (1990-1995)
Replaced prior 680 series, with new 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan. Adjust-O-Rite and Rite-Hite on #690 and #692; standard belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic on #691 and #693; headlight on #692 and #693.
Also available as Duke Series 7900/7910/7920/7930.

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Model 801 (1953-1987)
Beige bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray trim and chrome. Standard headlight. Red Adjust-O-Rite plug. After 9/86, a decal reading "Royal" (with crown, dark blue text on white) was used, applied to the front of the nozzle below the Adjust-O-Rite plug.

Model 880 (1966-1987)
Medium Blue (bag has red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models) and chrome. Deluxe headlight. Decal on front of nozzle (after 9/86) reads "Royal" (with crown, dark blue text on white).

Model 881 (1987-1988)
Medium Blue and chrome (bag has red/clear "Royal Five" logo). No headlight. 18" wide nozzle for larger areas.

Model 882 (1990-1995)
Dark Green and chrome (bag has green/gray "Royal Five" logo). No headlight. Standard plastic belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic 5-position height adjustment.

Model 884 (1987-1988)
Medium Blue and chrome (bag has red/clear "Royal Five" logo).

Model 885 (1988-1990)
Dark Blue and chrome, with either Dark Blue or Gray bag. Logo is the "Royal Five" logo in dark blue, with the crown logo and duty rating ("QUALITY SINCE 1905") on the top and bottom rectangles (medium blue) respectively. Decal on this reads "ROYAL - HEAVY DUTY COMMERCIAL QUALITY").

Model 886 (1987-1990)
Medium Blue and chrome. Also available with Au-Toe-Matic toe-touch height adjustment as model 886F.

Model 887 (1987-1988)
Model 992/993 (1988-1990)
Model 994/995 (1990-1993)
Model 996/997 (1993-1995)
Dark Blue and chrome (bag has medium blue/clear "Royal Five" logo). Dark blue Adjust-O-Rite plug. 6-amp motor and 6-blade impeller fan on models #887/992/993; 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan on models #994-997.

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PREFERRED COLLECTION SERIES

Model 6005, 6805 (1989-1990)
Gray bag (like commercial series, but duty rating instead reads "QUALITY SINCE 1905"). Red Adjust-O-Rite plate (#6805). No headlight. Deluxe wheels with hubcaps. Decal on front of nozzle same as #885.

Model 6103 (1992-1995)
Burgundy bag (logo reads "Preferred Collection by Royal - Quality Since 1905"). 6-amp motor. No headlight. Adjust-O-Rite (burgundy color). Rite-Hite screw-type height adjustment.

Model 8000 (1989-1990)
Mauve bag (Red/blue "Royal Five" logo), Burgundy trim. Deluxe wheels with hubcaps. Deluxe headlight. Rite-Hite screw-type height-adjustment system. Decal protrudes from headlight (reads: "ROYAL - COMMERCIAL QUALITY").

Model Classic 9005 (1989-1990)
Burgundy bag (logo reads "Royal Classic 1989, Quality Since 1905") and trim. Deluxe wheels with hubcaps. Deluxe headlight. 6-amp motor. Front of nozzle has burgundy-colored decal protruding from the machined lines of the headlight (the decal reads "ROYAL - COMMERCIAL QUALITY") Au-Toe-Matic toe-touch height-adjustment system.

Model Classic 9100 (1990-1992)
Same as model #8000 but with 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan.

Model Classic 9700 (1990-1995)
Same as model 9005 but with 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan. By 1993, the decal border no longer protrudes from the headlight.

~Ben


Post# 264519 , Reply# 1   1/23/2014 at 02:49 (3,717 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Updated list:

Model 311 (1966-87)
Dark blue bag. Gray/chrome. No headlight. Straight suction nozzle with stationery brush bristles. 3-wire cord.
Motor sizes: 350 watt (1966-71), 400 watt (1971-75), 3 amp (1975-85), 4.5 amp (spring/summer 1985), 5.4 amp (fall 1985-87)

Model 606 (1966-87)
Gray and chrome. Standard headlight. Blue (1966-76) or red (1976-87) Adjust-O-Rite plug.
Motor sizes: 350 watt (1966-71), 400 watt (1971-75), 3 amp (1975-85), 4.5 amp (spring/summer 1985), 5.4 amp (fall 1985-87)

Model 607 (1977?-87)
(Unknown)
Motor size: 3 amp

Model 608 (1975-87)
Dark Blue bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray and chrome. Deluxe headlight, red Adjust-O-Rite plug.
Motor sizes: 3 amp (1975-80), 4.5 amp (1980-85), 5.4 amp (1985-87)

Model 611 (1973-87)
Dark Blue bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray and chrome. No headlight, red Adjust-O-Rite plug.
Motor sizes: 400 watt (1973-75), 3 amp (1975-80), 4.5 amp (1980-summer 1985), 5.4 amp (fall 1985-87)

Model 618 (1984-87)
Dark Blue bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray and chrome. 6 amp motor. No headlight. Adjust-O-Rite. 18" wide nozzle for large areas.

Model 620 (1984-87)
Same as model 618 but with headlight.

Model 654 (1987-89)
Gray bag (red/blue "Royal Five" logo), gray painted metal housing. No headlight. Standard aluminum cover plate. 4.5-amp motor. Staggered (front-facing) top cord hook used on models made after November 1, 1987.

Model 655 (1989-95)
Same as model 654, but with a 5 amp motor.
Also available as Duke 7500. Gray-painted metal housing. No headlight. Adjust-O-Rite plate. Models made after March 1, 1990 will have a 9-blade impeller fan.

Model 656 (1990-95)
Same as model 655 but with standard plastic belt cover plate instead of Adjust-O-Rite and Au-Toe-Matic toe-touch height adjuster instead of Rite-Hite.
Also available as Duke 7510.

Model 660/662 (14" nozzle) (1987-90)
Gray and chrome (bag has red/blue "Royal Five" logo). Adjust-O-Rite. Headlight (#662). 6-amp motor. Staggered (front-facing) top cord hook used on models produced after October 1, 1987.
Also available as Duke Series 7600/7620 from 1989-90.

Model 680/682 (18" wide nozzle) (1987-90)
Same as 660 series but with 18" wide nozzle for larger areas. Adjust-O-Rite and Rite-Hite. Staggered top cord hook used on models produced after October 1, 1987.
Also available as Duke Series 7800/7820 from 1989-90.

Model 670/671/672/673 (14" wide nozzle) (1990-95)
Replaced prior 660 series, with new 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan. Adjust-O-Rite and Rite-Hite on #670 and #672; standard belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic on #671 and #673; headlight on #672 and #673.
Also available as Duke Series 7700/7710/7720/7730.

Model 690/691/692/693 (18" wide nozzle) (1990-95)
Replaced prior 680 series, with new 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan. Adjust-O-Rite and Rite-Hite on #690 and #692; standard belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic on #691 and #693; headlight on #692 and #693.
Also available as Duke Series 7900/7910/7920/7930.

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HOUSEHOLD MODELS

Model 602 (1966-85)
Light blue bag (1977-82) or tan bag (1982-85), Gray and chrome. Standard headlight, red Adjust-O-Rite plug. Also available for commercial use as model 3-602 with 3-wire cord.

Model 604 (1985-87)
Gray and chrome. Red Adjust-O-Rite plug. 4.5 amp motor. Standard headlight. Also available for commercial use as model 3-604 with 3-wire cord.

Model 784 (1987-89)
Tan bag. Gray trim. Red Adjust-O-Rite plate. 4.5 amp motor. Deluxe headlight (no deodorizer).

Model 786/787 (1986-90) "Prince"
Tan bag. Red trim, AOR plate. 5.4 amp motor. Deluxe headlight (no deodorizer).
Model 787 similar but with 303 attachment set (red tools) included.

Model 801 (1951-87)
Beige bag (red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models), Gray trim and chrome. Standard headlight. Red Adjust-O-Rite plug. After 9/86, a decal reading "Royal" (with crown, dark blue text on white) was used, applied to the front of the nozzle below the Adjust-O-Rite plug.

Model 860 (1986-90) "Prince"
Tan bag. Red trim, AOR plate. 4.5 amp motor. Deluxe headlight (no deodorizer).

Model 870 (1986-90) "Prince II"
Same as model 880.

Model 880 (1966-87)
Medium Blue (bag has red/clear "Royal Five" logo on 1986-87 models) and chrome. Deluxe headlight. Decal on front of nozzle (after 9/86) reads "Royal" (with crown, dark blue text on white).
Motor sizes: 350 watt (1966-71), 400 watt (1971-75), 3 amp (1975-80), 4.5 amp (1980-85), 5.4 amp (summer 1985-87)
Model 903 is similar but with Electro-Hygiene branding (to 1985), red bag (1971-82) or tan bag (1982-87), and red trim/AOR plate.

Model 881 (1987-89)
Medium blue and chrome (bag has red/clear "Royal Five" logo), gray cord, blue AOR plate. Standard headlight. 4.5 amp motor. Swiveling top cord hook used on models produced after January 1, 1988.

Model 882 (1991-95)
Dark Green and chrome (bag has green/gray "Royal Five" logo). No headlight. Standard plastic belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic 5-position height adjustment.

Model 883 (1989-91)
Same as model 881 but with 5 amp motor. Models made after March 1, 1990 will have a 9-blade impeller fan.

Model 884 (1987-91)
Medium Blue and chrome (bag has red/clear "Royal Five" logo). 5.4 amp motor, no crystal deodorizer. Models made after March 1, 1990 will have a 9-blade impeller fan. Swiveling top cord hook used on models made after January 1, 1988.

Model 885 (1989-95)
Dark blue and chrome, with dark blue bag/trim/AOR plate. Gray cord. Logo is the "Royal Five" logo in dark blue, with the crown logo and duty rating ("QUALITY SINCE 1905") on the top and bottom rectangles (medium blue) respectively. Decal on this reads "ROYAL - HEAVY DUTY COMMERCIAL QUALITY"). Models made after March 1, 1990 will have a 9-blade impeller fan.

Model 886/887 (1987-95)
Also available with Au-Toe-Matic toe-touch height adjustment as 886F (1991-95). Light blue trim from 1987-91, dark blue from 1991-95. Models made after March 1, 1990 will have a 9-blade impeller fan. Swiveling top cord hook used on models produced after January 1, 1988.
Model 887 similar to 886 but with 303 attachment set (blue tools) included.

Model 888 "Prestige" (1971-87)
Medium blue and chrome. Removable nozzle.
Motor size: 400 watt (1971-75), 3 amp (1975-80), 4.5 amp (1980-85), 5.4 amp (spring 1985-87)
Model 980 is similar but branded as Electro-Hygiene (to 1985), uses red bag (1971-82) or tan bag (1982-87) and red trim.

Model 889 (1987-88)
Same as model 886/887 but with mauve bag and burgundy trim/cord/AOR plate.

Model 992/993 (1988-90)
Model 994/996 (1990-95), 995 (1990-91)
Dark Blue and chrome (bag has medium blue/clear "Royal Five" logo). Dark blue Adjust-O-Rite plug. Swiveling top cord hook. 6-amp motor and 6-blade impeller fan on models #992/993; 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan on models #994-996. Off-white cord used on models 992/993 produced in 1988.
Models 993 (1988-90) and 996 (1990-95) similar but with 303 attachment set (dark blue tools) included.

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PREFERRED COLLECTION SERIES

Model 6000 (1988-89)
Mauve bag. Burgundy Adjust-O-Rite plate. No headlight. 6 amp motor. Deluxe wheels with hubcaps.

Model 6005 (1989-91)
Gray bag (like commercial series, but duty rating instead reads "QUALITY SINCE 1905"). Burgundy Adjust-O-Rite plate. No headlight. Deluxe wheels with hubcaps. Decal on front of nozzle same as #885. Models made after March 1, 1990 will have a 9-blade impeller fan.

Model 6103 (1991-95)
Burgundy bag (logo reads "Preferred Collection by Royal - Quality Since 1905"). 6-amp motor. No headlight. Adjust-O-Rite (burgundy color). Rite-Hite screw-type height adjustment. Also available as model 6103F with standard plastic belt cover plate and Au-Toe-Matic toe-touch height adjuster.

Model 6800 (1992-93)
Same nozzle casting and headlight a la models 602/604/881/883. 6 amp motor. Burgundy trim and AOR plate. Mauve bag.

Model 8000 (1988-91)
Mauve bag (Red/blue "Royal Five" logo), Burgundy trim. Deluxe wheels with hubcaps. Deluxe headlight. Rite-Hite screw-type height-adjustment system. Decal protrudes from headlight (reads: "ROYAL - COMMERCIAL QUALITY"). Models made after March 1, 1990 will have a 9-blade fan. Models made after January 1, 1991 will use same version of the front decal as model 9700 (after 3/1/91) and 6103/F.

Model 9000 (1988-91)
Same as models 992/993 but with mauve bag and burgundy trim/AOR plate. Off-white cord used on models produced in 1988.

Model Classic 9005 (1988-90) and 9089 (1989-90)
Burgundy bag (logo reads "Royal Classic 1989, Quality Since 1905") and trim. Deluxe wheels with hubcaps. Deluxe headlight. 6-amp motor. Front of nozzle has burgundy-colored decal protruding from the machined lines of the headlight (the decal reads "ROYAL - COMMERCIAL QUALITY") Au-Toe-Matic toe-touch height-adjustment system.

Model Classic 9100 (1990-95)
Same as model #8000 but with 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan. Mauve bag (1990-91) or burgundy (1991-95, same as model 6103/F). Front label is changed on 1/1/91.

Model Classic 9700 (1990-95)
Same as model 9005 but with 7-amp motor and 9-blade impeller fan. On March 1, 1991, the decal is changed so its border no longer protrudes from the headlight.

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STARK'S VACUUM (PORTLAND, OR) EXCLUSIVE SERIES

Model 901 (1990-91) - 6 amp motor, gray bag, black trim, black AOR plate (same as model 8000 from 3/1/90)

Model 5000NA (1987-90) - 6 amp motor, gray bag, black trim, black AOR plate (same as model 889 from 1987-88, 9000 from 1988-90)

Model 5700 (1990-95) - 7 amp motor, mauve (1990-91) or burgundy (1991-95) bag, burgundy trim, burgundy AOR plate (same as model 9700)

~Ben


Post# 264524 , Reply# 2   1/23/2014 at 04:53 (3,717 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Thanks Ben!

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I use your research in my quest for the perfect Royal Metal Upright. And, I'm sure I'm not the only one!

Post# 264542 , Reply# 3   1/23/2014 at 10:31 (3,716 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
Royal Anniversary Model

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Is this after 1995, or did i miss it in the list?

Post# 264543 , Reply# 4   1/23/2014 at 10:33 (3,716 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
Another view

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This motor looks much different than my recent 1030z commercial.

Post# 264568 , Reply# 5   1/23/2014 at 16:55 (3,716 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Robert,

This is a pre-1995 model. It is a model 8801AE from 1992-93, with a 6 amp non-drop-in motor. So this one is appropriate.

~Ben


Post# 265662 , Reply# 6   2/1/2014 at 08:22 (3,707 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Built Like A Tank, Light As A Feather, Works Like A Horse!

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I'm a form follows function kind of guy, but these Royals and 60's Kirby's vacuums have an iconic Americana look to them. Rugged, purpose built, machines, perfected over time. The polished aluminum housings are icing on the cake!

Post# 265663 , Reply# 7   2/1/2014 at 08:29 (3,707 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Newly Acquired Model 9700

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Thanks to Ben's detailed list, I knew what models to seek, and I was able to finally acquire a 1994 Model 9700. Unlike Kirby, Royal offered many configurations each year, ranging from basic household units, to beefy commercial or loaded with options machines. This 9700 was a "loaded with options" variety. Honestly, there's only about $25.00 worth of extra parts on these things, but that radically increased the price over the base units. Not much different than car models I guess.

Post# 265664 , Reply# 8   2/1/2014 at 08:33 (3,707 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Wheel Covers?

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Of course the thing that stands out on this model, is the chrome wheel covers. Yeah, wheel covers on a vacuum! Not exactly a form follows function kind of option, eh? In my opinion, it boarders on gaudy, and that's not the worst of it. The wheels themselves are made of a harder material, which has the advantage of not getting grit embedded as easily, but they are noisier. Honestly, I'd prefer the softer wheels without the covers.

Post# 265665 , Reply# 9   2/1/2014 at 08:41 (3,707 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Polished Aluminum!

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That arguably gaudy wheel issue is just one detail on an otherwise beautiful piece of equipment. And, it's the chrome trim and polished aluminum housings that really... shine!

Post# 265668 , Reply# 10   2/1/2014 at 08:50 (3,707 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Favorite Feature

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One option that would be worth paying a few bucks for, is the infinitely variable, foot adjuster. Not sure of the proper name for it, but I love it!

Post# 265671 , Reply# 11   2/1/2014 at 09:05 (3,707 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Last Model 9700 Picture

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Another feature that has nothing to do with function, is the color. I liked the deep red used on the Kirby's in the 60's. Probably why I prefer Burgundy on the full featured Royals. Otherwise, the powder blue is one of the prettiest colors, in my opinion. The royal blue is a good, crisp, no nonsense color that probably epitomizes the "Royal (All-Metal) Upright", but that burgundy is just so... regal!

Post# 265691 , Reply# 12   2/1/2014 at 12:24 (3,707 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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John,

I appreciate the efforts that you took to finish up your 9700.

~Ben


Post# 265758 , Reply# 13   2/2/2014 at 00:22 (3,707 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
7s!

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It's funny how I have the exact same rug, and the exact same vacuum in reply #6!


Post# 271242 , Reply# 14   3/11/2014 at 09:00 (3,669 days old) by lindley89 ()        
Hey Ornery!

Hey ornery; I just purchased your Royal 9700 off ebay. Funny thing that when I was looking for one before I bought the 2025 model I saw this one on this website and was like I want one like that and then you put this very same one for sale...it was like destiny or somthing lol. I'm going to keep my Royal 2025 and my royal prince 501 hand held at my vacation home. I'm going to keep the Royal 9700 and Electro Hygiene (royal) 501 hand held at my primary home. I will post pictures of my mini collection when the 9700 arrives. I told myself ok thats it no more vacuums. lol
For my curieosty it looks like from your post's you have only had this vacuum for a couple months..what made you decide to sell it?


Post# 271245 , Reply# 15   3/11/2014 at 09:30 (3,669 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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Justin,

John sold his 9700 because the wartime Royal he has, the model 131, seemed more appealing to him because of the time period it was made in (circa 1940).

~Ben


Post# 271250 , Reply# 16   3/11/2014 at 09:47 (3,669 days old) by lindley89 ()        

Oh ok..that makes sense; also ben I believe the 9700 and my Electo Hygiene hand held both have oil ports; how often and what type of oil should I use to oil them. I also can't seem to find out what year my Electro Hygiene 501 hand held was made..its in like new condition, it still had the orginal belt on it.

Post# 271264 , Reply# 17   3/11/2014 at 12:53 (3,669 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Almost On The Truck

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Hey Justin,

Your vacuum is in a pile of boxes, waiting for UPS.

You're a smart man. Had a couple people ask questions about the 9700, and I answered them thoroughly, but they screwed around too long and missed out. I'd be bummed for weeks if I lost "The Vacuum to Have" because of a few extra bucks.

I envy your location in North Carolina. My wife and I looked for a job and place to live down there about 30 years ago. No dice. Now, we're stuck in Ohio with this wonderful weather.

Anyway, enjoy your new vacuum. It kicks ass!


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Post# 271307 , Reply# 18   3/11/2014 at 16:22 (3,669 days old) by lindley89 ()        

John,

I figured there were some people looking at it and I knew if I waited a few days it would be gone considering the era the vacuum was made. I was looking for a Royal that was a 6 or 7 amp that was loaded with all the bells and whistles; cause like others have said the 9 to 10 amp are loud. My 2025 is a bare bone machine and is a little loud but it really dosent bother me. The 2025 will be perfect to keep at my vacation home at the coast and it does perform very well. I'm looking forward to getting the 9700 and I'm sure I'm going to enjoy it!! By the way has the 9700 been serviced/oiled recently; just want to make sure before I go to using it. I love it here in NC..born and raised here. I live about 40 minutes west of Raleigh out in the country. I'm only 3 hrs from the beach and 3 hrs from the mountains; best of both worlds.

Thanks again, I appreciate the detail of your listing and the video you put up explaining the vacuum and running it.


Post# 271329 , Reply# 19   3/11/2014 at 18:40 (3,669 days old) by ornery (Northeast Ohio)        
Servicing The 9700

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Only vacuum I've really "serviced" as far as the motor goes, is the 131. I've added drops of non-detergent, straight 30 weight oil to the rear oil port, but nothing in the front.

I've assumed these 7 amp motors have ball bearings in the front, and was actually looking forward to replacing one. Seems kind of silly having that highly accessible oil port on the rear, and none on the front. That's where all the stress is. Maybe it's a simple sleeve bearing in the back, and ball bearings in the front. I don't know, but if you're worried about it, you'll have to pull it apart to get at it.

Not as hard as it sounds. A phillips screwdriver, and small "crescent" wrench, and you can be looking at that bearing in 10 minutes. I bet it's sealed, too. The 131 had sleeve bearings front and back, and the front was worn oversize/ egg shaped about .010-.015". The rear was like new. The felt packing around the front bearing was cooked and dry. I go off track in a hurry, eh?

Anyway, I'm guessing there's not much you can do to the front bearing as far as preventive maintenance. I'm SURE somebody here will chime in with the correct info about it. I think I looked at the brushes when I got it, and there was plenty of meat left. Beyond that, there's nothing to do, but run it, and run it and run it...


Post# 271435 , Reply# 20   3/12/2014 at 02:20 (3,669 days old) by lindley89 ()        

Thanks for the info John; I will continue to do the same as what you were doing. I'm new to these vacuums so i'm still learning about them. My 2025 has the drop in motor so I can't add oil to it.

Post# 329175 , Reply# 21   7/12/2015 at 22:15 (3,181 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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John (ornery),

I now have a 1993 Stark 5700 which is a version of the Royal 9700 sold by the Portland, OR-based chain Stark's Vacuum. I will get pictures of it shortly.

~Ben


Post# 384064 , Reply# 22   1/11/2018 at 13:07 (2,267 days old) by Gj3476 (Prosper,TX)        

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I’m getting a royal model 606 for my birthday! I looked up the watts, it’s 350. So that makes it made around 1966 or to 1971. The serial number is 606-32083

Post# 384065 , Reply# 23   1/11/2018 at 13:28 (2,267 days old) by vacuumdevil (Vacuum Hell )        

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Good information! Makes me want to grab an oil Can I can hear the Royal wheels squeaking now.

Post# 391664 , Reply# 24   5/8/2018 at 03:19 (2,151 days old) by scoloheros (Texas)        
Gaudy Wheels?

I just found one of these and cleaned it up, it's awesome, I have two Royals now. It's the hotrod of the Royals. I think the big wheels is a performance design. I know this thread is kind of old but others will find it, like me. The wider the wheels on these Royals, the more surface area so the better they drift/slide while turning and maneuvering over carpet, they surely had that in mind in the design. It's perfect, I feel like I'm playing with a big Hot wheel. I like the Kirby's I have, they have more uses but the Royal beats my Kirbys when it comes floors. The Kirby's are great for cleaning out cars and other tasks but for floors, the Royal, ...IMO! I WISH it had hub caps, it would keep the dirt out that causes wear on the wheels against the axels.

Post# 391666 , Reply# 25   5/8/2018 at 06:18 (2,150 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Royal wheels-the wide wheels also make it easier to push-they don't sink down in deep carpets as narrow tread wheels do.The hubcaps should be on ALL of their models-commercial ones,too.Some of the wheels on my Royals have been suffering some sort of dry rot-will have to have them replaced.For me--my Kirbys are still better than my Royals-but very close.The Royal is a good "poor mans Kirby"GREAT for those folks who don't want to buy a Kirby.I do a test involving old maid popcorn kernals from the workplace popcorn machine.The Kirby gobbles them up QUYICKLY-the Royals beat them around underneath and pick them up more SLOWLY than the Kirbys-Avalirs and the Royal 10A Commercials.Use sunthetic bags in both.Tried a 7A Royal and it ate the popcorn faster and BETTER than the 10A ones.Quieter,too!The 10A Royals--NOISE-from two places the bigger motor and the faster turning nozzle brush.Vacuuming cars I WOULD NOT use a Kirby for this.Remember the fan is turning faster so that pebble or coin picked up from under the seat may BLOW your fan!

Post# 391709 , Reply# 26   5/8/2018 at 19:41 (2,150 days old) by scoloheros (Texas)        

To each their own no doubt. I have 5 Kirbys but find myself almost always going for a Royal, it maneuvers much better for me. If the back wheels of the Kirbys with the drive could also rotate independently, I might change my mind there but NOW I'm getting picky haha. I have a few new backup blades for the Kirbys, they aren't getting any cheaper. Breaking a blade on a nickel could happen but it's been working for 20 years using it for my truck with no problems. I just re-packed the front and back bearings on a 1976 Kirby I found at a thrift store, feels really good to keep these old things going.

Post# 391712 , Reply# 27   5/8/2018 at 21:47 (2,150 days old) by huskyvacs (Gnaw Bone, Indiana)        

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Maybe I'm just an outlaw here, but I would never use a household vacuum in that environment for cleaning out a car. Too much variables in debris and danger to the parts. Not to mention they are not rated for outdoor use, should the wheels happen to roll into a puddle or some wet grass when you are tugging it along outside the car.

I use a Shop Vac with no bag installed for cleaning out my '02 Durango. I can vacuum the rust flakes out of the holes in the rocker panels as a bonus! haha One time had a nasty coin tray I didn't want to touch, I just vacuumed the entire pile of coins up and collected them out of the vacuum afterwards and rinsed them down with the hose. The hose is so wide I just pass it over the carpet in a uniform motion and it gets it clean enough to go over safely with the shampooer.


Post# 391721 , Reply# 28   5/9/2018 at 01:35 (2,150 days old) by scoloheros (Texas)        

Well obviously "I'm" the outlaw. I live like a caveman, to me these things are made to suck it up and clean it up so, so what if a break a nail, there are always the fake "stick-ons" lol. My car Kirby handles the M&M that found purgatory for a while with ease, getting ejected into the yard like a BB, no issues.

Post# 391723 , Reply# 29   5/9/2018 at 02:06 (2,150 days old) by HonestJoe68 (Mansfield, Ohio)        

Hi everybody,

Beautiful Royal vacuums.. obviously these are machines of high quality to be 25 Plus years old and still look so great and still perform.

I’m new here but I thought threads on vacuums 20 years or older, Prior to 1998.. are to be posted in “Vintage”. 🤔

Just an observation as I saw dates all older than 20 years.

Awesome vacuums though.. I’m not a fan of old machines but yours look really nice.

Have a great day and No offense intended regarding this belongs in Vintage.

Patrick 🤗😁👍🏻


Post# 465703 , Reply# 30   8/31/2023 at 17:16 (209 days old) by StanL (Florida)        
Alva 895

I inherited an old 80's Royal Everlast(?) from my mother. It appears to be an Alva rebranded Royal that's had some parts replaced over the years (including the bag). I'm trying to buy a couple more pieces now and I think I've found what I need.

The official model says 895, but it looks like a RY8200, although I'm not sure.

Any ideas?

I'm looking to get some front wheels, a bulb and a nozzle guard. The wheels crumbled, the bulb is dead (and I can't read the voltage on the old one), and the guard is rusty.


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Post# 465708 , Reply# 31   8/31/2023 at 21:42 (209 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
The

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Bag is not the correct bag. The Everlast models were made in the 2000s.
Your 895 was made in March of 1967.
I believe the bag on it originally was dark blue with silver and red writing on it. I have a similar model. The vacuum is the quietest vacuum I own.
The bag you have is upgraded with the model b bag setup.
The vacuum looks correct except for the bag.


Post# 465746 , Reply# 32   9/1/2023 at 21:01 (208 days old) by StanL (Florida)        

Yeah, I realize now that this was the vacuum my mom used while I was growing up, but the bag has changed and there is a zip-tie holding some things together.

Any idea about parts for it? I'm pretty sure the wheels and nozzle guard of the RY8200 should work, but I have no idea about the bulb.

The one I'm looking at has a different shape so I'm concerned it's wrong.


Post# 465752 , Reply# 33   9/1/2023 at 21:48 (208 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Um

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The ry8200 or the screamers ry 8100 8200 8300 had drop in motors and a different housing all together. There are really no websites that sell parts. Tthe last 5 years Henry vacuums and stark vacuums were the main places to get parts don't sell them. I'd just keep the vacuum as is and use ut as is. Ypu could spray paint the trim ypu have now but other than that you'll be hard pressed for parts.

Post# 465761 , Reply# 34   9/2/2023 at 05:23 (208 days old) by StanL (Florida)        

I'm probably going to pick up the parts I found and let you all know how it works out.
Do you have any information on what the lightbulb is? The specs are burned off so I don't know what it was.


Post# 465762 , Reply# 35   9/2/2023 at 06:16 (208 days old) by vacuumman (California)        
Bulb

I was able to get these LED bulbs to work in a Royal.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacuumman's LINK


Post# 465772 , Reply# 36   9/2/2023 at 15:39 (207 days old) by StanL (Florida)        

Wow. 50-75W equivalent? I'm pretty sure the Royals use a 15 or 25 Watt bulb. I bet that makes night vaccing easier.

Post# 465819 , Reply# 37   9/4/2023 at 09:34 (205 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        
I’m still looking for a Royal

I’m not sure which model had the Adjust-o-Rite, toe adjustment on the rear wheel and also the lower amp motor. Every one that I’ve found has the bigger motor and I don’t want one of those screamers.

Post# 465824 , Reply# 38   9/4/2023 at 14:50 (205 days old) by vacuumman (California)        
Small Motor Royal

A 992-997 should have the non-drop in motor, the Adjust-o-Rite, and the toe adjustment.

Post# 465831 , Reply# 39   9/4/2023 at 18:49 (205 days old) by Lesinutah (Utah)        
Umm

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That vacuum will not work. The 880 5.4 amp and older oiler motors are what you need. There is no model with the toe touch that will fit your vacuum. The motor shafts in newer than 880 vacuums have different housings.
You can ask what works but go up to the models and 1985 and older models will work. This should anser your questions. Just look to see the model year and 1985 and older works and newer ones don't.


Post# 466304 , Reply# 40   9/18/2023 at 16:28 (191 days old) by StanL (Florida)        

An update. The wheels I got from ecovacuum seem to work fine.
The caps to the wheels don't lock, so they're trash. One side needed a single washer and the other one washer provided plus a thinner one I had. I don't know if that's my vac or their wheels being irregular.

The bulb provided is generic, too long on the bulb side and still too short on the base, just like the bulb I previous tried. Too lose to work.

So of the 5 things I bought only two are useful.

It's nice that the wheels are available, but as far as their customer service goes, they are crap. Almost 2 weeks for this to arrive and some nasty emails even though they shipped wrong orders to wrong addresses.

At least I can vacuum.


Post# 466515 , Reply# 41   9/30/2023 at 11:38 by StanL (Florida)        

Btw, got more nasty emails from ecovacuum because they weren't watching the USPS tracking and were convinced I was withholding the wrong product they needed me to return. They threatened to charge me for the item as well.
Don't do business with them unless you are absolutely desperate.

ANYWAY, I wanted to ask if anyone has tried using "Downy Unstopables Laundry Scent Booster Beads" in place of the scent crystals on these vacuums.

I don't see why it shouldn't be a good, modern, easy to find solution.


Post# 466534 , Reply# 42   10/1/2023 at 16:44 by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        
StanL

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Stan,

For your 1976 model 895, these were the exact motor upgrades you could use.

To 4.5 amp (1980-1989)
1-880001-000 armature
1-880002-000 field
1-608261-000 motor shaft
1-608004-000 impeller fan (1/4" O.D. shaft hole)

To 5.4 amp (old style, 1985-1990)
1-618001-000 armature
1-618002-000 field
1-618261-000 motor shaft
1-620004-000 impeller fan (5/16" O.D. shaft hole)

To 5.4 amp (new style, 1990-1995)
1-884001-000 armature
1-618002-000 field
1-380261-000 motor shaft
1-608005-000 impeller fan

To 6.0 amp (old style, 1987-1990)
1-620001-000 armature
1-618002-000 field
1-618261-000 motor shaft
1-620004-000 impeller fan (5/16" O.D. shaft hole)

To 6.0 amp (new style, 1990-1995)
1-680001-000 armature
1-618002-000 field
1-380261-000 motor shaft
1-608005-000 impeller fan

To 7.0 amp (1990-1995)
1-780001-000 armature
1-780002-000 field
1-380261-000 motor shaft
1-608005-000 impeller fan

~Ben



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