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Thread Number: 694
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| Post# 6863 , Reply# 1 12/30/2006 at 21:53 (6,325 days old) by robgwisdala () | ||
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Kirby hands down! | ||
| Post# 6866 , Reply# 3 12/30/2006 at 22:12 (6,325 days old) by convertible68 () | ||
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This will be settled in Omaha... | ||
| Post# 6873 , Reply# 4 12/30/2006 at 23:20 (6,325 days old) by swingette () | ||
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kirby or dyson depends. dc07? single-row kirby agitator? | ||
| Post# 6877 , Reply# 5 12/31/2006 at 00:00 (6,325 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany) | ||
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Just a note... Watch where new threads/topics are being started.... this one probably belings in the "contemporary" forum... ~Fred | ||
| Post# 6878 , Reply# 6 12/31/2006 at 00:25 (6,325 days old) by compactc9 () | ||
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Yes, I would agree. And I also say that the Kirby is the easy winner here. | ||
Post# 6879 , Reply# 7 12/31/2006 at 00:37 (6,325 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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From what I have tried-KIRBY!!!I have two Dysons-one of them came from a Kirby dealer-was a trade in to a Kirby.I feel Kirby's greater airflow and more powerful roller brush are the clinchers here. | ||
| Post# 6891 , Reply# 8 12/31/2006 at 06:18 (6,324 days old) by vacuumboy105 () | ||
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Dyson and kirby Its a dc07 animal and a 3 line brush bar | ||
| Post# 6897 , Reply# 9 12/31/2006 at 11:23 (6,324 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
Kirby Kirby Kirby!!! | ||
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Post# 6938 , Reply# 10 12/31/2006 at 16:24 (6,324 days old) by myvacsrock (USA) |
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KIRBY!!!! | ||
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Post# 6951 , Reply# 12 12/31/2006 at 18:43 (6,324 days old) by myvacsrock (USA) |
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all he asked was your opinion! | ||
| Post# 6957 , Reply# 14 12/31/2006 at 20:15 (6,324 days old) by convertible68 () | ||
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OH the irony... | ||
| Post# 6958 , Reply# 15 12/31/2006 at 21:07 (6,324 days old) by vacuumkid3 () | ||
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Irony of what? | ||
| Post# 6959 , Reply# 16 12/31/2006 at 21:12 (6,324 days old) by ian88 () | ||
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Notice how this thread becomes more heated because of the posts that say it shouldn't become heated ;) Ian | ||
| Post# 6965 , Reply# 17 12/31/2006 at 22:23 (6,324 days old) by vacuumkid3 () | ||
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HEY! I wasn't trying to be rude... | ||
| Post# 6969 , Reply# 19 12/31/2006 at 23:30 (6,324 days old) by robgwisdala () | ||
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Kirby with a double brush brushroll aka QuadraSweep brushroll and converted to micro filtration paper bags. In my opinion, That setup will clean very well and leak practically no dust! | ||
| Post# 6976 , Reply# 20 12/31/2069 at 18:00 (19,838 days old) by vacuumkid3 () | ||
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Yeah, I am not sure just how effective the old Kirby's are, but the new Kirby's are very good! And they last longer! Well...enough of me arguing. It is just my opinion! :-) | ||
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Post# 7001 , Reply# 25 1/1/2007 at 13:32 (6,323 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs) |
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To Austin
Austin – your comments are fascinating to me in that they contain so much contradiction and irony themselves. First, you advocate for keeping “children” off the forum. It is interesting to me that you got your first exposure to the appliance and vacuum folks through AutomaticWasher.org. You even list it as your favorite Internet site. That is very interesting given the fact that it is a completely open and democratic forum. I am not sure how old you were when you first started to visit that site, but you were pretty young (being just 18 now.) Isn’t that where you met some nice people and learned a lot about washers, appliances (and dare I say it vacuums in Omaha in 2004?) Why would you want to deprive the same thing for young folks with an interest in vacuums? This should be a place where people come to learn and meet other people with the same interests. You did it at AW.org didn’t you? Being a new member to the club, I should probably bring you up to speed with respect to why this website is open. We sent out a survey on many topics related to the club before the St. Louis convention. The resounding majority stated that they preferred an open forum. It engenders interest in the hobby and attracts new people. We are almost at 200 registered users with people from all over the world visiting. This was followed up by a vote in person at the last convention where it was voted to keep the forum open. There was some interest in having a members-only section, but no funds to get the code written. I am sure it will be discussed at the next convention, but the question will be “how to pay for it?” This club doesn’t have limitless resources, so if you are going to suggest a members-only section, be prepared to suggest how to pay for it. Finally, before making sweeping generalizations regarding “unfairly” banning people from the forum, I would suggest that you get both sides of the story. It is clear to me that you are hearing one side, but never asked me or anyone I know about what the facts of the situation were. A sign of maturity is getting all the facts before you attack. Fred | ||
| Post# 7002 , Reply# 26 1/1/2007 at 13:38 (6,323 days old) by myhooverco () | ||
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Fred...well said...thank you. --Tom | ||
| Post# 7005 , Reply# 27 1/1/2007 at 14:04 (6,323 days old) by vacuumkid3 () | ||
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Thanks! I am glad you support youngsters at this website. I really like to learn about vacuums here. I hope it will stay this way! | ||
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Post# 7009 , Reply# 28 1/1/2007 at 14:18 (6,323 days old) by kirbyultimateg (Troy Ohio 45373 USA) |
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You are right David Watters! | ||
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Post# 7014 , Reply# 31 1/1/2007 at 16:10 (6,323 days old) by vinvac (Dubuque IA) |
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Good Points All!!!
Fred, Fr. Bruce and Retromom, Thank You... Your words of wisdom and insight are greatly appreciated. As president of this club it is my job to make sure this club continues to grow and prosper. The year 2007 is now upon us and I would like to see this club hit 200 members by years end. This is only possible if we can all be respectful of each other so that others reading this forum will find it a place they would like to share. Preserving the history of the vacuum cleaner is what we are all about. Some of us are getting older and it is time we pass our knowledge on to the younger members of this group. How else will they ever know what the first model Hoover, Kirby, Electrolux, ect. were, how they came to be, how many were produced... well I think you get the picture. Fred, you were 100% correct, we can start a members only section but only with the help of club members. Our dues currently go for the newsletter and misc. expenses the club encounters through out the year. We have asked this year for members along with their membership dues to contribute to the web site so additional upkeep and possibly a members only section can be accomplished. We have had a good response so far and as soon as I know a total dollar amount it will be in the next newsletter. Retromom, I hope those reading will take to heart your 4 points. Good advice not only for the younger members but for all reading this forum. Fr. Bruce, your insight to the growth of this club and where we want to head in the future is greatly appreciated. You stated some very good facts. The membership of this club through a survey and an official vote, decided this site should and will be open to the public. Also, the membership voted to let younger members join this club and be a part of who we are. Finally, we can not let the feelings of one or two members rule this club. The membership as a whole have made plans to move this club forward and we will do just that. May the year 2007 bring us more knowledge, members, and most importantly vacuums we want to see saved as a part of our history. Your President Morgan | ||
| Post# 7027 , Reply# 32 1/1/2007 at 18:44 (6,323 days old) by vacuumboy105 () | ||
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Thanks Fred Hey thanks. For me I was asking a opinion not a full thread of people saying younge people like us should not be allowed on her. Thanks very much and I hope I dont have to read anything so mean again. | ||
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Post# 7124 , Reply# 36 1/2/2007 at 22:20 (6,322 days old) by air-waycharlie (USA) |
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I have tried to point out how change is painful but always beneficial in the long run. In the brief 5, (or is it 6), years that I have been a member, I became a President, then a Board Member and now the Vice President. Has it ever remained the same? Never. Each year was different with new members, new ideas, and new challenges. Have we benefitted? You bet! For the "old guard", (and I border on the edge of that in many ways), the changes are uncomfortable because we emerge as something different each time. Kind of like the worm to the butterfly thing. This club will always be about people and their interest in vintage vacuums. There will be conflicts in personalities, likes, dislikes and opinions. Some will be offended by being challenged in their knowledge and even being proved wrong. Welcome to the ebb and flow of life and a club. I take pride in sending in my measley $35.00 to support a club that SUPPORTS me! I thought I was alone until Dr. Charles Quarles, an airline enthusiast, gave me the number to Tom Gasko, the President at the time. I called him, had quite a conversation and the rest is history. Through this club, I have found a family of dear friends that I count my blessings for. Instead of focusing on on all the things right or wrong with a vacuum cleaner, I have chosen to focus on all that this club has given me.........namely a group of people that I can share my passion with and not feel like an outsider from the rest of the world. On a day that I watched one of our President's laid to rest that I respected and admired , (no hate mail or criticisms, please....I have a right to my own feelings), I am thankful that we have the freedom to have a site like this and can express our interest in our hobby. Why anyone would want to make this a negative, hurtful, name calling, petty and source of shame/envy is beyond me. Could we all just try to make 2007 on Vacuumland a place of comradery or is this just asking too much? I ask you, is it worth the fight or worth the effort? Charlie W. aka Helen Lawson, your VP | ||
| Post# 7126 , Reply# 37 1/2/2007 at 22:35 (6,322 days old) by vacuumkid3 () | ||
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YAY! A good New Year's resolution! I second this movement! Oh, and what is this Helen Lawson about? Am I too young to understand? PLEASE say "no!" Inside joke, maybe? ~~K~~ | ||
| Post# 7133 , Reply# 40 1/2/2007 at 23:11 (6,322 days old) by vacuumkid3 () | ||
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P.S. Is it fair to kick us children out just because of our age? | ||
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Post# 7135 , Reply# 42 1/2/2007 at 23:25 (6,322 days old) by air-waycharlie (USA) |
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Derreck, Thanks for you very heartfelt and honest post. I have to tell you that I did not make a large financial post to have the club website started. I'm not even sure if I made a donation other than $15 when I renewed my membership! It seems that many members and posters do not know some very valuable information. Last year, the club did a survey of the members. As you well know, many members elect not to post but, "sit by the sidelines" and watch what goes on. They are just not comfortable posting for whatever reasons. In this survey, of which over 70% of the paid membership participated, they expressed their desire to have an open forum. In any club, the Board and ruling body answer to their members, not the other way around. So, when the members told us that they wanted a new web site that was open, that is what we, the current Board provided them with-----after all, it is their money and we answer to them as their elected leaders. Ideally, things are not as I, personally would like them. But, accepting the postition to which I was elected, must, as an adult, answer to the dues paying members. I don't think Fred or Morgan are doing anything other than what they have been elected to do. I would challenge anyone that is unhappy or disappointed to ask for a recall of the election of Morgan as President or as Fred as Webmaster. We all have things in life that may be considered, "childish", if looked at later in life or from a different prospective. Fred took on the role of webmaster as a gift to the club. Does he benefit from it financially? No. And, please ask Charles Lester if he found it a piece of cake, because he will probably say no and was glad to pass the mantle, although I do not speak for him. Has Tom done wonders for this club? ABSOLUTELY! And no one is arguing that point. I have thanked him many times over here and personally for all he has done to help me in my quest to become a better member and vacuum collector. I want to personally thank Tom for all the ads he has provided for the picture of day. I was there when he gave Fred Nelson the briefcase of those ads only last November. I'm not even sure what has happened with all the parties between that time and now. The only thing I am sure of is that this forum is going to be open until the funds can be raised to create a members only area. I too, want to see that. I think many regular posters here want to see that as well, so I would encourge them them to support the change by making a contribution to the costs that will make that available. On a closing note, Fred Nelson has NEVER received a penny for his efforts. Liked or not liked, I know for a fact he has contributed more dollars, and more importantly time, (as many of this current Board has done as well), for his efforts. He and Tom have had a great relationship in the past and Fred has purchased many vacuums from Tom that are valued in his collection. Both have had a win-win friendship with these transactions. Lastly, THIS A PLACE PLACE FOR CLUB MEMBERS TO MEET. I met you at Fred's house only just over a month ago and was charmed by your knowledge, willingness to share and also our shared interest and work history in the airline industry. So, I ask you, please re-think you position on the VCCC and what it ultimately can offer you not only with vacuum fun and history, but with friendship which really is the best gift. Charlie | ||
| Post# 7136 , Reply# 43 1/2/2007 at 23:36 (6,322 days old) by swingette () | ||
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... its worth noting that the word *Dyson* in a thread guarantees trouble! criticize Dysons cleaning ability or build quality and its rotten tomatoes! | ||
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Post# 7140 , Reply# 47 1/2/2007 at 23:59 (6,322 days old) by air-waycharlie (USA) |
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Derreck, Thanks for your rapid response and YES, I would love to have the manual and brochure. Please let me know how I can help you to expidiate these on their way to me! Just for the record, I do not want to discourage any youths/youngsters from their interest in vintage or newer vaccums by what I am about to post. Younger folks, please understand that I am from a different era and will turn 56 this month so this computer "stuff" is still totally new to me on many levels. I want to reiterate, that in Chicago 2004, at the convention, I had strong feelings about minors joining and what their level of involvement should be. The emcumbent President had totally different feelings. The membership present voted and we are where we are today. Perhaps things will change in Omaha based on the data we now have. Re: Tom being reinstated to post........that is a matter for the Board and Webmaster to discuss and I will bring it to their attention if they have not read it here. I make no promises or guarantees. This is a two way street. | ||
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