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Post# 49900 8/28/2008 at 18:32 (5,717 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes One of these Electric Suction Sweepers has come all the way from North Canton, Ohio, C/O Mr. Tom Anderson...

Post# 49901 , Reply# 1 8/28/2008 at 18:48 (5,717 days old) by myvacsrock (USA)
Checkrate/Likes *The...* 150!! I only know cuz you told me :-)

Post# 49902 , Reply# 2 8/28/2008 at 19:13 (5,717 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *lol,* that's cheating, hehehe :) You're right, it's my new - wait for it - 1935 Hoover Model 150 Cleaning Ensemble! A stable-mate for my UK Models 160 and 960. I think the only other variation of this design is the Canadian 155. I've wanted a 150 for ages, and thanks to Tom's garage sale, I have one of my own at last. I was even more pleased to discover there was a set of tools to go with it, in their original caddy, no less! I'm just waiting for the tools to turn up - hopefully they should be here tomorrow or Saturday. The 150 is going to be my next restoration project, and I can't wait to get started. I love working on these machines, they're so simple and well-constructed. I've stripped, cleaned and rebuilt 4 of these motors over the last year. Here's the new arrival with another NorCa-made Hoover. I now have 5 vacs in my collection which have come all the way from the US!

Post# 49903 , Reply# 3 8/28/2008 at 19:16 (5,717 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *Possibly for the first time...* ...American and English cousins side by side. One from North Canton, Ohio, one from Perivale, West London. I believe this is the first Model 150 in the country - at least, I'm not aware of any other collectors who have an example.

Post# 49904 , Reply# 4 8/28/2008 at 19:21 (5,717 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs)
Checkrate/Likes *Here's My 150* Pretty much all original including the bag! One of the prides of my collection. Have all the tools and caddy as well.

Post# 49905 , Reply# 5 8/28/2008 at 19:23 (5,717 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs)
Checkrate/Likes *Another* Glam shot.

Post# 49906 , Reply# 6 8/28/2008 at 19:26 (5,717 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *The biggest difference is, of course...* ...the handle bail. The 150 has the older, snap-action 'pitch-fork' style. The 160 has the new, more streamlined, integrated style. However, although the 160's may be sharper-looking, I've come to the opinion that the 150's is actually the superior design. Ok, it won't go under low furniture to the same extent, but the 160's design is very fragile, and often found broken nowadays. What I like best about the 150's handle design is that being attached towards the front of the chassis, it makes the cleaner feather-light to push - it really glides across the carpet, whereas the 160 feels a little heavier to roll along.

Post# 49907 , Reply# 7 8/28/2008 at 19:39 (5,717 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *And underneath...* Turn the cleaners upside-down and the differences between the two designs become very apparent. The 150 has mechanisms for the 'Time to Empty Signal' and 'Automatic Rug Adjuster'. The 160s underside is a lot simpler; no bag check indicator, and 'self-levelling' wheels, as on the models the 160 replaced. The broad front wheels rode along the carpet pile, while the narrow rear wheels sunk in a little, raising the nozzle off the floor to roughly the appropriate height. When inserting the 160s tool converter, you press down on the rear of the cleaner. The converter holds a little lever down, retracting the spring-mounted rear wheels and keeping the nozzle off the carpet.

Post# 49908 , Reply# 8 8/28/2008 at 20:44 (5,717 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)
Checkrate/Likes *Spot the new arrival* Jack, Thanks so much for the pictures. It was so interesting seeing the difference between the two machines. You are so correct about the handles. I never appreciated the difference until I was visiting a collector friend in Ohio and he had me use one of his older Hoovers with bail handle. The machine was so well balanced. It just glided over the carpet.I think it was maybe a model 26. Very different from the clunky plastic Hoovers of today. Rob

Post# 49910 , Reply# 9 8/28/2008 at 21:13 (5,717 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)
Checkrate/Likes Congratulations on your new member of you Hoover family. It is interesting to the differences in the 150 and 160. Norm

Post# 49915 , Reply# 10 8/29/2008 at 00:01 (5,717 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)
Checkrate/Likes *Congratulations On Your New Arrival!!* And thank you for sharing the pix. And as Rob and Norm noted, the comparison between the 150 and 160 is quite interesting. And you're getting the cleaning tools as well? That's the frosting on the cake!! It was a pleasure meeting you at the Convention. Jeff

Post# 49925 , Reply# 11 8/29/2008 at 05:10 (5,716 days old) by 74simon ()
Checkrate/Likes *makes us Brits feel cheated!* Not having all the bells and whistles on our 160! I'm glad she arrived safely though, and look forward to seeing the finished beastie. It is remarkable how different machines on both sides of the Atlantic were, despite their superficial resemblances. And it's great you've got the tools, the whole ensemble couldn't have gone to a better home! Si

Post# 49939 , Reply# 12 8/29/2008 at 07:35 (5,716 days old) by 1066hoovers ()
Checkrate/Likes *Love your 150 and 160 vintagehoover!* The 160 was one of my dream finds some years ago � it was sitting in a collectables shop in East London (complete with original 160 bag � Hoover lettering with blue lines under) but it wasn�t one of the collectables! The guy said they had found it in the basement when they moved in and they used it to Hoover the carpet. �It doesn�t work very well� he said! I asked whether I could have it if I replaced it with a fully-serviced �modern� Hoover and he agreed. (you can imagine how I felt!). 2 weeks later I arrived at the shop with a fully serviced Hoover Senior 652A 2-tone grey (they were more common then!) and I took the 160 away. I can see your rare commercial Model 925 in the first photo. A beautiful machine. I wonder why Hoover only put the art deco styling �wings�on the body of the 925 and not the 800. Maybe it was to do with the thickness of the metal casting � I presume the 925 is a heavier machine and the casting is thicker thus allowing for the detailing. Best wishes, Jon

Post# 49940 , Reply# 13 8/29/2008 at 07:49 (5,716 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *Hi Jon,* very interested to hear from you, since I see you live in Surrey as well! Where abouts are you? I live in Woking! If you ever felt like visiting sometime you'd be more than welcome. The 925's wings denote it as a commercial model, the most deluxe and expensive cleaner money could buy - they were also used on the 900, which the 925 replaced. The 800 was just the standard domestic model, so it didn't get the extra styling touch of the wings.

Post# 49945 , Reply# 14 8/29/2008 at 09:01 (5,716 days old) by hoover1060 ()
Checkrate/Likes *150's chassis* is floating...the wheel carriage is completely separate from the base, for the rug adjuster mechanism. Glad it arrived safe Jack, I know you were thrilled to get that!

Post# 50287 , Reply# 15 9/1/2008 at 17:28 (5,713 days old) by 1066hoovers ()
Checkrate/Likes *Hi Jack* Thanks for the invite. Would love to but a bit snowed under at the moment. Hopefully in October! In the meantime here's a photo of my Model 160, Serial No. A.19571 along with the toolkit.

Post# 50408 , Reply# 16 9/2/2008 at 19:30 (5,712 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *Jon,* that's a stunning 160! Where do you get your cleaners from? Both this and the 638 in the picture you posted - at least, I think it was you! - look brand new! Happily, my 150 tools have now turned up. Here's the complete Ensemble:

Post# 50409 , Reply# 17 9/2/2008 at 19:33 (5,712 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *And ready to go!* Along with some related reading material! Sorry about the artlessness of the photos; I'm waiting until after I've done the restoration to take some really nice photos of the cleaner.

Post# 50455 , Reply# 18 9/3/2008 at 15:09 (5,711 days old) by 1066hoovers ()
Checkrate/Likes *Nice to have the whole 150 ensemble Jack* That hose looks in really good condition. Mine is a bit stiff and leaks like crazy! I got the 160 from a Hoover repair man in Basingstoke about 6 years ago. It had the toolkit with it. Its quite an early one. The blue band doesn't say 'ensemble', it says 'Model 160', which I'd never seen before. Heres a pic.

Post# 50456 , Reply# 19 9/3/2008 at 15:13 (5,711 days old) by 1066hoovers ()
Checkrate/Likes *Another pic* with my original 1938 display card! A bits missing off the top. Im sure it said 'Cleaning'.

Post# 50460 , Reply# 20 9/3/2008 at 16:21 (5,711 days old) by 1066hoovers ()
Checkrate/Likes Just to avoid confusion, my first 160 came from London. This one is the 3rd Ive had! Yes, the 638 is mine too. It started off this whole Hoover thing over 15 years ago. I found it in the basement of a vac shop in Hampton Wick. It was an amazing place - must post a pic when I get round to scanning it.

Post# 50665 , Reply# 21 9/5/2008 at 14:39 (5,709 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Hoover 160* Jack...the blue band on your 160 states "By Appointment." Does that mean it was by appointment to Her Majesty The Queen of England? Also...if you don't mind revealing, what you use to produce such a fine shine on the helmets of your 150/160's ? Thanks in advance, Bernie

Post# 50666 , Reply# 22 9/5/2008 at 15:12 (5,709 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *My 150* Well...I guess I'll post mine too ! ;-D I've had this vac for several years and love it a lot, but it has no attachments. I think it's pretty much all original. I am on the lookout for a proper set of attachments for it, if anyone would be able to help. Thanks --Bernie

Post# 50667 , Reply# 23 9/5/2008 at 15:26 (5,709 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)
Checkrate/Likes *The Royal Crest.......* Hey Bernie The 160 was indeed by Royal Appointment but to His Majesty King George 6th- Our present Queens Dad ;). Seamus

Post# 50672 , Reply# 24 9/5/2008 at 16:05 (5,709 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *How nice !* Surely The Royal Family would know vacuums of quality ! ;-D (forgive me Hyacinth Bucket)

Post# 50674 , Reply# 25 9/5/2008 at 16:14 (5,709 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Vacuums of Quality !* "I must invite the Hoovers over for one of my Candlelight Buffet Suppers with the good Royal Doulton Periwinkle China"

Post# 50693 , Reply# 26 9/5/2008 at 20:01 (5,709 days old) by rolls_rapide (-)
Checkrate/Likes *Royal Warrant: By Appointment to...* I always thought that the Royal Warrant made appliances look sooo much more elegant... but maybe that's just the snob in me! LOL! Probably one reason that I, personally, never took to Goblin cleaners.

Post# 50719 , Reply# 27 9/6/2008 at 08:11 (5,708 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *The Royal Warrant* Indeed!! It does produce the desired elegance to those of who know quality and breeding ! LOL......

Post# 50731 , Reply# 28 9/6/2008 at 11:24 (5,708 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *Bernie...* ...that's a beautiful Model 150, it looks to be in pristine condition! Was the 150 made in 2 colour schemes? The handle of yours is black, and the underlining of the script on the bag looks to be an aqua green, whereas in the pictures Fred Nelson posted above, it's more of an dark lilac, with blue bag underlining. As for the shine on the hoods of my machines - nothing more elaborate than simple furniture polish and a soft duster! Good lighting helps to bring out the shine as well.

Post# 50733 , Reply# 29 9/6/2008 at 12:40 (5,708 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Thank you, Jack* I have found that the fan housing/rug noggle, or base, on the 150's can vary in color very slightly depending on the year that they were produced. The original color on mine is sort of a lilac grey. As to 150 bags: The proper 150 bags on the US models, all appear to be underlined in a standard blue. My bag is actually off of a very late 1938 model 300 that was purchased from the original owner. The 300 was sort of the junior machine to the 150. Much the same as the 450 being the junior machine to the 800. Long story short, everyone at the VCCC convention, five years ago in Milwaukee, swore that I had mistakenly hung a 150 bag on my 300. So the story goes.... I replaced the bojack bag on my 150 with the 300 bag, and that's why you see the unusual 300 green underlining rather than the proper blue. Otherwise, but not totally, the bags are very similar and close enough to the ordinary eye. As is often jokingly said here in the states "it's close enough for government work." --Bernie

Post# 50734 , Reply# 30 9/6/2008 at 13:18 (5,708 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *Model 300* I have one of those! Again, probably the only one in UK. It was a total wreck when I got it, but it's in the process of being restored. It runs perfectly. I've seen at least 4 variations of the Model 300 now, they vary in trim and bag design.

Post# 50735 , Reply# 31 9/6/2008 at 13:29 (5,708 days old) by vintagehoover ()
Checkrate/Likes *Model 875* The very rare Model 875 - sold in British Empire countries only. Made for around 6 months in 1938 - the serial number is 4 digits long! It was a stop-gap model, sold alongside the 160 until the brand new 262 Cleaning Ensemble was introduced. It used the 800-series chassis, but had a 1-speed 310w motor, and was painted, like the 160/262. The motor cap was bakelite, not metal - some late 475s also used this cap. It was the mid-range model between the Junior 375 and the 160 Cleaning Ensemble. These are VERY rare! This particular one came off eBay. According to the seller, who delivered it himself, his mother had bought it, used it for 2 years, then put it in the attic because she was given a cylinder cleaner (he couldn't remember what it was!), which she preferred. So it's only had about 2 years use in it's lifetime, and the motor sounds like new: CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK

Post# 50745 , Reply# 32 9/6/2008 at 15:07 (5,708 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Just viewed your video* Jack...you must have the cleanest carpets in the UK! ;-D You've got me going now..which means that I am going into my closets to unearth a series of old vacs that have been sitting in there far too long collecting dust. Just hope no one knocks on my door while I am in the process. They'll think I have lost my mind for sure. I'll find my 300, now with the more ordinary type 300 bag, photograph, and post it. Looks like the Royal Warrant is on all of the British Hoovers including your rare model 875.

Post# 50746 , Reply# 33 9/6/2008 at 15:19 (5,708 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Hoover 300* I would think this unusual for a 70 year old vacuum, but this old girl still has some of the original packaging paper on her stem featuring the UL & Good Housekeeping seals of approval.

Post# 50747 , Reply# 34 9/6/2008 at 15:22 (5,708 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Hoover 300* Check out this deco plug.

Post# 50748 , Reply# 35 9/6/2008 at 15:50 (5,708 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Electrical* I suppose you use some type of an electrical step-down adapter to operate US models in the UK? Two very old Air-Way Sanitary Systems (below)

Post# 50835 , Reply# 36 9/7/2008 at 21:16 (5,707 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *Jack - Some photos of the Air-Ways* Twin-motor Air-Way Sanitary System c.1926

Post# 50836 , Reply# 37 9/7/2008 at 21:19 (5,707 days old) by truckerx (Palm Springs, CA)
Checkrate/Likes *One more....* Air-Way Sanitary System - suction only c.1922

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