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Post# 115946   11/26/2010 at 19:35 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

i got a vacuum which has been on my vacuum wish ist for a long time! A hoover dial-a-matic! Its blue and cream olored with flower decals. Could someone help me identify age? Thanks. Ill post pics later.




Post# 115950 , Reply# 1   11/26/2010 at 20:13 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Beautiful condition:

Post# 115951 , Reply# 2   11/26/2010 at 20:14 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Underside:

Post# 115952 , Reply# 3   11/26/2010 at 20:14 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Backside:

Post# 115953 , Reply# 4   11/26/2010 at 20:24 (3,244 days old) by HooverCelebrity ()        

I think that's a model 1136? From the early 70s, I believe.

I always liked that mode. I have a pretty nice one; I'll have to dig it our and play with it one of these days.


Post# 115956 , Reply# 5   11/26/2010 at 21:04 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Thnks fred. I thought maybe it was pre-1969, becuse theres no power drive. But thanks for the info! Oh, and sorry i got mad at you a few weeks ago. You were right, i was being immature.

Post# 115957 , Reply# 6   11/26/2010 at 21:08 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        
forgot to add this to my last post

This is actually my first older hoover. I dont have anything older than this, exept my kirby D-50.

Post# 115960 , Reply# 7   11/26/2010 at 21:16 (3,244 days old) by HooverCelebrity ()        

Even after 1969, they still made non-power-drive DAMs. They were just considered middle of the line/top of the line just as there were middle of the line/top of the line Convertibles.



Post# 115961 , Reply# 8   11/26/2010 at 21:24 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        
thanks.

Thanksfor your help. Im still lovin it! The bag was full when i got it, so i took another vacuum, stuck the hose in the bag, and vacuumed it out. The people who had i before me must have had pets, cause there was a lot of hair in the bag. I have some panasonic bags that might fit it, but do you know what other types of bags would fit?


Post# 115963 , Reply# 9   11/26/2010 at 21:26 (3,244 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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What a looker!

Post# 115967 , Reply# 10   11/26/2010 at 21:30 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Call me dumb, but i dont exactly know what that means, but im sure its good! Thanks. It has a few dings, and theres no little hoover sticker on the nozzle. Other than that, its perfect!

Post# 116000 , Reply# 11   11/26/2010 at 23:20 (3,244 days old) by powertank ()        

DAMs take Hoover D bags, which are not too hard to find. Any good vacuum store will have them. It's kind of funny, they're designed to need frequent replacement.



Post# 116008 , Reply# 12   11/26/2010 at 23:37 (3,244 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Sorry, a looker- good looking.

Post# 116035 , Reply# 13   11/27/2010 at 09:05 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

@suckolux- Thanks!
@powertank: I know they take hoover D type bags, becaus i checked when i bought it, ($11.04!) and on the bottom it id, "Uses Genuine Hoover Type D Bgs". Say, i posted a video of it on my blog. Check it out:


CLICK HERE TO GO TO kirby16's LINK


Post# 116047 , Reply# 14   11/27/2010 at 10:45 (3,244 days old) by joe22 ()        
wow

never seen one in deep blue, and with flower decals CONGRATS

Post# 116064 , Reply# 15   11/27/2010 at 13:53 (3,244 days old) by kirby16 ()        

@joe22: Did you check out the video?

Post# 116104 , Reply# 16   11/27/2010 at 17:39 (3,244 days old) by joe22 ()        
question ? ? ?

never saw a DAM with the T height lever, how long was it in use, why did hoover do away with it ? ? ?

saw the vid ;-)


Post# 116110 , Reply# 17   11/27/2010 at 18:37 (3,243 days old) by Ohio_Tuec ()        

The T-height lever was in use on all non power drive Dial-A-Matics from about 1970 (with the model 1130) until about 1978. When the Concept 1 debuted in 1978, Hoover switched to a sliding height adjuster. My guess being with the new plastic base, the T height adjuster would have put too much strain on the housing. Does anyone know if the U5015 or the U5017 was the last non power drive DAM model?

Post# 116112 , Reply# 18   11/27/2010 at 19:30 (3,243 days old) by joe22 ()        
but

i have seen green and orange DAMs that did not have the T, they were not power drives ? ? ? ?

Post# 116116 , Reply# 19   11/27/2010 at 20:09 (3,243 days old) by Ohio_Tuec ()        

Not all non power drive models had the T. It was something they started doing from 1970-on. The Dial-A-Matic first came out in 1963. That orange non power drive model sounds like an 1120 from 1968. It did not have the T.

Post# 116120 , Reply# 20   11/27/2010 at 21:24 (3,243 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Well, my DAM is ruined. :*( I dont know if you looked at the ictures closeley enough or not, but it had a big "$14.99" written across it. My dad went to get it off with some "goop off", and it got the sharpie off it. But it also erased the "H" in the hoover logo and the "check" on the check bg indicator is gone, and theres white all over the front. Its ruined!!!!! *bursts into tears*

Post# 116126 , Reply# 21   11/27/2010 at 22:09 (3,243 days old) by kirby16 ()        

ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS HOW TO FIX THIS?!??!

Post# 116133 , Reply# 22   11/27/2010 at 23:56 (3,243 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Sounds like irreversible damage if the surface is 'melted'. Sorry to hear this.

Is the white merely smeared white lithograph ink (try a Mr Clean magic Eraser on it) or is the surface of the plastic visibly melted and marred?

This is how we all learned our lessons. Different plastics & recognition of their properties is one of them.

Citrus based gum removers like Goof-Off and Goo-Gone (environmentally and PC friendly as they may be) are highly corrosive to many shiny hardshell plastics used for contemporary vacuum cleaners and are just about the worst fluid on styrene-based plastics because they eat away and dissolve the plastic surface. Depending on the plastic's compositional blend it is not always evident at first swipe. Vinyl-based plastics such as polypropylene are virtually impervious to citrus cleaners but ABS is usually not. Both types of plastic are used on the DAMS such as the back but the bag cover is styrene-based, iirc.

Grease pencil china marker usually comes off cleanly with soap & water.

To remove 'permanent' Magic Marker or Sharpie ALWAYS first try a vigorous scrub with a Mr Clean Magic Eraser. This removes most of the surface ink and depending on how long the marker has been on the plastic, sometimes the marker has reacted and left a faint stain.
If the mark still faintly shows follow up with a fresh Magic Eraser.
Only then do you get out the adhesive remover.
The ONLY gum adhesive remover I will use on a vacuum is Naphtha aka Lighter Fluid such as Ronsonol. It will NOT attack the plastic but may soften the printing so careful application is essential around silk screened logos & such.

All the alleged gum adhesive cleaners on the market have warning labels on the back; it is always best to err on the side of caution and always always always do a test patch on a hidden inside surface when in doubt - which should be EVERY time.
Ruined and defaced the front of my Kenmore Portable AC unit cabinet when a friend decided to help out removing the peel & stick marketing label panel on the front with Goo-Gone; the surface now looks like a burn scar.
Just as Varsol and Turpentine have different properties for cleaning oil paint brushes, so too are Naphtha and Citrus Cleaners entirely different solvents.
Similarly, many people believe the advertising that WD-40 is an all purpose lubricant, rust-inhibitor and price label sticker cleaner. In fact it has exactly the opposite effect if left in place for any length of time.
WWD-40 is permanently banned from all my work stations.

I'm sure others here can post their fool-proof favorites that never fail.

Dave


Post# 116185 , Reply# 23   11/28/2010 at 10:58 (3,243 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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"got the sharpie off it. But it also erased the "H" in the hoover logo and the "check" on the check bag indicator is gone"

Whoops, I jumped the gun. Sounds like the plastic didn't melt after all; I was thinking of more recent vintage plastics.

By now you've probably carefully rubbed away all traces of the white ink smear - Q-tips and wood toothpicks are useful when cleaning a textured surface. Next step is to hand-letter the H in a matte white model paint like Testors. Follow with a good all-over paste wax on the bag cover and she's shiny & good as new.
Want to post a before and after picture of the smear for us?

Good luck.


Post# 116211 , Reply# 24   11/28/2010 at 13:17 (3,243 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
kirby16

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I thought you might like to see this:

Post# 116212 , Reply# 25   11/28/2010 at 13:18 (3,243 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        
kirby16

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Hoover

Post# 116214 , Reply# 26   11/28/2010 at 13:51 (3,243 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Nice job! Great pics! Kind gesture.

Post# 116235 , Reply# 27   11/28/2010 at 15:55 (3,243 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Before-- Its actually a lot worse than the picture depicts

Post# 116236 , Reply# 28   11/28/2010 at 15:58 (3,243 days old) by vacman117 (Valparaiso, IN)        

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I have that same model and I love it! The only issue with mine is that there is some sun damage on the sides =/
Dial A Matics are great vacuums though in my opinion!


Post# 116243 , Reply# 29   11/28/2010 at 16:10 (3,243 days old) by joe22 ()        

go to a craft store and get some small bottles of paint and small brushes, ask the store person if it will hold up on plastic, you can touch it up and as dave said wax over it. always test stuff in an out of the way area before you use it

Post# 116244 , Reply# 30   11/28/2010 at 16:11 (3,243 days old) by kirby16 ()        

The crap just doesnt wnt to come off! Ive tried nail polish and soap+water, and it wont come off! What else can i use?

Post# 116353 , Reply# 31   11/29/2010 at 07:32 (3,242 days old) by kittingerhoover ()        
STRANGELY RARE!!

Take a look at this, it was as I suspected on the first picture, the E and R as well as the flower graphic is BACKWARDS!! You have a rare treat as this machine missed quality control.

I would keep it forever, and in fact I would not do ANYTHING else to the front of that thing, to me that error makes it incredibly valuable.

On another note I may have a front for that thing let me check

Dennis


Post# 116358 , Reply# 32   11/29/2010 at 08:51 (3,242 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Good one, Dennis. LOL

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Um, all of Kirby16's pictures are reversed mirror images as shown by the lettering on that jacket on the stand, if the backside shot with the hose coming out the 'wrong' side wasn't clue enough.

What the heck kinda bassackwards cellphone camera are ya using there?

Retail Nail Polish Remover is a blend of pure Acetone and light oil formulated to not damage human tissue while stripping the enamel from the nails. It should not be anywhere near a precious vacuum as it can spot and blister the paint on the metal base - like Industrial Polystrippa - Yikes! Acetone evaporates quickly and is another solvent that will melt styrene plastics. Obviously the DAM's vinyl-ized shell is not being affected. It is unlikely that polish remover would have any effect other than making a mess much messy-er.

Since the "goop off" your Dad used did the dissolving of the lettering in the first place that's the same stuff you use to clean up the smearing. But do it right...lay the machine face up on a table on a towel to avoid running drips. Sit in a chair under a bright light. After wiping away the surface smear, use toothpicks and Q-tips dipped in "goop off" to detail clean in and around the textured bumps.

Dave


Post# 116420 , Reply# 33   11/29/2010 at 19:13 (3,241 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Thanks for the info! Im only gonna post on the weekends so dont reply to me until then.




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