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Post# 64533   3/31/2009 at 20:35 (5,475 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        

Someone save it!

looks rare and groovy

kansascity.craigslist.org/clt/109...


Post# 64534 , Reply# 1   3/31/2009 at 20:36 (5,475 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        
more info

from another ad--->


This is a vintage Eureka Rugulator vacuum in excellent condition and working. This is when they made them to last and this one has very little use. Please see pictures.


Post# 64536 , Reply# 2   3/31/2009 at 20:40 (5,475 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Where's your link?


Post# 64538 , Reply# 3   3/31/2009 at 20:41 (5,475 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

You don't want an old fart like me having to tell you how to do it do you? I can if you really don't know how LOL

Post# 64539 , Reply# 4   3/31/2009 at 20:43 (5,475 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        
here it is. it was in the first post.

kansascity.craigslist.org/clt/109...

Post# 64540 , Reply# 5   3/31/2009 at 20:44 (5,475 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        
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Post# 64541 , Reply# 6   3/31/2009 at 20:45 (5,475 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        
another

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Post# 64542 , Reply# 7   3/31/2009 at 20:45 (5,475 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        
again

another pic

Post# 64543 , Reply# 8   3/31/2009 at 20:49 (5,475 days old) by petek (Ontario)        
Oh geeze

That's not a link, you just pasted an address. This is a link... trust it to an old fart to have to show a young guy how to work a computer right.
Now do you want me to tell you how to do it right or not.. if not then don't be so lazy and do it right the first time.
HA


CLICK HERE TO GO TO petek's LINK on Kansascity Craigslist


Post# 64544 , Reply# 9   3/31/2009 at 20:50 (5,475 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Here I thought everyone 5 years old new how to operate one of these infernal new computer thingys. LOL

Post# 64546 , Reply# 10   3/31/2009 at 20:51 (5,475 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

But it's a nice vacuum!!! nice to have.. I dunno if I'd want to pay $65 for it though

Post# 64548 , Reply# 11   3/31/2009 at 20:56 (5,475 days old) by xraytech ()        

It looks like a golden vanguard, but I don't think it is the correct bag even though it is a box top bag. I do believe that this should have a gold metallic box top bag, if it had that I would definetly pay $65 for it.

Sam


Post# 64549 , Reply# 12   3/31/2009 at 21:00 (5,475 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Yup, it's missing it's gold box top bag. Here's mine


CLICK HERE TO GO TO petek's LINK


Post# 64564 , Reply# 13   3/31/2009 at 21:54 (5,475 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        

Your right Sam and of course Pete !!! HE HEE !!
Great vac !
Norm


Post# 64599 , Reply# 14   12/31/2069 at 18:00 (19,810 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
I gotta reply...

So,

IMHO a very similar model to Pete's , but different. As we have seen thru various posts, Eureka put out ALOT of different models over the years, and while Pete, you model is similar; it's different. I will definitely put my stamp as longtime collector... that unless anyone else thinks so and has proof; It's original, and VERY much worth the 65 dollars asked. If I wasn't going to Sarnia Sunday, I'd make the trip just to have it honestly.

This has the Chrome hood and the green painted base, which in Eureka's grand scheme of things was enough to make a different model, jsut as Hoover later did with the gaggle of A, B and C line Convertibles from the 1970's and 80's..

Advertising tells me that this machine hails from the 1972-73 area, and up at my folks I have a 1973 BH&G that features this very machine with that very bag. I also am 100% it's definitely previous to my Golden Power Touch that I'm also certain hails from 1974-75 .Why I say? Because I have another BH&G advertisement from June of 1974 featuring my machine calling it "The King Of The Jungle" which refers to the readily purchased and loved shag carpets from back then.... In fact my machine is the 2083, but there was another model just like it that had a chrome hood, A "Very Special Model" if you will, that featured nothing more than the substitution of painted hood mine has. I believe the chrome hood model was the 2082.

That said, if you really look at the bag it's got a very light greenish tint to it, except the box top, which is of course white. The only thing I feel that throws me for a loop, is there is NO plastique cloisonne Electric E and EUREKA badge going vertically down one side of the bag, as many did. However looking just to my right to my golden, mine has no badge on the bag either. It hails from the same time frame as Pete's, but must again be a "Very Special Model" or a Promotional as Hoover would wont to call their machines that were slightly different from the one beside it.

Contrast all this bag questioning, that, behind me with it's new Canned ham brother is my 2089 Brandwine Cordaway Upright, which has the logo on the box top bag. So go figure....

I really do think it's original, and whoever gets it hopefully a collector should be mighty pleased...

Pete I'm really looking forward to Sunday...BUT wait??? Where was that deliche Eureka machine on my last visit??? WOW I can't wait to see that one in person....

Chad


Post# 64607 , Reply# 15   4/1/2009 at 06:53 (5,475 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Well I guess it could be so.. odd though they'd have such a non-descript bag on a TOL cleaner. As for the $65 is only that it exceeds my normal $20 ish limit. Now if in fact that is the original bag and it is a little greener in real life than it looks and so make the vac look better then I would probably spring for it. The base looks pretty scar free.

Post# 64617 , Reply# 16   4/1/2009 at 10:16 (5,475 days old) by xraytech ()        

Chad,

Thanks for clearing that up. I really thought that it had a gold base and couldn't tell it was actually green, so therefor I thought it had an incorrect bag on it although it apparently dosen't. I think it would look better if the bag was a metallic green like the base.

Sam


Post# 64625 , Reply# 17   4/1/2009 at 12:25 (5,474 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Chad......We bought a Eureka 2083 Cordaway Upright in 1974.

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My father used to be the advertising director for Sanyo in Canada and because of that, he subscribed to a lot of trade magazines. One of the magazines or newspapers he used to get was "Home Furnishings Daily", which often had great full colour corporate ads from the major manufacturers. And so I would drool at the ads vac makers would have in HFD.

In 1974, Consumer Reports came out with a full report on upright and canister cleaners. As I was already a Eureka Prince in those days, I was elated to see how well the company did in that report. (If anyone has that issue, it would be great to have it scanned for the citizens of Vacuumland). Anyhow, to this day, I remember the rankings of the Eureka's: the model 2042 Upright was a Best Buy and ranked first, then the model 2082 with Cordaway, then the model 2072 without the Cordaway. In canisters, the new Eureka Power Teams were all top-rated (except the Empress Two Power Team - something about dangers inherent in the way the cord ran from the hose to the main unit), and number one was a basic red Princess canister married to a bare-bones red Roto-Matic powerhead.

Anyhoodle, I matched this report to a 1974 Eureka ad in HFD which I think preceeded the semi-annual housewares show at Chicago's McKormick Place. Eureka had a 3 - page insert showing their entire line in full colour. And I was able to match all the cleaners to the Consumer Reports article.

At the same time, it just so happened that Mom wanted Dad to get her a replacement for her blue Eureka Automatic Upright from 1960 or that or thereabouts. So I showed Dad the Consumer Reports magazine and we decided on the 2082 with Cordaway. A few weeks later he brought home our new vacuum. It was a Eureka Model 2083. The difference between the 2082 and the newer 2083 was the fact that Eureka had added two little dents into the bottom brush guard plate and marketed these new dents as "Edge Kleeners". So the Edge Kleener feature arrived on the scene soon after the 1974 Consumer Reports focus on vacs was printed. You can even see that the labelling for the "Edge Kleeners" were cheap decals affixed to the gold base of a 2082 on both ends of the base near the front - easily scratched off in a few short years. The two dents in the base and the two cheap decals turned a 2082 into a 2083.

I loved that 2083 - it was an amazing machine that lasted for over 20 years without any major repairs.


Post# 64626 , Reply# 18   4/1/2009 at 12:33 (5,474 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Addition to above post.....

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Oh, I forgot to mention that in the 1974 three-page corporate ad by Eureka in HFD, they showed that both the 2082 and the 2072 uprights had Eureka Beige hoods, alongside almost identical versions with chrome hoods and a slight change in model number. Maybe the chrome hooded cleaners were 2052 and 2062, can't remember.

I do remember that the cheaper 1974 Eureka uprights in the 1400 range had bright orange or red bases! We bought a nice basic orange-based one (metal two-piece handle but without a headlight) for our apartment in Florida a year or two later!


Post# 64628 , Reply# 19   4/1/2009 at 12:45 (5,474 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I had to go run look at my 2080, the green base, green shiny bag it has those little dents and the Edge Kleener decals on it.
My 2073 gold base, gold bag, no cordaway has the dents but the decals could be missing

My light blue 2070 upright automatic doesn't have the dents.


Post# 64629 , Reply# 20   4/1/2009 at 12:46 (5,474 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I got the blues


Post# 64630 , Reply# 21   4/1/2009 at 12:55 (5,474 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
To my mind...

...THIS is a 'very old' Eureka...the one in the initial link is just...a Eureka!

Post# 64631 , Reply# 22   4/1/2009 at 13:08 (5,474 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Well technically so Jack but the mid-century ones (like me) much like the convertibles do have their charms. Especially the all metal ones.

Eureka didn't sell these in the UK did they like Hoover did with the Convertibles?

I kinda like them a little more than the convertibles but I can't really say why that is. It just is and that's it.


Post# 64633 , Reply# 23   4/1/2009 at 13:16 (5,474 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Hi Pete - I didn't mean to imply the later Eurekas were in any way without their own charm and appeal, I was just amused by the 'very old' description, considering how long Eureka have been producing vacuum cleaners! Like when I see 'vintage Hoover Turbopower' on eBay - they were made within my own lifetime, and I'd like to hope I'M not vintage...yet!

No, as far as I know, Eureka never sold these sort of uprights in the UK. The first time I really saw a few close-up was at the convention last year!


Post# 64637 , Reply# 24   4/1/2009 at 13:30 (5,474 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
I know that the UK had some canned-ham Vibra-Beat Mobile-Air

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in the 1960's, but they were Eurekas hiding behind some other brandname like Piedmont or something like that. Would love to see a photo of that UK Eureka vac.

Pete, thanks for the visuals and the info. I am now really confounded as to why the Edge Kleeners ended up on the TOL 2080 but not on the MOL 2070.

Maybe the presence or lack of Edge Kleeners did not in fact affect the model number? Who knows.......wish I had some Eureka catalogues from the 70's right about now.......


Post# 64638 , Reply# 25   4/1/2009 at 13:34 (5,474 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

We had the canned-ham canister as The Parnall (or Parnell?) Vibra-Beat...I don't think I have a picture of one, or I'd post it, but I know I've seen pictures of them before - perhaps one of the other UK guys could help here?



Post# 64639 , Reply# 26   4/1/2009 at 13:37 (5,474 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Thank You Jack! That's the name! Parnall!

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Now to Google this to see if I can find a photo.....

Post# 64640 , Reply# 27   4/1/2009 at 13:42 (5,474 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Well it's hardly what you can call an edge kleener anyways. I'm still puzzled by the Edge cleaning claim on the Roto-matic power nozzles that have nothing underneath at all and brushes that are about 1/2 inch away from the edge on both sides.

Post# 64641 , Reply# 28   4/1/2009 at 13:47 (5,474 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        
Eureka! I found it!

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Okay, I am about to make my first attempt at attaching a photo here. Please don't hit me if the photo ends up too big - I do not have photoshop.

Here is an ad for the Parnall Vibra-Beat Suction Cleaner.....tada!


Post# 64654 , Reply# 29   4/1/2009 at 15:28 (5,474 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

Someone demoed one of those Vibra-Beat nozzles at the convention...what a racket! Could anybody actually stand to use them for any period of time?!

Post# 64735 , Reply# 30   4/1/2009 at 22:10 (5,474 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
Someone demoed one of those Vibra-Beat nozzles at the conven

Heh heh,

That demonstrator was me.....LOL

I brought that FNWB (fairly new with box)Eureka VibraBeat model 1010 that I found JUST before the convention last fall.

In fact I dislike it so much I've never used it since...the vacuum I have, but the Vibra-Beat I have not. I've found VibraBeat makes alot of noise, but isn't all that when it comes down to it. All bark, no bite.

The machine is very powerful tho, and while the hose is orig, the hose also leaks just enough where you can tell the difference from the suction end at the canister, and the attachment end. Someday I will ask Dear Friend Dave to assist me, or give me pointers on how to properly latex the innards of the hose, to renew the NEW suction strength.

You're right I think I had it on for like five minutes, then shut it down. LMAO, the noisiest thing to come out of a vacuum factory ever.


Post# 64739 , Reply# 31   4/1/2009 at 22:31 (5,474 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Maybe he can bring his bottles of Latex with him on Sunday


Post# 64742 , Reply# 32   4/1/2009 at 22:44 (5,474 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
I was just gonna say...

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I will bring the latex fixings and do a hose or two. Vinyl weave works best and is undetectable. Cloth weave is second choice as while not unsightly, the latex will seep through to the cotton threads and impart a slight darkening of the weave. But latex does dry and cure clear. On the vinyl weave hose the leached latex will simply rub off the vinyl leaving no exterior trace. Solid plastic or vinyl coil? - buy a new hose. :-)

We'll start when folks arrive - take about 20 minutes for the preparation, pour, drain and pressure impregnation and mop up, then we hang the hose vertical from the basement rafters with a running warm vacuum exhaust blowing through it - and by the middle of the afternoon it'll be cold cured and testable. All we need is one exhausted vacuum for each hose we do for the initial dry setting process, about an hour on warm exhaust.

bring a hose and we'll do'er, too.

Guess there's no need to bring along a Vibrabeat nozzle. LOL

Dave



Post# 64756 , Reply# 33   4/2/2009 at 01:11 (5,474 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Thanks so much for this link about the Cordaway Upright,,,this seller is less than 20 miles from where i live, so, i e-mailed them to find out if the machine is for sale,,,if so, i will get it!
Have never owned a Eureka Upright before,,it takes F&G bags im assuming?
Also, what kind of belt? Im assuming any vac shop should have them? Do they have a special name or model number?
What tips can you tell me about maintaining it, fresh bag, new belt, plenty of bristles on the brushroll, make sure its not missing any fan blades, ect? (im a Kirby man, so, if im dumb about Eureka's, you'll have to forgive me!), But im assuming all the things that are true of a Vintage Kirby also apply to a vintage Eureka.
Thanks guys!


Post# 64761 , Reply# 34   4/2/2009 at 04:42 (5,474 days old) by kenmore81 (Warwick, RI)        
Maitainence

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You are correct Brian, The bags are F&G, and the belt is the round type like the Convertible only a bit bigger in circomferance. Wally world should have the bags and belts, they usualy do at mine but sometimes i have to order online from wally. Not much maintainence at all like you said a new bag,belt and no missing fan blades lol. Mabe a little wipe down now and then.
Hope this helps.
Kenny


Post# 64783 , Reply# 35   4/2/2009 at 12:00 (5,473 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Yes, it does, thanks Kenny! I called the seller, and am going to pick up the machine tonite after work!
Will let you know what kind of condition its really in after i get it home and play with it a little.
Turns out this seller lives less than 15 miles from me, HA,,guess it pays to be on the look out!
I just hope someone hasnt vacuumed up pet droppings or vomit with it!
A buddy of mine that owns a Vac service and supply center says you wouldnt believe the things people will vacuum up,,,especially with older vacs.
He opened up an old Rainbow D2 once where someone had vacuumed up ROTTING FISH GUTS and STINK BAIT after cleaning out an old fishing shack,,,,and couldnt understand what was wrong with their Rainbow! It always worked before!!! - GEEEEZ!


Post# 64789 , Reply# 36   4/2/2009 at 14:52 (5,473 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Got the Eureka!! The seller delivered it to my door!
It does need bags, of course, and a new belt,,,are there any special tricks to putting a new belt on this Eureka?
Again, you'll have to forgive my stupidity,,i know virtually nothing about Eureka Uprights.
The vac looks to be in very good clean condition.
The seller said it belonged to his eldery mother that just went into a rest home,,and she kept very good care of all of her posessions. There were no attachments. And it is a 2 speed.
The Cordaway is nice and tight,,but the plug has been replaced at some point.
There is hardly a scratch or nick on the vacuum anywhere, and the brushroll is in excellent condition.
I think its a VG1? Its golden brown in color, with the red beater bars. The brush bristles are long and full, so, im assuming that means it has seen little use, for being as old as it is.
Im anxious to get bags and belts for it, and give it a go!
Thanks for the heads up!


Post# 64793 , Reply# 37   4/2/2009 at 16:02 (5,473 days old) by brandon_w_t ()        
you bought the one above?

Well congratulations. It looks like a beautiful vacuum.

Reminds me of a Sanitare. But gold!

IIRC, the vibra groomers are bars with actual dents in the brush for the beaters. I dont think they have beater strips like on a hoover.

Who knows? I dont!


Post# 64806 , Reply# 38   4/2/2009 at 17:35 (5,473 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Oh I think you're gonna like it and even in the picture it looks pretty unscathed. They have such a nice sound to them I think, unmistakeably a Eureka sound

Post# 64811 , Reply# 39   4/2/2009 at 18:04 (5,473 days old) by swingette ()        

The Vibra Groomer I is on top.
the Vibra Groomer II in on bottom.

If yours has read plastic beater bars, its wooden.


Post# 64832 , Reply# 40   4/3/2009 at 00:11 (5,473 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Thank you! Yes, it has the red beater bars. Its a model 2081-A and has a serial number of 3888773. (According to the stamp on the bottom of the machine.) Im assuming made in 1973?

This is my FIRST Eureka,,,boy, if anyone tells me again how heavy a Kirby Classic is to push,,,they have never pushed one of these Eureka's! That things like a tank!! Good Grief!!
That machine is ALOT of Vacuum Cleaner!
I had no idea how much MORE machine that is, compareed to say a,,Kirby 500 series. WOW!

Yes, a new belt is definatly in order,i can tell that its weak, and the headlight is burned out,,,will get it all fixed this weekend.
Im assuming a new belt will make the machine easier to push?

Yes the motor has a beautiful hummmm, and sounds perfect powering up, and winding down,,,no growling , or bearing noise at all.
Evidently the ol gal that owned it didnt use it very often!


Post# 64847 , Reply# 41   4/3/2009 at 09:46 (5,473 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
Brush rollers

Hi Brett I really like the brush roll # 2 looks like it would really do a wonderful job on the rugs. The older Eurekas really were nice machines. Take care Doug.

Post# 64849 , Reply# 42   4/3/2009 at 10:29 (5,473 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

It shouldn't be too hard to push, they're not nimble though, are you sure you have the setting right,, like a Kirby start at the top and move down till you can hear it on the carpet. but you'll need that new belt first.

Post# 64856 , Reply# 43   4/3/2009 at 12:10 (5,472 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Thank you Petek, will do!


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