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Post# 61641   3/4/2009 at 16:26 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

Purchased this a couple of weeks back.

was very worried about how it would be packaged, especially re the fragile looking handle!

Needn't have worried though - securely packaged doesnt describe it. Very well padded.....


Post# 61642 , Reply# 1   3/4/2009 at 16:26 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

top box off....

Post# 61643 , Reply# 2   3/4/2009 at 16:28 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

Bottom box off...

Post# 61644 , Reply# 3   3/4/2009 at 16:29 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

The green matting has just come in very useful again in moving a Hotpoint Countess...........wait! wrong place!

Post# 61645 , Reply# 4   3/4/2009 at 16:30 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

Green matting off reveals a grubby starlight....

Post# 61646 , Reply# 5   3/4/2009 at 16:30 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

the hood....

Post# 61647 , Reply# 6   3/4/2009 at 16:33 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

The cleaner then waited a week in my room, before it headed over to its new home at Rob's place.

He mechanically did some fidgiting, before handing over to me for the cleaning and polishing.

It needs a new bulb for the dirt searcher, but it cleaned up SUPERBLY.

we are both really pleased with it...


Post# 61648 , Reply# 7   3/4/2009 at 16:34 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

and its other side...

Post# 61649 , Reply# 8   3/4/2009 at 16:36 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

the back, with intact lower cord hook and cleaned chord...

Post# 61650 , Reply# 9   3/4/2009 at 16:37 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

newly cleaned and polished hood.

there is hardly a ding at all on it...


Post# 61651 , Reply# 10   3/4/2009 at 16:39 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

October 1976...

Post# 61652 , Reply# 11   3/4/2009 at 16:39 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

top down...

Post# 61653 , Reply# 12   3/4/2009 at 16:44 (5,523 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
and finally....

excuse the green crocodile clip.
we are short on a bag grip for it at the moment.

hope you enjoy the piccies.

am really interested to learn more about the starlight and the junior de luxe, so would be love to hear other peoples experiences of them.
how many colours did they make them in?

cheers
paul


Post# 61660 , Reply# 13   3/4/2009 at 18:28 (5,523 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Oh, I do like it!

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That is a very lovely machine. Hoover UK must have had (duh) their own native team of thoughtful designers - the case is so sleek and aesthetically pleasing in that unique Euro way.I'm impressed and entranced by the shape of the base how it 'touches' the floor all around including across the back. It adds mechanical as well as visual strength - is it a metal casting?

Over here across the pond I've not seen a machine like this so forgiving my ignorance, What year(s) is it? Post Dial-matic I assume?

But that plug! Man, those are big & ugly! I don't know that I could get my small hand around that. That's the sort of thing we put on electric stoves and clothes dryers and connect once...oh, right, they all use 240 VAC...

Dave...ducks and covers...


Post# 61666 , Reply# 14   3/4/2009 at 19:03 (5,523 days old) by petek (Ontario)        
Clean and uncluttered

Reminiscent of the DAM, I like it.

Post# 61862 , Reply# 15   3/7/2009 at 03:20 (5,521 days old) by 74simon ()        
Hey Paul,

Funnily enough, my Starlight has been pressed into service as a daily driver at the moment! I think they've got a lot going for them - they don't spit grit out like Juniors and Seniors can, bags are a cinch to change and it doesn't topple with the handle in the operating position, like modern uprights seem to. Poor edge cleaning on the belt side is the only niggle to me.

The Starlight was launched as a competitor to hardbag cleaners by other manufacturers (Hotpoint, Goblin and in particular, Electrolux) which were being marketed successfully, unlike Hoover's Convertible. It was made between 1975 and '77, before being replaced by the Junior Deluxe, basically the same cleaner in different colours, although UK market machines omitted the headlamp and bag full indicator. This model was built until 1982, when the Turbopowers took over.

Dave - the hood is plastic, but there are reinforcing metal brackets at either side. I'm of the opinion that it's actually a pretty important model - kind of a lost link between the Convertible/DAM and the Concept One, the first Hoover to use the Convertible layout with direct fan action - in fact, it's the granddaddy of most of Hoover Worldwide's 1980s hardbag cleaners, IMHO! And it also introduced us to the joys of snapping lower cord hooks at the back...

The Starlights came in grey with either the red or dark blue bag door. There was also an exclusive model in beige with a coffee bag door. The Junior Deluxe came in either green and white, or bright yellow and black, and again there was an exclusive, made for the House of Fraser chain, in white with a black bag door, and, I think the HoF emblem on the front.

Si


Post# 61863 , Reply# 16   3/7/2009 at 03:30 (5,521 days old) by junior1975 ()        
Colours.

Hi Paul.

I am not 100% sure of the production dates of the starlight/junior delux cleaners, but I do know the various colours in which that were produced.

Pale grey and red as yours,
White and Green,
White and dark blue,
Off white and black (Allders exclusive)
Bright ornage and black
Coffee and Cream (Comet or Currys exclusive)

I have the red and grey U2002 and the Bright orange U2068.

I have found these to be excellent machines, the motor is a higher rated version of that in the standard Juinior with the blet shaft on the rear instead of fan and belt pulley on the same end.

The lower cable hooks are the weakest point on these and to find one in tact is a miracle on its own, and to find one which is as clean and original as yours along with no discolouration is a marvel indeed.

Just for your information, afaik, the U2068 was the same machine in all aspects apart from doing away with the headlight and renaming it to Junior Delux!

Hope this helps.


Dave:

The Starlight was intended to replace the Convertible/DAM over here in europe, but was in fact a retrogressive step as it reverted to dirty fan cleaning. In the end we had the DAM/Convertible until around the end of the 1980's where as the starlight 1975 - 1983ish. The Turbopower range replaced it. You had the Sovereign over there in the US but I do not beleive it was anywhere close to being as popular as the turbopower was in the UK.


Happy hoovering all!


Clark.



Post# 61865 , Reply# 17   3/7/2009 at 08:37 (5,521 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Thank you Simon & Paul for all that information. It really is a sharp looking upright. Finding any 30+ year vacuum in this super condition is always a bonus.

Just marvel at how thick the bag door plastic is - no reinforcing ribs needed here. :-) Can we all see the Miele S7 in the base shape?

Dave


Post# 62067 , Reply# 18   3/9/2009 at 18:48 (5,518 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
Very nice

I remember a Hoover Demonstrator said she had one, and that she hadn't had to change the drive belt.

Now, I don't know if she meant that it still had the original belt, or whether she was speaking figuratively (Junior and Senior cleaners ate round belts; flat belts lasted much longer).

Definately looks like it was built to last, compared to some modern rubbish.


Post# 62070 , Reply# 19   3/9/2009 at 19:08 (5,518 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I'm a little confused now, which/what is the Sovereign like the Scotch made Innovation aka Turbomaster that we had here for a few seconds sometime back in the late 80's iirc



Post# 62137 , Reply# 20   3/10/2009 at 06:15 (5,518 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Starlight de-luxe

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Nice one Paul, glad it arrived safe & sound, thats more packing than i`ve seen on a few posted vacs!!!

I`ve got the Junior delux, nifty little vac, nice & powerful as well...BUT,,ask any repairer or service man about it and stand well back...LOl you have to take everything apart on it to get to the main bits, unlike other hoover vacs!!!

heres Jack doing what he does best!!!


CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK


Post# 62138 , Reply# 21   3/10/2009 at 06:20 (5,518 days old) by junior1975 ()        
Sovereign

Pete,

The sovereign/turbopower is the smaller sibling of the Innovation/turbomaster range.

Here is Jack Copps U2336. I am sure he wont mind me using his pic here.

Had to link to it as here at work it would not let me embed it in the post. (Damn network restrictions).


Happy hoovering.

Clark.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO junior1975's LINK


Post# 62140 , Reply# 22   3/10/2009 at 06:54 (5,518 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

No problem, Clark! Link away, that's what they're there for :)

I don't think anyone's mentioned yet the other serious flaw with the Starlight; they were notorious handle-snappers! Although made of metal, they would break in half if roughly handled!

Also, I think I'm correct in saying the on/off switch in these machines is unsual, in that the switch is in the neutral wire, not the live?

Here's a couple more pics of my Turbopower. As has been mentioned, the Turbopowers are direct decendents of the Starlight Junior / Junior Deluxe. This is my favourite of all the Turbopower models; you can't beat that glowing red!


Post# 62141 , Reply# 23   3/10/2009 at 06:56 (5,518 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

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Post# 62142 , Reply# 24   3/10/2009 at 06:57 (5,518 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

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Post# 62145 , Reply# 27   3/10/2009 at 07:17 (5,518 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Coincidentally...

...Hoover were working on this 'sideways' motor layout as far back as - wait for it - 1918! It's an in-house design, too, since it's filed under the name of H E Hoover. Only real difference is that the belt pulley comes out of the fan-end:

Post# 62146 , Reply# 28   3/10/2009 at 07:18 (5,518 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

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Post# 62147 , Reply# 29   3/10/2009 at 07:23 (5,518 days old) by vintagehoover ()        

...and they were still developing it in 1935! This patent is for a sound-muffling system for the air-outlet.

I'd guess the reason this never made it into production was that a) it was too ahead of it's time, and they didn't have the technology to manufacture it on a large scale, at reasonable cost, and b) because they couldn't get it to run quietly enough to be considered acceptable by the day's standards. All that metal must have made it pretty heavy, too!

There would have been various working prototypes of this machine; who wants to bet some still survive in Hoover's Vault?


Post# 62173 , Reply# 30   3/10/2009 at 15:29 (5,518 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Jack,

Yours seems to have taken on a loving glow evoking a few memories of my own with its radiant colour change.

Funny how certain colours do much for bringing things flooding back.

I like how yours has altered compared to our "Lipstick" red.

Such a whoreish colour really yet so fabulous,

Folks I give you Laquer Red and Deep Laquer Red



Post# 62174 , Reply# 31   3/10/2009 at 15:31 (5,518 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Post# 62177 , Reply# 32   3/10/2009 at 16:00 (5,518 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Thanks for the info. So the Sovereign/turbopower size wise would be like the Electrolux/my Volta 503 I'm assuming.

Post# 62256 , Reply# 33   3/11/2009 at 10:16 (5,517 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
'I like how yours has altered compared to our "Lips

No, no...that's just the camera flash...

Post# 62258 , Reply# 34   3/11/2009 at 10:45 (5,517 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
And..Deep Laquer Red it is then...Lol

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lovely colours there!!! One could always rely on hoover for colour!!!

now Rob, whats the story to the vac?? I gathered you had something NEW, you`ve been all quiet!!!

Jack, wherever did you find that patent?? brilliant, I wonder how well it would have sold had it been made!!





Post# 62262 , Reply# 35   3/11/2009 at 12:27 (5,517 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover sizes

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Hi Pete, heres a pic denoting the sizes of the TurboMaster, TurboPower, Junior De-Lux (Later Starlight) & Electrolux Z500 (Volta)

Post# 62265 , Reply# 36   3/11/2009 at 12:42 (5,517 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Side Profile

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TurboMaster U5096, TurboPower U2336, Junior De-Luxe U2068(later starlight) & Electrolux Z500

Post# 62267 , Reply# 37   3/11/2009 at 15:32 (5,517 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Me quiet?

God no we have had the Laquer TP for a while now.
It was about the last time you were over in Crewe.

Few new vacs,

the Kirby is still the fave at the minute along with the Starlight, Lux Airstream - forgotten just how good they were.
Also the newest aquisition the Cotswold Beige Turboopwer Total System to match the U5096.

Paul may be good enough to post some pix as he has them on our camera.

Next week we will be able to reveal a complete colourway collection we have been working on,



Post# 62268 , Reply# 38   3/11/2009 at 15:33 (5,517 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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No more I think,

Bedrooms are being taken over!


Post# 62276 , Reply# 39   3/11/2009 at 17:27 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
Finally got round to signing on again.....

Thanks guy for all the posts on the thread - great reading and viewing.

Thanks to Simon and Clark for the starlight and junior de luxe info. you do realsie what you have done dont you?

the info has spurned me on to start adding to and updating my hoover junior spreadsheet, although it will remain second in line for the time being (with Hotpoint shutting up shop at Kinmel Park at the end of July, i am rejigging my Hotpoint laundry appliances spreadsheet).
Although, thinking about it, i should be updating the Hoover laundry spreadsheet, as Merthyr Tydfil production stops this weekend!

Anyway...

Jack - what you mention about the handle was what really worried me about our machine and the postal system. they dont look particularly strong (in my opinion) and i had this image of the cleaner being sent with its body in a box, with the handle sticking out the top - or not!
Thankfully it turned up OK.

have to say that the U2068 is deffo an acquired taste! bold and brash is how i will politeley put it.
Love the green Junior De luxe Mike - lovey colour scheme.
Seeing your green junior de luxe alongside the U2332 Wedgewood Turbopower has made me think - a picture of the U2002 alongside the U2336.
two bright red uns.

Once again - thanks for all the useful info guys.
much appreciated.
paul





Post# 62277 , Reply# 40   3/11/2009 at 17:34 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
The recent acquisitions....

Electrolux Airstream 1000 Z1490

Post# 62278 , Reply# 41   3/11/2009 at 17:48 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
Back to Hoover...

and back to a successor to the Starlight and the machine which introduced the words 'Total' and 'System' to the Autoflex Turbopowers.

Thanks go to James (kirbymodel2c) for enabling me and rob to acquire this superb example of model U2604 Turbopower Total System Autoflex and thanks again to him for great Saturday. Will set up a thread on mine and rob's afternoon at 'Kirby Central' soon!

Regards to all
Paul


Post# 62282 , Reply# 42   3/11/2009 at 17:54 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

having accidentally posted the picture below on the wrong thread, i will try and get it loaded on the right thread this time!

the hood detail...


Post# 62283 , Reply# 43   3/11/2009 at 17:55 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

the branding...

Post# 62284 , Reply# 44   3/11/2009 at 17:57 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
Oh....

and some unusual branding on this one!

Post# 62285 , Reply# 45   3/11/2009 at 17:59 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

Model U2570 Turboboost

Post# 62286 , Reply# 46   3/11/2009 at 18:01 (5,516 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
and to Mike's place...

and his wonderful Junior de Luxe....

Post# 62327 , Reply# 47   3/12/2009 at 00:07 (5,516 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Since the red turbopower was being discussed I thought I'd post a couple of pages of an old hoover brochure here.

Doug


Post# 62328 , Reply# 48   3/12/2009 at 00:08 (5,516 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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and the facing page

Post# 62332 , Reply# 49   3/12/2009 at 04:56 (5,516 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Heres the Starlights...!!!

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This is what the motor & fan unit look like from the Starlight & Junior De-Luxe, nice & compact but very powerful at only 350watts....

Post# 63763 , Reply# 50   3/24/2009 at 10:40 (5,504 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Post# 63766 , Reply# 51   3/24/2009 at 11:02 (5,504 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Doug, we never had any of those above cleaners did we, other than the rare as hens teeth Junior

Post# 63902 , Reply# 52   3/25/2009 at 19:44 (5,502 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
Hoover 'TurboBoost'

I think this was a Currys exclusive model. If I remember rightly, to operate the boost function, the user had to physically keep the 3-position rocker switch depressed in the '+' position.

Normal Turbopower 'Plus' machines had slow and high speed settings that stayed put when selected.


Post# 318674 , Reply# 53   3/18/2015 at 12:59 (3,319 days old) by hooverking (Scarborough)        
Starlight from Allander House ofvFraser

Hi I thought you guys might like to see my Starlight it was bought from House of Fraser and is virtually unused .

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Post# 318788 , Reply# 54   3/19/2015 at 15:06 (3,318 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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May I just ask?

Out of curiosity is this ALLANDER STARLIGHT for sale?




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