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Post# 117349   12/6/2010 at 22:00 (4,882 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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I was wondering if anyone knows what and when the Sentria will be replaced with ? I am an avid Kirby collector and want a new Kirby really bad lol.The sentria has been out longer than most Kirby`s have been in the past. They are way overdue for a replacement. I did see online the US patent office had a Kirby Avalir but the patent has been around for years . Thanks Danny
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Post# 117390 , Reply# 1   12/7/2010 at 08:02 (4,881 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 117395 , Reply# 2   12/7/2010 at 08:44 (4,881 days old) by sanimatic ()   |   | |
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LOL. I heard that WikiLeaks was going to release the nuclear launch code. But even they couldn't get any scoop on the new Kirby. |
Post# 117454 , Reply# 4   12/7/2010 at 17:44 (4,881 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 117472 , Reply# 5   12/7/2010 at 18:41 (4,881 days old) by kirbyeureka95 ()   |   | |
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Go buy one so the new one can come out already! :P |
Post# 117494 , Reply# 6   12/8/2010 at 02:13 (4,880 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I bought one when they first came out. Do not like it near as well as the models before it. I am also sick of gray all the time when they do a model change. Surely there are other colors out there besides gray all the time..............
PS I bought a Gsix handle, G4 Cord and G4 bumper to change it to look more like the other models. I finally gave it to my brother and his wife. I understand now that they are going back to the original style headlight.... You can pick them up on Ebay much cheaper than going through a Kirby dealer. NIB I have the G5 and GSix models for my collection. They are my favorites out of the series. |
Post# 117512 , Reply# 7   12/8/2010 at 10:39 (4,880 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin))   |   | |
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Post# 117513 , Reply# 8   12/8/2010 at 11:05 (4,880 days old) by frosty29 ()   |   | |
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Dont they have much more plastic? |
Post# 117532 , Reply# 9   12/8/2010 at 15:17 (4,880 days old) by djkain2007 ()   |   | |
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I hear that its going to be similar to the sentria but different. Still plastic. Bagged. Yellow and blue. |
Post# 117554 , Reply# 10   12/8/2010 at 17:49 (4,880 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Bill here is the thread.
Post# 114197 on 2010-11-09 21:06:15 by thermokid (Thermopolis, WY) New Kirby ? A friend of mine in Indiana said his Kirby Dealer that he goes to showed him the new Kirby that just came out.Guess what? It is still a sentria the only difference he said is they went back to the old style headlight like on the Diamond Edition, his dealer said people didn't like the new Led headlight so they went back to the old one. I said good because I don't like the new Led headlight either... So I wonder is this new sentria just around for about a year till the new redesigned Kirby comes out? Kind of like The Legend II was before the G3..... |
Post# 117585 , Reply# 11   12/9/2010 at 01:34 (4,879 days old) by thevacuumlover1 ()   |   | |
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They Are postponing it. The next kirby will not have the L-E-D Lights. Thats all i know. It will have the Ult G head light. |
Post# 117610 , Reply# 12   12/9/2010 at 11:07 (4,879 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)   |   | |
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Post# 117640 , Reply# 13   12/9/2010 at 15:34 (4,879 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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That would be an absolute joke going back to the old style head light . Meanwhile most every vacuum manufacturer are using LED`s and it is the wave of the future as even Automobile`s are using LED`s . Incadescents light`s are about to be phased out forever . I think the LED`s are very bright and show up better even with the lights on. I have white carpet`s and navy blue and it shows up perfectly .My local Kirby store said the emptor has been changed on the Sentria to a smaller one . That is usually a sign of a new model being released soon. Let`s hope it is a change for the best and a departure from the Generation series that have been around for ever.Thanks again Danny
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Post# 117642 , Reply# 14   12/9/2010 at 15:43 (4,879 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Post# 117671 , Reply# 15   12/9/2010 at 20:40 (4,879 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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It would be an absolute shame to see such a great American brand be brought to its knees by being made in China & having its quality DRASTICALLY reduced.
@Kirbysthebest: How could you even joke about such a scenario?! That would be my worst nightmare come true! And if it's any company that would ruin Kirby, TTI would be the one to do it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed your joke doesn't become reality one day.... Rob |
Post# 117727 , Reply# 16   12/10/2010 at 11:16 (4,878 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin))   |   | |
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Hello Bud.
Thanks for the quick reply. I didn't know if you had some 'other source' besides that thread, Bud. Guys & gals, let me clarify based on facts I know, vs. "s/he said, s/he said" information... ...from people we know, who know other people, who know other people, who know what they think they know based on speculation of hunches. ---->>>> (Whew, don't want to have to say that 3 times fast. ~~lol~~ ) If the Kirby has changed, (at present), don't you think they would make available to us, (their Factory Authorized locations), the parts change information & the parts themselves? Seriously??? Ocassionally there may be a little 'lag time' on receiving updates of changes vs. production; however, we do receive any notices of changes. When that last thread was posted I was aware of no changes & could not, nor would not comment on it. Frankly, I forget to post on the thread when I since received 'correct' information. (End of Nov.) Kirby has NOT "gone back" to the old style headlight. They have rather simplified the LED to be an "assembly" vs. seperate components. Much easier, & less prone to install issues. I sometimes have to just chuckle (& NOT comment) when I see some posts in general, here & elsewhere (on any subject or website). No disrespect to anyone; however, I was told (& heard) many years ago, when it comes to facts or information in general... "Trust, but verify." Remember the game as children, "Telephone?" If you do not remember (or those not old enough), [I don't know if it is still played by children today. It certainly is by 'adults.' ~~lol~~], here is a link to Wiki that will clarify it. Cheers & everyone enjoy their day, Bill CLICK HERE TO GO TO a007kirbyman's LINK |
Post# 117743 , Reply# 19   12/10/2010 at 15:21 (4,878 days old) by joe22 ()   |   | |
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we can speculate all day BUT, until someone has one in their hands we will not know anything about the new kirby. . . except for the given fact, that it will be better than a dyson |
Post# 117744 , Reply# 20   12/10/2010 at 15:34 (4,878 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin))   |   | |
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Thank you for your comments, Harley.
The post above was not directed at any individual. ~~lol~~ Your post was not even remotely considered, when I made the generalizations above; however, thank you again for your thoughts. There is absolutely nothing wrong with speculating, that is what makes this forum useful. I sometimes speculate myself as to what Kirby will come out with next. It never ceases to amaze me, when (we) think, "How can they makes this any better?" & then they do go & make it better. Speculation is one thing; saying "...it's on the market..." or "...so & so saw it..." is entirely different; especially when such is not the case. Cheers & hagd all, Bill |
Post# 117764 , Reply# 21   12/10/2010 at 19:28 (4,878 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Hi Bill,
I appreciate the point you made. I am a big Kirby fan and am as anxious as everyone else to see a new kirby come down the pike....Any information that you are able to share with us would be greatly appreciated, when you have it. I went on some demo's with a Kirby distributor when the G4 was the newest model out. He actually got his Kirby's from the Factory Distributor in Dayton Ohio. I always thought I could sell Kirby Vacuums if someone could get me the appointments...Knocking on doors is not my thing....Anyway, he lost his distributorship when he sold one over the phone to someone in Pennsylvania. It was a set up and Kirby does not tolerate going into someone else's territory. I felt bad for him, even though it was a small store, with only him, his mother, and his brother-inlaw working for him.(It was actually his mother that sold the one over the phone.) Didn't mean to go on like this. Sorry for the long post. Bud |
Post# 117862 , Reply# 25   12/12/2010 at 05:12 (4,876 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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For the NEXT Kirby-guess we all are going to have to sit it out and WAIT-probably next spring. |
Post# 117886 , Reply# 26   12/12/2010 at 13:06 (4,876 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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I'm not surprised that Kirby is in ligitation (again), as some of their sales reps are not exactly the most upstanding or honest people, but not all of them are like that. For examaple our own club member Bill (a007kirbyman) couldnt possibly be a nicer guy, he is a true professional and extremely knowedgable. Its a shame there are some terrible Kirby sales reps as they are the only ones who you ever see in the headlines. I can only speculate, but I doubt that Kirby/Scott Fetzer is lacking any money. They are a part of Warren Buffet's own Berkshire Hathaway conglomerate, whose stock price at closing on the NYSE yesterday was 120,800 per share.
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Post# 117953 , Reply# 27   12/13/2010 at 00:15 (4,875 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)   |   | |
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I hope Kirby continues to operate, maybe with a better class of salespersons. But, it is time for a total redesign. The G-Type have been in production for 20 years. There were rumors about a digital Kirby back when I started working as a Store Manager/Repairman back in 1996. The G5, if I remember correctly, came out in early 1997 only to be replaced in the summer of 1999 with the G6. When I went work for 'the other guy' in 2006 I was really surprised to see they were still selling a G-Type. The Sentria is nice, but it's been out since the summer of 2006. It is time for something NEW. I hope the next model is not just another color change. How many shades DOES grey come in? I'd like to see Forest Green or Medium Blue. Oh, yes. I would also like to see more curves, less sharp edges.
Just my 'two sents' Justin |
Post# 117973 , Reply# 28   12/13/2010 at 07:39 (4,875 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 117978 , Reply# 29   12/13/2010 at 10:18 (4,875 days old) by isufan11 (Minneapolis )   |   | |
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I'm sorry I did not mean to imply anything by my comment about litigation. I know that most of the people on this website are outstanding people, and did not mean to offend or even suggest anything. I twas more of a discussion point. |
Post# 117987 , Reply# 30   12/13/2010 at 12:41 (4,875 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 118847 , Reply# 31   12/20/2010 at 20:04 (4,868 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 118851 , Reply# 32   12/20/2010 at 20:23 (4,868 days old) by electroluxkirby ()   |   | |
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2014 is Kirby's 100th anniversary, I wonder if they will have a special anniversary model..... |
Post# 119585 , Reply# 33   12/29/2010 at 16:34 (4,859 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 119588 , Reply# 34   12/29/2010 at 16:51 (4,859 days old) by twocvbloke ()   |   | |
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It'll be like "Duke Nukem: Forever", it'll never ever be released.... :P |
Post# 120401 , Reply# 35   1/6/2011 at 15:05 (4,851 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 120403 , Reply# 36   1/6/2011 at 15:28 (4,851 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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Dan, We are not allowed to speak of this--It is forbidden. |
Post# 120425 , Reply# 37   1/6/2011 at 19:03 (4,851 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 120450 , Reply# 38   1/7/2011 at 03:43 (4,850 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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wait until spring. |
Post# 120532 , Reply# 40   1/7/2011 at 21:20 (4,850 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 120553 , Reply# 41   1/7/2011 at 22:41 (4,850 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 120618 , Reply# 42   1/8/2011 at 13:28 (4,849 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 120660 , Reply# 43   1/8/2011 at 20:40 (4,849 days old) by kirbyduh (Kentucky )   |   | |
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I was hoping for a smaller emtor on the new kirby. |
Post# 120728 , Reply# 45   1/9/2011 at 14:06 (4,848 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Post# 120766 , Reply# 46   1/9/2011 at 19:23 (4,848 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 120771 , Reply# 47   1/9/2011 at 19:51 (4,848 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 120777 , Reply# 48   1/9/2011 at 21:08 (4,848 days old) by gusherb (Chicagoland)   |   | |
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I think the orange Heritage was quite nice, and would make a nice departure from the dull color's they've been using since the beginning of the G series. |
Post# 120778 , Reply# 49   1/9/2011 at 21:09 (4,848 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Bill - this is a very contemporary colour these days. Take a look at the new Electroluxes, especially the burnt orange on the new UltraOne. It's really cool. You can even see new cars on the road in that colour.
The Kirby may end up being very cool and contemporary - with the proper colour accents. You may end up liking it too!!! :-) Here's the UltraOne: CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 120779 , Reply# 50   1/9/2011 at 21:16 (4,848 days old) by gusherb (Chicagoland)   |   | |
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That burnt orange is "in" right now. We have a couple Ikea lamps in our family room with shades that color, they look very nice with the light gold walls. |
Post# 120802 , Reply# 52   1/10/2011 at 04:13 (4,847 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 120823 , Reply# 53   1/10/2011 at 10:29 (4,847 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Hi Dan, When I said "I wonder if the new kirby this year will be a updated version of the Sentria and a new re-worked version of the kirby in 3 years,2014??"
Why did you just repeat what you said in your post above?? "The new Kirby will be out this February . Burnt Orange color , 8 lbs lighter = more plastic maybe ? Art deco in style , more rounder than Sentria ." Because from what you have described it just sounds like the New Kirby comming out this spring is a Updated G series machine and not the possible "New" shape we have seen in those patent diagrams that have been floating around for some time now. Thanks James:o) |
Post# 120825 , Reply# 54   1/10/2011 at 11:01 (4,847 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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I don`t think it will be the new redesigned "Avalir" or what ever as shows up on the US patent website . It is how ever going to be a different shape but probably the reworked version of the Current "G" series. I also made a mistake as it will be introduced in March at the Kirby convention . So it will depend on how soon the dealers can sell all of their Sentria stock .I can`t wait to see it and buy it .
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Post# 120856 , Reply# 55   1/10/2011 at 16:04 (4,847 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 120859 , Reply# 56   1/10/2011 at 16:24 (4,847 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 122687 , Reply# 57   1/22/2011 at 21:11 (4,835 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 124391 , Reply# 58   2/8/2011 at 21:22 (4,818 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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OH I cant wait for the new Kirby to be released.
I have a Sentria at the moment and I prefer the G5 over my Sentria. I think the bag design etc of the G5 is much nicer than the thin bag of the Sentria. If I trade in my Sentria to the dealer how much can I expect to pay for the new Kirby when it is released? |
Post# 124475 , Reply# 59   2/9/2011 at 20:46 (4,817 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)   |   | |
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I don't think any new model is coming out this year. I have been told that Kirby is not having a World Convention this year and they DO NOT launch a new model until AFTER a World Convention where they show it to their sales force first.
As for the idea that the next model is going to be several pounds less does not seem very likely. That would require dropping the Tech Drive, the Handle Pivot and Slide Block along with the structural supports. I can't see Kirby giving up the Tech Drive. I'd like to know where the rumor about the 'lighter weight and Burnt Orange color' came from. Kirby is pretty good at keeping secrets, I'd bet someone was given bad information. |
Post# 124480 , Reply# 60   2/9/2011 at 21:31 (4,817 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Yes the color may be wrong but kirby`s biggest complaint is weight , is it not ? Why do you think they have been using plastic on the shampooer and now the base of the machine and a new lighter less palstic emptor? They will not get rid of techdrive . Every single time they start to make changes on the model out currently ALWAYS singnal`s a new model change . I know my Kirby brand and have been buying every new model that comes out since 1970 . Yes Kirby does TRY to keep secrets but secrets are always reveled some how some way . Watch and see ; )
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Post# 124491 , Reply# 61   2/9/2011 at 22:42 (4,817 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Something must be right about the name Avalir. Here is a link to the trademark registration.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO compactelectra's LINK |
Post# 124495 , Reply# 62   2/9/2011 at 23:02 (4,817 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 124496 , Reply# 63   2/9/2011 at 23:07 (4,817 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 124551 , Reply# 64   2/10/2011 at 19:59 (4,816 days old) by vacman33 ()   |   | |
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Was wondering where everyone is getting their info. I was told by a Divisional Supervisor they are not getting a new kirby this year. But they are having a world conference this March in Orlando. |
Post# 124555 , Reply# 65   2/10/2011 at 21:43 (4,816 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 125377 , Reply# 66   2/18/2011 at 21:56 (4,808 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 125385 , Reply# 67   2/18/2011 at 22:21 (4,808 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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Yee-Haw! I wont be able to buy one, but sentrias wil start showing up at the salvation army.;) VW |
Post# 125428 , Reply# 68   2/19/2011 at 12:45 (4,807 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)   |   | |
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Kirbyloverdan, where are you getting your information from. Kirby does not launch a new modle before it's had a World Convension, and from what I have been told they are not having one this year. Also, a friend with connections at the factory says that they ARE NOT building a new model yet and that there are no plans as far as 'source' knows. Who are you getting your information from? You might want to tell your source to check his facts.
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Post# 125456 , Reply# 69   2/19/2011 at 19:06 (4,807 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Maybe your "source" doesn`t have the info I have . Warren Buffet just approved the outlay of money now that the electrical ratings are in place.The world conference was last weekend and it was spoken about. The new emptor that nobody beleive`s is real will be on the new Kirby behind the handle instead of off to the side . All Sentria`s that are in the warehouses must be sold first . Then the new model will be introduced in phases. It will be here this year ! When you love a product as much as I do , I always find out about every new Kirby that has ever been released even before many people who work at kirby even know .Hmmmm maybe I know Warren Buffet personally ????
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Post# 125503 , Reply# 72   2/20/2011 at 10:27 (4,806 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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Thats what the new kirby will look like?!?!?! I would much rather see kirby DIE than go to that design! VW |
Post# 125510 , Reply# 73   2/20/2011 at 11:18 (4,806 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Jon , Thanks for the great info . This Kirby has been in the works for years . They didn`t want to release it until all the bugs were worked out . They have several machines out being used and debugged so that when this is released there will be no problems as were in the Generation series in the begining. Kirby has a reputation for building a reliable machine and WILL NOT compromise that reputation. I will be buying two one to keep in the box and one to use .
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Post# 125542 , Reply# 75   2/20/2011 at 19:00 (4,806 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Kirby Vacuums have always been energy saving when compared to say a Dyson or any other clean air design that run at say 1800watts!
I cant wait till it is released I just hope they havent put too much plastic on. Dont see why there is a need for all these sensors though, my kirby has never overheated before they are very resilient. If it hasnt been a problem before why change it now? I do think a design change is needed though, as long as they keep it dirty fan suction though. |
Post# 125646 , Reply# 77   2/21/2011 at 16:49 (4,805 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)   |   | |
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My view is that we should welcome the changes whatever they may be. I personally think that the plastic they use on the newer shampoo / floor care nozzle as well as the plastic base pan are not "cheap" plastics. As long as they are durable, who would not welcome the weight savings? My Sentria as it is now is kind of a beast to lug around, but I do like it.
Also, the G series have had plastic handles and attachments for years, all which rarely break. I don't think going plastic is all that bad really. Andrew |
Post# 125902 , Reply# 79   2/25/2011 at 06:23 (4,801 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 125906 , Reply# 80   2/25/2011 at 06:46 (4,801 days old) by 2011hoover700 (owosso michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 126387 , Reply# 81   3/1/2011 at 21:52 (4,797 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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OK, guys- my local kirby dealership always has a stand at the annual home improvement show. Its in about a week; well see if they have a new "avalir" VW |
Post# 126391 , Reply# 82   3/1/2011 at 22:23 (4,797 days old) by bisonian (Where the buffalo roamed! (Ocala, FL))   |   | |
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Has anyone considered the possibility that the Avalir might not actually BE a Kirby? Remember, Scott Fetzer also sells vacs under the Douglas and ReadiVac names -- which are considerably lighter and less expensive than a Kirby. Just wondering ..... |
Post# 126583 , Reply# 83   3/3/2011 at 18:50 (4,795 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 126693 , Reply# 85   3/5/2011 at 14:15 (4,793 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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Same old sentria... But they had a new emptor, and it just looks... wrong VW |
Post# 126727 , Reply# 86   3/5/2011 at 22:19 (4,793 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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It will be here this year . The emptor thats on the newest Sentria is a part that will be on the Kirby Avalir . The Sentria will not be here for much longer . Perfection has taken much longer than thought especially during these economic times which have not helped to sell the rest of the Sentrias that are left in the warehouses.
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Post# 126813 , Reply# 87   3/6/2011 at 19:09 (4,792 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)   |   | |
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Hi All i would love Kirby to cut their prices so many more people could afford then.ILOVE Kirbys always have but they are priced WAY OUT OF LINE Doug |
Post# 126827 , Reply# 88   3/6/2011 at 20:52 (4,792 days old) by vacman33 ()   |   | |
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Just offer the kirby guys $500 bucks for a new one, they will sell it to you. If not wait 30 days after the new model comes out you can get one on ebay for that price. |
Post# 128184 , Reply# 89   3/22/2011 at 17:01 (4,776 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 128186 , Reply# 90   3/22/2011 at 17:17 (4,776 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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I did see the new emptor, and it looks UNGODLY ugly! Just sayin'. :P VW |
Post# 128216 , Reply# 91   3/22/2011 at 19:58 (4,776 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 129716 , Reply# 92   3/29/2011 at 14:48 (4,769 days old) by wisconsinguy ()   |   | |
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Ive email them and they ignore me. Time to hire a spy. haha there web page has a bunch of kids on it,do they come with it to? Id rather have a free turbo brush |
Post# 129859 , Reply# 94   3/30/2011 at 08:30 (4,768 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 130054 , Reply# 95   3/31/2011 at 16:41 (4,767 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 130609 , Reply# 97   4/4/2011 at 00:45 (4,764 days old) by Jeanette ()   |   | |
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but most women are 1) lazy Thats not fair I own a Kirby but it is difficult to change. |
Post# 130629 , Reply# 100   4/4/2011 at 07:30 (4,763 days old) by kirbysthebest (Midwest)   |   | |
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That one is ugly, and I wouldn't considere it an Emp-tor. It is more like a bag couppler. Through this limited view, there doesn't appear to be any place to catch heavy object, or empty them. I no likey. |
Post# 130633 , Reply# 101   4/4/2011 at 08:10 (4,763 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Out of curiosity I took apart the emptor on an Ultimate G. It surprised me. I thought the bottom cavity was for collection, instead what I found was an upward slanting tube with a ridge to hold back the larger debris. By the way I only took this apart because it had been broken.
Very interesting looking new emptor. Looks beefier, larger strap holding it on. Still like the looks of the other one better. Wonder if they will offer this for the older G Series? or just continue on....
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Post# 130634 , Reply# 102   4/4/2011 at 08:23 (4,763 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Don't get me wrong, I have always thought the emptor on the Kirby was a brilliant design, even more so with with the G Series. I am wondering if the emptor is even necessary since it isn't showing in the drawing? Kirby could still have a top fill bag using a coupling similar to what is on a Royal All Metal. With the size of their fill tube they could just instruct everyone to twist the coupling off and shake out any large debris and snap it back on from time to time.
What are your thoughts on this? This is also assuming the new Kirby will look similar to the picture at the patent office........
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Post# 130689 , Reply# 105   4/4/2011 at 19:15 (4,763 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)   |   | |
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Post# 130760 , Reply# 110   4/5/2011 at 11:43 (4,762 days old) by henry200 (Saint Paul MN)   |   | |
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Those are good points, Trebor. Having a hose that doesn't fight you, and well-designed, light weight tools are something even a person without any physical limitations can appreciate. |
Post# 130767 , Reply# 112   4/5/2011 at 12:01 (4,762 days old) by frkirby560 (Memphis, TN)   |   | |
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Here is the set; I usually use the two Kirbys together when I clean the whole house. |
Post# 130768 , Reply# 113   4/5/2011 at 12:02 (4,762 days old) by frkirby560 (Memphis, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 130772 , Reply# 115   4/5/2011 at 12:16 (4,762 days old) by henry200 (Saint Paul MN)   |   | |
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I'm not sure why but I don't use the felt floor pad on my Kirby very much, and didn't use the one on my Filter Queen either. Seconds on the Miele for bare floors! |
Post# 130782 , Reply# 116   4/5/2011 at 14:35 (4,762 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 131198 , Reply# 125   4/7/2011 at 15:56 (4,760 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)   |   | |
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I wish they would introduce a smaller main cleaning head for carpets as I have gone back to my Sanitaire for a bit simply because the size of the Sentria head does not allow me to get into some areas because of the width of it.
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Post# 131220 , Reply# 127   4/7/2011 at 20:49 (4,760 days old) by Air-WayCharlie (USA)   |   | |
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I think you have a point there. The best Kirby could do is make a smaller, lighter vacuum like the earlier ones but with upgraded motors, with BETTER attachments, (those plastic things...........I mean, come on, this is a vacuum that typically sells for over $1000.00!), and a longer hose. Isn't it about time Kirby had a direct connect hose to the front of the machine, (after you remove the rug nozzle), that has an integral power souce so you could put on a Sidekick type attachment or even a power nozzle? I think I could design it if they could built it. The concept is easy. If you remove the weight of the transmission and bulk, you have room for having a an integral direct connect type hose to the front of the vacuum. Air-Way could have done the same thing and still have been a leader in the industry today. I hope Kirby makes the changes that are needed to stay alive and does not go down the road of Air-Way. However, that would be a long way off. Charlie |
Post# 131301 , Reply# 128   4/8/2011 at 13:46 (4,759 days old) by kenkart ()   |   | |
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Charlie, you have some great Ideas I hadnt thought of! |
Post# 131518 , Reply# 134   4/9/2011 at 13:23 (4,758 days old) by troopersam (Perris)   |   | |
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It's important to remember, the Generation series DOES have two speeds available when using the hose: CLICK HERE TO GO TO troopersam's LINK |
Post# 132421 , Reply# 136   4/14/2011 at 21:07 (4,753 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Kirby`s newest total redesign is delayed yet again . According to my local Kirby store where I`ve purchased every new Kirby that has ever come out since the Tradition Kirby will be releasing an "improved" Sentria just like they did with the Heritage to the Legand ll . It will have some new improvements and a different color. The new total redesign Avalir or what ever it will be called will now arrive for Kirby`s 100th Anniversary late 2013 as a 2014 . So one more time with the generation series hopefully this will be the last of that series although I love every one and own every one new in the box plus a double of each to use for my every day cleaning.
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Post# 132432 , Reply# 138   4/14/2011 at 22:08 (4,753 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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I have both of the heritages with both Nozzles plus the small head as on the older Kirby`s . I do own many older Kirbys form the 500 series through to the Santronics , Classics , Omega`s ect. My brand new Kirbys started with the Tradition because thats was when I was old enough and had the money to start buying Kirby vacuums plus all the other brands (200+) I have purchased through out the years .
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Post# 132440 , Reply# 139   4/15/2011 at 00:48 (4,753 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I am ok with a few improvements and a color change for now. I have two brothers and when I get a new Kirby they usually get my "old" one. I actually really like the G Series. I bought a used G5 and had Kirby do a rebuild on it (never had that model which ended up being my favorite), I also asked Kent Oyler to rebuild me a Kirby Gsix, and recently bought a NIB Ultimate G off of Ebay. My first was a G4 and am thinking of adding that back to my collection as well.
My point to all of this was, I got a little afraid when I heard about the complete model change. What if I didn't like it as well...the G Series are such good cleaners...So I watch for NIB NOS, but I will say "buyer beware" on that score....I just had to take my NIB that I bought from Ebay and have a new fan case put on, the nozzle lock would not lock down tight enough. Other than that, it did look brand new....we all know how to look for dirt in a vacuum cleaner....this had none.
Million dollar question, does anyone know what the color of the new Sentria will be?
PS When I was at the Kirby dealer, authorized warranty repair service, and this was just yesterday to pick it up, I asked him if a new Kirby was coming down the pike. His reply was maybe in a year of so.....I told him when it came out I would come and see him.
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Post# 132459 , Reply# 140   4/15/2011 at 08:19 (4,752 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 132504 , Reply# 142   4/15/2011 at 19:52 (4,752 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 134382 , Reply# 143   4/27/2011 at 19:06 (4,740 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 134384 , Reply# 144   4/27/2011 at 19:12 (4,740 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 134386 , Reply# 145   4/27/2011 at 19:15 (4,740 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 134493 , Reply# 147   4/28/2011 at 12:28 (4,739 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 134506 , Reply# 148   4/28/2011 at 15:16 (4,739 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Post# 137846 , Reply# 150   5/28/2011 at 14:32 (4,709 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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I hear ya , I am planning on a trip next week to my local Kirby friend to see if he has any updates. The last time I spoke to him a few months ago he said another version of Generation Series , "Sentria II" is on it`s way this summer June maybe and the total redesign wont be released until Kirbys Anniversary.
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Post# 137897 , Reply# 151   5/29/2011 at 07:39 (4,708 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)   |   | |
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from a kirby dealer in Indiana that the new improved designed Kirby won't be out until Kirby's 100th anniversary in 2014? |
Post# 140151 , Reply# 152   6/18/2011 at 20:25 (4,688 days old) by Trebor ()   |   | |
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Verily, the summer passeth quickly. Any news, Dan? |
Post# 140167 , Reply# 154   6/18/2011 at 21:17 (4,688 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)   |   | |
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Post# 140170 , Reply# 155   6/18/2011 at 21:46 (4,688 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)   |   | |
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I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I searched on Google Patents for the most recent patent for the Scott Fetzer Company and found this. It looks like this new vacuum will have some electronic controls on the handle and the em-tor will be replaced by the air-flow going through the vacuum base itself, with two intake ports.
Even weirder is that there looks to be a separate power-nozzle. What could this new Scott Fetzer vacuum be? Take a look for yourself. Filing date: Jul 22, 2009 Issue date: Dec 21, 2010 CLICK HERE TO GO TO bagintheback's LINK |
Post# 140173 , Reply# 156   6/18/2011 at 21:54 (4,688 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Kirby Dealer (One of the best on the East coast), said they are selling off the Sentria`s that are left in the warehouses. This economy is the reason for the delay. It is going to be one more of the Generation series just a different color Sentria.It might be called Sentria II or something else but again with improvements . Kirby is very good a keeping secrets. By the time the newest total redesign is released 2013-14 all of the bugs will be worked out unlike the generation series where they improved over the years. This machine has been out in prototypes for many years and is being thouroughly tested to ensure perfection. Kirby only moves foward they don`t go backwards . They only look at the past to make sure they are not making any mistakes in the present and the future.
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Post# 140220 , Reply# 158   6/19/2011 at 10:37 (4,687 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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we would still be driving Edsels and Packards. This is how America works constantly improving products to be the best they can be. That is also why in America you have choices to chose to purchase a new improved product or continue to use what you feel is best suited for your situation. I personally can not wait until the total redesign kirby finally comes to fruition .
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Post# 140382 , Reply# 163   6/20/2011 at 20:50 (4,686 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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suggest they do with the Millions of dollars and years invested redesigning the new Kirby ? I guess if they listened to everyone who wants them to go back in time they would have never brought out the Generation series.I guess most of you would just bring back the old fashioned Kirbys which I love too and forget about anything improved.Before the Generation series Kirby was just about to go out of business because customers couldn`t push the non self propelled Kirby`s. Everyone I ever knew who had a Kirby purchased one because of the amazing cleaning they do . After a while of use and struggling to use and carry a Kirby most went into the attic, basement or garage to sit for eternity. Then years later they wind up in yard sales, flea markets and auctions ect.Kirby has had much sucess since the introduction of the G series. This new redesign which WILL be released for Kirby`s 100th anniversary will address all of customers complaints. Life time belt, easy to use attachments, cord winder and a powernozzle to get under beds and low furniture ect.Finger tip switch and speed control.The new Kirby will be bagged and they will never go bagless.It will be lighter made from plastic that will be indestructible as they are using it now on the newest Sentria`s base and shampooer.It will look more modern since most customers think a kirby looks old fashioned,Kirby does tons of customer research and if they want to stay in business for another 100 years it comes down to relentlessly improving on perfection and never resting.I can`t wait until the redesign because I know Kirby will introduce an as close to perfect vacuum that customers will love for years.I love to look at the past but enjoy the present and the future since it`s impossible to go back in time.Too bad the handful of us who love the older Kirby`s could get them to bring back the old one`s . I don`t think we could keep the company in business although I have purchased two of every new model Kirby made since the 70`s when I first started collecting Kirby`s would be enough for their survival.
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Post# 140397 , Reply# 166   6/20/2011 at 21:49 (4,686 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 140399 , Reply# 167   6/20/2011 at 21:56 (4,686 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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I personally like the G Series very much, not the Sentria however. Afraid of the dramatic change I have 3 rebuilt G Series vacuums. G-5, Gsix, and an Ultimate G. I plan on hanging on to these vacuums and if I don't like the anniversary model, I will still have 3 of my favorite cleaners in the G series line. Even though I bought them used, they were rebuilt by Kirby or someone who worked for Kirby. Any Kirby you would like to own can be sent to the factory for a rebuild for $350.00 plus shipping to and from. With that said, we will always be able to have a Kirby model we like, if we are willing to pay for the rebuilding. It may come back in a different color, but it will clean the same. With the latest brush roll in a G Series it will groom and clean extremely well. I am glad they are doing one more G Series before the big change. Hopefully I will like it enough to buy one brand new from a Kirby Distributor, with the lifetime rebuild. I will also be interested in the unknown yet to be seen Kirby.
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Post# 140413 , Reply# 169   6/20/2011 at 22:53 (4,686 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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I should have said since I have been collecting Kirbys being 43 years old and collecting Kirby`s since the 70`s , but here in the Northeast Kirby never sold the H2 Legend II with the G3 . I am from Pennsylvania orig. and my family had a beach house at the Jersey shore where I now reside and both of my Kirby dealers in Pa. & NJ sold all of their H2 Legand II stock before they began to sell the new G3 model.Some dealers might have had left over stock and offered both Legend II and the G3 . I have no idea about the R or the C as they were before my time but very interesting to learn that , thank you Robert for the info.
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Post# 140418 , Reply# 170   6/20/2011 at 23:19 (4,686 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)   |   | |
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Post# 140453 , Reply# 175   6/21/2011 at 09:40 (4,685 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)   |   | |
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Post# 140480 , Reply# 178   6/21/2011 at 14:53 (4,685 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Jon, I know Kirby`s next vacuum will be a true hit . You are very lucky to have seen and worked with it . I hear because they want the machine to be flawless when it is finally released and the economy is the reason for the delay. The introduction for the 100th anniversary will be very exciting .I seem to be a minority but a true and avid Kirby collector/aficionado as in wanting Kirby to totally improve and release a newly redesigned Kirby from the ground up with it`s heritage in mind. It`s just like I am an automobile aficionado and only drive the cars made by the inventor of the automobile and many of the people who drive those cars prefer the older models where as I am always excited when they release new models greatly improved but with the heritage of their roots still in every car they produce. Kirby reminds me of that car company even though they are foreign and Kirby is made in the good ole USA . I have my money ready to purchase two as soon as they are released to continue my Kirby collection way into the future.
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Post# 140510 , Reply# 180   6/21/2011 at 20:29 (4,685 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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here in NJ a very high up Kirby distributer who later went on to run Kirby in Texas his name is Richard Rassner might of mispelled his last name. Rich actually had a Legand II that was a prototype Self propelled model that he was given to test before they actually released the G3 and his office in this area was a very big selling office. His second hand guy Bob took over the business and has run it for years ever since rich left. Bob knows all the inside people at Kirby and did say they must have had left overs that they all bought of the L2 because the dealers were not ready for the change as most people on here do not seem to be either. I had purchased two of the very first G3`s that were offered in 1989 I still have one left NIB never used. I had instantly loved the new Kirby G3 and love the entire line of the G series. I can not wait until the newest one is released for the anniversary. By the way Rich who I mentioned above now heads Rexair Rainbow in some form and is very happy with the company. Kirby let a lot of good people go a few years back and I think that has something to do with the delay of the new Kirby also.
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Post# 140735 , Reply# 191   6/23/2011 at 19:10 (4,683 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)   |   | |
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I probibly just lost millions on my switch thougths. Oh well I don't like money any way. Is th patent office still open at this hour of the day? |
Post# 141160 , Reply# 193   6/27/2011 at 21:32 (4,679 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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My God, this thread has been around since December! Is this some sort of new forum record? VW |
Post# 141171 , Reply# 194   6/27/2011 at 21:49 (4,679 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)   |   | |
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Guys, I'd rather Kirby just shut down than bring out this new model. They could never recreate the old days.
As ABBA's Bjorn Ulvaeus says, "Money is not a factor and we would like people to remember us as we were - young, exuberant and full of energy and ambition." Additionally, Benny Andersson says, "We could never recreate the old days. I'd rather be remembered for the way we were 30 years ago." ~Ben |
Post# 141192 , Reply# 195   6/27/2011 at 22:16 (4,679 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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as a Kirby Lover I can`t wait until the new and improved model is released.I could only imagine if all companies that produced products never improved or updated the products they made the result would be there would be not one company left and how would America and the world survive ? Inovation and improvement is what makes the world work . Just imagine what the unemployment rate would be if that would happen ? It would be much higher than todays 9.1 % and be more like 100% .
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Post# 141194 , Reply# 196   6/27/2011 at 22:18 (4,679 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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I just truly hope that they wont turn into a plastivac company and start selling cheap plastivacs just like Hoover and so many other great companies did. VW |
Post# 141282 , Reply# 200   6/28/2011 at 12:09 (4,678 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Post# 141351 , Reply# 203   6/28/2011 at 21:21 (4,678 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 141355 , Reply# 204   6/28/2011 at 21:35 (4,678 days old) by Sablekid ()   |   | |
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The ONLY complaint I hear about Kirby is the price. I know good quality has its price, but sometimes I think you should go for volume of sales rather than high profit/low sales. |
Post# 141366 , Reply# 205   6/28/2011 at 22:17 (4,678 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)   |   | |
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It is most definitely not that people are lazy... Dan said it right. And I know a lot of older people that have Kirbys and it is way to hard for them to get all of the tools together and get them connected. My grandma is like this. It is nearly impossible for her to do so. And every adult that I know that owns a Kirby uses all of the attachments and knows how to work a belt lifter. I even know people with all-metal Royals that use the attachments on them, and that is FAR more of a pain then a Kirby...
And the "over educated fools" remark REALLY gets under my skin. Just because some people don't collect vacuums or work on something mechanical does NOT make them a 'fool'. Chase |
Post# 141382 , Reply# 207   6/28/2011 at 22:39 (4,678 days old) by vac_whisperer ()   |   | |
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Yeah, it gets under my skin, too. :S VW |
Post# 141434 , Reply# 212   6/29/2011 at 09:24 (4,677 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)   |   | |
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Completely true. I myself could never use only a Kirby for its entire life. On board tools are very handy when using the hose. That why I loved my $39 Bissell Powerforce, handle on the hose, simple tools and light. Too bad it gave me headaches while using it for long periods.
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Post# 142204 , Reply# 221   7/6/2011 at 20:53 (4,670 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 142321 , Reply# 223   7/8/2011 at 07:36 (4,668 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 142340 , Reply# 224   7/8/2011 at 10:48 (4,668 days old) by hoover1 ()   |   | |
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I hope the new kirby looks more like the old ones. Josh |
Post# 142420 , Reply# 226   7/8/2011 at 20:42 (4,668 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )   |   | |
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I am up for any kind of design as long as they do not subtract metal and add more plastic. Keep them lasting a lifetime.... |