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Headlight on SEB236 power nozzle
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Post# 56057   12/11/2008 at 06:49 (5,613 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I have a Miele Capricorn with the SEB236 power nozzle. A couple of weeks ago I've started having problems with the headlight. When the power nozzle is turned on the headlight stays off. Then after pushing the nozzle back and forth a few times the light will come on but then flash on and off as I move the nozzle forwards and backwards. Any one have any ideas what could be wrong?

Thanks.
Gary


Post# 56058 , Reply# 1   12/11/2008 at 07:01 (5,613 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
First guesses, as I do not have familiarity with Miele or th

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Either a loose connection somewhere - take it apart and tighten every screw and use a small pick to bump out the contacts in the bulb socket - that could be it. Happens all the time with the Hoover upright motor unit mounted lamp socket Or is it an LED?

If it is a filament lamp it is sometimes possible that the filament breaks away but will still contact over bumps, causing the blinking. New bulb needed.
Good luck, Gary.

Dave


Post# 56060 , Reply# 2   12/11/2008 at 08:42 (5,613 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I think it is a fluorescent bulb because it always took a second or 2 before the light came on when the power nozzle was turned on.

I'll have to take it apart.

Gary


Post# 56076 , Reply# 3   12/11/2008 at 16:44 (5,613 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        
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I've serviced a 236 powernozzle at the vacuum store I work at one day a week... It's a great powernozzle, but it's a beast to work on.

There is a fluorescent bulb in it - perhaps the bulb is just loose? But, along with a fluorescent bulb, there's also a ballast (that's why the thing is so heavy).

From what I remember, you have to be careful taking the height adjustment mechanism out - as there's a spring or something that can fly out if you're not careful.

Hope that helps.

~Fred


Post# 56096 , Reply# 4   12/12/2008 at 06:38 (5,612 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Thanks for the info Fred. I am going to try and tackle it this weekend. I hope the ballast isn't the problem. I've only had the vac a couple of years and I purchased it new.

Gary


Post# 56101 , Reply# 5   12/12/2008 at 10:35 (5,612 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
You also may want to check the.....

Gary,

You said it comes on after pushing it back and forth a few times, then once it (does) come on it flickers on and off?

Hmmn. Well Fred is quite right about checking the bulb and if it's seated properly ( they have and do get misadjusted). I would just twist the bulb between your thumb and forefinger to make sure it's right you can go either clockwise, or counterclockwise. You can actually feel when it's right on. There is a definite "Stop" when it's right. , and if your facing the rear of the powernozzle, (with the cover off of it), you should also see over on the right hand side towards the corner a small silver "starter". Make sure that has not come loose, as it has happened to powerheads in years past.

If that doesn't correct it, you will need to undo the rest of the nozzle, and personally I wouldn't do that myself if I was not sure of my abilities. It's not pleasant to go any further without a manual, or some experience to go by.

If you wish to contuinue, beneath the plastic cover, you will find the rest of the wiring, which will need to be checked for proper connection, and continuity. I would have a digital "multi-meter" to check for proper continuity between the wires and the junctions.

Taking apart this powernozzle is not fun. It's possibly the most difficult one out on the market. It's not un-doable, but I'm just giveing you a STRONG fairwarning, that you either will give up, and take it to your Miele dealer, curse and swear like you've never before until you get it right, or worse you will break it further.

All of these things have happened in just the last year alone to me here at my store. Becasue customers were trying to save a buck...and fix it themselves.

And you have a Cparicorn? You have a bumper to bumper one year warranty... Just take it in and let someone do it. Why tear out your own hair, when that's unescesary. If it happens to be out of warranty contact Miele directly, and stomp your foot. Many times they will to kepp the peace...help you and maybe pay for parts, and you...just have to foot the labor.

Hey it's that or worse a whole new nozzle @ $250.00

I'm not wanting to scare you, just letting you know that this shouldbe fully thought out before you go "into the valley". If you do i will help you if I can.

You can e-mail me directly if you;'d like.


Chad

Ann Arbor Michigan


Post# 56128 , Reply# 6   12/12/2008 at 20:33 (5,612 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Hi Chad,

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I think the warranty is over since I've had the vac about 2 years. Also, there is no Miele dealer in this city and the closet one is in Toronto - 3 hours away. How do I go about getting at the bulb without taking the entire thing apart?

Gary


Post# 56225 , Reply# 7   12/13/2008 at 21:04 (5,611 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
Photos of SEB236

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I purchased my Miele Capricorn with SEB236 Jan 2008, and love it. I had to just peek under the hood of the SEB236, and while I was examing it, I took some photos. I really did not think this was a very difficult nozzle to take apart. I am posting some pictures for all to see. I love nozzles with the cogged belts!

Post# 56226 , Reply# 8   12/13/2008 at 21:05 (5,611 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
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Post# 56228 , Reply# 10   12/13/2008 at 21:07 (5,611 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
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Post# 56229 , Reply# 11   12/13/2008 at 21:08 (5,611 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
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Post# 56230 , Reply# 12   12/13/2008 at 21:09 (5,611 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
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Post# 56231 , Reply# 13   12/13/2008 at 21:16 (5,611 days old) by vacfanatic (Omaha, NE)        
Motor Cooling Design

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Note the air-flow channel built in the grey top cover. Air flow is drawn in from around the motor into the air stream going through the nozzle. This cools the motor, surely extending it's life. I generally vacuum for about 45 minutes to 1 hour at a time, and the nozzle never gets warm. Stays cool to the touch.

Post# 56232 , Reply# 14   12/13/2008 at 22:04 (5,611 days old) by hoovercelebrity (Germany)        
But...

Did you get it back together? LoL

Just kidding...


From what I recall when I took one apart - make sure the height adjustment pedal stays in place... if it comes out, it's tricky to get back in/line something up.

Also - make sure none of the wires are pinched when you put it back together. Pay attention to how the wires lay as you take it apart.

It is a pretty powerhead!
Thanks for the pictures!

~Fred


Post# 56252 , Reply# 15   12/14/2008 at 10:45 (5,610 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Yes thanks for the pics. I am going to tackle taking it apart this afternoon.

Gary


Post# 56264 , Reply# 16   12/14/2008 at 18:43 (5,610 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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OK so I took it apart tonight. Took me awhile to figure out how to get the power nozzle to turn on when the cover is off! LOL The bulb didn't seem loose in the sockets but I took it out put it back in, it seems tight. I also took the white cylindrical thing to the left out and put it back in. It seems tight also. When I turn the vacuum on that cylindrical thing has a light inside of it that flashes? Is that the starter? I got it so that the fluorescent light came on and stayed so I put the cover back on and all the screws back in the place but now the light won't come on at all. The socket at each end of the fluorescent light seem kind of loose so I think that may be the problem but there doesn't seem to be a way to make it fit tigher.

Gary



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