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Post# 118343   12/16/2010 at 00:58 (3,229 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        

here is my mint LUX AP 280.




Post# 118350 , Reply# 1   12/16/2010 at 03:47 (3,229 days old) by animebsd ()        
wow!

looks great!

Post# 118353 , Reply# 2   12/16/2010 at 04:00 (3,229 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Nice vacs. The only thing I don't like about mine is that the hose seems just a wee bit too short. Another foot would have made it all that much better.

Post# 118355 , Reply# 3   12/16/2010 at 07:09 (3,228 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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When I had my AP280 I found the hose too short also and a little too stiff.

Gary


Post# 118357 , Reply# 4   12/16/2010 at 07:43 (3,228 days old) by klectrolux ()        

Nice 280! Your PN looks way better than mine. I too find the hose on any Electrolux too short, hard to dust anything up high or deep. The 280 is a sweet machine.

Post# 118374 , Reply# 5   12/16/2010 at 09:35 (3,228 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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I love the AP models. Too bad in SC, we rarely, if ever, see any of those.

Post# 118375 , Reply# 6   12/16/2010 at 10:02 (3,228 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)        
I second that!!!

For North Carolina as well , I would love to find European or Canadian machines!

Post# 118379 , Reply# 7   12/16/2010 at 11:02 (3,228 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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Were Electrolux in Canada and Electrolux in the U. S. subsidiaries of the same corporation or were they completely separate companies?

Post# 118386 , Reply# 8   12/16/2010 at 13:44 (3,228 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
thanks

I am going to get a new replacement hose.

I really like these power nozzels.


Post# 118399 , Reply# 9   12/16/2010 at 15:53 (3,228 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

My model 2100 has a longer vinyl hose, not sure if it's original but I think it is.. and it makes a world of difference


Post# 118401 , Reply# 10   12/16/2010 at 16:03 (3,228 days old) by tom519 (Long Island, New York )        
Beerad

Nice machine !! I don't know much about Electrolux, only Kirbys, when was this vacuum produced? My guess is mid '70s.

Post# 118420 , Reply# 11   12/16/2010 at 17:17 (3,228 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I got a vinyl hose for my '89 and it made a world of difference...When using the regular carpet nozzle and with a new bag it can pick up the carpet.

Gary


Post# 118426 , Reply# 12   12/16/2010 at 17:47 (3,228 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hi there Bill.....

I don't know for certain who owned the Electrolux plant in Canada, but if I had to hazard a guess, I would say that the assembly plant in Montreal that I knew as a kid was a subsidiary of the American company. It is possible that the Canadian division did not open until Electrolux in the States was sold to Consolidated Foods in 1968. Consolidated Foods had a strong Canadian connection, and I think that may have been the exact time that the Montreal plant on the Trans-Canada Highway opened. It would be interesting to find out if there were any distinctively "Canadian" Electrolux canisters made before the sale to Consolidated Foods in 1968. Before that year, I would guess that all Electrolux canisters were imported into Canada from the American plant in Old Greenwich, Connecticut.

At some point in the 1960's (not sure which year), I think the Canadian government required American companies to set up subsidiaries in Canada in order to provide work for Canadians and in order to abide by our unions' demands for proper health benefits and retirement benefits. We also had regulations that required French instruction manuals and marketing materials to be made available. That is why every vac maker (Hoover, Eureka, etc.) had their own Canadian factories by the 1970's.

See Charlie Lester's site for a bit more background to Electrolux:


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Post# 118429 , Reply# 13   12/16/2010 at 18:33 (3,228 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

Actually, Electrolux Canada has existed since the early 30's, as a subsidiary of the Swedish company, the same as the U.S. company, and all the models produced since that time up to the middle of the 80's have been distinctively Canadian. Occasionally, models were imported from the States (such as the Super J), but Canada has always had its own, separate models from the American ones. Of course, both countries shared ideas in design, electronics, attachments, bags, etc.

Re: the Pointe Claire factory. Going by the notations on the machines, it seems to me this must have opened in 1964-5. Before that point, all the machines bore the notation "Made in Canada by Electrolux (Canada) Ltd, Montreal, Quebec". As an example, I have an 86 made in 1963 which was made in Montreal, and an 88 made in 1965 which was made in Pointe Claire. Of course, I know Pointe Claire is a suburban community of Montreal, so maybe they just called the entire area Montreal.*

* In some of the early manuals (for example, the 55 and 88), they showed indoor and outdoor pictures of the factory, and it certainly looks to be in "downtown" Montreal.

In the mid-late 70's, they must have opened a factory in Brockville, Ontario, as well, because the AP 200 manual (made between 1976-79) shows a picture of a plant in Brockville. I have a yellow Trivac electric broom (to match the AP 200) which was made in Brockville...not sure what else they made there.

The AP 280 was made between 1978-82, possibly my favorite of the AP series (although I like them all).




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Post# 118435 , Reply# 14   12/16/2010 at 19:19 (3,228 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Hey Bob! Thanks for that clarification!

Most of Montreal's suburbs are their own independent cities with their own mayors. My family lived in one suburb closer to the main city of Montreal (Cote St. Luc), and the Electrolux plant that I knew on the Trans Canada Highway in the 1960's was indeed in the City of Pointe Claire, near our big Fairview Shopping Centre (they used to call it Fairview Centre Pointe Claire). We had cousins who lived in the new suburb of Dollard-des-Ormeaux which you got to from the Sources Road exit just west of the Electrolux plant. Next door to Electrolux was the head office of the Boy Scouts of Canada!!!

If the vac documentation said Montreal, then it probably was in the City of Montreal itself, not Pointe Claire. So I think you probably have the correct date of the opening of the Pointe Claire plant - around 1964-65.

Did not know about the Brockville plant though. Must have been a result of the separatist PQ coming to power in the fall of 1976. Many companies in Quebec started moving over to Ontario after Rene Levesque came to power......

Here's a mapquest map of the intersection of Highway 40 (the Trans-Canada Autoroute) and Sources Boulevard on the West Island of Montreal. The Electrolux plant was just east of this intersection, on the north side of the highway.


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Post# 118438 , Reply# 15   12/16/2010 at 19:46 (3,228 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        
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Thanks for the information! I've always noted similarity of design. And of course, some of the components look identical. So I've always wondered about the relationship. Electrolux's corporate history is VERY confusing! LOL!

Post# 118439 , Reply# 16   12/16/2010 at 20:01 (3,228 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

Back on the AP 280 for a minute, so as not to stray too far away from the topic, the best (and most unique) element is the two-speed motor; a great feature which I constantly use. Wonder why it never appeared on any other North American Electrolux?

It's also a considerably nicer color than the pink/beige AP 100 and the yellow AP 200, although I do get more used to these as time goes on.

Re: Brockville plant. All of my AP machines, made in 1977, 1979, and 1982 respectively, were made in Pointe Claire, so I wonder if only certain products such as the Trivacs and possibly the shampooer/polishers were made in Brockville, with the canister production remaining in Quebec?

Yes indeed, the history of the company and the minutiae of the machines is confusing sometimes, but I sometimes feel its my daily bread :)

See the following picture from the 89 manual of the Pointe Claire factory.


Post# 118443 , Reply# 17   12/16/2010 at 20:36 (3,228 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
That's my childhood Electrolux plant!!!!!

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I remember patiently waiting as we drove westbound on the Trans-Canada to visit my cousins.....and then...boom! There was Electrolux! :-)

I was so deep in the "vac closet" in those days!

As Bob Hope used to sing: "Thanks for the memories..."


Post# 118489 , Reply# 18   12/17/2010 at 09:02 (3,227 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Hey Bob....question for you:

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If the Swedish parent company sold their final shares of Electrolux USA in 1968, when did they sell their control of the Canadian subsidiary (if they ever did)? Any idea?

Post# 118495 , Reply# 19   12/17/2010 at 09:56 (3,227 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

As far as I know, Brian, the Canadian subsidiary was sold off at the same time, but both countries continued with their own distinctive models until the 80's, and then things moved down south.

I just had a look at my AP 280, which is the latest machine I have before things moved to the States, and the notations are exactly the same as the earlier ones, i.e. "Made in Canada by Electrolux (Canada) Ltd, Pointe Claire, Que." The contemporaneous American models have the Consolidated Foods logo on them.

Others with more knowledge than myself will hopefully chime in.

BTW, Brad, the hose you have there looks in great shape; mine is unraveling like a sweater, but still has some suction.


Post# 118498 , Reply# 20   12/17/2010 at 10:14 (3,227 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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Thank you... :-)




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