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miele s5 or Aerus lux guardian ultra |
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Post# 114678   11/15/2010 at 14:17 (4,881 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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which one could be the better vacuum for me ? i like the miele earth but i like the ultra too? |
Post# 114692 , Reply# 1   11/15/2010 at 15:59 (4,881 days old) by riccarstar ()   |   | |
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depends...what are your needs? what are you wanting to do? what kind of flooring do you have?... any pets? etc. riccarstar |
Post# 114701 , Reply# 2   11/15/2010 at 18:17 (4,881 days old) by joe22 ()   |   | |
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new lux has had probs, posted here not to long ago, but id always go aerus lux |
Post# 114703 , Reply# 3   11/15/2010 at 18:41 (4,881 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 114704 , Reply# 4   11/15/2010 at 18:42 (4,881 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 114734 , Reply# 5   11/15/2010 at 22:16 (4,881 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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i dont have pets i ve in an apt . i already have a kirby g6. but i like canisters too. i think either one id be spending about the same bc with the earth its like 969 with the 200 seb 236 |
Post# 114763 , Reply# 6   11/16/2010 at 08:36 (4,880 days old) by 15brandon ()   |   | |
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i would also go with electrolux too because the filters for miele are quite expensive and electrolux is a very good heavy duty cleaner and very popular |
Post# 114835 , Reply# 7   11/16/2010 at 18:50 (4,880 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)   |   | |
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Hi,
I actually had both. You would do well to stick with the Miele Earth until Aerus fixes the Lux Guardian It is way too loud, has way too much suction with no ability to lessen it. The air control valve is useless to reduce the airflow. When you try to vacuum furniture or bedspreads with the sidekick it will actually stall out. The suction separates the inner liner of the bag from the outer paper bag. This exposes just the outer bag making the liner useless. Aerus is supposed to be fixing this. I actually sent them bags for their engineers to look at when I found the problem and reported it to them. This vacuum needs a variable speed motor like the Miele's. Don't get me wrong, I am a true Electrolux fan and am disappointed in the Lux Guardian Ultra. I recently bought a Lux Legacy brand new in box on Ebay. It has air escaping from the carry handle. Don't know if this is a big problem or not. I pm'd someone on the Abby's forum about this and he said it depends on whether the air is coming from the exhaust port after the exhaust filter or whether their is a leak before that, which in turn would reduce cleaning effectiveness. Ok I did not intend to go into all this detail. Pro's and Con's for me Lux manuevers better and is lighter. Lux power nozzle has L shape and Miele doesn't. The Miele Power Nozzle cleans better than the lux. (Lux has too soft a brush roll now and it does not fluff the nap as well. I tried to get a stiffer brush and was told they only make this one now.) Miele has onboard tools, the Lux is on the handle now with the Ultra. Miele's hepa filter is better built. Miele's bags at this point are much better. I mentioned the suction control on the Lux. If you vacuum drapes or something delicate, they will get sucked in and wrinkle. (Had to press my drapes). I do like the auto shutoff when it's time to change the bag on the lux, but you loose the control of how full you want the bag to get. It is set to normal from the factory. Anyway those are just my experiences with both machines. I think for the money, you get more with the Miele at this point. Which ever one you choose, you will still get a good vacuum. Bud |
Post# 114864 , Reply# 8   11/16/2010 at 20:36 (4,880 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()   |   | |
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I'd go for the Miele.... the new Lux machines do not impress me at all, and if you don't have a Miele, you need one.... everyone should have at least one! |
Post# 114905 , Reply# 9   11/16/2010 at 22:36 (4,880 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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thanks guys i think i might go with the miele i like it better. and ive been wanting one forever. i just need to get rid of my rainbow e. anyone want to bit . im selling it for 450. or more. . |
Post# 114910 , Reply# 10   11/16/2010 at 23:56 (4,880 days old) by rexaird ()   |   | |
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I might be interested in it, but I want to see good detailed PICS please. |
Post# 114912 , Reply# 11   11/17/2010 at 00:23 (4,880 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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I think the air that you noticed escaping from the carrying handle on your Legacy is the exhaust air. When I had my Epic 6500 I noticed the same thing. I have an Epic 6000 now but I dont use it very often so I havent noticed if it does the same thing. I check it out tomorrow night and report my finds. The Lux is not "sealed" the way a Miele is so I think the strong force from the exhaust beneath the on board tools, is also forced under control panel and into the carrying handle.
My vote for a brand new vac is for Miele. Electrolux is the vacuum that started my love of vacuums, probably around age 2, and I still love them. However, if you are trying to be a savy shopper and get the greatest bang for your buck, I think the Miele is the way to go. They are quiet, filter well, have a variable speed motor, wonderful bags, and the SEB236 power nozzle is absolutely awesome!! I traded my 6500 and Renaissance in for a brand new Red Velvet and later added a Blue Moon because I was so please with their preformance compared to the Luxes I had been using for years. I dont think you will be disappointed with the Miele, especially if you already have a Kirby and appreciate a well made deep cleaning vac. |
Post# 114913 , Reply# 12   11/17/2010 at 00:24 (4,880 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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rexaird. email me at jwayne_donnell14@yahoo.com i dont have a digtal camera but i can take pics with my phone. it comes with the tool and power head and shampoor it hooks with to the sink.... |
Post# 114914 , Reply# 13   11/17/2010 at 00:30 (4,880 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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so the lux isnt sealed like the miele.. @bimmer 740. do you have a facebook |
Post# 114916 , Reply# 14   11/17/2010 at 00:48 (4,880 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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I cant think of any mass marketed machine off the top of my head that is sealed like a Miele. I dont know if they were the first to pioneer the completely sealed system, but its something that Miele has been priding themselves on for years. The sealed system makes complete sense considering the high filtration bags and HEPA filter. If the system is not sealed, then it seems that you defeat the purpose of spending more money on a machine which has a HEPA filter slapped on top of it but can leak dusk from many other places before its exhaust even reaches the HEPA filter. This was factor in my decission to purchase a Miele, and its a testimet to their quality engineering.
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Post# 114928 , Reply# 16   11/17/2010 at 08:37 (4,879 days old) by 15brandon ()   |   | |
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what about price range of miele's and electrolux's |
Post# 114952 , Reply# 18   11/17/2010 at 14:35 (4,879 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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does the ultra lux filter the air coming out the vacuum as well as the miele |
Post# 114987 , Reply# 20   11/17/2010 at 17:59 (4,879 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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imgonna go with miele. hey willam add me on facebook. joshdonnell the one with the pic of me |
Post# 115015 , Reply# 21   11/17/2010 at 22:09 (4,879 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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I have to disagree with what was said above about the cost to maintain the Lux and Miele. The Electrolux is much less costly to maintain versus the Miele. The Guardian Ultra uses type C bags and when purchased directly from Lux as a 24 pack or 100 pack, the cost per bag is between $1.16 to $1.50, give or take a few cents for tax. On the contrary the Miele bags when purchased online at a discount are about $4.5o per bag. The HEPA filters for each machine costs between $40 to $50 depending on where they are purchased. However the Miele bags filter much better than the Lux bags and can hold a lot of dirt while still maintaining suction power. But Im not sure that you can equate what the Miele holds to be up to 3 Lux bags (which would bring the price point to the same level).
I owed my Mieles for a few years and I think I only changed the HEPA filter once in maybe 3 years. I always used genuine Miele bags and the filter always seemed to be clean. I cant say how often you would have to change the filter on the Lux but Im guessing that once per year would be the normal frequency. One last thing to consider if you plan on keeping the machine for a long time is the 20 year warranty compared with a 5 year warranty (Thats how long it was when I bought mine) on the Miele. If you do go with the Miele you should seriously consider upgrading to the SEB236 power nozzle, it cleans circles around the 217. Best of luck! |
Post# 115018 , Reply# 22   11/17/2010 at 23:35 (4,879 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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hey bimmer add me on facebook joshdonnell. and who ever wants to i need more vacuum buds. look for the one that has a pic. thank you guys |
Post# 115127 , Reply# 23   11/19/2010 at 11:58 (4,877 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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does the seb 236 vibrate the carpet |