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1964 Compact Electra C-6 Owners manual
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Post# 44447   6/21/2008 at 08:39 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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This manual is printed on one sheet of heavy glossy cardstock 11" x 25", then tri-folded.

Cover


Post# 44448 , Reply# 1   6/21/2008 at 08:40 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Post# 44449 , Reply# 2   6/21/2008 at 08:43 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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and here we clearly see the screw knob wand lock.
I have never come across any of those carpet pile clips, though...easily lost or discarded. :-(

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Post# 44450 , Reply# 3   6/21/2008 at 08:43 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Post# 44451 , Reply# 4   6/21/2008 at 08:45 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Post# 44452 , Reply# 5   6/21/2008 at 08:46 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Page 5 back cover

Post# 44453 , Reply# 6   6/21/2008 at 08:50 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Inside this manual was the Owners Certificate entitling one to Bonus'. Copyright is 1963.

Post# 44454 , Reply# 7   6/21/2008 at 08:56 (5,777 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Certificate back side. The rules and regulations for referring your friends to have a home demonstration to earn your bonus were explicit! and only valid for 6 months!

Post# 44460 , Reply# 8   6/21/2008 at 12:32 (5,777 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Dave:

Again, just wonderful. This one brings up several thoughts:

1) That chair on the cover may be the ugliest piece of furniture ever- anytime, anywhere, anyhow. I don't even think the Brady Bunch could stand to have it in their house.

2) It looks like the floor and rug tools on the cover got more than a bit of extra buffing before they were photographed. This sort of thing used to be common- the item in the ad was finished to a higher standard than the item you actually received. Now they don't even bother with that- they just PhotoShop hell out of everything.

3) I think that's an optional power nozzle outlet on the top of the canister housing, to the side of the on/off switch. Somewhere around here I have a photo of a Compact from this generation that has a power nozzle. Can anyone confirm that this was a PN outlet?

4) The referral programme certificate is very interesting. Interstate got in a fair amount of legal trouble over the years for the referral programme. A link to just one of the court cases is below. The problem wasn't so much the programme in and of itself, it was the way some distributors represented it to prospects. They'd leave new owners with the impression that their new vac would be all but paid for by referrals, which was very difficult to accomplish in actual practise. The problem was that salespeople would use the referral programme to get people to sign the sales contract: "Oh, but it's not really $269, Mrs. Dimwitty! If you'll just refer ten of your friends, you'll pay only $19!" And Mrs. Dimwitty would think of her bridge and garden club friends, and sign, not really understanding that she'd committed to $269, not $19, and that this was a finance contract with a note due come hell or high water. The legal problem was that every sales prospect had this particular carrot dangled in front of them, which made it something of a pyramid scheme- it's impossible for everyone offered a free vac to get one, because mathematically, you run out of prospects pretty soon.


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Post# 44471 , Reply# 9   6/21/2008 at 14:16 (5,777 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
Thanks Again Dave!

Ohhh a serial #

So in about 9 or so years 800,000 were built

averaging about 90,000 units per year.

I'd say the millionth unit was most likely produced 1 year before my unit which could be a 56 or 57 unit?

Hmmmm
need more serial numbers & dates

Good work Dave~~!!!



Post# 44551 , Reply# 10   6/21/2008 at 23:13 (5,776 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        

Yes, that is a power nozzle plug on the back by the on/off switch. I know, as our neighbors traded a almost new 517 Kirby in on this same compact in 1962 or 1963. They had a
lux lx before. She did not like the kirby upright. So when the
compact salesman came along they went for it. The power nozzle
looked like an early Whirlpool nozzle. It had an attached wand
and hose, yes the hose was attached to the power wand and nozzle. The machine end of the hose had about 1 foot of cord
to reach the plug. I used it a couple of times, the nozzle was a little weak on suction and the brushes were not good.
They ended up junking the power nozzle unit and buying a sears
upright in the late 60's/early 70's. after getting wall/wall.
I have been waiting for someone else to mention this. Am hoping someone has a picture. Really doubting that there is
one around for real. It would be great to see one way or the
other!
Norm


Post# 44556 , Reply# 11   6/21/2008 at 23:38 (5,776 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Norm:

There is a picture of the Compact with its power nozzle in Thomas Hine's Populuxe (Alfred A. Knopf, New York, hardcover, 1986).

My copy of Populuxe is packed away, or I'd try to get this scanned for you. The book is more than worth your time to track down; it's a marvellous overview of the consumer culture of the 1950's. I recommend buying it rather than trying to get by with a library reading- it's that good, and that necessary a book. Used copies abound on eBay and Amazon, not too expensively, so long as you're willing to settle for the softcover edition- the hardcover goes for a fortune. It's also available in a reprint edition, I understand, but I don't have any info.


Post# 44558 , Reply# 12   6/21/2008 at 23:43 (5,776 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Oh, and Norm....

....Thanks for confirming that that's a power nozzle outlet. I can see why it might have been short-lived. Its location on top of the machine like that would have made it a prime target of childish curiosity. Really rather dangerous, when you think about it....

Post# 44572 , Reply# 13   6/22/2008 at 05:08 (5,776 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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Barnes and Noble had tons of nice looking reprints of Populuxe a couple of years ago. They are different from the first edition somehow, without excluding any of the contents. I bought the thing at full cover price in '86. Love that cover with Suzy Parker modeling the new 1955 Plymouth Belvedere! She once worked for Revlon, and made Charles Revson angry because she did not do so exclusively.

Post# 44672 , Reply# 14   6/22/2008 at 21:39 (5,776 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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Yes the little dohickey on the side is for the power head. I used to have this same model but I sold it. I didn't have the pwr head but I found a really nice compact head to go with it.
It was in great shape and I wish I had kept it. The porwe head for this machine is VERY rare!


Post# 44686 , Reply# 15   6/23/2008 at 01:16 (5,775 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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Isnt that why this model and/or the ones after it are called an "Electra"? - Meaning WITH (or adapted for use with) a Power Nozzle?

Its strange that they show the PN jack in the picture of the vac on the first page, but dont even refer to it, or mention a PN in the Owners Manual at all.


Post# 44698 , Reply# 16   6/23/2008 at 08:50 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
I'll just toss this anomoly into the mix

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I have two C-8 Electras. Just went upstairs to check that for sure.

One is pale green and has the Flower Power decal on the side. The other is my first Compact C-8 Electra that was mustard yellow with the flower decal. This is the one I stripped and repainted gunmetal gray.

Here's where it gets interesting...

The green C-8 has NO electrical PN socket, not even a internal knockout for one.

The gray C-8 has a bottom front socket with an internal metal strip covered the channel carrying the power cord.

So, both are C-8 Electras but only one has the PN socket.



Post# 44699 , Reply# 17   6/23/2008 at 08:54 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The internal metal plate.

This vacuum suffered greatly from rust and mold which pitted the magnesium. When I repainted it I wire-wheeled the insides as much as possible - still shiny after all these years.

Note also that the caster sockets are molded in for snap-in casters, not drilled through for bolted casters like later/other model Compacts.


Post# 44700 , Reply# 18   6/23/2008 at 08:58 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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And now I notice this formerly yellow C-8 has the clear sparkle handle. I will have to begin looking for the clear sparkle accessories - I have the upholstery nozzle in clear.

This is the vacuum that cleaned my house from top to bottom on moving in week over Hallowe'en 1986. The scrapes and scratches it suffered over that week is what compelled me to repaint it.


Post# 44701 , Reply# 19   6/23/2008 at 09:06 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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And finally for comparison, the green C-8 without a pn socket. Hideous decal - if I could safely get it off it would be gone by now. :-)

I do wish the complete tool set that came with it were in pale green rather than creamy white. But the styrofoam tray is!


Post# 44702 , Reply# 20   6/23/2008 at 09:15 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Caster stem molding differences Survey

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Both turquoise C-6s uses acorn nuts

Post# 44703 , Reply# 21   6/23/2008 at 09:18 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The green C-8 has simple cast posts

Post# 44704 , Reply# 22   6/23/2008 at 09:20 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The gray (mustard yellow) C-8 has more elaborate support buttressing.

Post# 44705 , Reply# 23   6/23/2008 at 09:23 (5,775 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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and finally, the red CLX has simple post sockets, and the exterior PN wiring plate underside.

Dave, awaiting Pete's arrival in Stratford this sunny Monday for a local thrifting day...


Post# 44710 , Reply# 24   6/23/2008 at 12:05 (5,775 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Brian:

"Its strange that they show the PN jack in the picture of the vac on the first page, but dont even refer to it, or mention a PN in the Owners Manual at all."

I agree that it's strange that there's no mention of what the PN outlet is for, but I don't think it's strange that no other mention is made. In those days, PNs were an optional accessory, often covered with their own separate operating manual. So, I think that's what was going on- there is probably a Compact power nozzle instruction manual out there somewhere, just waiting to make a collector deliriously happy.

Dave- great shots of all the engineering differences in various models!


Post# 44711 , Reply# 25   6/23/2008 at 12:12 (5,775 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
great pics

thanks


Post# 44725 , Reply# 26   6/23/2008 at 15:07 (5,775 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Just a Thought...

Has anyone tried to use a C-6 with a current TriStar power nozzle? It seems like it would be feasible, if you used one of the generic TriStar PN hoses. Those hoses have a wire coming off either end, and if there's enough length, it should be possible to connect the wire on the canister end to the PN outlet on a C-6.

Also, has anyone ever seen a parts source for the older Compact PNs- brush rolls, bearings, belts, etc.? It'd be interesting to have one in working order.


Post# 44726 , Reply# 27   6/23/2008 at 15:27 (5,775 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Upon Further Reflection....

....There also appears to be no good reason why a new non-electric Compact hose with a PN cord strapped to it wouldn't work as well. Those PN cords and cord straps are readily available on eBay.

I feel a project coming on- I really should lie down with a cold cloth on my head, LOL.


Post# 44902 , Reply# 28   6/25/2008 at 10:20 (5,773 days old) by briankirbyclass (Eudora Kansas)        

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WOW, what a great thread, thanks so much for all the info.

About the knob on the wand,,,what exactly did this do, and how did it work? Im assuming it tightened the wands together somehow?
Ive never seen this before.


Post# 44906 , Reply# 29   6/25/2008 at 11:16 (5,773 days old) by danemodsandy ()        
Brian:

If you'll think about it, the locking knob appears on Compacts at the time they were getting into power nozzle availability. Friction-fit wands work fine with regular tools, but you need a locking system with a power nozzle, since a power nozzle is heavy enough to slip off the wand if not locked into place. Even Lux, which stayed with friction-fit wands longer than anyone else, I think, used a locking system on its power nozzle wand. But that meant Lux was supplying two wand systems, one with the PN and one for other uses. Most vac companies would rather give you just one set of wands for use with both PN and regular tools, which means they'd have to lock somehow.


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