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Post# 76573   7/27/2009 at 11:13 (5,385 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        

hi folks
after finally getting some info and pics on the Trident! i am trying to identify a lux cylinder that my neighbour had. The family moved in next door to us and i immediately got friends with the 2 daughters 1 abit older 1 a bit younger than me. They used to keep playing "long haired lover from liverpool" on their Dansette which was high in the charts at the time ... to give some idea of the year.... havent looked it up but 1972 ish? Anyway while round there i immediately sussed out the family vac, of course which was an Electrolux cylinder... i dont think it was the z80 because it had a white "seesaw" switch going across not longways as opposed to the z80/Trident foot press. the switch had grooves across each side. It seemed to be a more sky blue than the 80. They didnt seem to look after stuff and it was a bit battered the handle was missing and it used to be carried upstairs by the hose ( very much the same hose as the blue Trident) and there seemed to be just a hole with no filter. The cord (grey) plugged in under the exhaust in the usual z30-onwards style with its 2 diagonal flat pins and it had a long hose handle (dont remember a suction valve think it was just plain) a single extension tube and white flipover floor tool with white plastic lux crevice. white end caps, and thats all i remember. Again the once it was brought round for my dad to fix and he did and tested it with our z55 cord. im sure it had the z80 style lux logo on... Anyone recognise the model?
Si


Post# 76574 , Reply# 1   7/27/2009 at 11:45 (5,385 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Z64

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Is It this one in a different colour??

Post# 76575 , Reply# 2   7/27/2009 at 11:47 (5,385 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Or

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the Elusive Z77??

Post# 76582 , Reply# 3   7/27/2009 at 12:59 (5,384 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
cheers Mike

i think the 77 i think the 2 remaining bits of the broken handle seemed to be on the side ... did this have the same switch as the above one? and sky blue vinyl?

Post# 76632 , Reply# 4   7/27/2009 at 23:51 (5,384 days old) by joe22 ()        

fyi on the bbc tv show good neighbours, or in the uk the good life, snobby next door neighbor margo had a 77 in blue. she got mad cus it kept whistling at her when she used it !!! thats the bag empty signal.

Post# 76640 , Reply# 5   7/28/2009 at 04:15 (5,384 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
good life

i remember the good life but not the z77 will have to get some footage cheers Joe

Post# 76664 , Reply# 6   7/28/2009 at 15:09 (5,383 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        

Joe / Si,

It was a UK luxomatic ZC90 and the embossed white acrylic lettering on the side of the machine had been taped over.

Margo had trundled it into the Goods' kitchen in a two wheeled round basket type of shopping trolley / trug.

Mike, Do you remember what wattage was for the Z77 ?

I seem to remember it was around 375 which was much the same as the Z64 which I pressume it superseded ?

I seem to remember a neighbour collecting 'Embassy coupons' for one and was rather disappointed with the suction, shame she smoked herself like a laboratory beagle for it !!!!!!

Regards, Acid Tongued of Newport, Shropshire,UK.


Post# 76687 , Reply# 7   7/28/2009 at 18:27 (5,383 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
Hi Walter

yes mate i remember our neighbours z77 and im sure that was the one now thanks to Mike, seemed to be very basic maybe it was a cheaper model at the time, i said i didnt think there was a filter didnt i? the manual says its behind the dust bag. and cloth bag only, by 1967 the paper insert kit was well underway with other lux cylinders, no sprayer or hose handle suction control, and just basic tools, mind i do like it!

Post# 77971 , Reply# 8   8/10/2009 at 17:44 (5,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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Here it is, in all its glory. Although the budget model, I think it stil looks good

Al


Post# 77973 , Reply# 9   8/10/2009 at 17:51 (5,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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As the budget model, it did not have the plastic handgrip of the more expensive models. It was rated at 400watts - same as the first (more expensive) 80. I know the 80 was later uprated to 550 watts, but cannot say the same about the 77. It was also the first UK lux to use a flip over nozzle, as also the first one to use this type, which carried on for years. I know, a flip over thread picker was common right back to the 1920s, but this was the first, complete flip over

Post# 77975 , Reply# 10   8/10/2009 at 17:53 (5,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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But it was really just a cosmetic update from the earlier 64, slighly higher power (400 vs 375 watts) - both lovely quiet motors

Post# 77977 , Reply# 11   8/10/2009 at 17:54 (5,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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Top view .....

Post# 77978 , Reply# 12   8/10/2009 at 17:57 (5,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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And front view

The gliders on the 77 are angled, hence it seems higher than the 64, where they are flat. No rollers in either case though


Post# 77979 , Reply# 13   8/10/2009 at 17:59 (5,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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When I have the chance I will get the tools for the 64 out as well, for they are unusual too ....

Al


Post# 78038 , Reply# 14   8/11/2009 at 03:16 (5,370 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
thanks Al

yes mate, the blue one is definately the one our neighbour had! however im sure their switch was white rather than blue but thats just a small thing. Thanks so much for posting this
Si


Post# 78040 , Reply# 15   8/11/2009 at 04:11 (5,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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Actually, my recollection was that the switch was blue, as with mine - it also matches the trim around the end covers. However, it is perfectly possible that it was replaced at some time through wear or that Lux simply changed the colour at some point, as they often made minor changes throughout a model's life. I was surprised that the switch on the 64 was blue as well though, so that may have been changed during its life.
Al


Post# 78049 , Reply# 16   8/11/2009 at 06:07 (5,370 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Electrolux

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Hi Al, great examples you have, love those colours, was the light blue only used on this machine?? I`m trying to think of another vac it was used on??



Post# 78096 , Reply# 17   8/11/2009 at 18:34 (5,369 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
Hi Al

so impressive mate, dont suppose i could be cheeky and ask for a couple of shots of the underside and exhaust/cord connection could i? dont worry if not! am a bit excited havent seen sight of this machine since c1975, or the trident! its like a trip down my childhood street!

Post# 78098 , Reply# 18   8/11/2009 at 18:44 (5,369 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
hanging bracket

one of the reasons i wanted to see the underside was to see if it had the hanging bracket like other luxes? As for the switch it was probably replaced
Si


Post# 78382 , Reply# 19   8/14/2009 at 01:08 (5,367 days old) by joe22 ()        

awesome plastic (?) flip tool

Post# 78385 , Reply# 20   8/14/2009 at 02:49 (5,367 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
hanging around

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Certainly can do some pictures for you. The rear of the 77 is identical to the 64, and yes both have hanging brackets. In fact, externally both machines appear to me to be identical, aside from the colour scheme, the handle and the gliders. Actually it does not sound like there is much left to be identical LOLOL

Interestingly the rating plate for both these machines is at the front end up by the hanging bracket, whilst as far as I am aware mots other models have it towards the back.

Like the other budget models (48/60/87) they are Electrux on the rating plate rather than Electrolux, although of course the cleaners bear the full name.

Al


Post# 78390 , Reply# 21   8/14/2009 at 10:19 (5,367 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
cheers Al

cheers mate for that. I Did see a 64 once in a 2nd hand shop but was on the bus at the time passing through and didnt have chance to get back and get it. You know whats coming next! i would like to see a Challenge in the 64 style. As you know i have a z65 Challenge i found it on a skip and run it as the house vac for about 10 years but never knew until i saw thi literature that they had done a 64 challenge.... anyone got one?..... by the way ny Nan had the z48 ... 1951-1978
Si


Post# 78395 , Reply# 22   8/14/2009 at 11:58 (5,367 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Miss Picky strikes again ....

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1951-1978????????????????

Sorry, could not resist that at all :) It was 1951 to 1956, when it was replaced by the virtually identical 60. I have a 60, but no tools although they appear to have been similar to the 55 tools. i have a 48 manual scanned if you are interesed.

The 64 is rare (can only recall seeing two in 8 years of ebaying, and I bought one of them) a Challenge 64 even more rare - you are very lucky to have the Challenge 65.

I also have the predecessor model to the 48, the 116. This holds a special place in my collection as it was the first cleaner I ever collected - thats rare too ...
Al


Post# 78396 , Reply# 23   8/14/2009 at 12:03 (5,367 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Skippy

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It great when you can get somthing out of a skip thats both in good order and runs well. My second collected cleaner was a Junior 119 left out for the bin men. In fair condition and still ith moulded plug, it stil runs well. All it needed was a replacement bag, which it now has - an original 119 bag. My most recent "find" was a grey hardbag Turbomaster chucked out by the office next to mine when they were closing down - harly a mark on it and running well too. Maybe I am just plain mean ......
Al


Post# 78403 , Reply# 24   8/14/2009 at 14:21 (5,366 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Still hanging around

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Here's the pic


Post# 78422 , Reply# 25   8/14/2009 at 20:37 (5,366 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
hey Miss Picky

I meant that my Nan bought her z48 in 1951 AND RAN IT TILL 1978!!!!!
but thank you for the info and shots of the undersides
yes it was great finding the challenge in the skip it only had the hose and 3 inch of cord on it and a bag rammed full of dog hair i was with a mate in his car and we passed it i soon got into my car and went back ang got it! washed the bag and filter cleaned it up got it smelling nice , made it a set of tools up and used it as my main vac for ten or so years... love it to this day!!!


Post# 78423 , Reply# 26   8/14/2009 at 20:40 (5,366 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
48 manual

Al i would love to see the 48 manual and some pics of your 116!
i am absolutely loving these lux threads!
Si


Post# 78430 , Reply# 27   8/15/2009 at 00:55 (5,366 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Lux 116

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This is the only photo I have of of it, I will have to take some more soon. Although it is not clear on the photo it has a toggle switch, the only time I have seen one on an electrolux, apart from a model XI, the rest have been "sliding bar" or push button
Al


Post# 78431 , Reply# 28   8/15/2009 at 02:12 (5,366 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
My most recent "find" was a grey hardbag Turbomast

Hey Al

Rearrange these words...

Git Jammy ;)

LOL!

Seamus


Post# 78484 , Reply# 29   8/15/2009 at 22:07 (5,365 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hey Al:

WOW!!! I love the look of the 77. Could you post the rest of the 64 manual?

Doug


Post# 78569 , Reply# 30   8/16/2009 at 17:22 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
With Pleasure

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Mike has already posted the front page, here is page 2

Post# 78571 , Reply# 31   8/16/2009 at 17:23 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Page 2b

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here we go

Post# 78573 , Reply# 32   8/16/2009 at 17:24 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Page 3a

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Sorry the quality is not btter

Post# 78574 , Reply# 33   8/16/2009 at 17:25 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
The Hard Floor tool

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is like the plastic one on the late Lux 55, only in cream

Post# 78576 , Reply# 34   8/16/2009 at 17:26 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Final page

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more to come ....

Post# 78579 , Reply# 35   8/16/2009 at 17:28 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Sorry,

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This is the front cover. i cannot imagine cleaning in THOSE heels!

Post# 78588 , Reply# 36   8/16/2009 at 17:49 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Here is the Lux 80

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Front Cover

Post# 78590 , Reply# 37   8/16/2009 at 17:50 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Page 2a

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Its a very wide fold out sheet

Post# 78591 , Reply# 38   8/16/2009 at 17:50 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Page 2b

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You need to join it to 2a

Post# 78592 , Reply# 39   8/16/2009 at 17:51 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
page 3a

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Perhaps the most elegant colour scheme

Post# 78594 , Reply# 40   8/16/2009 at 17:52 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Page 3b

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Despite the shading, the butterfly brush was white

Post# 78595 , Reply# 41   8/16/2009 at 17:54 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Page 4a

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Note the classic Lux pose, I still use cannisters in this way

Post# 78597 , Reply# 42   8/16/2009 at 17:55 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Page 4b

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Note the rear grill, same as Trident, but all in white

Post# 78598 , Reply# 43   8/16/2009 at 17:56 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Rear Cover

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The first 80s were 400 watt, later 550. Hanging them up like that did the hose no good at all .....

Post# 78601 , Reply# 44   8/16/2009 at 18:00 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Another classic

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In its time, the Lux 90 took UK cannister cleaning to a new luxery level

Post# 78603 , Reply# 45   8/16/2009 at 18:01 (5,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Its successor

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My mum had one of these

Post# 78604 , Reply# 46   8/16/2009 at 18:03 (5,364 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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All of those Luxes are the best looking machines I've ever seen. The updated tools are really neat too.

Post# 78611 , Reply# 47   8/16/2009 at 18:43 (5,364 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
64 manual

of course Mike already posted the 64 manual! sorry guys ive been pretty tired lately! dont know where my heads been!!
great postings anyway all of them!!
Si


Post# 79108 , Reply# 48   8/22/2009 at 16:35 (5,358 days old) by z30soulbrother (West Midlands, UK)        
64 tubes

did the 64 have plastic tubes they look like it in the manual and it does state lightweight tools

Post# 79134 , Reply# 49   8/23/2009 at 04:09 (5,358 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
64 Tubes and Tools

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Yes, the wands were plastic, as was the hose handle. As far as I am aware this was the first, and for a long time the only, mainstream use of plastic until Hoover in the early 1980s (or was it late 70s?). I say mainstream because my sister was given a vacuum cleaner as a wedding present (1974) which was made in the, then Soviet bloc which had plastic tubes. I think it was a "Band" or something like that, it also had a stretch hose. Anyway I am digressing .....

The carpet nozzle was not seen on any other lux that I am aware of, it was not the same as the 62. The floor nozzle was not the same as the 62 either, but resembled the plastic one used on the late 55 models only in cream rather than black
Al



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