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Goblin Timeline - HELP!!!!
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Post# 50163   8/31/2008 at 12:21 (5,687 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi guys. I've decided to try working on a time line for Goblin cleaners. In going through the pamphlets, copies of Which, copies of ads etc that I have this is what I come up with so far. I have listed the machines that I know were in production that year (of course there were more but I havnt anything that lists them) and added in the models where ever I could in brackets but some (like the Wizard) have several models and I dont know which came out when as they dont list the number in the ads. Some of the machines will probably have been produced earlier or later too but this is all I can prove.

Please jump in and add anything you can. I'll keep updating this. As well I'd like to try to put up pictures of the various models.

Here's what I've got so far:

1921 - BVC ? (1st upright - from co history)
1923/4 ? - BVC Turbinet (1st tank type - from co history)
1926 - Goblin Wizard (1st Goblin - co history)
1931 - Major, Clean Sweep (23)
1933 - Clean Sweep (23), Magic Wand, Reliance, Wizard
1934 - Clean Sweep (23), Wizard
1936 - Triumph (45), Major
1937 - Triumph (45), Ace - 1 ft wheel (55), Triumph (45), Clean Sweep (23)
1938 - Triumph (45), Wizard
1939 - Clean Sweep (23), Monarch, Ace - 1 ft wheel (55), Wizard
1940 - Wizard, Monarch, Ace - 1 ft wheel (55), Triumph (45), Clean Sweep (23)
1946 - Ace - 2 ft wheels
1947 - Ace - 2 ft wheels
1948 - Triumph (46), Ace
1950 - Triumph (46), Ace
1954 - Regal (38)
1960 - Ace (G71)

Wizard models that I have seen so far were 30, 31 and G41

Based on this I can come up with:

BVC Turbinett - 1923/4 - ?
Goblin Wizard (30, 31, G41) - 1926 - 1960
Goblin Marvel ?
Goblin Brownie ?
Goblin Clean Sweep (31) - 1931-1940
Goblin Major - 1931 - 1936
Goblin Magic Wand - 1933
Goblin Reliance - 1933
Goblin Triumph (45) - 1936 - 1940
Goblin Ace - 1 ft wheel (55) - 1937 - 1940
Goblin Monarch - 1939 - 1940
Goblin Ace - 2 ft wheels - 1946 - 1950
Goblin Triumph (46) - 1948 - 1950
Goblin model 39
Goblin Regal (38) - 1954
Goblin Ace (G71) - 1960



I'll start the pictures with the Goblin Clean Sweep model 23




Post# 50164 , Reply# 1   8/31/2008 at 12:27 (5,687 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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The Goblin Major (also from my collection)

Post# 50165 , Reply# 2   8/31/2008 at 12:35 (5,687 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Goblin Wizard Model 31 (from the net)

Post# 50167 , Reply# 3   8/31/2008 at 12:50 (5,687 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Goblin Monarch (from the net)

Post# 50433 , Reply# 4   9/3/2008 at 10:03 (5,685 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Goblin Triumph model 45(from the net) - Doesnt anyone, besides me, have any information on these machines??????????????

Post# 50445 , Reply# 5   9/3/2008 at 13:47 (5,684 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        

Hello Doug,

1921 BVC Upright. I've seen on ebay a period add for one of these along with a Turbinet; it was very similar in style to a suction only EUREKA or HAWKINS style of cleaner.

The Triumph I saw about 3 years ago in a genuine catalogue of 1934 along with a Magic wand and Clean Sweep all fitted with a Vactric De-luxe top swivel style of carpet tool.

On Sunday a friend actually gave me a Turbinet type of cleaner which is just like a long thin turbinet, 17 inches long from suction opening to the end where the motor housing / couling protrudes, thats 3 1/2 long. Dark red crocodile body covering with round brass / black plate 'GOBLIN ELECTRIC CLEANER - BVC PRODUCT'. No model no, no wattage rating. Sliding on/ off switch at end of motor couling. Could this be a BROWNIE or MARVEL ?

I know form info from the London Science Museum that the Major was 350 watts and was £15 gs circa 1935.

The Reliance, I am given to under stand was somewhere between the Triumph and the earliest 'one front, two rear wheeled' Ace.

Sorry I can't offer more.

Regards.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO watsonw's LINK


Post# 50446 , Reply# 6   9/3/2008 at 13:52 (5,684 days old) by 74simon ()        

Interesting project Doug, which 'Which' reports have you seen? I've got the 1960, 63, 66 and 68 ones if you haven't seen them.

Si


Post# 50470 , Reply# 7   9/3/2008 at 17:48 (5,684 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Oh, what wonderful machines! Such high styling. Hope you can turn up more specimens from this company!! Is my understanding correct that Goblin was still in business into at least the mid 1960s?



Post# 50497 , Reply# 8   9/3/2008 at 21:39 (5,684 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Walter:

This ad is from the 1920's and I believe its the machine they refer to as the Turbinet although its never actually named except as a Goblin Electric Cleaner. If its the same as yours please post a picture of it as I'd love to see the actual machine and its parts.

Thank for the additional information. That means the Magic Wand was also in production in 1934. I'll post my 1933 ad in the next posting that shows the Magic Wand, Clean Sweep, Reliance and Wizard.

Re the Brownie and Marvel - from the very poor copy of an ad that I have both of those models were even cheaper than the Wizard or Clean Sweep so were the bottom end of the line. I would not be surprised if one or both of them were hand vacs.

It appears the Reliance was the Delux machine of the time and was replaced by the Ace.

Doug


Post# 50500 , Reply# 9   9/3/2008 at 21:46 (5,684 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Si:

The only Which page I have is a copy of the 1960 one and its almost unreadable. I'd love to have copys of all of them as they would give alot of information.

Anything you have about Goblin would be a help in putting this together.

Doug

PS Walter - I cant get your link to work.

PPS - this is the 1933 line ad copy I have


Post# 50502 , Reply# 10   9/3/2008 at 21:50 (5,684 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Charlie:

Actually I believe Goblin is still in business though, like Hoover, it has been taken over and the product is not what it used to be.

This is another one that I'm not certain of. Its a Goblin model 39 which I believe was from the 1950's but I dont have an exact date for it. Again - this picture is just from the web - unfortunately its not mine.

Doug


Post# 50515 , Reply# 11   9/3/2008 at 23:23 (5,684 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Interesting to note the various similarities to the Lux XII, although this Goblin was rather more advanced in that it has wheels. Lovely machine!


Post# 50535 , Reply# 12   9/4/2008 at 06:16 (5,684 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Goblin Wizard...

Here's mine, next to my 800 for size comparison; it really is a miniscule machine! I believe mine may be the first model of Wizard (from 1926, according to your list), but I'm not 100% sure.

It was in very poor condition when I got it, and it's not much better now. It doesn't work - or at least, when current's applied to it, it doesn't run. I can't get the motor cap off because age has fused the screws into the chassis.

But still, a cute little display vac!


Post# 50536 , Reply# 13   9/4/2008 at 06:17 (5,684 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
The rug nozzle...

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Post# 50537 , Reply# 14   9/4/2008 at 06:18 (5,684 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
And the bag...

I love the leaping Goblin graphic!

Post# 50547 , Reply# 15   9/4/2008 at 08:24 (5,684 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Jack:

Thats definately either a 30 or early 31 as the nozzle connection is metal, not bakelite. Nice machine!!! Did you get the rest of the attachments with it? There should have been two brushes, a small nozzle and a wand (see below).

Doug


Post# 50566 , Reply# 16   9/4/2008 at 10:24 (5,684 days old) by vintagehoover ()        
Hi Doug,

no, sadly there were no other attachments with it, just what you see in the picture. A few other Wizards have come and gone on eBay over the years, usually making around £30 or so. I paid £9 for mine, but it was in an awful state. I've never bid on any of the others because as much as I like them, they've always clashed with an auction for something Hoover-related that I've wanted more!

I remember seeing a picture of Goblin Wizard in a newspaper article when I was little, and being fascinated at how it looked - like nothing else I'd seen at that time! Shortly after, I saw one in a museum, and decided then and there than I would one day have one of my own!

At school, my Design Technology teacher had one in mint condition suspended above his desk in his office. As I've mentioned before, he ended up giving me about 10 or so cleaners from the department, but he kept the Wizard, unfortunately.


Post# 50691 , Reply# 17   9/5/2008 at 19:41 (5,682 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)        
Goblin Wizard

I remember an episode of "The Grand", a 1997/98 series about a Manchester hotel (by one Russell T. Davies - the Dr Who producer).

In this episode, the housekeeper ordered the staff to assemble in the dining-room for a demonstration of the new vacuum cleaners. One of the staff was scared of the machines.

Later in the episode a maid cleaning a room, over-stretched the flex, which was plugged into an overhead pendant fitting. She pulled down the light fitting and a good lump of plaster!


Post# 50694 , Reply# 18   9/5/2008 at 20:41 (5,682 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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That sounds like it would have been an interesting one to see. I noticed in Are You Being Served? Again!! that the Goblin Wizard is often seen prominently in the hotel and actually used in one episode. (Yes I like the BBC shows, especially the comedies and mysteries, and have that series on DVD)

Doug


Post# 50741 , Reply# 19   9/6/2008 at 14:36 (5,681 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Just came across this on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GOBLIN-VACUUM-CLEA...

The Goblin Regal - from around 1954 if memory serves.
Doug


Post# 51108 , Reply# 20   9/10/2008 at 21:59 (5,677 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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The Triumph model G46 from around 1948-50. (pic from the net)

Post# 51109 , Reply# 21   9/10/2008 at 22:14 (5,677 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Of course I would be remiss if I didnt add the Goblin Ace (2 front wheels) 1948-1950. This was my grandmothers machine and the first one I ever had. It started my collection. I was given it, not working, when my grandmother passed away (I was 2) by the time I was 5 or 6 I had it working.



Post# 51222 , Reply# 22   9/12/2008 at 09:54 (5,676 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Ok guys - all I have is the model number for this one (29B) Anyone have any idea when it wea out or what it was called? (Picture from the net) It looks alot like the Clean Sweep but isnt the same machine. It has wheels instead of skids and another photo I have shows it with an attached cord instead of the removable one shown here. I'm thinking around 1950 but could easily be wrong.

Post# 51236 , Reply# 23   9/12/2008 at 12:40 (5,675 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        
G29/B

I could have bought a mint G29 about 10 years ago but they were asking far to much ! It was simply a longer version of the clean sweap which I am assured by a one time Goblin rep actually superceded the G23 around 1950/1 and in turn was replaced by the G39......they were all much the same power wise.
By the early 60's the 'Jubilee' range of cylinders had appeared and continued to be made in various colour schemes until the mid 70's when the range of machines and quality went to the wall.


Post# 51259 , Reply# 24   9/12/2008 at 17:11 (5,675 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Walter - Thank you very much. Did you manage to get copys of any of the Which articles done or pictures of the Turbinette?

Well - this is where I stand so far

BVC Turbinett - 1923/4 - ?
Goblin Wizard (models 30, 31, G41) - 1926 - 1960
Goblin Marvel ?
Goblin Brownie ?
Goblin Clean Sweep (model 23) - 1931-1940
Goblin Major - 1931 - 1936
Goblin Magic Wand - 1933 - 1934
Goblin Reliance - 1933
Goblin Triumph (model 45) - 1934 - 1940
Goblin Ace - 1 ft wheel (model 55) - 1937 - 1940
Goblin Monarch - 1939 - 1940
Goblin Ace - 2 ft wheels - 1946 - 1950
Goblin Triumph (model 46) - 1948 - 1950
Goblin (model 29) - 1950/51 - ?
Goblin (model 39)- 195_ - ?
Goblin Regal (model 38) - 1954 - ?
Goblin Ace (model G71) - 1960 - ?

Any idea where this one comes in or what model it is? The pic is from the web but I have seen one of these here in Canada about 10 years ago. They wanted way more than I could afford at the time for it though.


Post# 51436 , Reply# 25   9/14/2008 at 14:33 (5,673 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Walter - is this part of the Jubilee range you spoke of?

Goblin Ace model 71 from the net.

Doug


Post# 51519 , Reply# 26   9/15/2008 at 12:29 (5,672 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        

Just before I think as the Jubilee Range started about 1961, bodies in light chocolate with creme end caps.....sorry I have no brochures nor does my friend.

Post# 51707 , Reply# 27   9/18/2008 at 08:22 (5,670 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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OK - this one is a mystery machine. The lady that had it said it was bought in 1964 but never did get around to sending me a picture of the parts or the model of the machine.

Was in beautiful shape though - wish I could have afforded the shipping.


Post# 51722 , Reply# 28   9/18/2008 at 13:38 (5,669 days old) by watsonw (Newport, Shropshire, UK)        
From the 1961 Goblin price list

Jubilee model'D'shape G54 or G61 (middle range) 400 watts..ish. £14 - £20 sterling.

tools in cream plastic, no 'swivel' fixtures; carpet tool, cream plastic upper, nickel/chrome plated under plate with fixed brush strip. floor brush (wood insert with bristles around edge) upholstery and crevice tool and dusting brush (although may have been optional extras ?

Colour scheme of the range change to white body with dark greeny/blue end caps @ 1967.

Model G54/61 replaced by '451' ('G' prefix appears to have been dropped by 1971) which from memory was much the same as the 54/61.......it cost £25 in Sept 1971.


Post# 51723 , Reply# 29   9/18/2008 at 14:07 (5,669 days old) by 74simon ()        
Which magazines...

April 1960 - two models tested, the Ace G71 (£26/5/0), and the Wizard de luxe G41 (£23/8/0)

November 1963 - G14 de luxe (£13/13/0) and G72 (26/5/0), both cyliner, and the G41 upright at £25/13/5.

March 1966 - cylinders G641 (£16/17/4), G65 (£22/2/9) and G72B (£28/10/0), G41B upright £23/15/0

October 1968 - cylinders 502 (£23/14/7), 601B (£30/19/2) and 701 (£39/18/0), 102 Upright (£30)

I don't have a scanner, but I can tell you that the mystery machine seems to be the g641, the 502 uses the same body far as I can tell, but with different end caps and repositioned badge.

hope that helps a bit, I'll see what else I can dig up!


Post# 51724 , Reply# 30   9/18/2008 at 14:11 (5,669 days old) by 74simon ()        

also got these scans I did when I had a scanner, this is from a 1939 catalogue from a company called 'Sunco'

One


Post# 51725 , Reply# 31   9/18/2008 at 14:13 (5,669 days old) by 74simon ()        
Two

Guess you know these models, but it's nice to read their specs.

Post# 51726 , Reply# 32   9/18/2008 at 14:14 (5,669 days old) by 74simon ()        

three

Post# 51863 , Reply# 33   9/19/2008 at 20:53 (5,668 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Wow - thanks for all the information guys. I'm not at home at the moment and wont be for another week but I'll do the cross referencing when I get back.

Love the catalogue pages.

Please keep it coming

Doug



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