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Post# 56642   12/21/2008 at 18:40 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Hey Guys! Here's some more pics of my collection. Enjoy! First, the G.E./ Premier with the power nozzle.

Post# 56643 , Reply# 1   12/21/2008 at 18:44 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Now, here's a near mint G.E. Swivel-Top with the factory box, instruction sheet, and all. Since red is one of my favorite colors, you can imagine how happy I was to find this one in an under stairs closet at an estate sale preview!

Post# 56644 , Reply# 2   12/21/2008 at 18:47 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Here's another G.E. Swivel-Top, that's even nicer than the last one! This was a gift from my late boss about 10 years ago.

Post# 56645 , Reply# 3   12/21/2008 at 18:49 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Now here's another rare bird, or so I'm told. The green Hoover Constellation with the switch in the hose handle.

Post# 56646 , Reply# 4   12/21/2008 at 18:52 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

You guys remember Ugly Betty from past threads? Well, meet her big sister Grazellda.

Post# 56647 , Reply# 5   12/21/2008 at 18:54 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

And this is her brother Harold, complete with power nozzle.

Post# 56649 , Reply# 6   12/21/2008 at 18:57 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Since someone asked me about the power nozzle in another thread, and again, since red's one of my favorite colors, here's my red and white Princess

Post# 56650 , Reply# 7   12/21/2008 at 19:02 (5,598 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Last but not least, here's another one of my favorite machines, a red and white Eureka Princess with power nozzle. I found this one in a thrift store, COMPLETE, about 3 or 4 years ago.

Post# 56666 , Reply# 8   12/21/2008 at 20:50 (5,598 days old) by crevicetool (GA )        
Calm down there son!!!!

Your gonna wear out that camera!!!! LOL Toby, is that the only vacuums you have in your collecton???

Rick


Post# 56668 , Reply# 9   12/21/2008 at 21:10 (5,598 days old) by luxg ()        

Toby, I love the Sunbeam with the power nozzle. I almost bought one of those new back in the early 70's. Wish now that I had.LOL Love your collection, thanks for sharing it with us. Terry

Post# 56688 , Reply# 10   12/21/2008 at 23:08 (5,598 days old) by kirbyotronic ()        
Hey Toby!

Can we get some more pics of the Connie please?

Merry Christmas!


Post# 56697 , Reply# 11   12/22/2008 at 01:22 (5,598 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Thank you Toby for posting this,,,WOW,,,i havnt seen one of those Sunbeam's with Power Nozzle in years! You sure have an excellent collection.
About the Premier/GE Swivel Top with PN,,,is it hard to use with the PN? Does the PN cord to the vac keep the top from swiveling too much?
Also, could you post more pics of the Sunbeamwith PN?
Where is the PN plug on the vac? How powerful is the suction, and how powerful/agressive is the PN? Are there beater bars, or just brushes,,,and did Sunbeam make the PN themselves?
Also, ive always been curious about the little rubber like white knob thingy on the front,,,what does it do?

I remember seeing those Sunbeam's at a local catalog/showroom store as a kid in the 70s, and remember wanting one very badly!
Do they still make bags for the Sunbeam's?
Did Sunbeam also make an upright? I kinda remember a stick vac sort of upright, but not a full size, with beater brush, ect.

Very cool collection you have,,,good job!


Post# 56698 , Reply# 12   12/22/2008 at 01:28 (5,598 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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I remember an elderly neighbor lady when i was a kid, (1970s) she had that same exact red Eureka Princess, with the red PN,,,she also had a sort of folding shoe rack type thing for the tools, she kept the tools on it at the back of her closet.
She had thick heavy shag carpet, the kind that had to be raked, vacuumed, and raked again. She would pay me a couple of dollars to come over, and do her carpets,,,i remember enjoying using that Eureka. Thanks for jogging my memory!


Post# 56719 , Reply# 13   12/22/2008 at 15:24 (5,597 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
PowerNozzle vacuums...my very FAVORITE type of vacuum.

Toby,

Wow do you have a great collection of cleaners there. I have never seen two of them, one being the very first Premier canister with a "Douglas" powerhead, and then the later Sunbeam Challenger with a powerhead.

So it comes to reason then, that over the final years of the Swivel-Top's lifespan General Electric or Premier Electric, three different powernozzles were used.

The first one was a Royal built PowerNozzle like what was used on the Pony Tanks, and had a headlight. It was a wider powernozzle, and had about a 15 inch cleaning path. This was the one used during the General Electric years, and is comparatively rare. It also saw use on Air-Way and others as well.

The second one, and the much more common one was the FilterQueen Model 88 Powerhead. Not only was it used by Royal and Filter Queen, it was also used by Premier and Singer for their canisters as well. It was an "off the shelf" powernozzle that was made for many years, and may well still be available.

The third one then is the "Douglas built" powerhead you have on yours. These were used on everything from Douglas's own machines, to badge engineered Douglas Home Cleaning Systems for Montgomery Wards, Air-Way used them as well as Vita Vac, Metropolitan rebuilt Electroluxes used them as well as thier later Matropolitan tanks.....Silver King used it......

It's apparant as many smaller sized companies making canister-tank vacuum cleaners started hopping on the Powerhead bandwagon. When they looked into making their own, as many may have done; they found the cost was prohibitive. So they had a few available off the shelf units to choose from including ones from Hoover and Eureka.

All in all i would like to see what your Sunbeam Powernozzle looks like. It somehow reminds me of a rebodied Hoover Powermatic Powerhead.....

I woiuld love to know if my hunch is right...Or if it was possible Sunbeams own.????


Chad


Ann Arbor Michigan



Post# 56732 , Reply# 14   12/22/2008 at 19:13 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Did someone say more Connie pics? Here they are. Pic.1

Post# 56733 , Reply# 15   12/22/2008 at 19:14 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Pic. 2

Post# 56734 , Reply# 16   12/22/2008 at 19:15 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Last one. You can see the switch in the handle in this one.

Post# 56735 , Reply# 17   12/22/2008 at 19:17 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

My little grass vac shack out back!!

Post# 56736 , Reply# 18   12/22/2008 at 19:21 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Here's more of the Sunbeam with power nozzle. It has good suction, and the power head is fairly aggressive. As you can see in the second pic, it has both brushes and beater bars in the pn, and the hose cord plugs into a socket on the side of the cleaner.

Post# 56737 , Reply# 19   12/22/2008 at 19:23 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Here's the bottom. From the label on the back, it appears to have been made by Sunbeam.

Post# 56738 , Reply# 20   12/22/2008 at 19:26 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Since Chad loves vacs with pns, here's a couple more of those. First, a gold and white Air-Way COMPLETE! This one's a real favorite of our own Robb C. [rexaircollector].

Post# 56739 , Reply# 21   12/22/2008 at 19:28 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

More of the Air-Way. I found this cleaner this complete in a thrift store 10 years ago.

Post# 56740 , Reply# 22   12/22/2008 at 19:31 (5,597 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Last one for now. It's my Hoover Celebrity QS with all matching tools, hose, and pn.

Post# 56747 , Reply# 23   12/22/2008 at 21:57 (5,597 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

i really like that swivel top with the power head. beautiful machines you have there
mike


Post# 56775 , Reply# 24   12/23/2008 at 08:41 (5,596 days old) by myvacsrock (USA)        
*Gasping for Breath*

you have some nice vacs! I'd have to say the Premier with the power nozzle is my favorite of the bunch, easily followed by the Sunbeam with power nozzle and awesome wood grained finish. Very lucky guy!

Kyle


Post# 56794 , Reply# 25   12/23/2008 at 15:04 (5,596 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
Since Chad loves vacs with pns....

Yes...Yes i do....

So now that I see the underside of the Sunbeam powernozzle, while it does look very "hooveresque", It does look as if Sunbeam came up with their own powernozzle for the Challenger vacuum cleaner. This suprises me, only becasue they really did not have that machine around that long, and they couldn't have reaped back their investment in just the few years it was on the market.

I always wondered about the Sunbeam becasue the back two wheels, and the wand neck, looked VERY similar to the Hoover PowerMatic, hence my ask for the moneyshot. It does have a beater brush though. That's interesting.

Your Air-Way Sanitizor Mark series is just a sight to behold. I have the same machine, but with a chrome powernozzle hood. The sticker that says "RugMasteR" has that beigy color intertwined in it. I wonder if that was an upgrade?? A chrome hood, or the painted one. I guess we will never know.

I had several of those Hoover Celebrity canisters over the years. My very favorite was the baby blue and chrome Celebrity Elite series with the earlier PowerMatic II head with headlight. I had a later green one like yours, and then a grey one with the two speed powernozzle, that I ended up sending onto Jeff Parker. Aparantly he has two, becasue one of them one best of something at a previous convention.

I've never clarified if it was his machine, or the one that I sent him. In a way it really doesn't matter.

I am unsure as to why I have never kept any of my Celebrities. They are super powerful, and still clean like no tomorrow. I guess as you age you learn what to give, and not to give. I do know that the blue one needed a new motor , and it sat under the basement stairs at the old house for quite some time. After I moved out, and went back to get it a few months later...the ex (ahem) must have thrown it out...becasue it was gone.

Good batch of machines tho.

Finally, I DO remember that the Princess models of Filter Queens were I believe made for the vacuum stores, and remember that creme and tomato soup color combo. Of course the ones I remember the best are the all grey models with like the 10 ft. hose. I've had one or two Princess's over the years. Again a machine I let go of...

Oh well...


Chad


Post# 56795 , Reply# 26   12/23/2008 at 15:22 (5,596 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
Did Sunbeam make a full sized upright.,......????

Brian,

To answer your question, Sunbeam DID offer a full sized upright thruought most of the 1970's. Several variations were put out, nut most of them were nothing more than rebagdged Singer Twin-fan uprights from the same period.

Some were single speed, some were two speed. Some had a Cord Reel, and some did not. Some were wild and funky colored, some were not.

This is mine that I was given by David Cibrian at the convention in August. I went thru the thing fine tooth comb style, and now it's on perm. display at my apartment.

Heres a few shots of it...


Post# 56796 , Reply# 27   12/23/2008 at 15:23 (5,596 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
second pic...

2.

Post# 56797 , Reply# 28   12/23/2008 at 15:23 (5,596 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
third pic...

3.-

Post# 56798 , Reply# 29   12/23/2008 at 15:25 (5,596 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
And a full on shot.......

This machine is two speed, with a two position height adjustment. Uses regular Singer/Kenmore SUB1 bags, or of course uses F&G bags thru Eureka. I have a Arm and Hammer F&G in there now. It's actually kinda neat.

And it cleans and grooms very well.


Post# 56804 , Reply# 30   12/23/2008 at 16:37 (5,596 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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WOW,,how cool,,,ive never seen a Sunbeam Upright like this before,,,thank you for posting!

Post# 56811 , Reply# 31   12/23/2008 at 18:01 (5,596 days old) by electroluxxxx (……)        

chad a quick question

how well do the arm and hammer bags work?? I have heard that they clog up quicker because of the baking soda that is in them.
is this true?
Mike


Post# 56841 , Reply# 32   12/23/2008 at 23:01 (5,596 days old) by methodistbill ()        

You gotta love Ugly Betty! She reminds me of the ugly puppy I kept from a litter because I couldn't give him away. He grew up to be a really cute dog and is the best pooch I've ever had! I'll bet Betty is that way too! She really is cute -- kind of quirky -- in the "60s Vibe" sort of way. LOL! But my favorite in your cool collection is the Hoover Celebrity. Thanks for sharing your collection.

Post# 56842 , Reply# 33   12/23/2008 at 23:03 (5,596 days old) by methodistbill ()        
Not Betty but Grazellda

Oops! I was talking about Grazellda in the previous post! What a looker!

Post# 56843 , Reply# 34   12/23/2008 at 23:20 (5,596 days old) by swingette ()        

Chad, isnt the paint and body on that Sunbeam in great condition, considering how beat down the innards were?

Post# 56845 , Reply# 35   12/23/2008 at 23:37 (5,596 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Ive never used or owned an Airway (wish i could have!) , but Someone once told me the RugMaster power nozzles (such as this one), were not near as powerful as they looked,,and the brush roll was thin and wimpy,,,is this true or no?
Thanks much for showing your collection!

BTW, are Airway bags still avalible?
Also, what are the controls on the front of the Sunbeam ?
What were they for, and what did they do?
Are the Sunbeam bags simular to an Electrolux tank of the time?


Post# 56853 , Reply# 36   12/24/2008 at 07:13 (5,595 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Brian, the brush roll in the Rugmaster is fair, but I've seen better. The controls on the front of the Sunbeam are for adjusting the suction, and while the bags are similar to Lux bags, they won't quite interchange.

Post# 56886 , Reply# 37   12/24/2008 at 13:23 (5,595 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
Replies.....

Re: Arm and Hammer Bags,

I really don't find them that bad. Of course I very seldom fill up an F&G bag to any appreciable amount. In many cases it puts too much strain on the zippers, and in these old machines with the orig. bags, I rather not push it. It took me 5 yers to find another gold brocade boxtop bag to replace the one with the busted zipper on my Eureka Golden PowerTouch model 2082 for example. What I like is that they do not SMELL like shoes/moldy /mildewey scent after vacuuming a time or two with them. And considering I use these machines infrequently, that's a good thing. Keeps the machine fresh...

Re: Sunbeam Upright,

David, this machine wasn't bad at all, I mean it's not beat down at all. I cleaned out the motor housing, which was full of fluff, which is very common with these machines. I greased up the bearings, and got a NOS brushroller from Morrison's in Canton Ohio. It runs like new. But you're right...that machine shines like a new penny. Whoever had it before us, must have not enjoyed it, or liked her or his earlier machine better. Cause this thing diddn't get that much use.

Re: Rugmaster Nozzles,

I feel IMHO that the powerbrush in the original Rugmasters was no better or worse that many of it's contemporaries. The orig. PN used like on Brian's machine, and like the one I have buzzed quite alot. Mine sounds like a motorcycle puttering along. I think for grooming, it does leave something to be desired, but so does the PN1 I have on my 1205. I think that the second to the last one....the one that was made for them by douglas was a far worse powernozzle in terms of cleaning ability than any of it's contemporaries.
Again MHO. The comapny did much better with the Hayden/Whirlpool/Kenmore/Panasonic double Beater brush head that they used on the Centurion and The TG anniversary edition...and was also available as an upgrade, and the Sani-Clean.

My few cents here....



Post# 56920 , Reply# 38   12/24/2008 at 22:45 (5,595 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Thank you for your help,,,you guys are excellent! I love learning about old vacs i wish i could have owned back in the day! Id have a larger collection, but just dont have the room to store them,,thats why its fun seeing all of your collections!

Post# 353399 , Reply# 39   6/7/2016 at 11:28 (2,873 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Toby, question about your gold rugmaster. I have the same Mark V but mine has a chrome rugmaster. Was there just a change in color of the rugmaster or does mine go to a different model?

Post# 353415 , Reply# 40   6/7/2016 at 16:30 (2,873 days old) by human (Pines of Carolina)        
Is that my old Eureka?!?

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I normally wouldn't bother replying to a resurrected eight-year-old thread, but that orange Eureka in reply #7 looks absolutely freakin' IDENTICAL to the one I used to have that had been my grandmother's. My (now ex-) wife made me get rid of it after her daughter vacuumed up dry cat food with it and somehow managed to get pieces of it lodged in the motor, which produced a horrible racket. Since I couldn't fix it in a minute or less, out it went.

Seriously, I just can't help but wonder if that's my old machine because the chronology almost seems to fit as well. The poster, GE1969, stated he had picked it up at a thrift store some three or four years earlier, which would have been pretty close to when I would have taken mine—under duress, mind you—to the Goodwill store in Mount. Airy, N.C. in the summer of 2003. While I can't prove it's the same machine and wouldn't ever dream of asking for it back even if I could prove it, I'd like to think that it is and thus take some small comfort in the idea, no matter how far-fetched and fanciful, that it has found a good home with someone who truly appreciates it.


Post# 353501 , Reply# 41   6/8/2016 at 15:44 (2,872 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Hey Phillip! I really don't know. I've seen both with the same vac. Human, I picked the Eureka up at a thrift store here in Georgia and no funny noises, so it's probably not the same. Toby G.

Post# 353513 , Reply# 42   6/8/2016 at 23:28 (2,872 days old) by delaneymeegan (Mary Richards lived here)        

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I currently have the orange Eureka Prince with pn.   It has the original hose, unlike the one in this post.  Mine needs the inside plate primed and painted.   It still has the original price tag from a department store.  I got it from a seller in Rockford, IL.

 

It was $119.  The tag is staying on.

 

AND

a few months back I saw another of the same model on Ebay, from a seller in Wisconsin.


Post# 353517 , Reply# 43   6/9/2016 at 06:13 (2,871 days old) by vacerator (Macomb Michigan)        
Delaney, I like

the Eureka original powerteam hose hand grip. Unfortunately, both of mine are not.
Had I had them much sooner than later, I'd have used silicone caulk on the tiny cracks before they got to be large ones.
Why Eureka didn't make more of the original style, or changed it is questionable. It seems like an extra few inches of vinyl cladding over the metal handle elbow couldn't have cost that much.
They look more stylish, and made it easier to manuver the power nozzle.



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