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Original Hoover Constellation Model 86
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Post# 8915   2/2/2007 at 23:33 (3,796 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area)        

Is there any interest in an original Hoover Constellation Model 86? I know where there is one, and I might be able to pick it up this weekend as I'm purchasing other stuff.

The vac is just the container. There is no power cord, hose, or attachments. It is yellow in color. It doesn't appear to be dented but it very dusty and needs some TLC. I don't know if it works, either.

I know some people are very fond of Constellations, but since a new version is available in stores I wasn't sure it was worth making an offer on this one last weekend. But you never know.





Post# 8917 , Reply# 1   2/3/2007 at 00:23 (3,796 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
Thanks for the offer....

...and I think...perhaps I may be wrong...but I think the original Constellation was actually Model 82; and it was two tone blue. When I was a youngster, our neighbor had one. Also, I have a picture of mine in the collections album on this web site. The original Blue Constellation matched the Hoover Model 63. Later the light tan beige color model 84 matched the Hoover Model 64 called the Citation. It was a beige color as well. I think I am correct on this but for sure the Hoover specialists should chime in.

Post# 8918 , Reply# 2   2/3/2007 at 01:20 (3,796 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area)        

Thanks.

I didn't mean to say that the 86 was the FIRST Constellation, only that this was a vintage version, not the modern retro re-issue.



Post# 8919 , Reply# 3   2/3/2007 at 02:05 (3,796 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
Oh...

...now I understand what you meant. An original as opposed to the new 2007 version. That makes sense. Arent' words funny! It's so easy to find different meanings in exactly the same words! :)


Post# 8921 , Reply# 4   2/3/2007 at 06:23 (3,796 days old) by vacuumboy95 ()        

wait one minute!I have an orignal hoover connie 86 and mine is light blue.that must be the remake model.

Post# 8931 , Reply# 5   2/3/2007 at 10:22 (3,796 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
Perhaps it's a different blue...

...here is the Model 82

Post# 8932 , Reply# 6   2/3/2007 at 10:23 (3,796 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
Here is the ID plate

...underneath the cleaner.

Post# 8933 , Reply# 7   2/3/2007 at 10:24 (3,796 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
Here is

the model 84..

Post# 8934 , Reply# 8   2/3/2007 at 10:25 (3,796 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
And....

the ID plate for it...

Post# 8935 , Reply# 9   2/3/2007 at 10:27 (3,796 days old) by vacuumkid3 ()        

Well, if it's free...I'd love it! :-) Well, maybe not FREE, but close to it! LOL! I have always wanted one! I can pay the shipping, too. Email me and we can discuss this! Thanks!

~~K~~


Post# 8936 , Reply# 10   2/3/2007 at 10:30 (3,796 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
I do remember that...

Hoover made several different blue colors for the Constellation.

There was one blue that sort of coordinated with the blue of the Convertable Model 70. I don't know much about those later model Constellations. Certainly Tom Anderson would know. One thing about Hoovers...variety abounds!


Post# 8947 , Reply# 11   2/3/2007 at 17:40 (3,795 days old) by akabent (Orange County)        
Hoover Constellation

Hi there! The 82 and 84 Constellations shown here are really nice! A side note, this 84 is a LATER and seemingly rarer version of the 84. Yours has the LATER bottom skirt which allowed for better floatation and was continued thereafter. The 'earlier' 84 looked very much like an 82 from the side, but this earlier 84 DID float as well. The earlier one, like the 82, also was hinged and therefore tilted from the base for easier blower access. Again, very nice specimens!! And yes, the 82 was the first Connie!!
Rick


Post# 8950 , Reply# 12   2/3/2007 at 18:50 (3,795 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Akabent...you are absolutely correct about the differences in the 84 run of the Constellation. I am not sure which is the rarer version...they both seem hard to find!HA!

The 86 originally came in gold to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the company in 1958. It was a top line model. It got shuffled down the lineup a bit as the years went on and by the early 60's they changed it to blue WITHOUT changing the model number. The early 86's used a step on switch and had a wire tool rack. The later ones just used an ordinary metal toggle switch and no place for your tools.

Great Pics!!!

--Tom


Post# 8953 , Reply# 13   2/3/2007 at 19:44 (3,795 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Colour changes without changing models...

Hey Tom

As you know Hoover over here were VERY good @ this. Is the 86 the only US model this happened on???

Seamus


Post# 8954 , Reply# 14   2/3/2007 at 21:19 (3,795 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Oh no...plenty more models had this happen during their run...too many to list!!! Many times there were "CRs" (Cost Reductions) that led to changes during the run...case in point was the 84 Connie and the 84b Connie. It just makes it more fun for us collectors to find and sort out all of these differences.

--Tom


Post# 8964 , Reply# 15   2/3/2007 at 23:44 (3,795 days old) by frkirby511 ()        
Tom..

Since the Model 82 coordinated with the Upright Model 63, and the Model 84 had the same colors as the Citation, and various collectors' pictures show a pink Connie that looks like it coordinated with the first Convertable, Model 65, then did this pairing continue?


I remember that the Hoover salesman [at least the one my mother dealt with] always encouraged her to have two cleaners, both an upright and a canister. He always said that it was better than bying the attachments for the upright. Mom never did listen to him about this, but I wonder, was that standard sales proceedure? Did they ever make a Connie to coordinate with every color of the Convertables. Specifically, did they make a Connie to coordinate with the Convertable Model 69? Just wondering???

Bruce


Post# 8966 , Reply# 16   2/4/2007 at 01:41 (3,795 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Constellations!

Bruce~

The model 82 matched the model 63 (Blue)
The model 84 (84 and 84B) matched the model 64 (Sandalwood)
The model 85 matched the model 65 Convertible (Heather Rose Pink/ Pearl White)
The early model 86 Constellation was, as Tom said, the 50th anniversary model--if you want to get technical, I suppose it 'matched' the golden model 65 Convertible. The later yellow model 86s didn't 'match' anything.
The model 87 matched the model 66 Convertible (Garland Green)
The model 88 matched the model 67 Convertible (Fawn Pink)
The later blue model 86 Constellations matched the model 68 Convertible (Porcelain Blue)
The model 434 matched a promotional Convertible model 574 (White/Canton Red)
The model 444 matched the model 34 Convertible Special (Bittersweet Orange)
The model 454 matched the model 36 Convertible Special (Nassau Blue [turquoise])
The Model 843 (tilted) matched the model 1060 Convertible (Autumn Gold/Seal Griege)
The model 858 matched the model 1120 Dial A Matic (Orange/Brown)

The last two Constellations--yellow/brown, and the orange/brown had other cleaners that matched them... The Floor A Matic, the Handivac, the Portable, Swingette, all came in those shades of brown and oragne, and the Handivac, Floor A Matic, and Portable all came in those shades of brown and yellow.

Unfortunately there was not a Constellation that matched the model 69. However, the first model of the Portable (all the way to the left in my picture) was in a similar color.

Hope this all makes sense!

~Fred


Post# 8968 , Reply# 17   2/4/2007 at 01:45 (3,795 days old) by hoovercelebrity ()        
Some matching Convertibles...

Find [some of] the matching machines, if you can... :)

I don't have a model 574 Convertible, or a model 34 Convertible Special. The 63, 64, and Dial A Matic are out of sight in the picture.



Post# 8997 , Reply# 18   2/4/2007 at 17:15 (3,794 days old) by sudsman ()        
OOOHHH Fred

How Beautiful!

Post# 10681 , Reply# 19   3/6/2007 at 23:44 (3,764 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area)        

OK, I finally got back to the barn where the old Constellation was stored. It's missing thehose and power cord. When I picked it up, it rattled. So I opened it and inside was the motor, in many pieces. In other words, a gutted Constellation.

The color is more tan than yellow. And it is indeed an 86. And not pretty ;-)


Post# 10689 , Reply# 20   3/7/2007 at 01:13 (3,764 days old) by swingette ()        

i always thought of it as a light caramel color.

Post# 10696 , Reply# 21   3/7/2007 at 09:16 (3,764 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
Beautiful Collection

Hi Fred What a BEAUTIFUL collection of Hoovers I see the one that we used and is one of my favorites .The convertible # 65. They all look bran new. Did you buy then New? Do you have any Kirbys you can show. I really love Kirbys. You may e-mail if you like. Take care Doug

Post# 10701 , Reply# 22   3/7/2007 at 13:34 (3,763 days old) by scooterbug25 ()        

Oh GEE,, How long did it take you to get all these BEAUTIFUL Machines? Looks like a Showroom floor of a sales center! Very Nice!!




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