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Post# 41879   5/29/2008 at 21:14 (5,781 days old) by vacuumkid3 ()        

Check this out! Anyone have any clue as to what exactly it is?

~~K~~


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Post# 41920 , Reply# 1   5/30/2008 at 00:32 (5,781 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

I am wondering if the machine shown could be the NSS Model M's great grandfather?Sure a lot of resemblence except no scrap trap "snout' on the machine pictured.but the blower housing,cart and bag fitting are similar to model M's.NSS model M's are built in Toledo.And still made to this day-the "pig" design with the scrap trap is well over 50yrs old.

Post# 41921 , Reply# 2   5/30/2008 at 00:35 (5,781 days old) by clarkecombi ()        
I was Thinking the same thing

That could Be a Pig....They were notorious for their strong suction..THey said there was a 1949 model they found stilll being used at a movie theatre in indinapolis...see Link

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Post# 41922 , Reply# 3   5/30/2008 at 00:57 (5,781 days old) by camelotshadow (Valley Village)        
Ugly Betty's All Excited

That sure is a handsome piggy...LOL



Post# 41930 , Reply# 4   5/30/2008 at 03:18 (5,781 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Currently I own three "pigs" and really like them-one of mine is now 30yrs old and runs without any problems.Did replace the bearings and brushes-only took half hour to do-the NSS machines are very user freindly to service.Just unscrew several screws and you can take apart the unit!Would love to run into a 1949 model.The fans in the machines are REALLY TOUGH-even if something goes past the scrap trap-the fan can eat it!!Bends over electrical box conduit knockout slugs with no problem!love to use these machines to vacuum out transmitters and transmitter sites I have worked at.Another thought--could the vacuum blower unit pictured in the link be a suction-blower unit for an early ancestor to the NSS "Bronco" vacuum?-an external filter wet-dry vacuum.This type of vacuum has the motor mounted on the top of the drum-on the lid.A filter bag is connected to the blower discharge.A float inside the canister blocks off the intake to the motor fan unit when liquid level gets too high in the drum.For dry pickup large peices stay in the drum--a giant scrap trap-and fine dust goes thru the fan into the bag-I have a Tornado unit and love it--no clogging like internal filter wet-dry vacs.Its noisier buts does the job.Also the Tornado,Bronco blowers were used for dry insulation blowing,inflation,and even sucking air from behind vinyl pool liners.An NSS Bronco vacuum is one of those on my "to find list"

Post# 41934 , Reply# 5   5/30/2008 at 08:07 (5,781 days old) by clarkecombi ()        
I tHINK tHATS A PIG!

I Compared Pix. Same Wheels, Handle and The little On and Off Switch. Its A pig...lol

Post# 41985 , Reply# 6   5/30/2008 at 16:15 (5,781 days old) by louvac (A)        

Question.

Does anyone recall what the name of the canister vacuum cleaner that many school janitors used back in the 60's and 70's that had a blue bag that hung somewhat horizontally from a "hook" and I think that the machine/motor may have been yellow with the wheels/castors and was positioned underneath? The bag was huge! I cannot recall what the brand was. Does anyone know what machine I am talking about?

Louis


Post# 41989 , Reply# 7   5/30/2008 at 16:46 (5,781 days old) by charles~richard ()        

Yes Louis, the blue and yellow machine is the NSS, affectionately called "The Pig." They have just tremendous air flow. I used to have one of the first 1949 models, gave it away to someone somewhere - don't remember who now.

Here are pix of mine. The beast on eBay is NOT an NSS product. It's much older than that. Billy Lipman has one; I just saw it when I was back east.

Anyway, pix:























Post# 41990 , Reply# 8   5/30/2008 at 16:46 (5,781 days old) by charles~richard ()        

btw, there are a bunch of the yellow ones on eBay right now. Here's one of the links.



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Post# 41992 , Reply# 9   5/30/2008 at 17:15 (5,781 days old) by akabent (LEFT Coast)        
YELLOW & BLUE

I remember a Commercial machine called a HILD or HILDE. The machine was a bright yellow, the bag deep blue. Long, heavy commerical hose (almost tan, rubberized) with straight and curved wand to heavy floor tool.

RB


Post# 42045 , Reply# 10   5/31/2008 at 08:49 (5,780 days old) by louvac (A)        

Thanks guys..for the info. I would love to find one of these.
I remember peering into the janitor's room when I was in grammar school and seeing that machine. That bag just absolutely mesmerized me!

Rick, about the Hild...I still have a Hild floor buffer that my dad had gotten years ago. I would love to trade it for a Hild Commercial vacuum cleaner which was made by Royal, as Royal did brand machines for others. There was one on dumbbay about a year ago and I just couldn't land it.

I have a TaskMaster which is a Royal. It has a black and red bag but instead of it being on the diagonal it is vertical...I think? Love it!


Post# 42334 , Reply# 11   6/2/2008 at 16:19 (5,778 days old) by tommymilan (milano)        
like a kirby!!

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Hello, I consider the "Pig"a very interesting vacuum cleaner and my first comparison was with a kirby permanently assembled in the portable mode, without the handle, maybe a little bit oversised. My question to who had the chanche to use one is: were they very powerful? Can a direct air system be as powerful and effective for extended straight suction cleaning (considering what Nss claims in theyr website about their model M-1 Pig)compared to any other powerful indirect air system vacuum cleaner with or without bag?And knowing how noisy kirbies are I wonder how noisier a Pig could be.
Any ideas?
Tommy


Post# 42350 , Reply# 12   6/2/2008 at 19:22 (5,777 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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oh my goodness, my schools used those up into the ninties. I never got to see it used.

Post# 42351 , Reply# 13   6/2/2008 at 19:23 (5,777 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I never knew what it was, thank you Mr. Lester

Post# 42409 , Reply# 14   6/3/2008 at 02:57 (5,777 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

as much as I like kirbys-I have many in my collection-I have 3 Model "M"s in my collection as well-Yes the NSS units are direct air-and yes VERY powerful-more so than any Kirby model.The NSS does most of its work by VERY high airflow-not really "suction" pressure.Its VERY large 8' fan is turned aboput 10,000 RPM by the high torque slower turning motor-and becasue its slower-bearings and brushes last longer-that is why NSS claims brush life on these machines to be over 2,500 hrs as opposed to 500 hrs on other vacuums.Yes we can say the NSS vacuum is much like the Kirby set up with its hose-the main diffrence is the scrap trap in the NSS.I wouldn't want to think about using my Kirbys to clean up some of the jobs I have used the NSS m achines on.In vacuuming out broadcast transmitters and similar equipment it is not unusual to pick up hardware such as nuts,bolts,screws and LOTS if fine dust.When the job is really dusty-and lots of it-I go for the NSS.You can also use a powernozzle on the "pig" like a giant powernozzle canister-but I feel the kirby is better for that task of cleaning carpets.For surface dirt-the non powered carpet tool on the NSS works well.I have bare floor tools foer mine and its great if you have LOTS of hard floor to vacuum.For its size-the NSS bare floor tools are very easy to push-and the pig follows you well with a gentle tug on the hose.Sometimes the hose may come off-you have to make sure the hose connector thumbscrew on the Pig is tight.the sound of the NSS pig is sort of like the kirby-a softer lower note sound.


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