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Jack's Hoover 'Freedom' Airvolution Upright.
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Post# 73833   6/30/2009 at 20:19 (5,406 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        

Hi Jack,

I have a query about the 'Freedom' cleaner that Hoover Ltd sent you:

When you lower the complete handle from vertical, does the handle lock into the conventional Hoover operating position of 45°, thus allowing the user to raise the cleaner head off the floor for clearance of carpet fringes and threshold strips?

My mother's old Hoover Turbopower 3 is on the way out, and she likes the handle lock on the Hoover - it allows her to clear the area rug's fringes and the porch threshold strip with a simple movement.

(I miss this feature on my Dyson!)


Post# 73927 , Reply# 1   7/1/2009 at 12:19 (5,405 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Sorry, Calum, I missed this thread earlier!

The Freedom does indeed lock at each 'stage' of reclining, so you can lift up the head as you tilt it back.


Post# 73939 , Reply# 2   7/1/2009 at 14:03 (5,405 days old) by retardturtle ()        

i really have a dislike for bagless...but man i love the look of this one...really nice...hows it perform and whats its weak points/dislikes.....what you pay for it.

Post# 73957 , Reply# 3   7/1/2009 at 16:03 (5,405 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

I didn't pay a thing for mine because as Calum said, it was a gift from Hoover UK. But this model retails for as low as £155.

Weak points/dislikes as requested:

- You can tell it's not a very efficient system, because it only generates 200 airwatts, despite pulling 1800w of power. In comparison, the Dyson DC07 Origin gets 280 airwatts from 1400w of power.

- The build quality is not the best, the plastic feels cheap, and the finish is spray-on, which means the smallest scrape reveals the plastic below, and can't be repaired.

- In particular, certain components - the clips which hold the 2 sections of the bin together, the handle slot, etc. - would break if treated with the least bit of force.

- It's pretty heavy at 9kg.

- The 'Explorer Lance' is cribbed from the US Kenmore Premalite, and it's a BAD idea!

- It's not especially quiet.

- The brush-roll is NASTY, and not worthy of anything bearing the Hoover name!


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Post# 73959 , Reply# 4   7/1/2009 at 16:10 (5,405 days old) by kirbfan94 ()        

Whats so nasty about this brushroll you speak of?

Post# 73962 , Reply# 5   7/1/2009 at 16:25 (5,405 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Horrible, rough, cheap, shiny plastic bristles, no beaters...

This is actually from my 100th Anniversary Dustmanager, but they all use the same brush-roll now.


Post# 73964 , Reply# 6   7/1/2009 at 16:31 (5,405 days old) by kirbfan94 ()        

Yeah that is kinda gross...haha

Post# 73968 , Reply# 7   7/1/2009 at 16:36 (5,405 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

To be fair, Which? Magazine do actually commend the Freedom and the Slalom for their carpet-cleaning abilities...it's just...it's not how a Hoover should be! It's hard to beat the Activator brush-roll...

Post# 74021 , Reply# 8   7/1/2009 at 21:16 (5,405 days old) by retardturtle ()        
vintagehoover

thanks for the info...great detail. still love the look tho.
does the brushroll not deep clean well? too firm/soft..whats the activator brushroll look like...


Post# 74081 , Reply# 9   7/2/2009 at 02:29 (5,404 days old) by ibaisaic ()        
Hoover Activator

Howard,

You can see two examples of the activator brushroll in threads 6603 Hoover Vortex V2000 and 6619 Hoover Turbopower 2


Post# 74086 , Reply# 10   7/2/2009 at 06:43 (5,404 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
Cheers, Jack!

I don't think my mother would want a machine that is too heavy or is ultra-cheaply made (what happened to the glittery finish being embedded in the plastic? - nowadays it seems to be a sprayed on lacquer.)

Post# 74118 , Reply# 11   7/2/2009 at 12:25 (5,404 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
I checked out the Which? vacuum report

The Hoover 'Freedom' has the edge in carpet cleaning; the 'Slalom' slightly poorer.

My mum doesn't like the look of the Sebo X Series uprights; she likes the Electrolux 'Power of Red' bagless upright (eek!).

It seems to be hellishly difficult to get a machine that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, yet has a variable suction control.


Post# 74134 , Reply# 12   7/2/2009 at 14:43 (5,404 days old) by retardturtle ()        

ok now i remember...thanks ibaisaic...im sooo gonna hunt for one of those at the shop nxt saturday....im almost positive i saw one somewhere.

Post# 74136 , Reply# 13   7/2/2009 at 15:04 (5,404 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
I understand Hoover moved to China.

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Boss Hoover must be rolling over in his grave, to say nothing of Murray J. Spangler who started the Electric Suction Sweeper Co. 1n 07. (Hoover Model O.

Alex Taber


Post# 74137 , Reply# 14   7/2/2009 at 15:07 (5,404 days old) by caligula (Wallingford, Connecticut)        
What ever happened to---

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"It beats, as it sweeps, as it cleans?"

Post# 74147 , Reply# 15   7/2/2009 at 16:10 (5,404 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Hoover got beat up, swept under the carpet and had it's clock cleaned by underpaid slave labor overseas. This is what Globalization brought us... and let's not forget those 'money managers' entrusted with our tax and consumer and investment dollars.

Dave


Post# 74247 , Reply# 16   7/3/2009 at 03:00 (5,403 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)        
Rolls_rapide...

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..if she doesn't like the X series, what about the Felix?

Post# 74251 , Reply# 17   7/3/2009 at 05:01 (5,403 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
'...she likes the Electrolux 'Power of Red' bagl

It's an interesting-looking machine, but I don't know what compelled Electrolux to name a cleaner 'The Power of Red'... just makes me think of Communism! They actually held the launch in Moscow's Red Square!

The performance numbers don't add up, either; 2000w of power, to output 130 airwatts?! Even Hoover do better than that! For a mainstream, full-size upright, 130aw is just sad...

It also weighs close to 10kg...

An overall score of 43% from Which? Magazine doesn't exactly recommend it, either. A two-and-a-half star rating from Amazon.co.uk buyers couldn't be called 'glowing', either...out of 7 reviews, 4 gave it one star out of five!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK


Post# 74321 , Reply# 18   7/3/2009 at 18:55 (5,403 days old) by retardturtle ()        

that lux is a nice looking vac and at only 130aw...what a waste...i was expecting more from the lux name.

Post# 74628 , Reply# 19   7/7/2009 at 11:08 (5,399 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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That "Power Of Red" is a US Eureka Capture. I've never used one, but I like the way it looks.

Post# 74654 , Reply# 20   7/7/2009 at 18:48 (5,399 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
2000w of power, to output 130 airwatts?!

What a horrible waste of power. God only knows what made them create such an inefficient monstrosity.

I read the reviews: there is no way my mum could be bothered cleaning filters after every use!

The Hoover Airvolution 'Freedom' looks to be a better bet. However, does the 'explorer lance' form part of the suction circuit when in normal upright carpet cleaning mode?


Post# 74693 , Reply# 21   7/7/2009 at 22:24 (5,399 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

I had a capure and all I can say about it is that it was a pain in the butt to clean out. with each pass of the machine it would need to be cleaned out not just that but it has no and I mean NO air flow. all it has is just plain suction which sucks for the business for creating such an innefficent product. however the brushroll does an ok job of fluffing the nap of the carpet. I bought the capture for 10 bucks at a good will and all I can say is that in my own opinion 10 bucks is all it was worth

Post# 74725 , Reply# 22   7/8/2009 at 05:20 (5,398 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

'...does the 'explorer lance' form part of the suction circuit when in normal upright carpet cleaning mode?'

No - releasing the handle operates an automatic change-over valve, diverting suction down the hose. Wonder who they 'borrowed' that idea from?

Same goes for the Slalom, by the way. I think the Slalom is superior when it comes to using tools - it has a proper crevice tool with an angled edge.


Post# 74773 , Reply# 23   7/8/2009 at 19:07 (5,398 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
'Slalom'

Thanks for crevice tool info.

Does the 'Slalom' lock into the 45° position for hopping over rug fringes and threshold strips?

(God, it used to be so easy to shop for a vacuum cleaner!!!)


Post# 74921 , Reply# 24   7/10/2009 at 19:16 (5,396 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        

Bump

Post# 74922 , Reply# 25   7/10/2009 at 19:38 (5,396 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

No, it doesn't - wouldn't be possible with the universal joint Hoover used.

Post# 74923 , Reply# 26   7/10/2009 at 19:54 (5,396 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        

That's what I imagined - cheers Jack.

Post# 74928 , Reply# 27   7/10/2009 at 21:31 (5,396 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Video demo of the Slalom:





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