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Post# 3781   11/10/2006 at 19:17 (2,849 days old) by compactelectra (Tarantula Arms)        

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Well, another box just arrived on my doorstep. I have been good for a while and have stayed away from Ebay, but two machines that I really wanted just came up and I couldn't resist. The first was the green Kenmore Ken-Cart that I showed in a prior thread, but this one came today. A machine similar to this one was the first vacuum cleaner I remember. It was my mom's and the one she was using when I was two so she couldn't hear me screaming in the basement when I stuck my hand in the wringer washer. Quite a precocious child, huh? Her's was a lower model than this one and I remember it having lousy suction. This one, from Kenny Smith in Indiana is a beaut and has fabulous suction. It is complete and all original. The suction on the machine end is great, but the hose does leak a bit. I was amazed at how unmarred the machine is. Check it out for yourself. Front glam shot.




Post# 3782 , Reply# 1   11/10/2006 at 19:20 (2,849 days old) by compactelectra (Tarantula Arms)        
Back Shot

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Complete except for the de-mothing attachment. And all original! Hardly a scratch on her.

Post# 3783 , Reply# 2   11/10/2006 at 19:25 (2,849 days old) by compactelectra (Tarantula Arms)        
Sears Kenmore Ad Sheet

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For this Ken-Cart

Post# 3784 , Reply# 3   11/10/2006 at 19:29 (2,849 days old) by compactelectra (Tarantula Arms)        
Here Is The Other One

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The green Ken-Cart which was slightly later and updated. This one has a replacement hose (which I will use when I vacuum with the brown one) and a replacement cord. The dusting brush is also missing, but still a great machine nonetheless. I should have posted pics before I cleaned and polished it up. The bag came almost full of dirt. The bag was run through the Maytag Neptune and came out beautiful. The aluminum polished up real well on the polishing wheel. Charles Richard, you must post pointers on polishing, I don't think that I quite have it down.

Post# 3785 , Reply# 4   11/10/2006 at 20:06 (2,849 days old) by convertible68 ()        

Fred, BEAUTIFUL vintage Commanders, especially that teal/green Ken-Cart; thanks for sharing. Was the one your mom had on a cart, or just the "horizontal tank" version?

How many of those Kenmo's do you have, since these new beauties have arrived? Hopefully you'll soon find the elusive TOL Lady Kenmore canister, with power nozzle no less!


Post# 3786 , Reply# 5   11/10/2006 at 20:27 (2,849 days old) by compactelectra (Tarantula Arms)        
Another Kenmore

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This one is a Kenmore Saturn. It won "Most Historical Value" at the St. Louis Convention. It is from the late 50's and unusual since it has a totally integrated electric hose. Tania had the Lady Kenmore match to this and sold it. I should have grabbed that one when I had the chance!

Post# 3787 , Reply# 6   11/10/2006 at 20:32 (2,849 days old) by compactelectra (Tarantula Arms)        
My Mom's

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Was the horizontal version. I am sure my dad wouldn't have popped for the fancy model. You can see it on Charles Lester's site at www.137.com... at the Kenmore page at www.137.com/museum/sears.htm.... It is the top one in the Commander secton For those who haven't seen Charles Richard Lester's site, it is well worth the visit!!

Post# 3789 , Reply# 7   11/10/2006 at 21:43 (2,849 days old) by hygiene903 (Galion, OH)        

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WOW!! What a great pair of Kennys! My folks also had a brown horizontal model they used in the basement and for cleaning out the cars when I was a kid. But ours was a little older yet. Everything that is chrome on yours was burgandy on theirs--the handle & switch, side trim & clamps, and the "nosecone" were all burgandy, just like your attachments. It also had a few more attachments-an upholstery brush, similar to the floor brush but smaller, and a felt floor polisher, both of which slid onto the upholstery nozzle. It also had an attachment box which could be stored flat or hung up. I still remember the prrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeennn sound it made when you turned it on!!!
Jeff


Post# 3795 , Reply# 8   11/11/2006 at 04:53 (2,848 days old) by sudsman ()        
Fred

VERY nice!!!!!!

Post# 3797 , Reply# 9   11/11/2006 at 09:17 (2,848 days old) by luxg ()        

Oh Fred, those are just to beautiful!! I can't wait to see them in person. The brown Kenmore on the cart brings back many memories for me as well. I knew two people that had them but of course I could never "play" with them. Also knew someone that had just the tank model. The Ken-Cart is a beautiful machine as well. Thanks so much for sharing those wonderful machines with us.

Post# 3800 , Reply# 10   11/11/2006 at 09:21 (2,848 days old) by myvacsrock (Adrian, MI)        

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I too am crazy for kenmores!! MY DREAM VACUUM IS A KENMORE DUO-POWER!!!!!

Kyle


Post# 3804 , Reply# 11   11/11/2006 at 10:45 (2,848 days old) by charles~richard ()        
Kencart

I remember one family who had one of these. I never saw it used but saw it standing in a corner of their garage several times, where they always kept it. It was the brown version with the silver "nose cone" and light tan woven hose. I think the design of this machine is just fabulous and was clearly inspired by the shape of the atomic bomb! I also like the start-up "chirp" which to me sounds more like "virrrrryyrt" !



Post# 3806 , Reply# 12   11/11/2006 at 12:29 (2,848 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Did somebody say Kenmore?

How about a pair of Lady Kenmores, Sears' Best Powermate models 2699 and 2799 from 1976 and 1977

Post# 3807 , Reply# 13   11/11/2006 at 12:32 (2,848 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
If a canister is not your thing...

you may find this 1966 Duo-Power upright with attachments more to your liking...

Post# 3808 , Reply# 14   11/11/2006 at 12:33 (2,848 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
They called it duo power because..

it has a two speed/twin fan motor, which gives it very good tool suction.
Here is how the hose attaches...


Post# 3809 , Reply# 15   11/11/2006 at 13:37 (2,848 days old) by compactelectra (Tarantula Arms)        
Kenmore Ken Kart Instruction Manual

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OK - Check it out. I have added the Instruction Manual for the Kenmore Ken Kart to the Owner's Manual Section.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO compactelectra's LINK


Post# 3814 , Reply# 16   11/11/2006 at 14:29 (2,848 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

I have the matching green 75 Lady Kenmore Duo Power upright self propelled. At least I hope I still do because when we did the big cross country move two months ago and I put all my vacs in storage I can't remember unloading it. I guess I'll find out later this week when we move in to the new house. I can't remember leaving it behind because as I did the final cleanup in the house I was using one of my two blue Kirby Traditions and I left one of those behind because there was litterally no room left in the moving van, my car, or our truck. Bags for them are no longer available Sears bag 20.5025 and/or 20.5026 but I lucked into a bunch of them only last week at a junk store. I am really gonna cry if it's not there.

Post# 3815 , Reply# 17   11/11/2006 at 14:32 (2,848 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Duo Power...

Pete I hope you still have it!!
The Duo Power was not the greatest of vacuums by any stretch, but I feel it does hold an important place in history because it was the only other clean-air upright on the market in the 1960's and 70's besides the Hoover Dial-A-Matic.
They are VERY rare tod


Post# 3817 , Reply# 18   11/11/2006 at 14:39 (2,848 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Not only that it holds sentimental value as well. I bought it brand new in 75 shortly after I got my first real job after college in my new apartment. It was a very expensive purchase for me back then but I was bound and determined to have it!!!

Post# 3818 , Reply# 19   11/11/2006 at 15:11 (2,848 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
I remember them in the stores...

Was the self propel any good?
they called that "powerease" right?


Post# 3819 , Reply# 20   11/11/2006 at 15:33 (2,848 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

The self propel feature is very good I find. Rather than just the handgrip sliding back and forth the whole handle slides back and forth. As well there is a variable 3 speed switch on the back base to control how fast it actually propells itself. Fast is like a dragster on low pile carpet LOL The machine has everything, magicord, headlights,2 motor speeds,bag empty indicator, belt view window, nap adjustments, baseboard adjustment switch. If it has any one fault it's that the cord is waaaayyyyy too short, maybe 11 feet which means you can't do an average room without unplugging and replugging it in. Did I say I'm gonna cry if its gone.. oh I did.. lol

Post# 3821 , Reply# 21   11/11/2006 at 16:01 (2,848 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
well

I am crossing my fingers that it will be there.

Post# 3822 , Reply# 22   11/11/2006 at 16:34 (2,848 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Re Freds Kenmore Saturn above. Mom had the previous salmony pink version the Kenmore Satellite, essentially similar design but no power nozzle. She must have got it sometime around 1956 because it was the only vac we had for many years. It sat down in her basement up until only a year or two ago and she gave it away!!!!and here I am back living here after 30 plus years and it's gone.

Post# 3826 , Reply# 23   11/11/2006 at 18:16 (2,848 days old) by myvacsrock (Adrian, MI)        

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Hey Jeff!!

Would you sell that Duo-Power???


Kyle myvacsrock@yahoo.com


Post# 3844 , Reply# 24   11/11/2006 at 22:50 (2,848 days old) by henrydreyfuss (Ohio)        
Jeff..

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I have a very similar Duo Power. Isn't the dirt path design fascinating? It's so interesting how they fanned it out so much by the time it makes it to the nozzle opening. I agree that it's a wonderful piece of clean-air upright history. The tool set up is interesting. I like how its very close to the floor....hard to tip over. Most clean air vacuums today tip over way too easy when using tools.. How is the tool suction compared to the Dial-a-Matic? I unfortunately don't have the tools (although just having the cleaner is plenty really)?

I really like the sound of the Duo Power. It sounds so deep and powerful.

Corey


Post# 3845 , Reply# 25   11/11/2006 at 23:59 (2,848 days old) by convertible68 ()        

Jeff, beautiful vintage Kenmores! That '66 Duo-Power is definitely a nice one. I have to wonder, though...were the attachments ever offered on-board at any time during the production run?

Pete, I've seen pictures of your Kenmore on AW.org; hopefully it will turn up. Interesting that you mention that you move the whole handle to engage the drive, a la Kirby. Does it use flat wheels or rubber treads for propulsion?

The one thing that still puzzles me about the older Kenmore vacuums, is the lack of a headlight lens on some models. To this day I can't understand why they did that...it makes the machines have an "incomplete" look to them. The first one I saw on eBay I thought was just missing the lens and had something wrong with it!

--Austin


Post# 3846 , Reply# 26   11/12/2006 at 00:04 (2,848 days old) by convertible68 ()        
Yikes...

Excuse my redundancy in the last post, with the whole "beautiful vintage" phrase...

Post# 3850 , Reply# 27   11/12/2006 at 09:37 (2,847 days old) by myvacsrock (Adrian, MI)        

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or Jeff maybe we could set a trade......

I have a rare 1979 Singer Twin-Fan complete/w owners book and stuff!! Let me know! myvacsrock@yahoo.com



Kyle


Post# 3857 , Reply# 28   11/12/2006 at 11:20 (2,847 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Duo Power...

Corey,
I suspect the nozzle of the duo power was designed like that for better pickup, an attempt to spread the suction across the whole nozzle, whereas the DAM had all its suction over on the side, and for the early models(1100/1110/1118/1120, early 1130 and 1140) with the old helix agitator which actually spirialed the dirt away from the suction and towards the belt end...
If you have an early DAM with its original agitator scatter some unpopped popcorn kernals on the floor and try to sweep them up... see what happens!
This Duo Power is much more deluxe than the DAM too, two speeds, cord reel, headlight. Its kinda a hefty beast though too.
I like the sound too, once this one runs for a bit and the bearings quiet down it sounds just like a canister.
The tool suction is similar to a DAM too.
Austin to my knowledge On board tools were never thought of with this machine.

Kyle: sorry, not for sale or trade at this time. There are still Dou Powers out there, I am sure you will find one.

Jeff


Post# 3860 , Reply# 29   11/12/2006 at 12:23 (2,847 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Austin, I'm trying to remember the wheels but if irc the drive wheels are just hard plastic with a molded ribbed tread. One of the other slight "don't likes" about it is that that it is so big and wide, slightly wider and deeper than the DAM so tight spaces are a bit of a pain. Definitely not a vac for small apartment living.

Post# 3873 , Reply# 30   11/12/2006 at 15:56 (2,847 days old) by rexaircollector (Loganville, GA)        
Pink Ken Kart

This was a gift from Chad Schiebrl (thank you again Chad) and I will treasure it forever. I just have to replace that red hose though. Everything else is original and in mint condition.

Robb


Post# 3877 , Reply# 31   11/12/2006 at 17:31 (2,847 days old) by buffalo-joe (Darien Center, NY)        
No Duo Powers This Time

Jeff, This past fall village trash pickup netted no Duo Powers. I had been getting at least one a season from that. It would be nice to find more here too. I'm sure they'll turn up as this area is the Kenmore capitol! Kenmore, NY is nearby and maybe has something to do with it. LOL!

Joe


Post# 3886 , Reply# 32   11/12/2006 at 18:55 (2,847 days old) by myvacsrock (Adrian, MI)        

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Hey Buffalo-Joe If you do find a Duo power then contact me!! If you can please! I would love to buy it from you if you decide to sell it!!

Kyle


Post# 3889 , Reply# 33   11/12/2006 at 20:32 (2,847 days old) by dial-a-nap (Omaha - the home of the TV Dinner)        

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Beautiful Kenmores everyone! Fred, that brown one is exactly like my grandmother's. It was the only canister/suction-only she ever owned and it ran great despite being used hard for many years.

I've never seen the blue-green one before, that is very cute!


Post# 3969 , Reply# 34   11/13/2006 at 18:41 (2,846 days old) by myhooverco ()        

I am a Hoover guy through and through but these Kenmores are beautiful! Thanks for posting the pics!!!!

--Tom


Post# 4225 , Reply# 35   11/19/2006 at 10:01 (2,840 days old) by rugmaster37 ()        
Robb....

you are so welcome for the Kenmore. I found this at an estate sale along with a Air-Way model 66 a Kenmore upright from the late 40's and a Lewyt Big Wheel. This was nearly 6 years ago....and all I have left is the AW 66 that replaced the one that I gave to Jeff P. a few years before that. Last he told me his dad was using it to clean his car with!

Yeah...the grey hose that came with it was ratty and torn in WAY too many places for my liking. The red hose is nothing more than a Kirby Classic III hose that I had spare over in my old store! It looked close...but obviously no cigar!

The only Kenmore I have anymore is the CordReel Twin-Fan upright from 1980. It's cinnamon and cream with the wild floral bag and woodgrian trim. I also have another 1940's model that Jeff and I found at Alsip Illinois like a decade ago...

Hey Jeff...been there recently?

Chad


Post# 4280 , Reply# 36   11/20/2006 at 07:47 (2,839 days old) by hoover1060 ()        
Alsip...

Chad,
I haven't been to any flea markets in ages, no time! Used to be I had time to get to Alsip, or Melrose, or even Montana Charlie's down in Joliet every weekend!

Maybe on day things will calm down and I can get back to some of the old haunts





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