Royal 880 series help!!

Sounds like you'll need a bearing plate as well, and I'm thinking that wherever you find the armature, they will have a bearing plate as well.
As for the teardown, first remove the belt, then the motor brushes. You'll find caps on both sides of the motor that unscrew and the brushes will be behind the caps. Once you have removed the brush caps you can remove the brushes by gently pulling the springs.
Whether your model has a fixed headlight or swing-up headlight (or no headlight) will determine the next step. If you have the fixed headlight, remove the two screws that attach it to the fancase, then turn the machine over, remove the brushroll, and remove the two screws that attach the light to the nozzle.
If you have the swing-up headlight or no headlight, skip the headlight removal step and go directly to the next step, removal of the fan case and nozzle. You will find 4 screws that attach the motor housing to the fan case, remove these and the fan case and nozzle can easily be removed.
Since your armature shaft broke behind the fan, I'll skip the part about how to remove the shaft and fan. Sounds like they'll probably fall out when you remove the fan case. You'll find 3 or 4 screws on the bearing plate, and after removing these and the bearing plate the armature should easily pull out. However, if the fan and the belt shaft are in good shape you'll probably want to save and re-use them, so put the fan in a vice or hold with vice grips and turn the belt shaft CLOCKWISE to remove. Hopefully you have a big enough piece of the motor shaft behind the fan to get a hold of with vice grips, as you'll also need to turn the fan CLOCKWISE to get it off the motor shaft.
Once you have your new armature and bearing plate, make sure the armature seats well into the rear bearing, then install the bearing plate. Snug, but do not tighten the screws. Note here that there are two types of bearing plates--perma-lube and oil tube. If it is an oil-tube bearing plate, add oil until it reaches the top of the tube, then turn the shaft to make sure it turns freely, then check the tube to see if you need to add a little more oil.
Next, re-install the motor brushes (or replace if they are less that 1/4 inch long) and caps.
Now, tune up the motor. Plug it in, turn it on, and one at a time slowly turn each of the bearing screws in and out to get the highest speed (kind of like the carburetor on a lawnmower!) Once this is done, reinstall the fan, fan shaft, fan case, etc., and it's done!
Hope this helps,
Jeff


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Post# 76353 7/25/2009 at 07:46 (5,381 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)
Checkrate/Likes I have A Royal Upright, I think it is a model 882? But it looks like a model 880 except it has a gray cord instead of a blue one, anyway the armature shaft right between the fan and the cooling fan broke in two. Anyway I don't know anywhere I can find an armature for it. I would like to fix it. I like it much better then my newer everlast series Royal uprights.(dark blue one and a Burgandy one)The 880 series is so much quieter then the newer models. Can anybody help me?????I know I'm beyond help, but HELP! LOL

Post# 76368 , Reply# 1 7/25/2009 at 12:26 (5,381 days old) by louvac (A)
Checkrate/Likes Dan, Contact club member, Mike Rogers at the Henry Company at (219) 922-6262. He is a Royal guru as this sounds like more than the average repair. I am sure he can help and put your Royal back in "like new" condition. Mike is the vacuum store manager.

Post# 76370 , Reply# 2 7/25/2009 at 13:00 (5,381 days old) by a007kirbyman (--->> Originally My Mom <<--- (now Wisconsin))
Checkrate/Likes *Armature* Dan I don't know if this is correct, (I am NOT affiliated with them), but it may be, & I am sure they could verify it is right for your machine. However, here is the link if you want to check it out: www.vacuum-depot.com/detProd.aspQ... I'm strickly a Kirby guy. Hope it helps. Bill

Post# 76504 , Reply# 3 7/26/2009 at 03:43 (5,380 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)
Checkrate/Likes *Thanks for the Royal help!* I will get in touch with these people and see if they can get me an armature. Hopefully I can figure out how to get the old one out of the machine. This wouldn't have happened if I had cleaned the church with my kirby instead of the royal. But like I said I love this machine so I guess I will have to bite the bullet and get the royal fixed......

Post# 76536 , Reply# 4 7/26/2009 at 13:15 (5,380 days old) by lux1521 ()
Checkrate/Likes Just out of curiosity, what happened exactly? Snapping a shaft sounds a bit extreme. I'd like to see some pics of this.

Post# 76568 , Reply# 5 7/27/2009 at 04:14 (5,379 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)
Checkrate/Likes *Broken Royal Shaft* I don't know what caused it to break... I was vacuuming and I turned it off and when I turned it back on it made a weird noise kind of as the front bearing was shot and the fan was broke. I was using a kirby belt on it at the time (royal belts and parts are hard to come by around here) thats what happens when you live out in the boonies..... anyway I wonder if the kirby belt was to tight....

Post# 76569 , Reply# 6 7/27/2009 at 05:15 (5,379 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)
Checkrate/Likes Yes-Kirby belts are too tight for Royals-Royals have a longer motor shaft than Kirbys-but doubt the belt caused your Royals motor rotor shaft to break-you got me on that one-NEVER seen a vacuum motor or any other universal motor shaft actually break.Is therer some sort of vacuum dealer in your area that can order or get the Royal belts for you?I have used Kirby "G" series belts on my Royals in an emergency-but don't use them long.I guess you can try to get them from EBay or the vacuum cleaner suppliers that allow you to order parts from your computer?

Post# 76748 , Reply# 7 7/29/2009 at 02:38 (5,377 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)
Checkrate/Likes *Dan,* Sounds like you'll need a bearing plate as well, and I'm thinking that wherever you find the armature, they will have a bearing plate as well. As for the teardown, first remove the belt, then the motor brushes. You'll find caps on both sides of the motor that unscrew and the brushes will be behind the caps. Once you have removed the brush caps you can remove the brushes by gently pulling the springs. Whether your model has a fixed headlight or swing-up headlight (or no headlight) will determine the next step. If you have the fixed headlight, remove the two screws that attach it to the fancase, then turn the machine over, remove the brushroll, and remove the two screws that attach the light to the nozzle. If you have the swing-up headlight or no headlight, skip the headlight removal step and go directly to the next step, removal of the fan case and nozzle. You will find 4 screws that attach the motor housing to the fan case, remove these and the fan case and nozzle can easily be removed. Since your armature shaft broke behind the fan, I'll skip the part about how to remove the shaft and fan. Sounds like they'll probably fall out when you remove the fan case. You'll find 3 or 4 screws on the bearing plate, and after removing these and the bearing plate the armature should easily pull out. However, if the fan and the belt shaft are in good shape you'll probably want to save and re-use them, so put the fan in a vice or hold with vice grips and turn the belt shaft CLOCKWISE to remove. Hopefully you have a big enough piece of the motor shaft behind the fan to get a hold of with vice grips, as you'll also need to turn the fan CLOCKWISE to get it off the motor shaft. Once you have your new armature and bearing plate, make sure the armature seats well into the rear bearing, then install the bearing plate. Snug, but do not tighten the screws. Note here that there are two types of bearing plates--perma-lube and oil tube. If it is an oil-tube bearing plate, add oil until it reaches the top of the tube, then turn the shaft to make sure it turns freely, then check the tube to see if you need to add a little more oil. Next, re-install the motor brushes (or replace if they are less that 1/4 inch long) and caps. Now, tune up the motor. Plug it in, turn it on, and one at a time slowly turn each of the bearing screws in and out to get the highest speed (kind of like the carburetor on a lawnmower!) Once this is done, reinstall the fan, fan shaft, fan case, etc., and it's done! Hope this helps, Jeff