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Thread Number: 5598
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| Post# 61876 3/7/2009 at 17:30 (5,527 days old) by methodistbill () | ||
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So which would you buy and why? Compact/Tristar or Filter Queen? Which has the better power nozzle? | ||
| Post# 61877 , Reply# 1 3/7/2009 at 17:56 (5,527 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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Tristar best vacuum ever. Im looking to buy one. Get a CXL though. Not one of the new ones. Superior suction. Same motor as on fq but the design is much better and more compact. | ||
| Post# 61894 , Reply# 4 3/7/2009 at 19:34 (5,527 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS) | ||
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| Post# 61895 , Reply# 5 3/7/2009 at 19:36 (5,527 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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HUH? Never seen a compact style tristar that was complete on ebay??? They are all over the place. For cheap too. $200-$300 | ||
| Post# 61896 , Reply# 6 3/7/2009 at 19:41 (5,527 days old) by ericaustin (Dallas, TX) | ||
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I got mine with paperwork/bags/tools complete for 30.00 on Craigslist! | ||
| Post# 61897 , Reply# 7 3/7/2009 at 20:01 (5,527 days old) by methodistbill () | ||
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Sandy Let me try emailing you and then try replying to my email. Don't know why it would be bounding back. I the Model G cord, straps, and wheel to Cody. I do have another turquoise hose cord, but it is not OEM. Bill | ||
| Post# 61898 , Reply# 8 3/7/2009 at 20:33 (5,527 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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ericaustin. We are all really jealous... Man I wish I could find a deal like that | ||
| Post# 61901 , Reply# 11 3/7/2009 at 21:00 (5,527 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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Easy to clean? A filter queen takes 10x as long to clean out and is less sanitary. Its like emptying a shopvac! The Tristar is simple. a little paper cup. Pull it out and throw away. Really simple. | ||
| Post# 61902 , Reply# 12 3/7/2009 at 21:16 (5,527 days old) by vintagehoover () | ||
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'I would never buy a diesoon as they are terrible and cant pick up anything.' A few people will disagree with you there. 'I tried a Miele today while at a store. Terrible and cheaply made. overpriced.' More than a few people will disagree with you there. | ||
| Post# 61908 , Reply# 14 3/7/2009 at 21:56 (5,527 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
Compact over Filter Queen hands down. Both have the original nostalgic look if that's a consideration, weigh about 12 pounds hoseless & tool-less and pull 80" or more. All conditions being equal both resist clogging and suction loss longer than any other consumer grade vacuum cleaner. Filter Queens come in basic black or brown with mylar stuck-on prone to scrape damage graphics, have a plastic bucket (the steel bucket adds more weight) and the dolly tends to fall off when picked up and bumped unless you get the salmon pink one with the cordwinder trolley. And frankly, looks old fashioned and frumpy. Which has it's own charm of course. On the plus side the Filter Queen can have a tool ring to carry all those accessories but they will contact walls and furniture before the ring bumpers do. The Compact/Tristar comes in many cheerful colors, has a sleeker narrower shape, doesn't bang your leg so much trundling up & down stairs and takes up less room in the closet. Emptying an FQ is like emptying a Shop Vac without the bag - you really want to be outside. Compact you simply grasp the bag ring like knitting bag handles, close, lift & toss. No need to shake the cloth bag every time, the paper liners are that good. Power nozzles? No contest. As many have noted before the FQ PN is like pushing a stubborn shoe box around particularly against the nap - and it skews laterally because the wand swivel connector is poorly designed & inherently wobbly. The Compact PN goes where it's pointed. Filter Queens are top heavy. Compacts are low to the ground and un-dentable magnesium. As much as I adore the 6 different FQ models I have, if that's the form factor I'm after I would choose the all polished chrome steel Fairfax with the racy red accents. It's just more modern...and takes an optional capacious paper bag in the bucket. Compacts? I third the statement that you need to get one of the older, IEC-built machines based on the Compact design, not one of the new MG-series machines. There's simply no other vacuum cleaner like it, unless you drift over to the 'Design Gone Bonkers' Haley'sComet, MiracleMate, or VortecForce school of awkward styling...and the we're really talking weight penalty. Dave, "the more you know, the more you know." Miele is rightly the class leader of canisters...and Dysons?...in this thread's league they have no class, just 'classtic'. | ||
| Post# 61916 , Reply# 16 3/7/2009 at 22:20 (5,527 days old) by kirbykid1 () | ||
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Oh My I must make a youtube video. Some people will never learn!!!!!!!!! Did you ever think of this. If compacts never clog then why do they need a bag. Why didnt they use cyclonic action only? Yeah I went there. | ||
| Post# 61917 , Reply# 17 3/7/2009 at 22:23 (5,527 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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Let's try to stay focused, people. | ||
| Post# 61918 , Reply# 18 3/7/2009 at 22:23 (5,527 days old) by kirbykid1 () | ||
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Um May I ask you something. When I say clog I hope and pray to god that you know I mean the bag pores not the actual hose or wands. Right? | ||
| Post# 61920 , Reply# 20 3/7/2009 at 22:47 (5,527 days old) by xraytech () | ||
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Actually everything clogs in time, including the pores in the TYristar and the filter cone in a FQ. The Tristar and filterqueen just manage maximum suction longer than other models because of their cyclonic action. | ||
| Post# 61923 , Reply# 22 3/7/2009 at 23:37 (5,527 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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oh I see Ok. But manual- do you really need one for a tristar? They are so easy to use any idiot could! | ||
| Post# 61927 , Reply# 25 3/8/2009 at 05:08 (5,527 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC) | ||
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Brandon I am curious to know exactly what models of Miele did you try??I have owned a Miele Solaris for the past 4 years, and it is the most pwerful, quiet, durable vacuum I have used. | ||
| Post# 61934 , Reply# 27 3/8/2009 at 11:10 (5,526 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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I know now I was watching a terrible demo of the ?s5? I think it was. I watched youtube videos and now I really like them... (and want one!) The guy that did the demo didn't know what he was doing and had something way wrong on the vacuum. | ||
| Post# 61956 , Reply# 28 3/8/2009 at 17:18 (5,526 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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Yer a good feller, Brandon. Speaks highly and to your credit that you read and fully comprehended the posts, dug into doing your own research, evaluated the findings and will give Miele another chance and a fresh look-over. At this point you can probably do your own Miele Demo. :-) Perhaps you will kindly re-visit that vendor and gently correct the manager/salesman alone behind closed doors away from customers. Dave | ||
| Post# 61961 , Reply# 29 3/8/2009 at 18:07 (5,526 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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I used one!! I went back to another store, and well... they had a new S5. I used it, and well... it was truly great!!! Love it. Just still to expensive and well... I dont have a job yet :( | ||
| Post# 62056 , Reply# 32 3/9/2009 at 16:18 (5,525 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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VII Yes you can. ttuee2006 did in his youtube vid on his Tristar CXL. Only buy genuine tristar filter bags. Then off brand paper bags. I think tristar parts are much more quality than others. | ||
| Post# 62064 , Reply# 34 3/9/2009 at 17:49 (5,525 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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What model is it? Most/ all compacts dont use PNs so you better check that it has the plug near the hose port. My Grandfather has a Compact electra. The green one- with a CXL nozzle. | ||
| Post# 62085 , Reply# 37 3/9/2009 at 21:13 (5,525 days old) by brandon_w_t () | ||
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CXL This is a tristar vacuum. If its from 1990 at least. A very good vacuum. Nice find. I have been looking for one forever. | ||
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