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Post# 43759   6/14/2008 at 13:32 (5,766 days old) by dsmiler ()        

Recently I have purchased a few old vacuums from e-bay and was curious if anyone else experienced my problems or if I might be out of line.

I bought 2 classic omega and the lady just threw all of the pieces in a box to bang around (no packing or paper or anything) and she left the bags full of dirt as a bonus. She claimed it was the only way to ship the vacs.

I bought a classic III and everything was wrapped but the bag had a lot of dirt in it.

Is it too much to ask to empty the bags and maybe put them in a plastic bag so that when you get them home it's not so messy.


Post# 43760 , Reply# 1   6/14/2008 at 13:55 (5,766 days old) by lux1521 ()        

It seems like very few people think of this. For some reason it is not obvious that all we want is the vacuum and not the last persons dirt and who knows what else. You would think they would atleast dump them out to cut down on shipping costs but many don't.

Post# 43761 , Reply# 2   6/14/2008 at 13:56 (5,766 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        

A good seller would wrap it good & I don't see the point in sending a few lbs of dirt but I can see how if its a shakeout
someone would not want to expose themselves to that.

My vacs are cleaned well & my shakeouts emptied after every use
so if I sent it at most would have a slight dirt.

I got the parts for a filter queen yesterday
The wand hose attach & power nozzle
were just slipped in the box.
I even asked for them to be at least wrapped in a sheet of newspaper. Thankfully the box was full so that nothing shifted alot.

Power nozzle did have internal neck crack & one screw hole broken off. Could have been from the shipping but unlikely.

I glued it back together

Its a really old one & had alot of use but I cleaned the motor entirely even taking armature out & brushes

Good thing is the darn thing woorks really good
best motor I got though I think its a replacement it looks like a decent one.

When I got my D50's I had good packers
bags had alot dirt but they did use paper & plastic bags so that the dirt was not all over the place

Mostly I think because they stank

LOL

I'm waiting on a lux & the filter queen base.
Its one like the one I got from you.

Hope he put soem paper under the wheels
I'll have a fit if it comes with bent broken wheels.

Such a shame to have 25 year old vacs needlessly damaged

Trouble is it does seem like you have to buy 4 or so vacs to put together one good complete one.

Hope you have better luck.

Try sending a polite note with packing concerns
sometimes it helps


Post# 43764 , Reply# 3   6/14/2008 at 14:52 (5,766 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Yep! Its happerned to me.

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I'v had people send me Kirby's before with the bag full and the dirt has normaly escaped if its a older pre bag model.

Its worse for me in the way of because I live in the UK shipping goes on weight as you know and shipping to the Uk is quite pricey as it is yet alone add on nearly half the weight of the kirby again in dirt.

The worse thing is it has happerned more than a few times.

I'v evern asked people before its posted to do it but they say "they forgot"

Oh well what can you do?? (Post the dirt back!!)why not ;-))

james


Post# 43766 , Reply# 4   6/14/2008 at 15:19 (5,766 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I, too, have gotten filthy machines

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and loads of their dirt. Some, you could tell, had dogs. I'd NEVER do that. And, weight..... dirt is expensive.

Post# 43776 , Reply# 5   6/14/2008 at 16:43 (5,766 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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It's bad enough when you buy thrift store machines with 10 years worth of dirt. My old, well used GE from eBay came with a new, empty bag as well as its cloth bag. The thing actually smelled new.

Post# 43777 , Reply# 6   6/14/2008 at 17:40 (5,766 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Timely thread - I just won the Ohio Westinghouse Cylinder wi

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I always immediately shoot off an email to the seller before paying the invoice, outlining - so there be no misunderstanding - how I expect the vacuum and its accessories to be packed, for our mutual satisfaction. I repeat the salient points nicely when I do the PayPal thing within a day or less.

I want everything, especially the vacuum itself, fully swaddled in bubblewrap - two layers - to prevent further scuffs or scratches. I want the tools bubblewrapped as well - even within their box or carry caddy - to keep them from scuffing each other. I warn against wrapping in newspaper as any paper has an abrasive quality in contact with painted, plastic and metal surfaces. Use newspaper for stuffing spacial voids and stuff it TIGHT. Then I want everything sensibly arranged in the shipping carton (hoses coiled on the bottom, please) and ALL box voids liberally stuffed with crumpled newspaper, bubble packs, styro peanuts or somesuch wadding with the vac body centrally located so it doesn't directly contact the box sides and heavy load shifting in transit is eliminated. Most important last step...tape ALL box seams as well as around the middle of long boxes to prevent 'box burst' in case of droppage and to seal out moisture.

The seller now knows what I expect so that the item arrives in the same condition it was purchased and excellent feedback is assured. If the seller should want extra for packing materials I input their Zip code and my Postal code and compare calculations. Usually you'll find such persons have already factored that in. :-) and I tell them so.

Most often I receive a grateful & pleasant reply thanking me for my concerns and solutions. After all we are talking about vintage items with lots of inertia in a cardboard box passing through many disinterested hands on a long overland journey. Yes, for weight savings I also ask that the bag be emptied and if a full paper bag, discarded.

Only once has this advice been ignored, to the seller's chagrin, with a damage refund when the tub canister loose in a box with the tools and hose arrived dented & broken beyond redemption. I'm a tenacious bugger when wronged and cannot abide willful stupidity.

As a pack rat type I sort, bundle and save all the shipping materials I get in case I have to ship something out, as I'm sure all these sellers do as well. Packing materials are cheap, plentiful and re-usable, if not freely obtained. I will not charge for such materials nor my time in packing up. If you are a seller and don't have a supply of good packing tape, shame on you. Nor do I expect a seller to do that either...they just made money on the sale, dammit. If they did not, then that's the luck of the draw...or perhaps the item offered for sale was shown in such bad condition or so commonly to be had that the item should not have been put up for bid in the first place.

Anyway, I know what I see and extract from photos and will ignore the item or bid accordingly.

Dave, always an informed and happy bidder, win or lose.


Post# 43778 , Reply# 7   6/14/2008 at 18:21 (5,766 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Lucky you!

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Hey Dave, is that the one they claim is the "I Love Lucy" model? Do you have a pic of it?

Post# 43779 , Reply# 8   6/14/2008 at 18:42 (5,766 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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That's the one, Alan. I took a chance and there was only one other bidder.

Always wanted one of these just for the handle design! LOL It will look so cool lined up next to the blue Monitors, the Filtex and the GE cylinders...below the Electroluxes, of course. :-)

Ok, partly kidding. In line with the shipping etiquette guidelines I posted above, the picture told me that all the important red tools are there, excepting the large aluminum floor nozzle. Naturally the hose is a replacement but the ends are there. The brown tools, converter and red hose are for a Hoover, so that's a bonus.

As for whether it is the correct Lucy MacGillicuddy Ricardo vacuum, well, research will ensue and I'm sure someone will post about it. I just love its high style Rocket Age looks and the odd intake bezel shape.


Post# 43780 , Reply# 9   6/14/2008 at 18:50 (5,766 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Won't know what model it is until it gets here in a week or two.

Doug Smith's site shows this blue 1950 model T-4 bomb. So perhaps a corrugated vinyl hose is not inappropriate? Say, I have an extra connector-less solid red hose that came with the Fairfax...mmm...not many vacuums that can sport a blood red hose...


Post# 43781 , Reply# 10   6/14/2008 at 18:52 (5,766 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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I love that model, I think it's different from the Lucy one. I like the overall looks better.

Post# 43786 , Reply# 11   6/14/2008 at 20:08 (5,766 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Lucy's Westinghouse.

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Courtesy of Kyle Myvacsrock back in March. I think he got these screen shots off the DVD?

Post# 43787 , Reply# 12   6/14/2008 at 20:09 (5,766 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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showing the tool caddy.

Post# 43789 , Reply# 13   6/14/2008 at 20:11 (5,766 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Here's pics of a nice complete Westinghouse like mine that sold on ebay a few months ago...for considerably more.

Post# 43790 , Reply# 14   6/14/2008 at 20:13 (5,766 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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All the tools and notice the hose. That's two we have pictured with this hose now.
Sorry, this should all be in a new thread. But I am excited...


Post# 43793 , Reply# 15   6/14/2008 at 22:01 (5,765 days old) by normvac (COLUMBUS, OHIO)        

Glad you got that one Dave. I was going to go ck Ebay after cking in with VCCC to see what was happening. I had been
watching it but have been busy the last couple of days, so
have not ck'd on it! Glad someone in the Club got it !
Norm


Post# 43797 , Reply# 16   6/14/2008 at 22:43 (5,765 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Thank you, Norm. It does scream late 1950 with possibly early 60s body mods. Since I can't collect real automobiles with such style, vintage vacuums fill the bill nicely. I'm in awe of the metal casting and solid engineering that went into last-a-lifetime appliances.

The vacuuming function is almost secondary to how you feel running a fine machine. Almost. :-)

I took a chance and tossed in a very low bid. A shame I don't have another break coming up to drive down to Dayton to pick it up so have to pay more than it cost to have it shipped. My first vacuum love is cylinders and so...

The next one's your's, ok?


Post# 43800 , Reply# 17   6/14/2008 at 23:38 (5,765 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
Wow kinda like that one myself

Is the guys name Tom?

That one you missed
Sorry but its primo bullet shape
all the tools
great condition
looks almost like magenta not red

Guess its better vacs than cars
there easier to hide in the closets
LOL

I had my fun
time to get practical
I;m tripping over vacs here


LOL


Post# 44083 , Reply# 18   6/17/2008 at 15:51 (5,763 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
Another ebay fiasco

Just got a round canniser vac today
12 inch vac in a 12 in box
no nothing

the wheel caddy is now squared off & it was a good old strong one
& the tool caddy is cracked

I'm taking pics as we speak of the carnage

haven't even got to the vac yet

Going to have to keep my cool but I want compensation for these damages cause by the most careless packing

I'm livid right now


Post# 44103 , Reply# 19   6/17/2008 at 20:12 (5,763 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
I should be getting half refund

Still with shipping I didn't want to spend $ for another parts machine.

Needs a hinge too.
Lo speed doesn't work
On off switch gets stuck

So now I got more to fix

LOL



Post# 44104 , Reply# 20   6/17/2008 at 20:16 (5,763 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
Hey Scott

Now I have one that works on Lo speed
& one that works on hi speed

LOL

& the on off switch too

I'll need to order those things by the dozen

LOL

Least I got my dust brush

LOL

The madness of it all
will it ever end?



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