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Post# 91672   2/14/2010 at 12:42 (5,178 days old) by eluxca ()        

We will be moving into a beautiful new home in April that has hardwood and tile flooring throughout. We have always had a home that is fully carpeted and I've purchased vacuums that were best suited for carpeting. I love the Dyson DC17 I bought four months ago. It has totally changed my view on bagless machines and Dyson as a brand. While it is a phenomenal carpet cleaner, I don't think it is suited for hard floors.
So I am looking for an upright that is best for floors and and occasional area rug. I have a memory of Jack mentioning the DC25 for this kind of use, and it is in the running, but I would like to hear about other brands and machines, too. Additionally, if someone has a nice machine that could be traded for a nice DC17, I would be open to it.
Happy Valentine's Day to all,

John


Post# 91679 , Reply# 1   2/14/2010 at 13:10 (5,178 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
John...you'll be happier with a canister for bare floors

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Uprights can pick up surface litter and large dust balls, but nothing beats a good, manoeverable bare floor brush with soft bristles connected to a quiet canister. You might even consider the Dyson canister without the Motorhead - the one where the hose can be disconnected from the bulky wands for dusting furniture.

Post# 91684 , Reply# 2   2/14/2010 at 13:31 (5,178 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
A HOOVER "Connie" has a great new floor brush

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too. Yes, I'm partial, but they are good for hard floors.

Post# 91685 , Reply# 3   2/14/2010 at 13:32 (5,178 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
I'm sure others will be able to recommend other brands -

Remember that great slogan from the Hoover 700 ad - 'It pays to know the difference between The Hoover and a vacuum cleaner'?

It would be equally true now to say - 'It pays to know the difference between The Dyson and a bagless'!

The DC25 is a nice choice if you have big areas of hardwood flooring, but like most uprights, the size of the head will restrict it from going into some tight spots, which wouldn't be an issue for a canister-style parquet head. You can get one to fit the DC25, but you may find the wand a little short for extensive vacuuming. Maybe just use the parquet head for the hard-to-reach areas, and the cleaner in upright mode for the rest?

Are you totally set on an upright? It sounds like a canister like a powernozzle might be a better bet? Even as dedicated an upright-user as I am, I'd switch to using my DC23 Motorhead if I was living in a situation with mostly wood flooring.

As a side-note, many thanks for taking the time to share your opinion of the DC17 - it's really encouraging to have some independent feedback from someone who's genuinely appreciated the product!


Post# 91687 , Reply# 4   2/14/2010 at 14:04 (5,178 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
According to Consumer Reports, here are your best bets for b

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In order of cheapest to more expensive:

1. Miele S2120 Delphi (Good on carpet, excellent on bare floors, very good tool airflow and noise level, and excellent emission control) $500
2. Kenmore Intuition 28014 (Excellent on bare floors, excellent airflow for tool use, excellent emissions, very good on carpet and very good noise level)
3. Miele S514 Direct Connect (excellent on bare floors, excellent emissions control, very good airflow for tools, very good noise control, only a "good" on carpets) $730
4. Miele Calisto S5280 (same ratings as the S514 but more expensive $880)

You might also try the Electrolux Oxygen 6988 (my friends love this for their floors and throw rugs): it's only got a "good" rating on noise control, but it is excellent on floors and carpets, and is cheaper than all of the above ($430)

You might also look at the Miele Olympus which is the same as the Delphi, but cheaper because it does not have a motorized carpet nozzle - you can probably buy a Miele turbo nozzle for your throw rugs to go with this.

Miele probably has the best bare floor brush now with a very flexible head to move it into all types of floor terrain. So it might be best to try for a Miele for this reason alone!


Post# 91689 , Reply# 5   2/14/2010 at 14:10 (5,178 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Sorry forgot the CR price on the Kenmore Intuition....

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they list it as $600, but knowing Sears, it's often discounted from that price. It actually has a very neat power nozzle which incorporates a Bare Floor Brush inside of it. All you do is step on a pedal and remove the bare floor brush (while its connected to the wand) from the carpet nozzle, and voila...you're set to do floors!

Post# 91738 , Reply# 6   2/14/2010 at 20:51 (5,178 days old) by eluxca ()        
Thanks

All great suggestions!

Post# 91742 , Reply# 7   2/14/2010 at 21:04 (5,178 days old) by luxlife (Under a Pecan Tree)        

Whatever brand you decide upon, I'd definitely suggest upgrading to the floor brush pictured below. It's an aftermarket version of Miele's Parquet Twister type floor brush. I have the brush with my Capricorn and I don't know how I ever lived without it!

(www.thinkvacuums.com...)


Post# 91744 , Reply# 8   2/14/2010 at 21:22 (5,178 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA)        
My two cents worth ...

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I too have always been an upright fan, with Kirby as my favorite. I had always lived in homes with wall to wall carpet. Since I had back surgery two years ago, I as forced to move to a downstairs apartment about a year ago. This new apartment has all wood floors throughout except for the small bedroom which is carpeted. Needless to say, the Kirby was no longer suitable for the bare floors. I bought a used Filter Queen recently and now use it as my primary vacuum. It has a PN for the bedroom, and a great bare floor brush for the rest of the house. I realize that brand new Filter Queens are expensive, but a reconditioned one from a reputable vac shop is usually pretty reasonable. They are well made, and with reasonable care will last a lifetime. Just my two cents worth.

Joe


Post# 91745 , Reply# 9   2/14/2010 at 21:23 (5,178 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Why does it have to be new.. lotsa better vintage ones out there

Post# 91767 , Reply# 10   2/15/2010 at 08:10 (5,178 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Best new upright for hardwod floors

John,
There are several factors that you would need to consider with the hardwood floors. I found this to be a whole new ball game when picking out a vacuum.I had all wall-to-wall carpeting in the last house but this house changed the playing field because I have hardwood floors,tile,different types of area rugs and some carpeting. I would much prefer a tank type over any upright for the hardwood floors. I can give you some points that I found when using the different machines on my hardwood floors:
(1) good design of the floor brush
(2) easy to use hose and hose handle
(3) machine that rolls over door sills,different carpets edges and area rugs and STILL does not roll into everything on the smooth floor surface.
(4) Think noise level! They sound much louder on the hardwood floors
Of my machines the ones that DID NOT do very good job on the flooring:
(1) Rainbow was just too heavy and it caught on every differnet surface height.
(2) Hoover Connie blew dust EVERYWHERE and it caught on the different surfaces from an area rug to hardwood floor surface
(3) Hoover Anniverary Canister had very small wheels and it tended to pull sideways. Also the handle is at the floor level so it was not handy to pick up the machine. The hose was also stiff and short.
(4) Filter Queen(your machine in fact!) worked beautifully with the felt pad but it is heavy and it also catches on different surfaces
The machines that worked the best and were by far easier to use :
(1) Dyson canister will not tip over or catch on different surfaces and it has very good suction. It is somewhat loud and you do have to empty the container
(2) Electrolux Oxygen3-It glides over the different surfaces. It is easy to pull but at the same time did not bang into the furniture and walls. It is the quietist vacuum I have ever used and the bag holds a lot of dirt before it loses suction. It has very good air distribution for the exhaust.
(3) Miele-I do not have one but did try one out several times. It was quiet and had a very good floor brush. I am told the bags are expensive and I wasn't too crazy about how it moved on the floor.
(4) Still like the old Electrolux 2100. Easy to pull because of the shape,easy to change the bag but somewhat loud.
Let us know what you get for the new house.
All the machines I spoke of were very good cleaners but some were just easier to use on the hardwood and moving from one surface to another. When you have the hardwood floors the noise level and air distribution will be a more important factor that with the carpeting and your wife has to like the machine too!
Rob


Post# 91769 , Reply# 11   2/15/2010 at 08:41 (5,178 days old) by timborow (Georgia)        
Emer Donatello

I had this same situation a few months ago. While I know that tanks and canisters have their place, I really like to use an upright. I had an Oreck that had been used on my hardwoods for several years. It finally died, and I needed a replacement. I checked out stick vacuums and decided that might be my best option. I found an Emer Donatello on ebay for 150. It has a great floor brush and an optional power nozzle. It is quiet, powerful, and very user friendly. The only drawbacks I have found is that the bag is not very large and cord is pretty short. I am going to take mine to vac shop and have them replace the cord with a 35' to eliminate that problem. The bags are pretty cheap, but you can even buy a shake out bag for them. Check out this You Tube Link. This is what convinced me.
Tim


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Post# 91770 , Reply# 12   2/15/2010 at 08:48 (5,178 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

That Emer Donatello looks a lot like the 90s Hoover Acenta, and a lot like the 00's Hoover Junior...

Post# 91773 , Reply# 13   2/15/2010 at 09:33 (5,177 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
If you are looking for a great stick-vac for floors only....

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I highly recommend the cordless Swiffer SweeperVac. This lightweight rechargeable vac is extremely convenient to use and really does a great job. It's also quite inexpensive (I think $30 bucks at Wally Mart), even when you take into account the cost of the disposable Swiffer Pads. It's basically a Swiffer floor wiper combined with a Dustbuster on a stick! The suction channel at the front end picks up all the large debris - even out of corners - and the disposable cloth pad picks up all the electrostatic dust that suction alone can't remove. It's also very gentle on all floors as it does not use any harsh bristles. The swivel neck is a breeze to use and allows the unit to easily clean under low tables and around chair legs.

My 82-year old mom loves this thing! She uses it twice a day. It's light and easy for her to use on all the bare floors of her apartment, including marble, hardwood laminate and kitchen and bathroom tile. And the cloths are available in any grocery store.

See the link below....


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Post# 91796 , Reply# 14   2/15/2010 at 22:45 (5,177 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Best new upright for hardwood floors

Ok John,you made me do it! I got both my Dyson canister and my Electrolux Oxygen 3 out today and brought them upstairs for a side by side test.

The Electrolux strong points:
(1) quiet,quiet,quiet
(2) very good exhaust air design
(3) for me the Electrolux has a superior cleaning power nozzle
(4) self sealing bag and no dust container to empty

The Dyson strong points:
(1) slightly more suction
(2) very good design of dusting tools
(3) never has ANY oder or dusty smell
(4) no bags to buy

They are both very good machines. If I just HAD to buy only one, I think the Electrolux would win out just because I don't like to dump the dirt container of the bagless machine and I like a power nozzle that has adjustment and not just a "floating" nozzle. Both machines are pleasing to use and user friendly.
Rob


Post# 91831 , Reply# 15   2/16/2010 at 18:13 (5,176 days old) by eluxca ()        

OK, sounds like a canister or a stick vac is the way to go. Or a Regina model 59 - wish I still had one, drat!

Rob, if I knew we would be buying a house with no carpet I would have bought a Dyson DC23 like yours instead of the DC17. We have had wall to wall carpeting for the last 19 years, but we're excited about not having it any more. It just so 90's.... lol.

John



Post# 91861 , Reply# 16   2/16/2010 at 23:12 (5,176 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        

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My dad used to live in a Chicago Style loft downtown, and it was ALL hardwood floors. Very old. I bought a new Oreck 4120? Upright Two Speed. It is the black one, with LED lights, and the "intella shield". It was EXCELLENT for the floors there. First speed for hard floors, and second speed for rugs. I am not a fan of Orecks for daily use, but I will favor them for hard floors. Any 2 speed Oreck would be great for it. Hope this helps,
-Chase :)


Post# 91862 , Reply# 17   2/16/2010 at 23:47 (5,176 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        
John-

I have been really impressed with my Dyson DC-23... but I still think that my Miele is more user friendly--in just about every way.

~Fred


Post# 91865 , Reply# 18   2/17/2010 at 01:40 (5,176 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
My favorite upright for my hardwood floors would prolly be..

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My Sebo Felix! It comes with a bare floor brush that attaches easily, and be swapped out for a really nice power head. It does an incredible job on all the hard flooring in my house. It gets a ton of use! The floor nozzle has a swivel neck, and so its very maneuverable. It can easily get under, between, and around furniture. This is one of my favorite new vacuums available, and I would highly recommend it!

Post# 91866 , Reply# 19   2/17/2010 at 01:53 (5,176 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
Here's a pic of the underside of the floor tool...

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As you can clearly see, I use this thing a lot. We have really bumpy hardwood floors in my old house, so it's a little scuffed.

The reason the Felix floor nozzle works so well has to do with the narrow suction path that spreads the strong power evenly across the entire base. It has brushes that act like a squeegee, so it catches everything in its path. It originally had a row of brushes in the front of the suction nozzle, but it would push around large debris, so I removed it (slides right out). It works better better than any of my other uprights on bare floors. It also works a lot better than several new canister bare floor tools I've used! Well done Sebo!


Post# 91867 , Reply# 20   2/17/2010 at 01:58 (5,176 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
And for cleaning the rugs...

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The Sebo Felix comes with a great powerhead that really vibrates the carpet, and does an excellent job! The powerhead has a wonderfully low profile, along with a swivel neck, so it's also great for cleaning tight spaces.

This vacuum is well made, and quiet!


Post# 91872 , Reply# 21   2/17/2010 at 06:31 (5,176 days old) by eluxca ()        

Fred, I would agree with you that a Miele is more user friendly, but the Dyson impresses me with how much it can pull out of the carpet in one vacuuming. Dyson has room for improvement with the wand/hose setup on the DC23.

Chase, I'll take a look at the Oreck and use it at the store. If this model is as loud as previous Orecks it will set up quite an echo on hardwood floors.

Corey, excellent suggestion with the Felix. When I looked at them last I was disappointed in the quality of the paper bag. In the day of Filtrete bags, Sebo should have one to go with the Felix. That is the only thing keeping me from getting one though, a really nicely-designed cleaner.

John


Post# 91880 , Reply# 22   2/17/2010 at 10:04 (5,175 days old) by joe22 ()        

miele stick vac, um sorry they call it the *universal upright* guess that explaines the 3-400$ price ;-)

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Post# 91884 , Reply# 23   2/17/2010 at 12:46 (5,175 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        
Ooh! Felix!

I like Corey's recommendation. I hadn't even thought about the Felix.. If you need an upright, I'd say the Felix is the way to go. I like that it gives one the option to use a powerhead, should you ever need one. I have been extremely impressed with these every time I've played with one. And I know Corey has been talking very highly about this cleaner for quite a while now.

The Felix also has a hose for those "other" quick pickups that one may spot while cleaning..

While super-duper filtration on a vacuum is nice, I would think that the bags Sebo has along with the post-motor filter would be sufficient (although maybe not equivalent to Filtrete). Corey -- what are your thoughts on the filtration/bags?

I should really look into getting one of these... (Because I NEED another vacuum cleaner...)

:-)

Here's a link to download the snazzy brochure off of their website: (It will open a window to download right to your computer)


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Post# 91888 , Reply# 24   2/17/2010 at 13:17 (5,175 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Best new upright for hardwood floors

John,
I am excited for you with the new hardwood floors. I too had wall-to-wall carpeting for many years but now that I have the hardwood floors in the new house I really enjoy them. One thing for sure when you clean the hardwood floor you have all the dirt. It sure changes what features are important in picking a new cleaner.
I found the sound level and how easy the cleaner moves and how easy it is to carry became very important points.
We still have thick carpeting in the family room and bedrooms and although I LOVE my Dyson canister for the floors,it just does not cut it on the thick carpeting like my upright Kirby.
Keep us all posted. This has been a very interesting thread!
I wish I knew more about the Miele's. I wasn't that impressed with the ones I have used but Fred says they are very good (and Fred knows)and several vac shops tell me they are very well constructed.I guess I need to get one and give it a try!
Rob


Post# 91904 , Reply# 25   2/17/2010 at 18:57 (5,175 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        

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Fred and John-

Although the bags in the Felix are just regular paper material (they kinda remind me of old Airway bags, or Kirby Micron Magic bags), I actually really like them. I'm on my 4th bag now in the year that I've had it, and with a dog (and living on a dirt road) it has gotten a lot of fairly serious use. The bag chamber and secondary filter are still very clean. The bags are smaller, but they hold a a lot of dirt before they need to be changed. They really pack the dirt in.

The bags are incredibly easy to change, and the bags seal shut so you don't get a dust cloud when ya' toss them in the trash. The bags aren't Filtrete, but I don't think they really need to be. Plus they're a lot cheaper... about 2 bucks a bag. My Miele Solaris can vac (great machine) has the nicest bags I've ever seen in a vacuum, but they are a lot more expensive.

Here's a pic of the bag chamber after 4 very full bags... not too bad!





Post# 91905 , Reply# 26   2/17/2010 at 19:10 (5,175 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
Here is a pic of the bags..

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...

Post# 92116 , Reply# 27   2/23/2010 at 12:36 (5,169 days old) by kenkart ()        
JUST GET!

A good old model G Electrolux and forget all the new stuff, very quiet, powerful and dosent blow dust, what more can you ask for!

Post# 92128 , Reply# 28   2/23/2010 at 20:43 (5,169 days old) by luxg ()        

Hans, I'll second that suggestion for sure!!

Terry


Post# 92188 , Reply# 29   2/24/2010 at 20:36 (5,168 days old) by eluxca ()        

I have no shortage of model G's. It is my favorite vacuum from childhood - so many neighbors and family members had one. As a matter of fact, our next door neighbor in Paris, Ky, had a white and blue Hospital G without the big filter. She would let me use it from time to time.

I have the extra wide floor brush somewhere that would be perfect on great expanses of hardwood.

John


Post# 92192 , Reply# 30   2/24/2010 at 21:43 (5,168 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
What about the dust-storm caused by the orientation of the e

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Don't all classic North American Electroluxes blow the exhaust air out the back parallel to the floor? I would think that it would be better to use any of the newer vacs that blow the exhaust upwards from the machine, like Miele and Swedish Electrolux.

Post# 95602 , Reply# 31   4/7/2010 at 19:55 (5,126 days old) by kenkart ()        
Model G

The model G deflects the air upward,the older ones blow straight out the back.


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