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Post# 58193   1/14/2009 at 15:40 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        

Hey Guys

Meet the very last version of the indestructible 90/912 series...
April 1989!


Post# 58194 , Reply# 1   1/14/2009 at 15:41 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Lookin pretty :)

Hood closeup

Post# 58195 , Reply# 2   1/14/2009 at 15:43 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Get the bag.....

Inflated.....

Post# 58196 , Reply# 3   1/14/2009 at 15:44 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Side on

Notice the Zip...

Post# 58198 , Reply# 4   1/14/2009 at 15:45 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Inner bag ....

Can you notice what makes this example EXTRA special??

Post# 58199 , Reply# 5   1/14/2009 at 15:47 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
A clear indication...

Right...

Not only is this a stupidly rare beast(im not aware of anyone else in the UK owning one)- but its never seen dirt!!!!


Post# 58200 , Reply# 6   1/14/2009 at 15:49 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
With Manual and Service Centre list

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Post# 58207 , Reply# 7   1/14/2009 at 17:13 (5,551 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        

Great stuff Seamus.

It looks superb - immaculate even.

Great to have the instruction manual etc too.

Wonderful that another model of cleaner has a well preserved UK representative.

Have fun.
paul


Post# 58208 , Reply# 8   1/14/2009 at 17:20 (5,551 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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Hello!
This is probably the rarest version of mod U 7008, I have never seen one in my life, congratulations on this wonderful find!
tommy


Post# 58209 , Reply# 9   1/14/2009 at 17:33 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Cheers Guys :)

Paul

I never realised this model existed till I saw this on Ebay -I think it will stay unused(although it will take a Turbopower paper bag so that may change....).

Tommy

I guess I was surfing at the right time - it was a buy it now -so I did!

Seamus


Post# 58224 , Reply# 10   1/14/2009 at 19:43 (5,551 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Now that's a great buy, really nice.. I wouldn't use it either. Just plug it in to run up off the floor I would.

Post# 58229 , Reply# 11   1/14/2009 at 20:06 (5,551 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        
WoW!

That's incredible!

Congrats!



Post# 58235 , Reply# 12   1/14/2009 at 21:15 (5,551 days old) by swingette ()        

Yo Seamus!

So that machine is all original?? Wild. Looks like it has a dirt tube muffler, like the US Conquest upright. Those machines arent too loud and with that muffler it would be even quieter.

About that outer bag: I ordered a NOS Hoover bag made of that same material not too long ago. When i opened it, i noticed it had a very odd odor. When i slid the top off for the first time it tore very easily. The bag had dry rot allover. The threads would turn to dust when rubbed between my fingers. I hope your bag is much stronger!

Its amazing that this machine was produced until the end of the 80s!


Post# 58267 , Reply# 13   1/15/2009 at 01:19 (5,551 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
:)

David

You were on of the Hoover Commercial fans I was refering to lol ;).

Yup its all original as it left the factory- the instructions refer to that bag setup etc.

The bag is fine- that sucks about your NOS one, maybe it had been stored somewhere where it had picked the rot up :(

Ive attached the link to the auction, although it was listed as new I wasnt convinced, but it was just dirt :). It had possibly been stored in a garage going on the small ammount of rust on the baseplate but ive sorted that :).

Oh the seller agreed to post it thankfully otherwise I wouldnt have been lucky enough to get it .

Seamus


CLICK HERE TO GO TO seamusuk's LINK on eBay


Post# 58275 , Reply# 14   1/15/2009 at 09:06 (5,551 days old) by ohio_tuec ()        

That is a beautiful commercial model indeed. Love the colors! I'm astounded a machine with this much steel was still available 20 years ago. By stark contrast here in the states we already had the Hoover Elites. Seems like U.K. got to hold onto the better models for a longer period of time. IIRC, the Dial-A-Matic/Convertible was available over there up until 1989 as well. A full 10 years after being discontinued here.

Post# 58336 , Reply# 15   1/16/2009 at 13:13 (5,549 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Ok so I read the manual properly....

Spot the difference lol....

Post# 58337 , Reply# 16   1/16/2009 at 13:15 (5,549 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Side on mk2

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Post# 58338 , Reply# 17   1/16/2009 at 13:16 (5,549 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Ok a closeup ;)

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Post# 58339 , Reply# 18   1/16/2009 at 13:18 (5,549 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Yup.......

It was kinda obvious lol- the bag slide fits on the INNER`bag - looks so much better :). Obviously it stays in place if you use a paper bag !

Post# 58340 , Reply# 19   1/16/2009 at 13:22 (5,549 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Last one....

Just to show we did have some cleaners with moulded plugs ;)
Note THIS APPLIANCE IS DOUBLE INSULATED AND MUST NOT BE EARTHED


Post# 58374 , Reply# 20   1/16/2009 at 18:37 (5,549 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
SeamusUK

Very nice machine.

What type of agitator does it use? Can you show a pic?

At the time, you could purchase a different brushroll, known as '4-brush groomer' for low-profile carpeting.


Post# 58375 , Reply# 21   1/16/2009 at 18:41 (5,549 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
325 Watts

Seems strange that it is less powerful than the old 612 models, which were rated at 400W.

Post# 58397 , Reply# 22   1/17/2009 at 00:27 (5,549 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Brushroll

Hey Calum

It has the standard 2 brush/beater bar agitator. You are quite correct there is an all brush unit mentioned in the manual specially for carpet tiles/short pile and stuck down carpet(I have one somewhere).

Seamus

P.S The rust has been sorted :)


Post# 58398 , Reply# 23   1/17/2009 at 00:30 (5,549 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Oh the Wattage.....

Forgot to say I was told Hoover changed the way they measured the wattage but its the same performance as the earlier 400W versions.

Seamus


Post# 58538 , Reply# 24   1/18/2009 at 14:02 (5,547 days old) by turbopowerpaul (UK)        
I know this is the wrong place so sorry, but.....

I have to make a comment.....

Seamus.....

your A3308 Computer Control 1100 looks in great nick!
Please, please post a piccy of this wonder of 1980's Merthyr Tydfill!

Still loving the C1312 - piccies now in my library for future reference, should i ever do a Hover Commercial spreadsheet!

Cheers
paul


Post# 58540 , Reply# 25   1/18/2009 at 14:17 (5,547 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
One for Paul..

Hey Mate

Apparently 100ml of Dixan and my summer single duvet got a bit foamy ......

I need to get some touch up paint for under the door ;)


Post# 58542 , Reply# 26   1/18/2009 at 16:15 (5,547 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
SeamusUK

Thanks for the pics and info (I wonder how Hoover can measure Wattage differently? I always thought that it was Voltage multiplied by Current).

Paul: feel free to mention the Hoover washer.

SeamusUK: Was it you who mentioned on some other thread, that I should tell you if I got a box of Dixan from the Co-Op? If so, then yes, I did; for £8.00. I've still to open the box though.


Post# 58545 , Reply# 27   1/18/2009 at 17:49 (5,547 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        
oh my God!

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Hello, today I went to my mother's house where I keep my vacuum cleaners collection. She kindly asked me to go and pick her up at the switzerland custom as she had been spending the weekend there. Well whene her friend opened his bentley's luggage compartment he smiled and said"this is for you child!"
A wonderful Hoover U 7008 he found in a closet in his office. After realizing it was mine and appreciating that at 29 someone still dares to call me child I picked it upand ran fastly home!
It works wonderfully , I'll try and post somepictures as soon as I can as I don't have my camera with me. it is gorgeous because the man found in the clset also the original while the cleaner has sometime been fitted with a genuine grey smaller bag with top fillin tube for paper bags!
I'm really happy tonight!
tommy


Post# 58581 , Reply# 28   1/19/2009 at 01:00 (5,547 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
:)

Hey Tommy

Thats great !

Look forward to seeing the top fill setup- I will take a better pic of this one later, the bag flange is plastic and screws to the chassis.
Maybe your U7008 is the same??

Seamus


Post# 58600 , Reply# 29   1/19/2009 at 11:55 (5,546 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Leaflet scans...

Thanks for posting these on Hooverland Stephen!



Post# 58601 , Reply# 30   1/19/2009 at 11:55 (5,546 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Another

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Post# 58602 , Reply# 31   1/19/2009 at 12:00 (5,546 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Last one

Notice this one says VIRTUALLY indestructible lol

Im surprised its "only" 11.7kg it feels heavier!

The C1314 Commercial Turbomaster(Innovation) is next on my wish list lol!


Post# 58603 , Reply# 32   1/19/2009 at 13:36 (5,546 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
More Bag pics...

Im presuming the bag assemblies were imported from North Canton as it appears to basically be the Conquest setup..

Post# 58604 , Reply# 33   1/19/2009 at 13:37 (5,546 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Bag fixing..

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Post# 58605 , Reply# 34   1/19/2009 at 13:38 (5,546 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Side on...

Showing fixing screw

Post# 58615 , Reply# 35   1/19/2009 at 16:34 (5,546 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
SeamusUK

What is the arrow-shaped sticker on the side of the hood? Does it point to some kind of height-right control?

Post# 58648 , Reply# 36   1/20/2009 at 07:17 (5,546 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
The Height adjuster...

Hey Calum

The back wheels turn to 3 different heights and are locked with a pin- you can sort of see on the pic of the underside and I will take a closeup asap.

As far as I know the 912A was the 1st version to have 3 settings, the 912 worked on the same principal but only had 2-if any UK collectors know different feel free to correct me lol! :)

Seamus


Post# 58758 , Reply# 37   1/21/2009 at 09:11 (5,545 days old) by swingette ()        
What gave you the idea i was into Hoover Commercial ...

Here's the last of the all-metal Heavy Duty series for the US, the u7037, and its replacement.

Post# 58759 , Reply# 38   1/21/2009 at 09:13 (5,545 days old) by swingette ()        

Full-coverage furniture guard. Headlight and cloth shakeout bag are standard.

Post# 58760 , Reply# 39   1/21/2009 at 09:18 (5,545 days old) by swingette ()        

I think i prefer the agitator update on the latter UK models. The US models stuck with this older-style agitator till the end.

Notice the edge-to-edge sweeping of the Conquest. The US Conquest had the same dirt collection system as Seamus's cleaner.


Post# 58761 , Reply# 40   1/21/2009 at 09:23 (5,544 days old) by swingette ()        

Thanks for starting this thread, Seamus.

And thanks Stephen for those Hooverland scans. I cant believe the UK Dual-Purpose (Elite/Turbolite-style) cleaner is promoted as being quiet running! What were they comparing it to??


Post# 58782 , Reply# 41   1/21/2009 at 16:18 (5,544 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Agitators..

Hey David

The 912A onwards used the slide in Nylon brushes. HOWEVER my 4 brush carpet groomer uses the same type as your U7037- are they still availiable over there????

Its interesting your U7037 has a UK format serial number dating it to March 1979. My US built /UK market machines(U4003,2106 Portable and 858) all have UK Serial numbers.

Cheers
Seamus


Post# 58783 , Reply# 42   1/21/2009 at 16:26 (5,544 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Forgot to say..

David..

One interesting point- The U7008 and C1312 lack the Headlight- the 912A was our last version to have it. As you are probably aware our Headlight models had a metal grille over the bulb your versions lacked.

As they were all made over here it strikes me as a bit strange lol!


Post# 58817 , Reply# 43   1/22/2009 at 05:08 (5,544 days old) by swingette ()        

Seamus, last time i checked the dished cast aluminum brush strips were still current. This was before TTI, though.

When did production of 912a begin in the UK? Seems in the US the model was designated 913 then 918 sometime in the late 60s or early 70s? I know in the US our 913 started as a two rug-position machine and ended as multi-position just before the 918. Ive never been clear about the timeline. Your info about the agitators leads me to believe that US Hoover provided the agitators as well as the bags and handles. Perhaps they added the lamps/lamp sockets as well?

David


Post# 58823 , Reply# 44   1/22/2009 at 08:06 (5,544 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
A rough timeline.....

Model 912 1949- Approx 1968 Headlight, 2 position height control,old style rubber handle grip, metal brush inserts. 3 core earthed/grounded.

912A Approx 1968-Approx 1977 Headlight, 3 position height control, new plastic handle grip/switch plate, nylon brush inserts.Early machines earthed late machines double insulated.

U7008 Approx 1977-Approx 1988 Blanking plate over Headlight, fully shrouded furniture guard, 3 position height control all double insulated.

All the above have shake out bags as standard.

C1312 Possibly only 1989???. As U7008 but revised beige/brown body and Conquest bag setup. As ive said im not aware of any other UK collector actually owning one!!!

Seamus


Post# 58825 , Reply# 45   1/22/2009 at 08:13 (5,544 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Ref the differences on US Versions

David

It may be the case (as with the 1340 series Junior/Lightweights) that only the motor unit was made over here. The headlamp would be very easy to add once they got to NC as the blanking plate covering the opening is held on with 2 screws and it would just be a matter of adding the lampholder and wiring. Obviously the bags and handle would be easy enough to add in NC as well.

I know the 90 and early 91s were made in NC before production went to Perivale- would 1949 coincide with the change???

Seamus


Post# 58942 , Reply# 46   1/24/2009 at 10:26 (5,541 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
TTI and parts supply...

Do I remember someone posting the news that TTI were discontinuing all spares and bags for pre 2000 cleaners??

Not good news if its true!!!!

Seamus


Post# 58960 , Reply# 47   1/24/2009 at 17:02 (5,541 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        
My contribution!

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1976, as you see there's still Model 912

Post# 58961 , Reply# 48   1/24/2009 at 17:03 (5,541 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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1978, U 4082 and early U 7008, with black bag.

Post# 58962 , Reply# 49   1/24/2009 at 17:06 (5,541 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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1980, grey U 4082 and U 7008 with full black handle and grey bag.

Post# 58963 , Reply# 50   1/24/2009 at 17:09 (5,541 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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1987, U 7008 among the others...

Post# 58964 , Reply# 51   1/24/2009 at 17:10 (5,541 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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1989, commercial full range

Post# 58965 , Reply# 52   1/24/2009 at 17:12 (5,541 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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part 2, as you see U 7008 with orange bag, exactly the same as the conquest's type.

Post# 58966 , Reply# 53   1/24/2009 at 17:13 (5,541 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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03 the conquests

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C 1300

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conquests

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the family

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red conquests

Post# 58981 , Reply# 59   1/24/2009 at 18:27 (5,541 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
U7008`C

Hi Tommy

How odd- the C1312 is defiantly April 89 so im guessing you had the U7008C with the orange bag instead??. I still cant believe I have this- its still not had dirt through it but im VERY tempted to put a paper bag in and give it a quick run round :).

Any pics of your paper bag converted U7008 yet ;)?

Cheers
Seamus


Post# 59188 , Reply# 60   1/26/2009 at 17:59 (5,539 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        
the baby and his bag!

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Hi Seamus, I'm sure this is a genuine replacement bag of the late eighties, though the top filling tube is the same as the ones used on Convertibles (Senior Ranger) like mod U 4002-4014 from the mid-late Seventies.
Following some pictures!
tommy


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Post# 59248 , Reply# 69   1/27/2009 at 00:33 (5,539 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        
Bags..

Hey Tommy

Id say late 70s fo that cloth bag which would tie in with the top fill setup(as you are no doubt aware the actual cleaner is March 1980).

I wonder if the modification was done by the dealer when it was sold or later in its life- it dosent look out of place and obviously makes it so much easier and cleaner to empty :).

My U7008 has been modified (by me) to use standard bottom fill paper bags but still has the original outer bag. I used the bellows/fil tube from a scrap 638 ;).

Seamus


Post# 59269 , Reply# 70   1/27/2009 at 14:04 (5,538 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        

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well, I guess that the replacement bag was fitted during the eighties, probably something left in the infentory because ALL the Hoover U7008 I saw after bag replacement for paper bag use had a white nylon bag whith red "hoover commercial" label and a top filling system very similar to the ones used on the power-plus range(U 4064-U 4298) with cardboard plate and filling hole in the front.
However this 7008 is in great conditions, just a little bit dirty and runs so quiet...I really love those beasts... however I remember that the bag replacement lately meant removing from the old cloth bag the bottom part that was locked to the machine and the rubber elbow with top filling tube had to be glued to it...kind of a boring procedure, ever heard anything about it? The reason is because the last bag assembly available ( the conquest range orange bag) was much more expensive!
Tommy



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