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Post# 82880   10/23/2009 at 20:13 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

All wrapped up...

Post# 82881 , Reply# 1   10/23/2009 at 20:14 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Un-shrunk...

Post# 82882 , Reply# 2   10/23/2009 at 20:15 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

With the DC27 for size-comparison...

Post# 82883 , Reply# 3   10/23/2009 at 20:16 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

The Mini FlatOut head. Auto-adjusts to carpets or hard floors...

Post# 82884 , Reply# 4   10/23/2009 at 20:17 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Seriously low-profile. This gets under ANYTHING!

Post# 82885 , Reply# 5   10/23/2009 at 20:18 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Click-fit connections - so all current Dyson tools, and the extra-cost tools, will fit.

Post# 82886 , Reply# 6   10/23/2009 at 20:19 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Pre-motor filter...

Post# 82887 , Reply# 7   10/23/2009 at 20:19 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Post-motor filter...

Post# 82888 , Reply# 8   10/23/2009 at 20:21 (5,270 days old) by imacmacdaddy ()        

Does your DC22 have the DDM motor?

Post# 82889 , Reply# 9   10/23/2009 at 20:21 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Root Cyclone + Core Separator. The most efficient of any cyclonic separation system!

Post# 82890 , Reply# 10   10/23/2009 at 20:26 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

imacmacdaddy: Nope, sadly. We only have the DDM V2 here so far, in the DC30/31 handhelds. We have the DDM in the Airblade hand-driers, though.

Now what I really want is one of these...


Post# 82904 , Reply# 11   10/23/2009 at 21:06 (5,270 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
TV ad for the Baby...





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Post# 82906 , Reply# 12   10/23/2009 at 21:21 (5,270 days old) by luxg ()        

Wow Jack, love that flat-out nozzle, you could really get under just about anything. How is it on bare floors? That Baby is so cute, didn't realize they had these. Now that would be fun to have.

Terry


Post# 82921 , Reply# 13   10/24/2009 at 04:14 (5,270 days old) by shanonabc ()        

*smirk* :P

I love my 22 :)


Post# 82927 , Reply# 14   10/24/2009 at 08:12 (5,270 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Jack,
your pictures really show the how the design of the fabric brush (for air flow) and the hose handle look. They may look a little strange but are just great in use. No binding of the hose when using the tools.
I have been trying to tip mine over and it just won't do it.
It reminds me of using the BIG Wheel Lewyt. So easy to handle and I also like the hose that is a little bigger in diameter. After reading about the new root cyclones I understand why others say the have constant suction and Dyson can claim "No loss of suction". Thanks again for the pictures.


Post# 82933 , Reply# 15   10/24/2009 at 11:24 (5,269 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)        
Baby

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Is the Baby model actually a different, smaller DC22? Or are they all the same? I can't find "Baby" anywhere on Dyson's site.

Post# 82950 , Reply# 16   10/24/2009 at 16:41 (5,269 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Terry - it's a great little machine! Obviously, it's designed to be used in small apartments, flats, etc. It's not intended for a home of the size of the one I live in, but I don't make my new vacuum purchases based on logic - if I did, I'd probably only have one, and it would be the DC25!

It does fine on bare floors - pretty much the same as any straight-suction nozzle, but as you can see, it gets under furniture that an 'industry standard' nozzle couldn't dream of! One of the many things I like about Dyson - they don't just launch new machines, they have incredible attention to detail when it comes to things like the dusting tools, etc.

Rob - I agree, I love the thought that goes into the smaller details, like the tools. I think the click-fit fixing is such a great advancement on the older friction-fit style. I'll go into a little more detail about the evolution of the Dyson upholstery nozzle in a minute...

Patrick - the DC22 is known as 'The Dyson Baby' in the UK. I like the name - reminds me of 'The Hoover Baby' models!! Our DC22s come in 2 versions; 'Allergy' (like mine), and 'Animal' - silver cyclone manifold, and the large and small turbine heads. We don't have a Motorhead version, sadly. I'm going to buy the large turbine head for my DC22 when my funds have recovered a little!

Here's a pic of me with my new Baby for size comparison.


Post# 82951 , Reply# 17   10/24/2009 at 16:44 (5,269 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

...and with the hose/wand and FlatOut head removed...

Post# 82952 , Reply# 18   10/24/2009 at 16:48 (5,269 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

...and set up for use!

Post# 82953 , Reply# 19   10/24/2009 at 16:59 (5,269 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
After the first test-run!

I vacuumed a few of the rooms upstairs, and this is what I picked up. You can see the different types of dirt quite clearly:

1) Bulky debris thrown out by the outer cyclone - the shroud makes sure it stays in the bin
2) Very fine dust, caught by the Root Cyclones
3) Sand and grit particles, caught by the Core Separator


Post# 82954 , Reply# 20   10/24/2009 at 17:21 (5,269 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
The Dyson Upholstery Nozzle

The nozzle is split into two suction channels; an ordinary channel is placed at the rear of the nozzle, while an open-fronted one is placed at the leading edge. This design means that the nozzle won't 'snowplow' larger debris along the surface.

It also offers an additional benefit: as we know, it's airflow which actually carries the dirt into the cleaner. The Dyson design means a high volume of air is always travelling through the nozzle, regardless of the surface you're cleaning. And it won't feel like it's 'glued down' when you're cleaning thick fabrics, either!


Post# 82955 , Reply# 21   10/24/2009 at 17:50 (5,269 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
concentrated technology

Jack,
I noticed that the Dyson uprights say "certified ashma and allergy friendly". Why don't the canisters qualify for this rating?
What interests me about the Dyson machines is that EVERYTHING you touch is designed and thought out. I noticed ALL the dusting tools say Dyson and each is labeled where it goes on the machine. Details.details,details.Love it!
Are the new digital motors quieter than the regular Dyson canister? For me it's not just the noise level but the pitch of the motor.
I really love how that hose follows the user at the top and is never in your way. Quite a machine. I like it almost as much as my Electrolux Oxygen3. You really have to use the machine to appreciate how easy it is to use and that SUCTION!


Post# 82957 , Reply# 22   10/24/2009 at 19:14 (5,269 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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I just saw a commercial on Canadian TV, similar to the one above about the 3 separator sections, that shows both sizes - the DC22 and then smaller DC23. (?) They looked identical other than the size.

Dave


Post# 82964 , Reply# 23   10/24/2009 at 21:48 (5,269 days old) by luxg ()        

Thanks Jack for the information! I think the "Baby" would be a fun little machine to have. Amazing what that thing picked up!!
Terry


Post# 82968 , Reply# 24   10/25/2009 at 02:53 (5,269 days old) by swingette ()        

Who needs Carol Merrill?

Post# 82969 , Reply# 25   10/25/2009 at 05:21 (5,269 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Concentrated Technology

I did a airflow/suction test by accident last evening. I had emptied my Dyson bin and then got another machine out with a clean bag and was using the dusting brush to dust the inside of the Dyson's cone(like to keep a new machine nice). Within a few swipes the other canister stopped picking up the fine dust from the Dyson cone. The other canister still had POWERFUL SUCTION at the hose but it had lost all of it's AIR FLOW. The dusting brush was just moving the dust around the cone. The Dyson still had full suction and air flow with the dirt in the bin and on the cones but the other machine with the bag lost almost all if it's ability to move the dirt even though it still had lots of suction at the hose. Shows how customers can be using an upright and it still be "fluffing" the nap and picking up threads but not really cleaning the rug. This was a very revealing test by accident. Now I could see why some of the vacs that have better air flow like the Compact,Filter Queen,Air-Way,Rainbow would still be picking up dirt after other cleaners had stopped. I had always noticed that my Kirby Legend seemed to pick up dirt quicker than most of my other uprights even when the bag had more dirt. It must by design some have a better air flow. Learn something every day.

Post# 83011 , Reply# 26   10/25/2009 at 14:45 (5,268 days old) by imacmacdaddy ()        

In regards to the image of the debris inside the clear bin, I must note that areas labeled as 2 and 3 are both part of the Core Separator, and the almost clean portion of the bottom rubber gasket (below the red 2) is what is inside the Root Cyclone chamber. As with my DC22, I noticed that the Core Separator filters out almost all of the dust/sand out of the airstream. Hardly any dust particles makes it past the C.S. and into the Root Cyclone chamber.

Post# 83015 , Reply# 27   10/25/2009 at 15:37 (5,268 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

imacmacdaddy: You're absolutely right, sorry for the confusion!

Shows what happens when you have 4 projects on the go, when you should really be in bed!!


Post# 83016 , Reply# 28   10/25/2009 at 15:58 (5,268 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

FlatOut head under a wardrobe...

Post# 83017 , Reply# 29   10/25/2009 at 15:59 (5,268 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

FlatOut head under the washing machine...

Post# 83024 , Reply# 30   10/25/2009 at 18:38 (5,268 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Jack......

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don't you find the telescopic wand a bit bulky? Your pics show that bowl-shaped fixture on the lower end of the wand which could get in the way of sneaking the tube between a refrigerator and a wall.

At least with the non-Motorhead Dyson canisters, you can remove the hose from the bulky wand to attach it directly to the cleaning tools. With the Motorheads, you are forced to use the entire bulky telescopic wand in collapsed mode to even dust little books on a shelf, or the dashboard in your car.

I think that Dyson could do a better job of streamling their canister wands so that you could sneak them into tighter spaces, no?

Just my two watts worth......


Post# 83054 , Reply# 31   10/26/2009 at 11:56 (5,267 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Ok Jack! You got me! I just had to order one of those "flatout" Dyson rug tools. Very very interesting design.
I picked a new booklet at the store today and was reading about Dyson.
It says:
(1) Dyson has over 450 engineers
(2) over 820 patents on the Root Cyclone Technology
(3) air spins at over 500 times the force of gravity
(4) air spins at over 100,000 times the force of gravity in the multiple upper cyclones

No wonder if looks different from our old tired dusty vacs


Post# 83121 , Reply# 32   10/27/2009 at 04:02 (5,267 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Brian - someone FINALLY asking me what I DON'T like about a Dyson design; how refreshing!

I totally agree about the wands; the T2 setup is much more practical and user-friendly. Also, I wish the wand was slightly longer: I'm only 5ft10, and I find myself stooping slightly to use it. I, personally, could not use this cleaner as a 'daily driver' for this reason.

I agree, too, about the Motorhead wands. Dyson's first Motorhead canister, the DC05, actually had a much better design in that respect; the wand handle could be separated from the main wand. It would be great if they'd just reissue that, but make the electronics in the handle a little more reliable!

Rob - damn, and I'm not even on comission! I think you'll like the FlatOut head; it's incredibly versatile, and goes places no other cleaner head could!

Dyson also have their own microbiology lab, and a multi-million pound destruction-test facility. Hence, they have the lowest return-rate of any vacuum cleaner manufacturer in the US!





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Post# 83128 , Reply# 33   10/27/2009 at 08:29 (5,267 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Development of the Dyson DC15.

182 patents and patent applications - one for each week of it's development!

Post# 83140 , Reply# 34   10/27/2009 at 16:58 (5,266 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Three delightful videos, Jack. All those tough little plastic machines being abused & tormented by the big 'mindless' relentless bully ones. Reminds me of the scenes in Star Wars 1 when R2-D2 and C3-PO get snatched up by the Salvage Truck, or the alien philanthropic robots in Batteries Not Included, Johnny5 in Short Circuit, etc etc.

And yet Dyson is mimicking exactly what a vacuum and its components can expect to go through in years of use. Too bad for Miele they didn't do the same with the S7 hose, eh?

Dave


Post# 83156 , Reply# 35   10/27/2009 at 19:50 (5,266 days old) by shanonabc ()        

My thoughts exactly Dave :)

It is quite a shame though :(


Post# 83175 , Reply# 36   10/28/2009 at 00:16 (5,266 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)        
Jack...

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The wands on the DC22 aren't long enough for me to use comfortably. I'm 6'3", and this machine is better suited for someone who isn't as tall. But, I'm determined to impress you with my Dyson collection. I decided to add this one tonight.

Post# 83177 , Reply# 37   10/28/2009 at 02:33 (5,266 days old) by shanonabc ()        

Im sure you will have fun with the DC31MH Patrick :)

I love mine! It is used (and abused) so frequently!


Post# 83180 , Reply# 38   10/28/2009 at 09:15 (5,266 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)        

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The DC31 is amazing! It's what the DC16 should have been. On that note, Jack, has Dyson fixed the battery issue with the DC16? If I buy a new battery for it, will that solve the early and repeated shut-offs?

Post# 83182 , Reply# 39   10/28/2009 at 12:22 (5,265 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Concentrated Technology

Patrick,
How is the noise level for the new digital motor?
Rob


Post# 83205 , Reply# 40   10/29/2009 at 10:59 (5,264 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)        
DC31 motor

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I haven't compared them directly next to each other. The 31 is maybe a little quieter but not a lot. On high speed, the 31 has a LOT of suction for a little handheld.

Post# 83224 , Reply# 41   10/29/2009 at 20:39 (5,264 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Jack.....as much as I dislike bagless vacs....

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you'll be glad to know that your beloved Dyson company is doing very well in the "Reliability" ratings of North America's Consumer Reports magazine. Consumer Reports gets their "reliability" ratings for products by sending questionnaires to their membership/subscribers. The question set is usually in the form of: "Have you bought a new vacuum in the past 12 months? What brand is it? Have you ever had to submit this product for a repair in the first 12 months of use?" In both the upright and canister categories, Dyson's North American products are rated very reliable compared to other brands. If I remember correctly, the only manufacturer that ranks better in reliable uprights is Kirby!

Post# 83238 , Reply# 42   10/30/2009 at 07:39 (5,264 days old) by dial-a-nap (Omaha - the home of the TV Dinner)        

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Stop this thread immediately!!

Jack, you should change your screen name to DysonTempter - I caught myself thinking of where to stop and see these canisters today...

(and I know you want to as well, Terry, you can't fool me ;-)

STOP!!


Post# 83241 , Reply# 43   10/30/2009 at 09:00 (5,264 days old) by sleepdoc (St. Louis, MO)        

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Jack, it's true. I really want a DC28 now, too. And, I sure don't need one.


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