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Post# 84001 , Reply# 1   11/13/2009 at 23:26 (5,248 days old) by kirbyotronic ()   |   | |
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Another... |
Post# 84002 , Reply# 2   11/13/2009 at 23:27 (5,248 days old) by kirbyotronic ()   |   | |
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And with the nozzle removed... |
Post# 84010 , Reply# 3   11/14/2009 at 01:32 (5,248 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 84027 , Reply# 4   11/14/2009 at 14:55 (5,248 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)   |   | |
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Post# 84033 , Reply# 5   11/14/2009 at 21:09 (5,247 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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Great machine Alex, I would say you got a good deal on it. Any idea where the attachments would have attached on this machine? Terry |
Post# 84038 , Reply# 6   11/14/2009 at 22:12 (5,247 days old) by vintageroyal611 ()   |   | |
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To use the attachments, you take of the rug nozzle and the hose would have an adapter that latched on in place of the nozzle. |
Post# 84062 , Reply# 7   11/15/2009 at 08:07 (5,247 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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Thanks Matt, I had a feeling that is the way you would do it but wasn't sure. |
Post# 84245 , Reply# 10   11/18/2009 at 14:39 (5,244 days old) by rickenbacker ()   |   | |
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didnt kirby or should I say, scott fetzer make these? Im sure they did atleast one vacuum under the health mor name and considering the looks well... Charlie |
Post# 84256 , Reply# 12   11/18/2009 at 18:17 (5,244 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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The Health-Mor vacuunm cleaner like Eureka, Hotpoint, Royal and several other brands were ALL made by the P. A. Geier company in Cleveland, Ohio. That's right not even Royal made it's own machines. Only the Air-Way, Hoover and Scott & Fetzer companies made their own machines. The P.A. Geier company was the birthplace for dozens of brands. Motor housings, metal tubular handles, handle forks, floor nozzles, bag slides, wands, and hose ends were all made here. I can't say for sure if the cloth bags were made by P. A. Geier or not, but the cords were made in Chicago by the Belden wire company known as The Wiremaker for Industry. As for the wooden handles and brushrolls they were from The Cleveland Wood Products company and all bristles for bare floor tools, dusting brushes, and so on were made by "The Fuller brush company.P. A. Geier suplied the parts and Royal etc. assembled the cleaners, pcaked and shipped the finished machines to the various retail stores or to warehouses to be sold. Even Electrolux didn't make the cord winders, if you read the lettering stamped on the back of the cord winder to a XXX or LX, to the left it will say. "CORDOMATIC REEL" And on the right. "VACUUM CLEANER CORP. PHILA. PA." As for the boxes, packaging and instruction book, they came from the Donnoly company, Chicago. (Not sure of spelling here!) Basically, all vacuum cleaners were a group effort and just part of a massive industry that made tosters, irons, coffee makers, washing machines and so on. Alex Taber |
Post# 84273 , Reply# 13   11/18/2009 at 23:07 (5,243 days old) by luxg ()   |   | |
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Very interesting Alex, thanks for sharing. Terry |
Post# 84338 , Reply# 14   11/20/2009 at 01:20 (5,242 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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And the original bag is frosting on the cake! It looks great now but will be even better after polishing. But may I make a correction on the History Lesson? Both Alex's are right--it was built by Royal or P. A. Geier, as it was the SAME company. Phillip A. Geier started business in Cleveland, OH in 1905, as a contracting machine shop. Eventually, he got into manufacturing, his first product being parts for punch presses. In either 1910 or 1912 (depending on which record you believe) he built his first vacuum cleaner, and called it the Royal. And, as Alex said, P.A. Geier Co. also built vacuums for other companies, and Health-Mor was at one time their biggest customer. In the early 50's they fell upon hard times and were acquired by the Schott Organization (yep, same ones who owned the Cincinnati Reds), who intended to liquidate the company, but instead sold it to a group of employees in 1954, who revitalized the company and renamed it the Royal Appliance Manufacturing Company. So P.A. Geier and Royal ARE the same company and their main product has always been the Royal vacuum cleaner, only the name of the company was changed along the way. Jeff |
Post# 84340 , Reply# 15   11/20/2009 at 01:46 (5,242 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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The only thing I knew was that the P A. Geier company made most of the Royal type vacuum cleaners and parts for other brands. The year it was started I did not know. I also knew a man who worked for Belden wire company, but as he was not intersted in my vacuum cleaner collecting, and refused to tell me the history of Belden. Kind of sad in a way, all that historic info gone to waste. I do know that Royal started out as a non-electric hand pumper, but the rest I would love to know. Feel free to share, Alex Taber. |
Post# 84410 , Reply# 16   11/21/2009 at 04:17 (5,241 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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Glad to help or share knowledge when I can. Royals and Royal products (especially Electro-Hygiene) have been a passion of mine even before I started collecting. But there is so much more that I don't know and would like to learn, including what years different models were introduced, how long they were built, etc. As for the Health-Mor, not only did P.A. Geier build the upright, but they also built the first models of Filter Queen Cannisters until Health-Mor acquired their own manufacturing facilities. The Belden story would be quite interesting, as their cords were used on quite a few machines besides the Lux XXX. Jeff |
Post# 84431 , Reply# 17   11/21/2009 at 18:15 (5,241 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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My reaearch is mostly Electrolux, and Kirby with a little bit of Air-Way here and there. I knew a little bit of P. A. Geier, but certainly not the history of the company. Looking at all those uprights Hotpoint, Bee-Vac, Royal, Eureka, and of course Health-Mor. I did not know that P. A. Geier built the first Filter Queen models, like my 200, but I see why they would. My guess is that as all motor housings, handles, rug nozzles, and whatnot were the same they were made from one mold for each part. What I found interesting was that while Electro-Hygiene was made by Royal, the Modern Hygiene was not, it came from a company in Connecticut. I have almost no info on that either but is a machine I love almost as much as Electrolux. But that is another topic, best save for later. Alex Taber. |
Post# 84469 , Reply# 18   11/22/2009 at 00:20 (5,240 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)   |   | |
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Post# 84482 , Reply# 19   11/22/2009 at 10:31 (5,240 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)   |   | |
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